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     True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1299 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
ante gippudu PS3 konala, j/k thanks for your suggestions, i will have to think seriously and decide | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 84 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33 Rating: N/A |
The price looks right on OneCall which is a reputed etailer. I have the Sony SR12 and I paid about $1200 few months ago. Back to basics. DVD-video is standard definition, so HD can not be copied. The current DVD players can not play HD video. Period. What you can do is, author a bluray with HD footage using the authoring tools and burn it on a regular DVD-R. Then you should be able to play on bluray player. In future, you can buy a bluray burner and get some BD-R media and make real bluray discs. Most of the time, I connect the camcorder to PS3 using USB and directly play the footage in HD. The beauty of PS3 is to play AVCHD video directly even if it not in a bluray file structure. This way, I can always watch the recording as soon as I am home, without losing the quality. Once in few months, I collect all the footage and make few discs. | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1295 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
cant we copy the hd file onto dvd? you said you bought Sony right? http://www.onecall.com/ProductSearch.aspx?N=150+1482 i was browing this, i buy lot of stuff from them, reason i get credits to this site for playing poker on pokerstars, they have sony , do you think the price is right | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 83 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33 Rating: N/A |
Stop by a store and get your hands-on a HDD AVCHD camcorder to get a feel of it. Play with some controls and features. As the editing goes, the supplied NLE should be good enough for starters. If you want to master some professional looking discs then you need to look elsewhere. Here are the major tasks at editing: Copying the files to pc and removing the unwanted. In the NLE, create a project and add the files in the right order. Trim (you actually set the marks) the individual files if need be. Finally preview to verify. If the source is HD (1080i/p) and you are going to generate a HD footage, then the NLE simply tailors all the files together, trimming the required and producing one big HD file. There is no re-encoding here. You will use an authoring tool (supplied) to create bluray disc. A laptop can do this kind of job. Instead, if you want to output SD file (480p)then the NLE has to re-encode each file and stitch them together. This is a CPU-intensive process and need a potent computer. A dual/quad-core desktop is recommended. This SD file then can be used to create a DVD with authoring tool. | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8854 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
Sony waadu software isthaadu... its more than enough. After a long time... monna install chesa... it is worth for the operations we do. So ippati varaku Sony Brand, HDD ki decide ayyamu.... now selection is easy :-) You must be the change you wish to see in the world  | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1289 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
thanks mama, i think HDD is the way the everybody is moving to but i havent seen lot of them yet so i wanted to know if its good before i pull the trigger, torrents is easy but i was wondering abt the software which came with the camera and are you comfortable with the AVHCD method, does it need lot of time to edit and burn the dvd, can we do it on laptop or do we need more powerful comp | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33 Rating: N/A |
mari, eda vadithe aada kelli torrentlu download jeste gatlane untadi. | ||
| Rebel Side Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 2547 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.73.164 Rating: N/A |
anduke kanpinchindalla ala nokkakudadu  | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 9546 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254 Rating: N/A |
 Entha bhayam tammud neeki.. monna itlane nero kosam choostunde.. torrents lo undi ani nokkeshna.. donga sachhinodu.. aa torrent file lo malware undi.. system boggu.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 81 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33 Rating: N/A |
motham discussion chadivi malli adhe question aa? All this miniDV vs HDD argument is for standard def. cameras only. Like I said before, if you want high-def camera, you pretty much have to go with HDD-based camcorder, because the manufacturers think that's the future. You will get some NLE software with camera, but it may not be adequate. You have to purchase them otherwise. Don't quote me. There are many ways to acquire the software on internet, if you know where ***cough*** t0rr3nts ***cough*** to look for. | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1288 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
Simba, NLE software do they come with the camcorder or do you need to buy one | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1287 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
Rao garu and Simba thanks for suggestions i think HDD looks good with AVHCD but if you think minidv is easy and better i will go with them Simba can you give me pro and cons of HDD over MiniDv | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8847 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
I will leave it to T_I. True_Indian brother.. soosavu kadha maa discussions.... ippudu nuvvu seppu... do you want to go with MiniDV tape based or HDD based? Thondaraga decide seyyi... asalu ee roju hectic schedule undi... we can get to next level :-) You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 80 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33 Rating: N/A |
So, you manage to overwrite the recordings such a way that you don't need editing later :-) In HDD world, there is no concept of overwriting, you just delete the file you don't need.
