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Mallik
Comedian Username: Mallik
Post Number: 1058 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 02:01 pm: |
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Envision:Why are so many stores going bankrupt?
Because they opened too many frachises. Ekkada padthe akkada gully gully ki open cheshinru. For example Star Bucks.. edaa pedaa open cheshinru.. Few months back they closed down around 600 stores nation wide.. Spending taagindemo anukunnaa nenu koodaa.. ninna majjaanam mall ki pothe parking dorkale.. jenaalu fultoo unnaru malla la.. ishnu maaya ankonunnaa... In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  |
   
Getafix
Junior Artist Username: Getafix
Post Number: 952 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:58 pm: |
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Mallik:I dont think they are brought by Renault. Iddaru kalshinru ankuntaa..
Renault konesindhi anukunta. Carlos Ghosn, a brazilian, was renault exec and later appointed as CEO of Nissan when they were bought out by renault. Most popular non-japaneese guy in japan veedu. Nissan turnaround guy ani antaru veedini. |
   
Envision
Junior Artist Username: Envision
Post Number: 694 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.35.226.228
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:55 pm: |
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Proline:people are not spending much..
This is the main reason as well. And interest rates takkuvaki idi varaku laga evaru ivvadam ledu, icchina customers prasthutam antha invest evaroo cheyatledu, they dont want to shell out cash at this moment. I think if car is a necessity and they dont get lower interest rates, they will go for used cars, which do not anymore count as sales for the car manufacturer. They were already considered sold. |
   
Mallik
Comedian Username: Mallik
Post Number: 1056 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:50 pm: |
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Getafix:and they were bought by Renault
I dont think they are brought by Renault. Iddaru kalshinru ankuntaa.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  |
   
Proline
Comedian Username: Proline
Post Number: 1666 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:46 pm: |
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Envision:Mortgage okkate link ayithe why is the retail market going down . Why are so many stores going bankrupt? To me, the sales have come down bcos of lack of loans...
I agree that mortgage is not THE culprit for financial situation of many companies. The trio is in losses (loss in profits) constantly. For yrs (4yrs back) there are in the same situation. Stores going down because of lot of factors... prices, fuel, economy down, people are not spending much...etc. when there is an inflation...this is what happens. enta effect unna necessary items konakunda undaleru. car anedi usa lo necessity. loans lekapovadam yemiti??? car dealers daggariki velitey...yegiri gantesi loans ippistaaru. loans with minimum interest rate ivvalani...kondaru aalochistunnaaru autos ki. |
   
Getafix
Junior Artist Username: Getafix
Post Number: 950 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:29 pm: |
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Goonda:Its not in Japs DNA to build gas gazzulers. Their strength is always building a small cars. recently these guys ventured into pickup truck envt. Neverthless Japs always believed in quantity rather than quality.
Japs bhi teesinru annai big cars but they quickly discarded those models. Honda is the smallest auto maker compared rest but they are highly profitable - reason being less cars and more quality. Toyota hybrid theesi oka half dozen years avuthundi kani GM deggara ippatiki oka legit hybrid bandi ledhu.. honda konni segments lo introduce chesindhi. Anthandeuku.. another Jap maker Nissan ne teesuko..they were almost bankrupt in mid 90s and they were bought by Renault..and Renault brought in a very good CEO and that guy turned around Nissan with in no time by introducing some smart practices..ade GM,Ford and Chrsyler - same old story repeated again and again. |
   
Envision
Junior Artist Username: Envision
Post Number: 693 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.35.226.228
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:29 pm: |
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Proline:as far i know they are not tightly coupled to mortgage..
Mortgage okkate link ayithe why is the retail market going down . Why are so many stores going bankrupt? To me, the sales have come down bcos of lack of loans... no body is ready to lend anyone now, obviously, the car sales will come down... |
   
Bhikhu
Junior Artist Username: Bhikhu
Post Number: 317 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.74.40
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:27 pm: |
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Prathi vadu govt ni blackmail sesi bayita padtunnad |
   
Whoami
Comedian Username: Whoami
Post Number: 1277 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.40.67.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:21 pm: |
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New_user:Vehicles ni Leases lo
Chrysler manchi example |
   
Getafix
Junior Artist Username: Getafix
Post Number: 949 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:21 pm: |
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GM valla reteriment benefits ichukoleka losses declar chesaru few years back. Situation entha chendalam unde ante GM workforce lo deceased vallaki kuda pension pay chesarani antar. |
   
