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Dilsukhnagar
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orini ee type lo kuda pracharam chestunnara.


1994 lo tdp vachinappduu .

state govt dagira employees ki salaries ivataniki kuda dabbulu tight .

telisi vagutharo emi vagutharo teliyadu.

state lo vunna lands anni ammi dobbithe automatic gha budget vachidhi le .
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Gotcha:




Daily edavadam manchidi ani daatar seppio .. mana Rocky bedar trying anamaata .. lite teesukovaali ..

edho morning brunch kosam arguing sestunna .. aapice lo unte .. lite .. time waste ..
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Rocky:

Eppudaithe ilaga rasavo, that shows you lost it.

Sorry. I am out of this thread.




meeru aparachituda ?? okate post ki rendu reactions istunnaru ..
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Rocky:


Neeku ematram burra vunna ila argue cheyyavu?

Kallu pettukonei chedu nayana. Lekapothe votami voppuko.




ikkada manam football game aadutunnama ..

sarle sorry for Tamari tlakaya .. tamaru cheppandi ..
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ee peda manishi prati elections ki ee links sukuni vachestadu le. 2004 elections kuda same links esukuni vachesadu. thinking emi undadu aa links lo emi chebite adi post chesetadu. eeyaniki chiru kante cbn odipovadam mukyam malli pakkodi meeda antadu appreciate cheyali anta chiru change testunadu ani. oka manifesto ledu ippati varaku, manifesto lekunda rastrani appulu lo munchestadu emo kada chiru.
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Whoami:

Rocky & Jack check this regarding Nizam Sugars

http://www.andhranews.com/ftopic178.html

Bolli Babu intentionall screwed up Nizam Sugars




ekkado discussion thread ..

Babu intentionally screwed up Nizam sugrars .. anthe kopam endhuku .. Babu ki chinnappudu Job ivvaledhaa enti vallu ..

oorukondi saami .. Subsidies cut ki .. intentional screw up chaala teda undhi ..
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Jackjill:

Tamari talakaya ..




Eppudaithe ilaga rasavo, that shows you lost it.

Sorry. I am out of this thread.
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Jackjill:

Tamari talakaya ..





Neeku ematram burra vunna ila argue cheyyavu?

Kallu pettukonei chedu nayana. Lekapothe votami voppuko.
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Rocky:

Adhe boss enduku ani? Surplus lo vunna state ni antha deficit loki ela vellindi. Don't tell me lame excuses.

come with figures.




Lame excuses endhi ..

NTR started rs.2 kilo biyyam ... which he continued till sometime..

naa kharma raa babu ..
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Rocky:

Show mw where it is? Show me proofs?




Tamari talakaya ..


Rocky:

Similarly, Naidu reduced government staff ruthlessly to curb expenses. Compared with 3.4 per cent in the pre-1996-97 decade, the growth in government staff fell to under 1 per cent. As a result, the salary component of government expenses fell from 43 per cent in 1994-95 to 35 per cent in 2000-01.




annitiki answers mee articles lone unnayi ..


Rocky:

DWRCA is a central govt program. Raithu Bazar vallana entha mandi farmers ki benefit ayyindi?




Maa nayane .. Central GOVT programs ni perfect gaa use chesukovadam undaali .. he created a Revolving fund for those SHG's and marketed them effectively.

Raithu bazar ante okka Raithuki maatrame help kaadamma .. even Middle class people got helped with reduction of middle men costs.
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Jackjill:

AP was dried up of cash, thats why they went for Overdraft, even pruning has its own costs.

World bank loans are one of the reason to see such a sharp curve of fiscal distress.




Adhe boss enduku ani? Surplus lo vunna state ni antha deficit loki ela vellindi. Don't tell me lame excuses.

come with figures.
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Rocky:

TDP inherited a Rs 234 crore revenue surplus from the Congress(I) in 1994, but pushed the State to a staggering Rs 21,994-crore deficit. In 1996-97, the revenue deficit was Rs 3,199 crore, against loans of Rs 3,111 crores.




