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     Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7871 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
Yupp....u have to give them space ...leave them alone to grive and finish the ordeal as soon as possible.... | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1021 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.14 Rating: N/A |
El, totally agree ..pointless and additional trauma for the lady  we did not let them do all that stuff for my mother-in-law..thankfully had enough progressive elders in the family to support us ...aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Mvssr75 Junior Artist Username: Mvssr75 Post Number: 191 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 12.10.219.36 Rating: N/A |
They are not traditions. They are outdated sadistic practices , still in use in some places. } | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1020 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.14 Rating: N/A |
Cinejeevi, Mee initial post chudaledu Sorry to hear about the rough time you had especially the disillusionment with "relatives"-that is very tough to take aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7865 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
mana dhantlo konni traditiona ardham kavu... nenu desam la unnappudu oka death soosa...mogudu futt... aunty ki paafam they were doing all those things..... I mean unna torture inkaaa rituals anedhi pointless.... oka cheera esi...then one by one go inside and look at her pathetic stage... hemto maaya....endhuku chesthunnar idhi ani adigithey cheyyakapothey bad omen annar...suckssssssssssss | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 108 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 65.244.125.146 Rating: N/A |
its been now 15 yrs and i can still recollect every moment of that painful 36hrs from 10AM till next evening 10PM. The funny part was while going to Vja from Hyd in the afternoon i encountered a drunkard sitting next to my seat and was pestering thru whole jouney asking me drink, enjoy how life should be and how we should njoy bla bla bla. neither could i cry loud nor could i shout at him in the packed bus thus garnering sympathy from everyone in the bus. that was tough 6 hrs out of those 36 hrs | ||
| Mvssr75 Junior Artist Username: Mvssr75 Post Number: 189 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 12.10.219.36 Rating: N/A |
GOD HELPED YOU TO AVERT THE CRISIS. These are real testing times in ones life. Its a brave effort. | ||
| Kkd Side Hero Username: Kkd Post Number: 6914 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
sorry to hear abt your loss....looks like you handled it pretty well. | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 107 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 65.244.125.146 Rating: N/A |
there was no shortage. there was no money at all that time.. later an unexpected person took me to a persons and told that other guy "give him as much as he wants. he will pay at his leasure. if not i will". and money was pouring since then once people came to know that i am getting help from someone big. Once i had the money in hand after 18 hrs then everyone was as usual.. until then they were pretending as if they had some serious business to deal with while having tea, tiffins at my house. | ||
| Mvssr75 Junior Artist Username: Mvssr75 Post Number: 186 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 12.10.219.36 Rating: N/A |
Cinejeevi Its a Pity to be in that helpless conditions. How did the money matters were settled later as there was a shortage ?} | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1019 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.18 Rating: N/A |
EL, If you have to read one ayn rand book, read fountainhead, then if you want more you can read atlas shrugged  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 357 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.185 Rating: N/A |
length ekkuva mama.. i kinda lost patience at the end. Not as good as Fountainhead. | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 356 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.186 Rating: N/A |
Ade kada mama.. RGV media venta parigethuthad..RGV movies kante RGV interviews ye popular.. exact opposite of those characters | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1018 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.13 Rating: N/A |
Mr.Hyd.. LOL ... but you know what I wonder the same about my son, he's almost 13 and he just started reading Fountainhead - interesting discussions with him on what he makes of Roark and Keating i have a feeling he's reading her thoughts too Rajusk, we'll continue this disc some other time aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7854 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
is it good? | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7853 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
come on mama....Michale in god father is no nonsense dude....never talks for effect...where as varma word speaks loud than his actions.... Iam only talking about how Pacino confesses to the father in vatican about him murdering his bro....and also all the sins he did while trying to hold onto his empire.... just a strong character breaking downn and crying.... Like varma did....dats alll.... | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 80 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
If you check his interviews, he struggles a bit to speak normal english. But if you look at his blog, it is very polished. Coming to John Galt - He tries to be or pretends to be Howard Roark or John Galt. May be that's the reason he talks like that with media and people. Howard/John don't care about what people think about them / doesn't follow proven success path if they don't like it / they just go by their passion etc. I am going to Vote for Chiru... | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 354 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.179 Rating: N/A |
Ayn rand novel lo character bedar. Atlas shrugged novel peru. | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 353 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.179 Rating: N/A |
Isnt he always been like that. Repeated ga interviews lo thana College life lo gangs gurinchi cheppukotam.polic station lo unna ani cheppukotam.Mushy Mushy cinemal ni ridicule cheyatam.. he tries every bit to portray himself as hard and rude guy.. thnau iche anni interviews lo oka pattern untundi .. first rudeness next confession and then redemption. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7851 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
thammudu evadeedu???enti katha.... | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 352 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.185 Rating: N/A |
Ayn Rand novels lo Heroes ki soceity and soceity lo unde mediocreness obstacle ayithe RGV ki RGV ye pedda enemy. he is not John galt.. