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Anand_n
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Shawshank:

you accuse the BJP of being leftist (minority appeasing).



Its not a question of believing the article - That Vajpayee increased the Haj subdsidy is a fact :-)

I am not accusing them of being leftist, I am questioning your claims that they will undo the "minority appeasement" other govt.s have propagated...and that they are the answer to the minority problems...

I personally think they are no better or worse than any other set of politicians as a party :-)
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Anand, it would be gr8 if BJP can pull off an election with Uniform Civil Code, Article 370 and Ram janma bhoomi in its manifesto.

but then i dont think BJP will be able to get atleast 100 seats, if that is the case. We all compromise at some point in life, BJP is doing the same.

If you want to take that article as proof, then I cant help it. Media can spin what we talk in any way. Also you have to realize one thing, in a country where secular people like Elca are accusing BJP of being Hindu fundamentalist, you accuse the BJP of being leftist (minority appeasing). BJP is the only party, some what sticks to the Sangh ideals of a Hindu Rastra (which the secular like and Minorities oppose). so you can see where does that leave BJP in the issue.
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Shawshank/Divi,

Divi justified the special protection of Wakf, can someone please explain to me how this promise from BJP does NOT qualify as "appeasement" ?

Addressing a huge public meeting at this Muslim dominated parliamentary constituency on Thursday, Vajpayee appealed to Hindus and Muslims not to view each other with suspicion.

He claimed that a lot was being done for the Muslims by his government and cited the example of increase in Haj subsidy. He promised 2 crore jobs for Urdu speaking people if returned back to power.


from :
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/632564.cms

Do they have the conviction to fight an election by putting the Uniform Civil Code on their manifesto ?

I don't think so :-)
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Mithra for dawood seddhaam>>>>>>>>>

evvarinina exchange seyyocchu....musalodiki offer edithey ....aadu patriot ani sollu dhobbuthaa book release sesthey nenee thread esa....
eee disco lo Mitra em setthunnadu...
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I donno why MODI came back to power in gujarat.....may be gujaratis are so forgiving to give imp to development rather than basic human values....
But I can definitely say Godhra was a factor for BJP not making it in central....
Vajpayee himself admitted to it....
Again I say there is no excuse for a rath yatra.....its bull shxt....all it did was deat,destruction and rape....and if some one gets famous for such acts then its better he commits suicide....




brother .. today i am going to take the pain to explain what I feel about the whole issue ..

1) Modi back to power - gujjus forgiving - India did not forgive!
A) What Modi did in Gujarat was bad .. agree .. but was it good for you to ignore what our 'beard brethren' did? Why the hell did they fire a whole compartment containing hindus/sadhus returning from Ayodhya? It is just to show that they do not respect the feelings of Hindus worshiping 'Ram Lala' at Ayodhya. Only because they do not approve what the Supreme Court approved for Hindus! Now tell me, do they have the right to take away our right to worship?
What followed in gujarat, not only muslims lost their lives, many hindus lost their lives too (media counts only muslim lifes and not hindu lifes - what a pity). The riots were not pre-planned. You have to understand this point, it was just a reaction to a bloody brutal attack on our sadhus. I know that you do not subscribe to this ! What you want is .. you do not want people to react when we loose 58 sadhus. It is a sentimental moment .. hope you understand that.

Gujarat voted for modi .. not once but twice! Regarding BJPs loss at the center .. it was simply bad luck .. in 1999 BJP had 180 odd seats .. in 2004 .. it had 147. nor did congi win hands down .. it had 153 .. If you think those loss of 30 odd seats had a share of Gujarat riots, then u r mistaken, a lot had to do with issues like tehelka, anti-incumbency of BJP and its allies like TDP and bad timing of polls (who would want to go to polls in Summer, when the country does not have electricity, water and other basic amenities - all the feel good is evaporated). So think twice before just blaming what happenned in Guj 2002 for BJP's defeat.