New_user
Side Hero Username: New_user
Post Number: 2888 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.192.59.71
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:19 pm: |
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Big 3 ki main issues 1. Unions - Auto industry rise lo unna time lo UAW blackmails valla istam vachchinattu benefits ichcharu. By 2010 that burden will be almost nullified. 2. Poor quality - Mass market meeda drusti tho, quality ni pakkana pettaru, particulary in small vehicles segment. That is showing effect now. 3. Resale value ni pattinchuko ledu. Vehicles ni Leases lo, autorental companies ki adda diddam ga ammesaru. Around 20-30 K miles tharavatha avi market loki flood la vachchi padesariki, market value padipoyindi. So brands value is further eroded. Big 3 vehicles lo quality improvement bavundi. Still badname poledu. Showing effect on sales. Anyway Toyota sales lo 26% drop unnappudu, what will you expect about Big 3. |
   
Whoami
Comedian Username: Whoami
Post Number: 1276 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.40.67.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:04 pm: |
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Mallik:Asale Big3 lo 'Unions' di oka range hawaa nadustadi ataa.. oka range health benefits and golden umbrellas anta..
idi one of the main reasons for Big 3 failure |
   
Whoami
Comedian Username: Whoami
Post Number: 1275 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.40.67.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:03 pm: |
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Mallik:Konevaadu evadu?
link purthi ga chaduvu tammi |
   
Kkd
Side Hero Username: Kkd
Post Number: 8943 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:59 pm: |
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thammud,check this article... http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/global_cr isis/ |
   
Mallik
Comedian Username: Mallik
Post Number: 1048 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:52 pm: |
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Whoami:GM to sell stake in Suzuki to raise cash
Konevaadu evadu? Nannadigithe.. Big3 cars konetonki paisal iyyale.. loan kindha.. Eg: If I want to buy a car - Govt should give me the loan to buy any big3 car for 0% APR or .9% APR based on my credit history. Matter set. Atu cars ammudu pothai, consumer spending peruguthadi.. andaroo happies.. itlaa companies ki ichhukuntaa pothe, avi edki pothunnayo sariggaa telvadu.. Asale Big3 lo 'Unions' di oka range hawaa nadustadi ataa.. oka range health benefits and golden umbrellas anta.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  |
   
Proline
Comedian Username: Proline
Post Number: 1664 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:48 pm: |
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Rajusk:In any case..this bailout is going to delay the inevitable is what I read..
i agree. if not now... in a year or so..they will go bankrupt..and again need bailout if they do not have proper vision. in 70's Chrysler was in the same situation. govt has given few billions debt (not bailout) and in return it asked 3yr plan to get rid of loss ventures (cars) and come up (had to submit models and plans for new cars before taking the debt) with efficient models and also govt enforced some other restrictions (the idea was to recover the money completely with the interest rate even if it goes bankrupt) which you can find out by reading some published books on this issue. Chrysler survived then. But now-a-days govt is not imposing much restrictions... lots of politics in usa also. |
   
Whoami
Comedian Username: Whoami
Post Number: 1274 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.40.67.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:43 pm: |
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GM to sell stake in Suzuki to raise cash http://www.freep.com/article/20081117/BUSINESS01/81117009 |
   
Proline
Comedian Username: Proline
Post Number: 1663 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:42 pm: |
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Whoami:6 myths about the Detroit 3
myths baaga raasukunnar.(credibility is no where in the world and internet is fueling it). why these companies are in trouble?? as far i know they are not tightly coupled to mortgage...if they were they should have been included in the previous bailouts and also should have gone bankrupt...a year back...or months back. |
   
Rajusk
Side Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 4400 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:39 pm: |
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New_user:One in ten jobs in US - directly or indirectly related to this industry. Veellu out of job ayithe, consequences darunam ga untayi.
They are saying about 2.5 Million jobs would be gone... if GM goes bankrupt.. In any case..this bailout is going to delay the inevitable is what I read.. lets wait and see |
   
Whoami
Comedian Username: Whoami
Post Number: 1273 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.40.67.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:36 pm: |
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White House: Auto aid should not come from $700-billion bailouthttp://www.freep.com/article/20081117/BUSINESS01/81117013 6 myths about the Detroit 3 http://www.freep.com/article/20081117/COL14/811170379 |
   
