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Unorthodox
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Mallik:

Thriller, Mystery and Suspense are interchangebale anpistadi naakaithe


kaadu tammee...Thriller, mystery anevi proper genres...suspense is an element of a genre, can be used in mystery or thriller...depending on how you present your material a story can be fit to a mystery or thriller structure...
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Orthodox: Thriller, Mystery and Suspense are interchangebale anpistadi naakaithe. These three are hardly different from each other as per me..
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Good inputs by everyone. Let me first post my thoughts and then we can have point by point discussion...will respond to other posts later...

Before we get into the elements of this thriller story may be it's more important to look at the stakes in the story...is it a pure thriller or is there some other aspect working for the story for us to care and wait for the end result?? how many times do we see bombs planted or some other terrorist activity in hollywood films?? When we see such films, to what extent do our minds come up with the imagination of the aftermath if the villains succeed in implementation of their plan???

2) Stakes in 'A Wednesday': 4 bombs vs 4 terrorists...what is at stake in the story??? each bomb, which is supposedly planted by Naseer, could potentially kill several hundreds of people...the lives of mumbai people, how many we don't know yet but the very threat of bombs in mumbai sends shivers in our spine, is at stake...the best way to rise stakes in a story is to threaten the audience with a story device called murder/murders of the innocent(note innocent)...common people in mumbai are innocent, have no idea of the threat lurking in somewhere

If this film were to be made before 1991, would it have carried same emotional concern we have towards the film today??? I don't think so...that's what makes this thriller rise above the ordinary...

It has become so common phenomenon that we don't know what news is waiting for us in the paper or website everyday. Though terrorism is neither new nor alien to us, it's the frequency, the scale, the level and almost 'at will' kind of the attacks, by the more dangerous and well equipped terrorists , is the burning issue for India today...

In the wake of the serial blasts, the film strikes an emotional chord...

Here the possible bomb blast/s is/are high stakes...to hand the 4 terrorists is less stakes...Why? aren't they amount to same risk?? I think they are at a different level when we measure the risk, from the govt perspective, from the police department perspective, from the common man's perspective...

3) Suspense in 'A Wednesday': 2 points contributing to suspense in the story are; 1) police attempting to know who the caller is, while we see who the caller is and where he is calling from 2) more importantly deciding on whether to hand over the terrorists. Will talk about about the first part later. Also will elaborate the suspense part later...

second part is related with the final outcome in the story...3 results are possible from story perspective...

a) The blasts happen and that would have broken our hearts with grief and tragedy, which is not the case here...would not have been a bad choice considering that it would have imparted a huge shock value in our minds, from the story perspective...had the writer taken this route, it would have raged our minds further and stirred our stagnant minds...after all the purpose of the art, in my opinion, is to present a burning issue or rather to force us think on issues that matter...

b) The blasts are prevented and we our hearts will be filled with joy and story ends satisfactorily...which is the case here...the writer takes this route to arouse hope and clear ending...also because the police think that handing over the 4 terrorists in the hope of learning where the planted bombs are so they can diffuse them, is a better option, they take this route because they sacrifice the low stakes (handing over terrorists) to avert high stakes' possible crime (blasts)...

c) No clear ending...results in hopelessness and a condition of unfulfilled desire...results in unsatisfactory ending...not the case here...very good choice by the writer...

(to be continued...)

There could be a few faults, I was aware of them at that time, but despite it I thought we will be able to make the film work. It was confidence. But, then, you get on--Mani Rathnam
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Mallik:

. just didnt like it..




hehe ok mama, sometimes we dont like some stuff for unknown reasons. idhi anthe anukundhaam poni :D
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Mental: Only jimmy shergill role gurinchi talkedi nenu. Sarfarosh lo kooda muslim role undi. But naaku akkada theda kanabadaledu. Kaanee ee movie lo shergill gaadi turaka role ekkaledu.. just didnt like it..
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Mallik:

Its simply to pacify the muslims anipichhindi anthe..




mama dhaani lo naseeruddhin shah chepthaadu, thanu aa perlu hand pick cheyaledhu, random ga select ayina perlu avi ani.. ala random ga select chesina anni perlalo andharu muslims ravatam elaanti pacify cheyatamo cheppu mama...

aa movie lo neeku migatha roles kante ee role ki muslim ichi unte baagundu ani edhaina anipinchindha.. muslims ni pacify cheyatam kante, all muslims are not anti-india anedhi ekkuva choopinchinattu anipinchindhi naakaithe.. but thats my view.
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sainma lo only one good turak character ani nachaledaa


Its simply to pacify the muslims anipichhindi anthe.. adi anavasaram.. oka serious movie based on our bomb blasts experience theeste correct gaa thiyyaale.. if director wants to put a turak character, let him.. kaani movie lo most important role adi.. aa role ki turakonni pedthe.. asalu purpose solve kaaledu.. mediocre movie ayyindi naa uddesham la..
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Mallik:

I simply didnt like this character. Asalu antha manchi concept ni cheda dobbindi.