2)Again I say there is no excuse for a rath yatra.....its bull shxt....all it did was deat,destruction and rape.
a) death, destruction and rape happenned bcos .. the people who did not have rights on the masjid wanted it .. it is a matter of faith for the hindus, it is the birth place of a god who gave them the golden age which we refer to as "Ram Rajya". He as "Maryada Purushottam" is worshipped by a billion people .. u have to understand that. Every body who is religious has a value attached to the birth places of their Gods. The sanctity of those places should be undisputed. Holy places like Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Mecca etc .. were not dragged into a controversy bcos of minority people who came to this land, lay a claim on it. We, Hindus have some rights in our country. Understand that.

The minorities were adamant and that is the only reason we saw all the hatred spreading around, you have to correctly identify what is the root cause.
Centre or State .. Bhajapa (BJP)
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Andharoo yedhavaley....>>>

Mari only Adhvaani gaadi meedha, only Modi gaadi meedha disko endhuku?

Adwani for Dawood badhulu
Rahul for dawood,
Mithra for dawood seddhaam
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vaallaki indian citizenship isthadhi. Patriotism at its best mari.>>>>>>

Andharoo yedhavaley....dhaaravahikam 300va bhagam....kikikiki
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Telugu_times:

TN
Orissa




Baba,

Depending on who they are aligned with in TN they can win some allies' support

Orissa they are already partner with Biju and their partnership is not breaking in the near future..

I think they are in power in 11 states..

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Wat a patriot....kikikiki >>>

hehehe. Mana prasthutha central govt ki, west bengal lo, Assam lo votes vesay vaalla lo, 30% Bangladeshi citizens untaaru. Mana govt kooda, near future lo , vaallaki indian citizenship isthadhi. Patriotism at its best mari.
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Central lo, BJP eppudoo scene ledhu. Be it godhra or no godhra, they can not form govt in delhi. Out of 25 states in India, there are many major/big size states, where it can not even win 2/3 MP seats confidently. How can they form in delhi? >>>>>>
....watever goodwill BJP generated after coming to power completely washed away with GODHRA....also advani not thinking twice to embtrace orgs like bajrang dal responsible for attacks on christians also is also sick....
advani himself under a CBI investigation heads a ministry to which CBI reports....
Wat a patriot....kikikiki
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I donno why MODI came back to power in gujarat.....may be gujaratis are so forgiving to give imp to development rather than basic human values....
But I can definitely say Godhra was a factor for BJP not making it in central.... >>>

Modi did 100's of different things in Gujarath. Godhra is one of them.

Central lo, BJP eppudoo scene ledhu. Be it godhra or no godhra, they can not form govt in delhi. Out of 25 states in India, there are many major/big size states, where it can not even win 2/3 MP seats confidently. How can they form in delhi?
A.P
TN
Orissa
Bengal
Assam

lo almost nill
with the rise of dalits and BCs, no hope in Bihar, U.P as well.
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Chivuks:

if u believe that the agenda of the hindus and people like advani to take out rath once in a while and massacre the other sect ... it would not be possible for somebody to start counting such incidents ... if u think people of gujarat have voted the bjp govt to power again, for the sake of promoting violence, think twice .. gujarat also happened to be the birth place of UR own Gandhiji ...



I donno why MODI came back to power in gujarat.....may be gujaratis are so forgiving to give imp to development rather than basic human values....
But I can definitely say Godhra was a factor for BJP not making it in central....
Vajpayee himself admitted to it....
Again I say there is no excuse for a rath yatra.....its bull shxt....all it did was deat,destruction and rape....and if some one gets famous for such acts then its better he commits suicide....
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Daksh:

from their view point, if dawood and advani are the same, are you doing the same? closet paki?



lets c...
advani sprays gasolene on a dying fire....
leads to riots and massacres of innocent people(hindus and muslims)....
dawood in retaliation bombs and kills more innocent people .......
WHAT ADVANI DID FOR PAK IS NOT AN ISSUE.....IS HE ELIGIBLE FOR AN EXCHANGE....HELL YEAH
wat difference is there between advani and dawood except advani has a thilak on his forehead
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Daksh:


link endhi? manaki dawood is a terrorist. what do they need advani for? asalu pak gallani em chesaadu eeyana?
from their view point, if dawood and advani are the same, are you doing the same? closet paki?




perfect .. that was my point ..