Can you tell me , what did he do in two years that there was such a huge deficit?
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Rocky:

What else you want me to understand? He rules 9 yrs. The metrics are there to assess.

Tax to revenue receipt is good but why there is fiscal and revenue deficits?




You resist to understand the then situation of the state, drought.

and one more thing ..


Rocky:

Its revenue deficit-to-revenue receipts ratio fell from 28.6 per cent to 9.7 per cent during this period, while the other states saw the ratio go up several times.




Hope you know the concept of Percentages..




Rocky:

What happend to World Bank loans? Why we were in debt trap when YSR took over the govt?

Why AP govt had to depend upon RBI over drafts for salaries?




AP was dried up of cash, thats why they went for Overdraft, even pruning has its own costs.

World bank loans are one of the reason to see such a sharp curve of fiscal distress.
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Rocky & Jack check this regarding Nizam Sugars

http://www.andhranews.com/ftopic178.html

Bolli Babu intentionall screwed up Nizam Sugars
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Jackjill:

Defecit was there even before CBN came into power, it did not start with him.

One successfull program, DWACRA & raithu bazar's were super hit.

Edo edavali ani tappithe .. Google kaakunda sontham gaa genuine interest tho chadivi ardham chesukunna articles unte post chesi discuss cheyyi ..





TDP inherited a Rs 234 crore revenue surplus from the Congress(I) in 1994, but pushed the State to a staggering Rs 21,994-crore deficit. In 1996-97, the revenue deficit was Rs 3,199 crore, against loans of Rs 3,111 crores.
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Jackjill:

Closing costs, VRS schemes, even pruning has its own costs, infrastrucutural developments - R&B and at the same time drought.




Show mw where it is? Show me proofs?


Jackjill:

Defecit was there even before CBN came into power, it did not start with him.

One successfull program, DWACRA & raithu bazar's were super hit.

Edo edavali ani tappithe .. Google kaakunda sontham gaa genuine interest tho chadivi ardham chesukunna articles unte post chesi discuss cheyyi ..




DWRCA is a central govt program. Raithu Bazar vallana entha mandi farmers ki benefit ayyindi?
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Rocky:


Why this happend?




Closing costs, VRS schemes, even pruning has its own costs, infrastrucutural developments - R&B and at the same time drought.


Rocky:

Reforms cheshte deficit vundala? Tell me one successful welfare program CBN undertook and that was successful?




Defecit was there even before CBN came into power, it did not start with him.

One successfull program, DWACRA & raithu bazar's were super hit.

Edo edavali ani tappithe .. Google kaakunda sontham gaa genuine interest tho chadivi ardham chesukunna articles unte post chesi discuss cheyyi ..
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Takeitez:

Rcoky might give a link from 1989




Sorry boss, there is nothing to lauh here, this is a seriois business. I am sorry to say this.

Answer to my questions.
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Rocky:

the TDP inherited a Rs 234 crore revenue surplus from the Congress(I) in 1994, but pushed the State to a staggering Rs 21,994-crore deficit. In 1996-97, the revenue deficit was Rs 3,199 crore, against loans of Rs 3,111 crores.

PRove this is wrong.

Prove that TDP's over draft from RBI for salaries is wrong.





Why this happend?
Reforms cheshte deficit vundala? Tell me one successful welfare program CBN undertook and that was successful?
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Jackjill:

can you tell me how did he screw up ??




Rcoky might give a link from 1989
TakeitEZ!
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Jackjill:

I have checked all these links, but they just say that AP was fiscally distressed, but that does not mean that he screewed it up.

Tax-to-revenue reciept ratio was low under CBN's regime, i dont know if you understand what they are writing there.

He started privitazation, he has cut down the staff and my friend, ecnomic reforms take sometime to show some results.