Preconceived notions tho movie chudadam thappu, vadu muslim kaakapothey adey role baga nacchedaa manaki, i don't know why we have to categorize everything based on nationality /religion/caste ...
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Mallik:

I simply didnt like this character. Asalu antha manchi concept ni cheda dobbindi.


sainma lo only one good turak character ani nachaledaa
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Unorthodox:




annai good writeup.ippude clear ga ardham ayyindi..thriller ki mystery genre ki difference...waiting for ur next post..
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Anand_n:

Special mention Shergill's response when one of the guys at the end is exhorting him to join their ranks - it was perfection - no sermonising... just plain derision


I simply didnt like this character. Asalu antha manchi concept ni cheda dobbindi.

I loved 'Mumbai Meri Jaan' more than this movie.
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Unorthodox:

I am still waiting to be proved otherwise with my conviction of deciding the film in 30 minutes.




I think there have been few movies that i turned off within 30 minutes, but then its me. I will list few of the movies, let me know what has made you watch the movie past 30 mins, if you have seen those movies.

Sixth Sense - the first time, i tried to watch it, i dint find anything interesting in the movie. i thought it was painfully slow.
American Beauty - same case, dint know what was the movie about and i dint find anything interesting in the first 30 mins
Saw 1 - i thought it is just another psycho movie, nothing new aboutit. the next time i watched the entire movie, i was shocked.
Fight Club - I am a fan of Ed Norton. But the movie's i will not say 30 but 20 mins was not much appealing.

If you have seen these movies, entirely the first time, i would like to know what were the points that made you sit past the 30 mins.
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'Being Cyprus


sorry its "being Cyrus'
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Rebel:

aa 30 mins he already finds its a junk movie ..so no need to watch it again emo...


if u take movies like 'Being Cyprus' ..first 30 mins endhuku teestharu raa itlanti cinemalu anukovali...may be thats not right for every cinema..(my view)
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Anand_n:

if you stop watching after 30 mins - how would you ever find out if you were wrong in turning off the movie


aa 30 mins he already finds its a junk movie ..so no need to watch it again emo...:-)
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Unorthodox:

I am still waiting to be proved otherwise with my conviction of deciding the film in 30 minutes.




Just curious - if you stop watching after 30 mins - how would you ever find out if you were wrong in turning off the movie

Do you ever go back and watch the whole movie to validate the decision ?
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I thought it was an excellent movie...

Killer,
Suspense literature lo red-herring ane concept untundi - the idea is to mislead the reader into suspecting someone other than the perpetrator so that the ending is effective.Meeru cheppina points notice chesanu movie lo ..but my take after the movie was they were put in there as red-herrings ...

There were more logical flaws - like how did Naseer get hold of the technology, SIMs and explosives etc. but suspension of disbelief has been drummed into our psyches when it comes to movies so I did not dwell too much on it..:-)

The positives far outweighed these flaws...

Character development - Superb - whether it was Anupam's the two inspectors, the reporter or Naseer.

Acting : Again superlative - a delight to watch the thespians in perfect form

Script and screenplay - nary a dull moment

Story : To say its an aftermath of the blasts is too generic - It is a laserpoint focus on one man's reaction- and the events surrounding that reaction.

Dialogues : 10/10 - terse, almost staccato delivery befitting the situation.

Special mention Shergill's response when one of the guys at the end is exhorting him to join their ranks - it was perfection - no sermonising... just plain derision :-)
Naseer's tirade at the end..and the reaction in the conrol room
Anupam's final dialogue after refusing to divulge the name - Naam mein mazhab dhoondh lete hai log...apt ending to the movie.

Direction - I really can't think of any negatives..Ofcourse a lot of people found it problematic to accept the muslim cop - someone forgot to tell Kalam that patriotism is a prerogative of hindus :-)
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Hi all,

Looks like some good discussion going on, here is my take...please do correct me if you feel my understanding is incorrect...