If being a secular person, your views always match with a fundamentalist religion (Turaks), then there should be no difference between the two!
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Why this special treatment of wakf properties and not for other religious properties? How is it different from appeasement the other parties are accused of ? This is from the BJP website...http://www.bjp.org/


Don't have the time to discuss at length - but I am still waiting for the day a political party has the gumption to put Uniform Civil Code on its manifesto:




In my book, the meaning for secularism would be this ! A govt that will look after every religion/community with a fair/equal treatment, but not a govt that will be averse to religion and say they are being secular .. a big NO!!

In India, we have always mixed both only to get the worst possible policy :-) .. the successive govts at the center have always shown their aversion towards Hinduism/Hindu culture and any thing related .. while the same govts have pursued a pro-active policy towards the minority religions! This in a way is the case when we had kings/rulers like 'Ibrahim Lodi/Sher Shah Suri/Babar/Akbar/Aurangazeb/British/Nizams/Nehru/Indira/Raji v'.

Now coming to the case of BJP protecting minority interests, I am all for it, but there should be a same stance regarding Hindu rights/properties/culture. And by far BJP is the only political party that has guts to come close to this description.

We have had 14 elected govts in democratic India with congress leading or having a part in atleast 11 of the govts and for lead the country for 51 out of 61 years. The way they have pursued minority appeasement, it will take similar years of a BJP govts (not NDA) to undo the ills of that period under congress.

If Advani with 60 years of public life is unfit to lead/serve India then only God save this country .. !!!

Jai Bharat :-)
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Daksh:




before that ... can u decode the below item for me??

Former Prime Minister V.P. Singh today said that the Mandal Commission announcement prepared the ground for the flagging off rath yatra by the BJP which created a psyche leading to the demolition of Babri Masjid in 1992.

âAyodhya, which was not on their (BJPâs) political agenda, for which they had made so many assurances, became their main agenda. It led to the rath yatra and building of a psyche which finally resulted in the demolition of Babri Masjid,â Mr V.P. Singh said while deposing before the Liberhan Commission of Inquiry.
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Chivuks:

there are theories, and just not the theories alone, that suggest that there are preludes and culimination for these episodes that took place




like what?
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Elcaminocapastrino:

I dont buy this man...ratha yatra is done for a good purpose....godhra was done for a good purpose...they r all mere excuses to cover their cheap acts....




elca ... it is okie if u want read the snippets of the whole story and make ur judgement ... there are theories, and just not the theories alone, that suggest that there are preludes and culimination for these episodes that took place ... if u believe that the agenda of the hindus and people like advani to take out rath once in a while and massacre the other sect ... it would not be possible for somebody to start counting such incidents ... if u think people of gujarat have voted the bjp govt to power again, for the sake of promoting violence, think twice .. gujarat also happened to be the birth place of UR own Gandhiji ...
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Elcaminocapastrino:

eee offer inkaa active undhaa mana PAK sodharula dhaggara...




link endhi? manaki dawood is a terrorist. what do they need advani for? asalu pak gallani em chesaadu eeyana?
from their view point, if dawood and advani are the same, are you doing the same? closet paki?
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anand garu , its to ensure that wakf properties will be protected by the bjp govt.

to counter the false propaganda by other parties , that bjp will be anti-muslim and it will take over wakf properties ..etc...iam not sure

anyway they have shown equal concern for hindus in kashmir in the same manifesto ....

Our Commitment to Kashmiri Pandits

SEPARATIST and sectarian militancy in Jammu and Kashmir during the late-'80s and right up to the mid-'90s resulted in mass migration from the Valley and other areas in Kashmir. More than 300,000 people, including 250,000 Kashmiri Pandits and Pandits, and Punjabi and Dogra Hindus, apart from Muslims, were forced to flee their home and hearth in the Valley by terrorists and fundamentalists. The BJP promises immediate action to help those displaced from the Kashmir Valley and other parts of the State. Towards this end, we propose to:

1. Work with the Jammu and Kashmir Government to evolve a feasible scheme for the phased return of the displaced people, especially the Pandits, to their ancient land;
2. Provide all assistance to the Jammu and Kashmir Government in order to ensure that the displaced people receive adequate financial assistance, health care, housing, education and employment facilities till such time they are able to return to their land;
3. Evolve a rehabilitation package, including adequate assistance to rebuild houses that have been destroyed, that will be an incentive for returning to the Valley;
4. Ensure that their security is in no way imperiled after they have returned to the land from which they were forced out against their will.
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Shawshank,
I was looking through the BP manofesto to see if they made a commitment to uniform civil code and this is what I found on their position on minorities:-)