Yes, HDD footage is compressed. BTW, what do you do with the uncompressed footage off the tape? If you have to make a disc (DVD), then the footage is compressed again. Even if you watch from the camcorder->tv using s-video, it does not output full resolution. Only way to watch uncompressed is, copy the footage to PC and play directly. Anyways, if you need high definition (AVCHD) camcorder, there are not many choices for tape-based systems. | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8843 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
All I'm referring was if I wanted to overwrite partially then its easy on MiniDV rather than on HDD. HDD lo compressed file kadha... and you will lose some quality (of course not to a visible level on TV) kadha. You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 79 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33 Rating: N/A |
Editing on PC is time consuming but not with current crop of computers. So, for mini-dv, do you do any kind of editing? If so, are you not going to perform that on PC? I am kind of missing your point here. | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8835 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
One... PC meeda edit ante its time consuming. Second partial content in between a start and pause cheyyali ante... you have to depend on PC... I know ilanti situation chaala chaala thakkuva.... but for some reason naaku miniDV meeda unna opinion... hard drive meeda ledhu. MiniDV lo you can export to highest quality (AVI)... ade Hard drive ante.... already compressed kadha (MPEG). You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 78 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33 Rating: N/A |
Why is that. let say, I go for an event and record the footage in 50 files of various sizes. I come home, transfer 50 files to PC and delete these files off the camera. You can reuse the hard disk space again. I was talking about deleting the unnecessary files from the footage transferred on to PC at the time of editing. | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8833 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
This is the only reason I'm still hesitating to suggest hard drive based. Ade MiniDV based ante.... easy to overwrite. You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 77 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33 Rating: N/A |
I second that.
If you want 1080i/p high def. recording, you will mostly pick the Hard drive based camcorder. For standard def., you can pick dvd/tape based cameras. One more thing. Within high definition, there are two options. HDV: This is old and matured technology based on mpeg-2. The compression is not efficient, so still uses tapes to record. Difficult to edit the footage. Ex: Canon HV30 AVCHD: This is the new technology where everyone is moving to. It uses AVC compression which is much efficient based on mpg-4. Each time you hit record and pause, the footage is stored as a file. You can transfer the all these files to computer and delete the files you don't like. You can use NLE (non-linear editors) like Pinnacle Studio, Ulead Visual Studio to edit individual files, order them and create a disk (DVD/Bluray disk). Ex: Canon HF11/HF10, Sony SR11/12. | ||
| Rowdyalludu Hero Username: Rowdyalludu Post Number: 17831 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 70.91.52.110 Rating: N/A |
annai nuvvu edi decide ayithe adhi rendu konesi okati naaku ship chesey chepthanu.. | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8815 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
As for Camcorder... naa personal opinion lo Sony better visual treat brother. And for recording media.. there are 3 varities now.... DVD Disk, Hard Drive and Mini DV. Industry standard is Mini DV. Hard Drive models lo.... each record and pause/stop is stored as a physical file. Dheenini edit/correct cheyaali ante you either delete that entire clip (non stop ga entha ekkuva record setta anta disadvantage) or edit using software after importing it to your computer. DVD Disks ante... already indulo compressed mode lo convert ayipoddi video content.... so you are already losing the quality of the video. I will continue the discussion tomorrow brother. You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| Stud Junior Artist Username: Stud Post Number: 224 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 75.73.148.101 Rating: N/A |
canon rocks.... Quantum Kurrod:"Annaya dance ki nenu choreography cheyyaledhu....kalam" | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1286 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
Thanks i was incling towards canon but let me rethink again | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1285 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
Rao Garu, DSLR lo manam canon fan but camcorders lo no preference, sleek models are prefered ones | ||
| Simba Junior Artist Username: Simba Post Number: 76 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.228.70.131 Rating: N/A |
