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$700 billion package is not going to fix all the issues.It will take some time for the credit mkts to unfreeze.

Even today Dow rallied 431 pts from its low.
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inka wait cheyahu .thagudhi anukunta but good one comititers kuda 3,4 companies e vunnai more over vattillo drys making good money.....BAC chusi jagrathaga chesuko ....like buy atleast 300 and 2 to 3 $ margin lo sell cheseai .ok babai repu chudham...inka
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i love when all my friends say this.... last week one of my collegue gujju was like democrats are good they wont bailout , republicans will bailout, they are for corporations anni godava godava chesadu, house lo fail ayye one day mundu cheppa republicans help cheyakapothe bailout vundadu ante vinnade, same oneliner obama good, republicans bad, republicans help only corporations, they should not antadu...ippudu obama support chestunnadu anni...we need money man if not they wont give us anni

obama will be the problem not the solution.... i doubt he has any plan for anything....excuse me for my against to obama but he is a good speaker, less of a solution for anything..




I prefer Obama not for he is going to do some magic, but atleast he sticks to democractic party's ideology. Macain continues with Bush's failed policies in the next 4 years which is disastrous for the country and globally.

Remember one thing, historically Republicans or Dems stick to their ideologies. It is not like they drastically change everything.

Mcain gadu vachina 4 rojullo Iran tho war antadu.
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large ante aig ,oracle,acad, ora ela 20 to 30 $ range vaati meedha peduthunna ....jagrathaga chusukuni chesukunte bac kuda bhane vundhi but 2 to 3 $ margin lo tesei..u will see good money ...wm lo debhatinna konchem andhuke reccover chesthunna ....




DRYS adn exm looks damnnn cheap here.. do u think its time for start possition ???holding atleast 1 yr
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Once we have Obama becomes president hopefully, it helps the sentiment without any doubt. ee lopala ee pedda pedda investors matram pandaga chesuluntaru.






i love when all my friends say this.... last week one of my collegue gujju was like democrats are good they wont bailout , republicans will bailout, they are for corporations anni godava godava chesadu, house lo fail ayye one day mundu cheppa republicans help cheyakapothe bailout vundadu ante vinnade, same oneliner obama good, republicans bad, republicans help only corporations, they should not antadu...ippudu obama support chestunnadu anni...we need money man if not they wont give us anni

obama will be the problem not the solution.... i doubt he has any plan for anything....excuse me for my against to obama but he is a good speaker, less of a solution for anything..
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large ante aig ,oracle,acad, ora ela 20 to 30 $ range vaati meedha peduthunna ....jagrathaga chusukuni chesukunte bac kuda bhane vundhi but 2 to 3 $ margin lo tesei..u will see good money ...wm lo debhatinna konchem andhuke reccover chesthunna ....
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i understand the sentiment part but govt was very fast in coming up with a number and getting it passed....

simple, if you start giving a unruly kid a chocolate , he gets more unruly and wants more chocolates... they should have let it go as it was free market, i am not against a bailout but once the dust gets settled out..if they let it go, banks would have opt for bidding smaller ones, credit would have been tighter but "banks" would have taken the hit too but now buying total debt is totally wrong. no sensible would do that.

its none of govt's business to shoreup sentiment, they did good in bailing out few they could have done it on case by case.

bailout plan was for short term to pump in money and get the credit people want to get the numbers to wallstreet salespeople gonna sell cars, houses for non creditworthy people, coz even with dollars flowing if they dont sell, market sentiment goes down..




Right. But there is no other way to arrest the downfall. This volatility is also due to present president.

Once we have Obama becomes president hopefully, it helps the sentiment without any doubt. ee lopala ee pedda pedda investors matram pandaga chesuluntaru.
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Maha:

2000 shears ala tisukunni 2 to 4 $ margin




aboo... na range...100 lots ley.... 2000 huge.....
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. shorted at 156$.. still holding... may be cover soon....


hmm hope fully...
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it was bounce form 200ma... so we can think its holds for some time


yup ...long run lo 200 reach avudhi anukuntunna but atleast 50% sell chedham ani intrhakumundhu antha dhairyam ledhu ...so chudali ...e madhya ekuvva ga 2000 shears ala tisukunni 2 to 4 $ margin lo tisesthunna ...
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Maha:

no will wait till 100$....down avuthundhi ante ameyadam better epudunna market lo malli down ayyaka konadam just 5 to 10 margin vsthe ammadam better ...jmo


it was bounce form 200ma... so we can think its holds for some time
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Maha:

no will wait till 100$....down avuthundhi ante ameyadam better epudunna market lo malli down ayyaka konadam just 5 to 10 margin vsthe ammadam better ...jmo


better use todays low as a sell stop... looks today is bottom on pot... lets see. im short on it...... shorted at 156$.. still holding... may be cover soon....
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i understand the sentiment part but govt was very fast in coming up with a number and getting it passed....