Provide all minority communities with equal opportunities for prosperity;
Encourage access to education which is the key to social and economic progress;
Give all incentives to artisans, especially those involved in traditional arts and crafts;
Initiate special self-employment schemes and the requisite training programmes;
Launch community programmes for raising the level of awareness among women members of the minority communities and providing them with education;
Amend Article 30 of the Constitution suitably to remove any scope of discrimination against any religious community in matters of education;
Entrust the responsibilities of the Minorities Commission to the Human Rights Commission, thus providing greater protection to members of minority communities;
Set up special courts to try cases of communal violence and, if necessary, amend existing laws to provide for exemplary punishment to those inciting or taking part in communal or sectarian violence. The BJP's commitment is to create a riot-free India;
Protect wakf properties from being usurped by unscrupulous individuals and help wakf boards to develop these properties for the welfare of poor Muslim families;
Ban job advertisements which require applicants to declare their religion.



Why this special treatment of wakf properties and not for other religious properties? How is it different from appeasement the other parties are accused of ? This is from the BJP website...http://www.bjp.org/


Don't have the time to discuss at length - but I am still waiting for the day a political party has the gumption to put Uniform Civil Code on its manifesto:
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Leader of the opposition in the Lok Sabha Lal Kishenchand Advani [Images] on Tuesday assured leading Pakistani rights activist Ansar Burney that he would raise with the Indian government the issue of Pakistani nationals being held in prison even after completing their jail terms.

Burney and his son Fahad, currently in India on a private visit, called on Advani, leader of the ppposition in the Lok Sabha, at the latter's residence in New Delhi [Images] to wish him on the occasion of Diwali and to discuss bilateral relations.

"I informed Advani about the cases of Pakistani nationals who were in prison even after completing their jail terms. In the cases of some individuals, they had completed their prison terms 10 or 20 years ago," Burney told PTI on phone from New Delhi.

Advani sought details about such prisoners and said he would take up their issue with the Indian government, Burney said. There are some 50 Pakistani prisoners who have completed their sentences in Amritsar [Images] jail alone, he added.

Burney, a former human rights minister, said Advani also spoke fondly about growing up in the Pakistani port city of Karachi before Partition.

Burney said he and Advani had also discussed human rights issues, bilateral ties and steps to usher in peace between the two countries.

The rights activist also welcomed news about the shifting of Indian death row prisoner Sarabjit Singh to a cell for political prisoners in Lahore's [Images] Kot Lakhpat jail.

"I thank President Asif Ali Zardari and the government for taking such steps as it will only help to foster better relations and love between the two countries," he said.




http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/oct/28sarab2.htm

I hope Advani-ji did not disappoint some 'secular patriot' here! What say for an exchange bro...?
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advani radha yatra seyyakapothe akkada aa mental v.p singh gadu pettina mandal policy ki hindus ye kottukuni champukune tattu kunnaru.

mana lanti moorkhulani kalapatanike advani radha yatra pettindhi .
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nannu kurrodu pakistan cricket team sufforter antunnadu.... >>>

Too bad.
Nuvvu only Shoaib Akthar fan vay gaa?

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knowledge ni sarigaa direct seyya kuntay, simi form avuthadhi.



nuvvu aapu saami...nannu kurrodu pakistan cricket team sufforter antunnadu....
dheenamma jeevitham chasssss
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knowledge ni sarigaa direct seyya kuntay, simi form avuthadhi.
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Chivuks:

unsportsmanlike conduct also has a context attached to it ..



there is no context...its just an EXCUSE....bhaji carried dat temper and slapped srishanth in IPL...dats bhaji is about....long time ago he opened his pants and exposed his penis in a domestic game in punjab and faced disciplinary actions for it....so dont tell me he is doing it only to aussies....dats wat bhaji is...