Example, Economic stimulus check in US, how many of us spend that money on the day it is announced by bush ? how many of us spent it on the day we recieved? Bottomline : economic reforms take sometime to show results.


And regarding the links you give one YSRportals like on the comedy side




What else you want me to understand? He rules 9 yrs. The metrics are there to assess.

Tax to revenue receipt is good but why there is fiscal and revenue deficits?

What happend to World Bank loans? Why we were in debt trap when YSR took over the govt?

Why AP govt had to depend upon RBI over drafts for salaries?
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Pavala:

U bloody fanatic
guruji aalla sugar factory ni 150 Cr cheap ga ammesaad despite of profits....just to fill his own pocket and help his chamchaas...




Gulug mokham ..

Nizam sugars was in loss, 70cr subsidies on yearly basis, and at that 70 cr was a big amount for GOVT.

And FYI, it was sold to some Raju who was a Congress leader not his own chamchas.
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Pavala:

U bloody fanatic
guruji aalla sugar factory ni 150 Cr cheap ga ammesaad despite of profits....just to fill his own pocket and help his chamchaas...




Pls Pavala I want answers to my questions. Pls help me.
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Rocky:

Check the links.

Screw up ante mamulu di kadu, Mega screw up.




I have checked all these links, but they just say that AP was fiscally distressed, but that does not mean that he screewed it up.

Tax-to-revenue reciept ratio was low under CBN's regime, i dont know if you understand what they are writing there.

He started privitazation, he has cut down the staff and my friend, ecnomic reforms take sometime to show some results.

Example, Economic stimulus check in US, how many of us spend that money on the day it is announced by bush ? how many of us spent it on the day we recieved? Bottomline : economic reforms take sometime to show results.


And regarding the links you give one YSRportals like on the comedy side.
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Jackjill:



U bloody fanatic
guruji aalla sugar factory ni 150 Cr cheap ga ammesaad despite of profits....just to fill his own pocket and help his chamchaas...
Yevadu boora voodhithey Pamulannee bussumani puttalo nundi bhayataku vasthaayo, vaade Pavala
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the TDP inherited a Rs 234 crore revenue surplus from the Congress(I) in 1994, but pushed the State to a staggering Rs 21,994-crore deficit. In 1996-97, the revenue deficit was Rs 3,199 crore, against loans of Rs 3,111 crores.

PRove this is wrong.

Prove that TDP's over draft from RBI for salaries is wrong.
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In contrast, the erstwhile Telugu Desam Government often resorted to overdrafts, he commented. Earlier in the morning the Speaker had suspended the TDP members, except its leader Mr Chandrababu Naidu, for stalling the proceedings. Mr Naidu also walked out in protest. Taking potshots at the 9-year TDP rule, he said the TDP inherited a Rs 234 crore revenue surplus from the Congress(I) in 1994, but pushed the State to a staggering Rs 21,994-crore deficit. In 1996-97, the revenue deficit was Rs 3,199 crore, against loans of Rs 3,111 crores.
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Calling Rising Star




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Calling Rising Star
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Tell me how many times AP under CBN begged RBI for over draft?

malli TDP ki power ivvadam anedi kalla. People are not dumb.
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Splitting the state electricity board into separate distribution and generation companies with an independent regulator, for instance, was in keeping with World Bank suggestions.

Yet, the board’s losses climbed to Rs 2,300 crore in 1999-00 from a profit of Rs 79 crore in 1990-91. These losses account for a third to half of the state’s fiscal deficit.
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Jackjill:

early morning shuru jeshnava ???

can you tell me how did he screw up ?? what policies screwed up ??

As per my understanding, he stabilized the economy which was already screwed by cutting down the subsidies and introducing Zero-based budgets.




Check the links.

Screw up ante mamulu di kadu, Mega screw up.
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Look at some key metrics

1. While its fiscal deficit rose to Rs 7,499 crore in 2002

2. And yet, the state’s debt-to-revenue receipts ratio has climbed from 273 in 1999-00 to 294.31 in 2002-03. A ratio above 300 indicates that a state is highly debt-stressed.