When I watch a film on a DVD, I either end up watching it fully or stop viewing it after 30 minutes...I strongly believe that 30 minutes is all it takes to decide on whether to view it beyond that point or not. At the risk of sounding arrogant, I am still waiting to be proved otherwise with my conviction of deciding the film in 30 minutes.

At the very outset let me mention that this is not yet another of those reviews, readily available on the net, nor would I touch up on the performances of the actors, mostly what those who viewed the film are talking about. Neither I would dwell up on the craft of the other 'behind the scenes' artists including director, cinematographer, BG scorer and editor to name a few.

Not that I don't want to talk about them, but it's just that since reviewers mostly design their writing around these aspects, I feel it's redundant. Also performance, for example, is something you can see with your naked eye unassisted by a microscope.

I will attempt to bring out the most unappreciated part of film making, the writing, in this case by Neeraj Pandey, who happens to be the director as well.

1) Genre: Let's see to which genre the film can best be fit to. It's difficult to draw a clear line between a mystery and a thriller, for often the elements of either genre overlap, yet there are a few elements unique to mystery or thriller. I am skipping the details but presenting the main ideas...

In a mystery a crime is already committed and it takes a hero to uncover it and bring the perpetrator to the justice. In a thriller, a crime is about to be committed or explicitly clear to occur in near future, and it requires an immediate action by a hero and co to prevent the villain/s from implementing their criminal or unjust plan.

In a mystery, the focus is on the hero figuring out whodunit and sometimes whydunit(best way to articulate a message is to explore whydunit). In a thriller the concentration is on the suspense element of it; will the hero thwart the actions of the villain? what happens if the villain succeeds?

In a mystery the key element is mystery; it's a mystery when the detective and audience learn at the same time, who the killer is...detective and audience share same information at any point of time. However the hero, because of experience in his field, may infer more out of clues...

In a thriller the key element is suspense; suspense is we/audience know who the villain is, but the hero doesn't...audience are 2 steps ahead of the hero. We hear the word 'suspense thriller' often, for suspense is the main element of a thriller, however suspense in itself is not given a genre status.

When one character in a story knows information which is unknown to another character, it's suspense...to what affect you use that unknown information of one character in your story depends on the craft level of the writer...

It's not uncommon for the genres to overlap in the same screenplay. Let's apply the above to 'A Wednesday'

By looking at the grand schema/plot, it's easy to conclude that it's a thriller, for the film is all about a bargaining barter Naseer is forcing the police dept to...4bombs vs 4 terrorists...it's a most likely event in the next few hours...it did not happen already but about to happen...and the focus here is on the question...will the terrorists be exchanged for bombs to avoid mass killings is the question we look forward to, for answers...we know who is trying to get the terrorists out but the police department doesn't, that's the suspense element of this thriller...

If the film were to be about Anupam and his team trying to figure out who the criminals are after looking at the crime scene of a blasted train, which already took place, it would have been a mystery...

At a very high level, looking at the high concept, we can say 'A wednesday' is a thriller...however it does use one element of mystery genre, whydunit...

We can then say it's a thriller which borrows one element of mystery...

Plot elements/devices used in this film...in next post...

(to be continued...)

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1)In the beginning Anupam Kher says "It was a wednesday...and that ••••••• walked in to our lives"......This is totally misleading....as per the story Anupam Kher is speaking after the incident....so there was not enough reason to call Nasir a •••••••....I felt it was to mislead the viewer to believe that Nasir is a bad guy....



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Dhaarkaar:

A Wednesday is a thriller dealing with aftermath of terrorist attacks...indhulo characters andharu agreesive and the movie is all about what happened from 2 to 5.30 pm...




The main point in the movie is common man's frustation because of Govt failure to stop terror attacks again and again.

After 9/11 also here in USA mnay people frustated and felt insecure about their future.But here Govt made strict lawsa and severe punishmnet to cuprits
helped this country and we didn't see not even single attack after 9/11

So in "wednesday" movie director deliberately avoided politicla angle,but politcal will and strict laws are necessary for dealing with terrorisam.
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Teluguhero:

But Director failed to depict true picture of terrorisam.He deliberately avoided political angle.Becuase of stupid politicians and political parties terroists are successful in attcking any place in India.