In my school my frens uncles and their brothers they did went to ram janma bhoomi during dat fiasco....yes they r educated....they r pretty fundamental too when it comes to religion....education and intolerance go hand in hand....the more knowledhe u posess the more information u bound get on the other party...some of the db members in this DB are classic examples...u observe...knowledge ni tame chesi sarigaa direct seyyatam is a big deal anukuntunna....
I dont buy this man...ratha yatra is done for a good purpose....godhra was done for a good purpose...they r all mere excuses to cover their cheap acts....
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Elcaminocapastrino:

ets say...70% of pakistan cricket team have unsportsmanlike like conduct
...........5% of indian crciket team has unsportsmanlike like conduct....




unsportsmanlike conduct also has a context attached to it ..
bajji is unsportsmanlike to aussies .. but for an avg indian, he has just given it back in retaliation ... sachin is unsportsmanlike to gilly, as what he said the otherday .. thatz his definition which very few bought ....

u r against the rath .. but bjp came in to existence with that rath in several places ... and if u want a true picture of the outcome of it, instead of papers and media .. just check ur mates in ur native, u will be surprized that some of the educated class have voted for bjp which they never did before ... they must have seen some people in india celebrating pak's victory, in cricket!!!!
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Chivuks:

yes indian team has my support .. pak team has ur support ...
that does not mean indian and pak outfits are the same!!!



....pak team has my suffort???
coming to ur analogy
lets say...70% of pakistan cricket team have unsportsmanlike like conduct
...........5% of indian crciket team has unsportsmanlike like conduct....
Advani belongs to dat 5% and he was recongnozed and embraced....very unfortunate
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Elcaminocapastrino:

what difference u see in advani and babar....I dont see no difference at all....
except advani has ur support...and babar has muslim fundamentalists support...




yes indian team has my support .. pak team has ur support ...
that does not mean indian and pak outfits are the same!!!
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Chivuks:

and none of them have any support from the masses who vote ...
and coming to the diff between the people who destroyed our temples and advani, it is the same diff between a mullah omar/ahmadinejad and a bush.. all of them were truly elected by their own people, but do u see a diff between them?? u should i guess.



Accha...so inorder to give support to people like vajpayee u need a advani to instigate long forgotten wounds....throw pepper on it....raise the tempers...sacrifice lives and then get fame....get elected....kikiki....this is the best u can come up with???....

do u really think ram comes in advani dreams everyday and advani is doing it to justify his hindhi dharma.....nope....its political.....
what difference u see in advani and babar....I dont see no difference at all....
except advani has ur support...and babar has muslim fundamentalists support...
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Elcaminocapastrino:

but as a responsible leader advani was supposed to look into future for the development and progress....not to dwelve on past and build temples and mosques....as a leader he is the most irresponsible.....no difference between him and those leaders who destroyed our temples in kasmir anukuntunna....




elca ... i always get confused with what we are discussing, after a while. sorry, my bad .. are we discussing a realistic problem or theoretical solution??

there are a few leaders who looked in to the future for development and progress, as my knowledge goes .. PVN, Manmohan singh, vajpayee in his last stint, to name a few ... and none of them have any support from the masses who vote ...

and coming to the diff between the people who destroyed our temples and advani, it is the same diff between a mullah omar/ahmadinejad and a bush.. all of them were truly elected by their own people, but do u see a diff between them?? u should i guess.
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Chivuks:

u think rama janma bhoomi (irrespective of whether u support it or i support, which is irrelevant) is an issue that has no people sentiment or attachment to it ... then u have to have the same opinion on babri masjid as well ... so what if it is destroyed!!!!



absolutely....no froblems if its destroyed and they build watever over it....
but as a responsible leader advani was supposed to look into future for the development and progress....not to dwelve on past and build temples and mosques....as a leader he is the most irresponsible.....no difference between him and those leaders who destroyed our temples in kasmir anukuntunna....
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thammud...ee deal waste anukuntunna....oka vela deal oppukoni advan ni daa wood ni exchange sesina...mana desam lo kshama biksha ettali ani mynority kurrollu gola sethaar...congi gallu kshama biksha edathaaru.....all set .



thanks bedar....nannu dhobbakunda sepparu...dats y iam ur fan....ikkada kurrollu nannu exchange setthamantunnaru.....
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I know I would get single stars ......




when u have an opinion, u dont worry for stars ...