simple, if you start giving a unruly kid a chocolate , he gets more unruly and wants more chocolates... they should have let it go as it was free market, i am not against a bailout but once the dust gets settled out..if they let it go, banks would have opt for bidding smaller ones, credit would have been tighter but "banks" would have taken the hit too but now buying total debt is totally wrong. no sensible would do that.

its none of govt's business to shoreup sentiment, they did good in bailing out few they could have done it on case by case.

bailout plan was for short term to pump in money and get the credit people want to get the numbers to wallstreet salespeople gonna sell cars, houses for non creditworthy people, coz even with dollars flowing if they dont sell, market sentiment goes down..
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no will wait till 100$....down avuthundhi ante ameyadam better epudunna market lo malli down ayyaka konadam just 5 to 10 margin vsthe ammadam better ...jmo
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Maha:

nt 86 vunatundhi



Are you going to hold for longterm??POT
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Bail out is not a magic pill to eliminate the disease rather it is to slow the infection. It might work or might not work.
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Abcdefghij mama

Bail out is only a sentimental thing to wall street. It takes some time for Bail out to work.

You cannot really link economy with wall street like two water tight compartments.

Market is down more because of emotion rather than actual stuff.
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Bail out is bascially to buy debts of banks. So it replenishes banks with money. So now they can do their business, instead of closing them.

However it takes time for Banks to get profits.

Take a simple example.

Bank AAA borrowed funds uptp $50 millions from Freddie Mae at 2%.

Bank AAA lent this money to home buyers at 6% for 5-30 yrs.

90% of these buyers have foreclosed and are not in a position to pay the bank AAA.

Now Bank AAA is in crisis because AAA is not in a position to pay its loan to Freddie Mae.

Now Freddie is also in peril because all its banks failed to pay its money bank.

Govt's bail out is to help some of these banks by buying those bad debts. So AAA bank gets some $10 mil from govt, which it needs to lend to new customers.

So Bail out is only helps sentiment instantaneously but not totally.

For bail out to work, t might take 2-5 yrs .

That is the story.

Stcok markets are not doing well because investors are thinking that Bail Out is still not enough to east the financial crisis.
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Reasons

a comination of factors are responsible for this state of economy backed by inept Bush economic policy.

1. Iraq war - Bush policy - lot of spending - contributed to uneasyness in middle east and oil pirces hike.

2. Globalization - Outsourcing - impacted manufacturing and service industry

3. Financial institutions broken - Due to various factors (sub-prime) and Govt did not act in time to arrest the failure.

4. Terrorism - 9/11

5. Oil prices - Iraq war, increase in usage (India, China etc) - no development of alternative sources.

6. Lack of fiscal discipline

Solutions

1. Bail out is basically govt buys the debt (bad and doubtful debts) from Financial insts. It takes years for Banks to get benefited. But Bail out will atleast keep them going. Bail out replenishes the left side of their Balance Sheets. So no body knows how long it takes but there is some thing to lift the sentiments of investors.

2. Lack of Fiscal Discipline - Govts in US are wasting lots and lots of money for useless reasons. They need to stop this.

3. Iraq War - It is not prgamatic now to withdraw. So they should start getting money from IRAQ's oil revenues.

4. Provide some tax sops to manufacturing industry specifically.

5. More specific steps towards alternative sources of energy.

6. Housing market. - This is very key for the recovery of housing market. Hopefully with the bail out and govt's intervention in Freddie mae/F will ease the credit freeze and atleast help the prospective buyers.
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present 86 vunatundhi
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78$...
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Maha:

yup pot future lo maalli perughudhi vaadu chepadam banks loan evakka farmers e panta ki crossed fingers ....but still memu gain lone vunna no losses panic inavallu sell chesthunaru ani chepadu so nenu konnanu will see....oracle 2$ more vachina sell chestha so adhi konnanu...


POT ur price???
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i think sap e qquter loss chupinchesariki tec padipoyai ...
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yup pot future lo maalli perughudhi vaadu chepadam banks loan evakka farmers e panta ki crossed fingers ....but still memu gain lone vunna no losses panic inavallu sell chesthunaru ani chepadu so nenu konnanu will see....oracle 2$ more vachina sell chestha so adhi konnanu...
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potash good buy....nenu no...wont pump anymore even if its low






dont take nay logs bro.. untill there is clear sign of uptrend....
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cheppukonte poyedi kadu mava adi....



Blood boiling aa.....this is not good for longs..... fly with wind... j ust shorts....see this guyhttp://www.tradingwithtk.com/
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potash good buy....nenu no...wont pump anymore even if its low.
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e roju oracle ,potash konnara evaraina....
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cheppukonte poyedi kadu mava adi....
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bettter avudhi anukuntunna but will take some time...gas price kuda thagindhi so janaalu malli roadla meedhakostharu money rotation malli perugudhi ..ex mcdonald e rroju down i indhi.....hope fully nest week ki better vudhi ....
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enduku mama kopam...
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DB lo andariki including mccain, obama

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