A Wednesday is a thriller dealing with aftermath of terrorist attacks...indhulo characters andharu agreesive and the movie is all about what happened from 2 to 5.30 pm...
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Antha goppa movie aithe kaadu but worth watching once. Turakonni shareef police lekka petti gabbu lepindu synma ni.. asalu turaka element (patriotic sense) ae undakunda unte baagundedi..
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A Wednesday is good film and fine performances from Anupam kher and Nseer.

But Director failed to depict true picture of terrorisam.He deliberately avoided political angle.Becuase of stupid politicians and political parties terroists are successful in attcking any place in India.
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assalu okka magadu title ee cinema ki ettalsindi
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Killer225:

1)In the beginning Anupam Kher says "It was a wednesday...and that ••••••• walked in to our lives"......This is totally misleading....as per the story Anupam Kher is speaking after the incident....so there was not enough reason to call Nasir a •••••••....


meeru chepinaa points ani nenu observe chesanu...Yes..this was misleading...

But is it worth to mislead viewers with this word..I would say yes..movie ki heart screenplay..screenplay kosam konni kinda of commercial angle jodhinchadu to make the viewers think..and the first impression I got is yes may be he is a real terrorist...and the story went on...
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The loopholes apart, I preferred Mumbai Meri Jaan to A Wednesday for various reasons....
one of the reasons is discussed here
http://navatarangam.com/2008/10/angry-middleclass-films/

The other reason is: What we have in A Wednesday and Mumbai Meri Jaan is the after math of an incident....I feel Mumbai Meri Jaan is a reaction that I can identify with.....where as A Wednesday is a reaction that I dont believe in......
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I liked the movie...it was well executed....but there were many loopholes:

1)In the beginning Anupam Kher says "It was a wednesday...and that walked in to our lives"......This is totally misleading....as per the story Anupam Kher is speaking after the incident....so there was not enough reason to call Nasir a ....I felt it was to mislead the viewer to believe that Nasir is a bad guy....
2)Later the films starts with a flash back and we see Nasir going to a Railway station and leaving a bag there....this again is very misleading; First of all we dont know in whose point of view this scene is being shown. If it is an objective point of view I dont see any point in this (the train, railway station etc)scene. If it was at the police station that he placed the bag the director should have started with this scene.
3)There is also a scene where we see a photograph of a suspected leader of the militants and the picture so clearly shows Nasir...

In all the above three the viewer is cheated to believe that Nasir is infact a terrorist.. Compare this with Kaun or Psycho....In all these films the basic point is same....a revelation in the end that will come as a shock to the viewers.....but in Kaun/Psycho and even Sixth Sense the viewer is not cheated with fasle info....
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unortho bhayya..i liked this movie...here in db some people raised some flaws on this movie and i answered them in those threads...dont know they are convinced....

naaku endhukunachhindhante....

few yrs back when i saw blast victims on tv..i felt very said...i assumed dawood masterminded this attacks...i thought what if some one related to me where hurt in those blasts.... mind lo enna aalochanalu vachhai...every now and then i used to think about how i will deal with dawood if i know he did some harm to me....

cheputhe nammaru ayithe cinema lo type chala scenes anthaka mundhe naa oohalaki vachhai...but not clear...my fear is how i will hold dawwod...what i will do if i catch him...i will kill him in public...then what about my security from his man...if i kill in private , is it enough for him..fist of all how i will keep him with me till i kill him....

or i plan to kill him the way they did .... challanging whole police department ... i want to prove that the laws are not capable of punishing the criminals...do i need to terrorise the terrorist ....thats where i related a wednesday....


movies are of diff types...

1. fantasy
2. mass subjects ( we just enjoy them , but can never think of our life's that way, atleast not at this age)
3. natural , where we can connect the story with what we do in real life
4. natural, where we can connect the story to actually what we like to do, what we want to do, how we must react to situations( but we may not do that way, we get compromised )

i like 4th type of movies...and a wednesday is one of them....

satyame sivam of kamal is my all time fav. movie.
DIviseema Sky gari FAN
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prakas raj ni etti


mari 1.30 hrs ante autodrivers, beggars choodaleru...2.30 hrs...3 fights, 1 masala song, 4 duets, 1 theme songs vunte kanisam theater ki vastharemo anukuntunaa..
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prakas raj ni etti telugulo 'mangalavaram' ani theesi set sesthar anukuntunna


mangalvaram..ante chaala chandalangaa vundhi...'AA ROJU' ante baguntadhi...
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prakas raj ni etti telugulo 'mangalavaram' ani theesi set sesthar anukuntunna
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Last 15 mins dialouges are wonderful. Anupam Kher and Nasiruddin Shah poti padi natincharu. Ek se Badkar Ek. Tight screenplay. Dialogues were apt and Crispy. Mumbai lo local travel alavatu unnollaki inka baga touch chestadi movie.
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Unortho kaaka..yes I'm upto the disc..cheppandi...