u think rama janma bhoomi (irrespective of whether u support it or i support, which is irrelevant) is an issue that has no people sentiment or attachment to it ... then u have to have the same opinion on babri masjid as well ... so what if it is destroyed!!!!
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I know I would get single stars ......



thammudu...stars ki bhayapadaku..db lu undedhey nijam seppataniki...bayata ilaa maatadithey dhobbutharu anukuntunna...........matham matthulo kallu mooskupinary pajaneekam....
coming to usa u r partly correct....kaani eelllu terrorism ani vadhilepttaru kadha ...valla internal issues lo involve iyyi they give chance for them to hate them anukuntunna...
u were right about indiA...we always had good relations with iraq...iran anukuntunna
except pak and ahghan we r kool with most of em
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thammud...ee deal waste anukuntunna....oka vela deal oppukoni advan ni daa wood ni exchange sesina...mana desam lo kshama biksha ettali ani mynority kurrollu gola sethaar...congi gallu kshama biksha edathaaru.....all set .
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Elcaminocapastrino:

US never made any enemies when they went after terrorists anukuntunna



Ask the syrians they are the latest
Sevaatatvamo rajakeeyamo chance icheke kada telisedi. I'm in for a "CHANGE".
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I know I would get single stars ......
But think about it The whole world knows the bigges millatan groups are in Pakistan.... And guess its colsest country and also its bigget enemy...

If they can bomb biggest towers of the "Super Power" from the other side of the globe .. I think it is a cake walk to hit any damn place in india. And yet I think the rate is low just coz of our strategy :-)
Sevaatatvamo rajakeeyamo chance icheke kada telisedi. I'm in for a "CHANGE".
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US made more enemys with these attempts trying to clean up terrorists,



US never made any enemies when they went after terrorists anukuntunna....
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Chivuks:

bush ganiki vote sesina vallantha ... osama exchange ki ready ga undale ...



ur as good as the leader u chose and suffort anukuntunna....why do u think terrorists attack civilians....
ippudu nenu terrorists ki suffort sesthunna anaku.....
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Elcaminocapastrino:

on the other hand as a responsible person Iam not atleast taking side of one who did nasty things....




nasty things ante ... elca ni kakunda ere judge ni ettu kunte ...
bush ganiki vote sesina vallantha ... osama exchange ki ready ga undale ...
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Chivuks:

terrorists trainig camps ... weapons smuggling .. weapons konukotaniki ganjai thotalu ... ittanti programs shuru jesthar kada??



I thought I was clear ...
US made more enemys with these attempts trying to clean up terrorists, now every muslim county is a terrorist country for them. Well they seem they could afford so many enemys some obvious reasons being "Super Power" "No Enemies in nearest Proximities".

Can india do that ?? I DONT THINK SO.

Knowingly or unknowingly our stategy( Having no strategy) is working. Like if somebody hits you, ignore and do your work, he would think twice to hit you again.
Sevaatatvamo rajakeeyamo chance icheke kada telisedi. I'm in for a "CHANGE".
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Chivuks:

. ani telsi kuda eti seyananduku exchage seyochu .. tappu ledu



nenu manchi sesano ledho irrelevant.......atleast thappu seyyaledhu anukuntunna,,,
.....on the other hand as a responsible person Iam not atleast taking side of one who did nasty things....
Iam not eligible for exchange....
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idhi bhaley undhi vayya.nenem chesina ani exchange setthavu




....desam lo development ki saana scope undhi....saana issues take up seyyochu...fight against child labor,woman rights,saaana unnai alantivi
.. ani telsi kuda eti seyananduku exchage seyochu .. tappu ledu
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Kish:

I agree with Shawshank annai! Why not we exchange Elca for Dawood!



idhi bhaley undhi vayya.nenem chesina ani exchange setthavu
nannu exchange setthey dawood kaadhu....dawood intlo kukka pilla ni kooda iyyaru...
advani ni iitthey...sakkanga set avudhhi.....meeku noppiga untey nuvvu shasshank accompany him to lahore....kikiki
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Thread ippude soosa!