I answered someone with same question a month or so ago. So, just pasting the same text here if it is useful to you. ============================================================ ============== The current breed of HD camcorders (AVCHD) are: 1. Panasonic SD9/HS9. Pros: Cheap $600 to $900 (SD9 with 60GB hard drive). 3 ccd makes the colors look saturated and full. Support SD/SDHC cards (cheap) and 5.1 surround sound. Cons: The size of sensor is 1/6" which is not good in low light. The placement of ports (mini-HDMI) under the battery and location of 5-way control switch is not intuitive. No viewfinder or shoe for external mic. The AVCHD footage from panasonic models is not compatible with all the authoring software. 2. Canon VIXIA HF100/HF10 Pros: Moderate price $700-$1000 (HF10 with 16GB built-in storage). 1/3" CMOS sensor is very nice in low light. Support SD/SDHC cards (cheap). Cons: Supports 2 channel audio (Stereo) only. No shoe viewfind or accessory shoe. Not many manual controls available. 3. Sony SR11/SR12 Pros: $1200-1400 (with 60GB/120GB hard drive). 1/3" CMOS sensor is very nice in low light. Large (4") LCD screen and viewfinder, accessory shoe available. Cons: Expensive. Supports Memory Stick pro cards which are expensive compared to SD cards. I did research for a month and finally went for Sony SR12. Remember, these AVCHD footages are huge files and you need a potent computer to edit title, author DVD/Bluray disks. Let me know if you need any details. ============================================================ ============== | ||
| Movie_fan Junior Artist Username: Movie_fan Post Number: 976 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 76.193.118.111 Rating: N/A |
Rao garu  Eto vellipoyindi Manasu | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8814 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
T_I brother, Camcorders lo kooda mana Telugu Cinema field lo unnattu rendu groups untayi. Chiru group okati ayite.... inkoti Bala group annattu. Ee groupism.... DSLR la lo kooda untadi... Bala fans ki Chiru cinema lu naccav... alane... Chiru fans ki Bala cinema lu nacchav. Camcorders lo Sony and Panasonic compete with each other. DLSRs lo Canon and Nikon compete with each other. Both brands have some PROs and some CONs. Kontha mandi ki brand inclination untadi.... intha sodhi endhuku ante... neeku kooda attanti brand inclination emanna unda? Unte... which brand do you like... it makes my simpler to filter and suggest one for you. Next criteria.... consumer models sleek and handy untaayi... konni banda ga naatu ga untaayi... do you have any preference to the size? You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8806 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
Ippude kaastha pani lo break doriki... rendu moodu posts esaanu brother... I'm about to leave shortly... neeku thappakunda details istha either as an email of in this page. I promise! Ee roju work lo veera kummudu... morning phone attukunte... correct ga lunch ki oka break theesukunna... malli lunch tharuvaatha calll ekkithe... just few min back break adindhi. Ila postpone settunnanduku emi anukoku. Nuvvu feel ayyi... nannu feel seyyamaaka.  You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1284 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
bump for rao garu | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1282 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
tks | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8796 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
Sure... repu detailed ga post settanu le brother... I'm about to hit the sack in few min. You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1280 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
rao garu anta ledu kani manchidi suggest cheyandi latest features unnayi | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8795 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
Naaku aayana background teldu... nannu oggeyyandi.  You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| Jalsa Junior Artist Username: Jalsa Post Number: 871 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.71.129.36 Rating: N/A |
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| Man_of_masses Junior Artist Username: Man_of_masses Post Number: 852 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.0.0.78 Rating: N/A |
T_I mamane budget adugutunnavaa | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1277 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
professional kadu, intloki budget no bar | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Side Hero Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 8791 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.231.247 Rating: N/A |
Nee budget entha brother? Ippudu detailed ga post seyyalenu gaani... repu set seddari.... ippudu comedy of India nadustunnadi. But let me know your budget and usage purpose. Professional level ante naa valla kaadhu... I can suggest for day to day consumer usage. You must be the change you wish to see in the world | ||
| True_indian Comedian Username: True_indian Post Number: 1276 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: |
best camcorder kavali HD 1080 P manchi latest features unnadi |