Goonda
Hero Username: Goonda
Post Number: 11023 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 146.18.173.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:33 pm: |
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Getafix:Japs 15 yrs krithame gas guzzlers ki namaste petti chala startegical ga and inovation tho enno competent cars techrau market loki kani US auto industry stuck to gas guzzlers and old practices.. Serious ga chusthe 25 bil saripothaya big 3 auto makers ki? GM building lo janitors yokka retirement benifits cover ayuthayemo portion of 25 bil bailout thoni and its not they wont come back for some more..
Its not in Japs DNA to build gas gazzulers. Their strength is always building a small cars. recently these guys ventured into pickup truck envt. Neverthless Japs always believed in quantity rather than quality. |
   
Bicchapathi
Comedian Username: Bicchapathi
Post Number: 1530 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:33 pm: |
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Global warming report ni lobbying chesi.. billion lancham icchi hide cheyincharu auto mobile and Gas companies.. ippudu pikkomanandi.. lekunte eee paatiki enchakka electric car nadipevaallam without any polution Murder cheste ne Puli, Kabja cheste Tiger .. Ivanni chesina vade Mukyamanthri kavadaniki arhudu ante.. Ma annayya chiru Raktham panchi, Manchi mansutho Mukyamanthri ayyi Tiger anipinchukutadu chudandi |
   
Proline
Comedian Username: Proline
Post Number: 1661 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:31 pm: |
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these car companies are in trouble because of making bad products and to minimum extent because of economy. why sales are down for these and why not for honda..toyota..etc.? coz the other companies produced fuel efficient cars. the trio focused on building big trucks..etc which were consuming lot of fuel and hence people are staying away from them...so these products has to fade away... now with this bailout...nothing improves in 1-3 yrs.... these companies does not think ahead...and deserves to go bankrupt. only question is about the un-employement... this should be solved in alternative means...and govt can do a lot for this. ex: instead of lending 25Bil to these companies...govt can allocate this money to building public infrastructure and hiring/employing those who lost jobs (talent matters but things can be sorted out). |
   
Getafix
Junior Artist Username: Getafix
Post Number: 947 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:31 pm: |
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Japs 15 yrs krithame gas guzzlers ki namaste petti chala startegical ga and inovation tho enno competent cars techrau market loki kani US auto industry stuck to gas guzzlers and old practices.. Serious ga chusthe 25 bil saripothaya big 3 auto makers ki? GM building lo janitors yokka retirement benifits cover ayuthayemo portion of 25 bil bailout thoni and its not they wont come back for some more.. |
   
New_user
Side Hero Username: New_user
Post Number: 2886 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.192.59.71
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:30 pm: |
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I support the bailout of auto industry. One in ten jobs in US - directly or indirectly related to this industry. Veellu out of job ayithe, consequences darunam ga untayi. Okka AIG ki 150 billion ichchinappudu, auto industry ki 25 ivvadam lo thappu ledu. |
   
Rowdyalludu
Hero Username: Rowdyalludu
Post Number: 19313 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 69.141.154.105
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:27 pm: |
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Goonda:I believe paying to these big 3 is better than paying to banks, which played with the investor money. These car companies didnt cheat any one like lehman,wachovia ,AIG,Countrywide and few other banks. These guys deserve the bailout as they have just started out the hybrid reveloution. Helping these guys will help american economy.
so true |
   
Kkd
Side Hero Username: Kkd
Post Number: 8940 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:25 pm: |
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Banks bailout understandable...even though i donot support.... Auto bailout maathram too bad too worst anukuntunna....there is no end to bailouts then..... first efficient cars thayaru seyyali.... |
   
Goonda
Hero Username: Goonda
Post Number: 11022 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 146.18.173.72
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:24 pm: |
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Mallik:
I believe paying to these big 3 is better than paying to banks, which played with the investor money. These car companies didnt cheat any one like lehman,wachovia,AIG,Countrywide and few other banks. These guys deserve the bailout as they have just started out the hybrid reveloution. Helping these guys will help american economy. |
   
Mallik
Comedian Username: Mallik
Post Number: 1044 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:15 pm: |
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Do the Big 3 need bailout of 25Bil? Infact why do they need this bailout? To me, its just their incompetence in the industry that is leading their failure? Why not Toyota/Honda/Renault-Nissan not asking for such help? If they do need some loan, why not the oil companies not interested in lending the money? Its in their interest to keep these car companies afloat. Reppodduna, atlantic city casino vaallochhesi.. maaku losses ostunnai.. give us some money to ante pojition hemit? In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  |