I agree with Shawshank annai! Why not we exchange Elca for Dawood! :D
Chiru + CBN - AP ; BJP + NDA - Centre
Wipe out Congress from India Map!
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I'm sure they make more terrorists.





terrorists trainig camps ... weapons smuggling .. weapons konukotaniki ganjai thotalu ... ittanti programs shuru jesthar kada??
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kocham light veyyi



....desam lo development ki saana scope undhi....saana issues take up seyyochu...fight against child labor,woman rights,saaana unnai alantivi
avanni pakkana petti rama janma bhoomi.....jesus dinner table....allah shaving kit ani votes kosam movements starts sesi....directly reccha kotti...rama janma bhumi chicchu petti....adhi godhra varaku ragilindhi....
rest advani dedho....dawood lelo...dhikthana dhikthana
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sesina papalaki



kocham light veyyi
Sevaatatvamo rajakeeyamo chance icheke kada telisedi. I'm in for a "CHANGE".
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naaku topu petti rechagottina okkatey...siluva esi recha kottina okkatey...radham ekki reccha kottina okkatey



Lessa palikitivi....
Sevaatatvamo rajakeeyamo chance icheke kada telisedi. I'm in for a "CHANGE".
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Chivuks:

neeku ifthar vindulaki attend ayi ... madarasa laki fundings ichi .. topi petti raji namaazulu sesi ... minority ki reservation kalpinchataniki kottuku sache nayakalu sane mande unnaru .. andulo okadni pampu pak ki .. advani enduku ...



evvarina okkatey...kaakapothey paki gallu advani key ee offer ichharu ani inna....
naaku topu petti rechagottina okkatey...siluva esi recha kottina okkatey...radham ekki reccha kottina okkatey
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Shawshank:

thx .. as a true patriot, I want u to accept the offer as well! I mean, u in exchange for Dawood!!! y not?



yeah....nenu radha yatra sesi....nee lantollani rechagotti.....riots ki reason iyyi...nannu pakistan ollu recognize sesi.....saana time undiley kurroda....ee lopala aa musalonni pampidham....sesina papalaki dawood manaki ippincchi koddhiga prayaschitham seskuntadu
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Chilipy:

They are the only guys who have balls to withstand these terrorist



I'm sure they make more terrorists. it may sound timid but I think aggresiveness towards terrorists is something India cannot afford at this moment. I think we should ignore the shit and carry on with the development.

Remember the Saying......


"When one does not Other canot"
Sevaatatvamo rajakeeyamo chance icheke kada telisedi. I'm in for a "CHANGE".
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elca ... neeku ifthar vindulaki attend ayi ... madarasa laki fundings ichi .. topi petti raji namaazulu sesi ... minority ki reservation kalpinchataniki kottuku sache nayakalu sane mande unnaru .. andulo okadni pampu pak ki .. advani enduku ...>>>

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Vaallu Advani ni champi dengutaaru

Dawood ni manollu pardon chestaaru

konta mandi "secularists" velli godava chestaru court mundu

Congress party undagaa aadini em cheyaleru

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"What makes you is what you love. Not what loves you" - Donald Kauffman
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Mario_puzo:


darren gaa!! nuvvu mamulodivi kaadu ra.....nee bhasha janalloki ekkesindi ra....


hahahaha:D
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Chilipy:

They are the only guys who have balls to withstand these terrorist a%%%%les




darren gaa!! nuvvu mamulodivi kaadu ra.....nee bhasha janalloki ekkesindi ra....
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elca ... neeku ifthar vindulaki attend ayi ... madarasa laki fundings ichi .. topi petti raji namaazulu sesi ... minority ki reservation kalpinchataniki kottuku sache nayakalu sane mande unnaru .. andulo okadni pampu pak ki .. advani enduku ...
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Shawshank:

thx .. as a true patriot, I want u to accept the offer as well! I mean, u in exchange for Dawood!!! y not?




well said mama...if BJP comes to power, advani/modi should be PM. They are the only guys who have balls to withstand these terrorist a%%%%les
CM Chiru Zindabad!!
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thx .. as a true patriot, I want u to accept the offer as well! I mean, u in exchange for Dawood!!! y not?
Centre or State .. Bhajapa (BJP)
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eee offer inkaa active undhaa mana PAK sodharula dhaggara....
untey musali naa dash ganni icchi para dhobbali
pseudo patriotic books raasi saava dhobbuthunnadu

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