3. Between 1996-97 and 2002-03, Andhra Pradesh’s tax collection rose 2.8 times, a feat unmatched by any other southern state. Still the State scrwed up the economy. It borrowed funds from World Bank, but no boyd knows how it used it.

4. Between 1996-97 and 2002-03, Andhra Pradesh’s tax collection rose 2.8 times, a feat unmatched by any other southern state.


5. On November 16, Andhra Pradesh went into overdraft—its expenses exceeded balances—with the Reserve Bank of India for the first time this fiscal, compared with five times in 2002-03.
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early morning shuru jeshnava ???

can you tell me how did he screw up ?? what policies screwed up ??

As per my understanding, he stabilized the economy which was already screwed by cutting down the subsidies and introducing Zero-based budgets.
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A clear sign of the improvement as well as the precariousness of the state’s finances. While its fiscal deficit rose to Rs 7,499 crore in 2002-03 after declining in the previous year—at 4.7 per cent of the gross state domestic product in 2002-03, it is sharply higher than 2.5 per cent in 1997-98—Andhra Pradesh requested the Centre to release Rs 173 crore to help it meet its fiscal correction targets under the Medium Term Fiscal Reforms Programme.

And yet, the state’s debt-to-revenue receipts ratio has climbed from 273 in 1999-00 to 294.31 in 2002-03. A ratio above 300 indicates that a state is highly debt-stressed.

After falling steadily, several vital parameters of Andhra Pradesh’s fiscal health are slowly getting back to the comfortable 1990 levels.

The state’s tax-to-GDP ratio, for instance, fell from 7.9 in 1989-90 to 5.2 in 1995-96, before recovering to 7.7 in 2002-03. The non-tax to GDP ratio fell from 2.4 per cent in 1989-90 to 1.6 in 1998-99, before going up to 2.13 last year.

Between 1996-97 and 2002-03, Andhra Pradesh’s tax collection rose 2.8 times, a feat unmatched by any other southern state.

Its revenue deficit-to-revenue receipts ratio fell from 28.6 per cent to 9.7 per cent during this period, while the other states saw the ratio go up several times.

But a very high interest burden saw the fiscal deficit climbing 2.7 times. However, as per the Tenth Plan calculations, based on current growth projections, Andhra Pradesh is among the country’s least fiscally sustainable states.

The state is credited with being first off the block with major reforms. Chief Minister N Chandrababu Naidu introduced power reforms in 1998 and made the formation of water users associations mandatory for irrigation in 1997, paving the way for three hikes in water tariffs.

This, combined with extreme populism, is the reason why Naidu is acclaimed as a big reformer, but is also in deep fiscal trouble.

Splitting the state electricity board into separate distribution and generation companies with an independent regulator, for instance, was in keeping with World Bank suggestions.

Yet, the board’s losses climbed to Rs 2,300 crore in 1999-00 from a profit of Rs 79 crore in 1990-91. These losses account for a third to half of the state’s fiscal deficit.

Similarly, Naidu reduced government staff ruthlessly to curb expenses. Compared with 3.4 per cent in the pre-1996-97 decade, the growth in government staff fell to under 1 per cent. As a result, the salary component of government expenses fell from 43 per cent in 1994-95 to 35 per cent in 2000-01.

Yet, by extending the pension scheme to employees of local bodies and aided institutions, the state's pension costs jumped from 9 per cent of its expenses in 1994-95 to 30 per cent in 2000-01.

Naidu has been an aggressive public sector reformer, privatising and closing 12 each of the 128 state public sector units. The privatisation process for 79 more units has started, making it the country’s most successful disinvestment programme among states.

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AP govt had depend on over draft from RBI to pay employee salaries. Not onbe time several times.

There was huge revenue deficit.

CBN has screwed up the AP economy.

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