Here are the points that I believe are the positive:
1) Screenplay: is tight..ekkada kooda audience ki bore kottakunda..suspense ninchi side avakundaa..story ninchi bend avakundaa..neat gaa on the rocks annatu vundhi...Screenplay based movies tho idhi one of the best..

2) Dialogues: Crispy, no melodrama..point to point...

3) Performances: FIrst rate.. andharu...

4) Direction: intha pedhaa mission ni accomplish chesthunaa Nasurredin ...lunch tune avagane sandwich tinatam entha cool ga choopinchado anthe cool gaa vundhi direction....Direction is good...

5) Concept : COncept anukodiki points...may be this not realistic..but screenplay tho ..yes this may be possible ani choopinchadu...
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Unorthodox:

nuvvu mani fan vaa tammudu





avunu annayi......chala chala istam ayana bommal...ento ee majja quality taggindemo ani doubts vastunnay :-(
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Mario_puzo:

cool


nuvvu mani fan vaa tammudu
There could be a few faults, I was aware of them at that time, but despite it I thought we will be able to make the film work. It was confidence. But, then, you get on--Mani Rathnam
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Unorthodox:




cool
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Mario_puzo:

bhai....nee siggi lo stmnt ee synma meeda eppudichundu mani sir??


yuva appudu...here is the question and answer

interviiwer: Your films are rooted in the local idiom and have done well for that reason. Dil Se/Uyire was one movie that failed to connect at that level. With the 20:20 vision of hindsight, what could you have done differently?


Mani: I don't know. When you make a movie for a year-and-a-half, obviously you are convinced that it is right. Yes, the film didn't do commercially well. Yes, I made a mistake, but that doesn't mean the one-and-a-half years were a lie. It was intended to be right, but some elements didn't work. There could be a few faults, I was aware of them at that time, but despite it I thought we will be able to make the film work. It was confidence.But, then, you get on.
There could be a few faults, I was aware of them at that time, but despite it I thought we will be able to make the film work. It was confidence. But, then, you get on--Mani Rathnam
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Unorthodox:



mama cnma super gaa untundi, slow gaa unnaa touch chethaadu, climax expect chesinde ayinaa baaguntundi
positives - no big stars, tight screenplay
negatives - slow gaa untundi
chiru 4 telugu, rajni 4 tamil, mohanlal 4 malayalam, amitabh 4 hindi - superstars of cinema
Sachin - superstar 4 indian cricket
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bhai....nee siggi lo stmnt ee synma meeda eppudichundu mani sir??
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Unorthodox:

nenu anukuntannadi writing part. meeku anipinchindi raayandi




hmm...meetho writing lo pettukonule annai..antha talent ledu...meeru rayandi..chadivi pedatha...M-S annai laaga add chesta points...
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Unorthodox:

u anipinchindi raayandi




actual ga nenu movie motham soodaledhu, movie lo antha over simplify chesaaadu anipinchindhi. i will have to watch it one more time, choosi 2 months avuthunnatu undhi. but scenes emaina discuss chesthunte, may be i can put up what i felt then. andhuke just choosa ani raasa first post lo
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Lolli synma
Mera puranaa naam...Idlebrain_fan
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Ntr_fan:

na ante..positives meedana..negatives meed




tone soosthunte unortho babai ki konchem touch ayinattu anipisthundhi. movie lo saana faults unnaayi, kaani variety try sesaadu kurrodu.. naa dhrushti lo
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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ms,ntr_fan,
nenu anukuntannadi writing part. meeku anipinchindi raayandi
There could be a few faults, I was aware of them at that time, but despite it I thought we will be able to make the film work. It was confidence. But, then, you get on--Mani Rathnam
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yup, iam ready annai...Discussiona ante..positives meedana..negatives meedana?
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Unortho babai,
how are you?

I have seen the movie too.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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oka northie gaadu roju cheputunte raatri DVD lo chuusaa...'A wednesday' hindi film ni...anyone up for discussion???
There could be a few faults, I was aware of them at that time, but despite it I thought we will be able to make the film work. It was confidence. But, then, you get on--Mani Rathnam

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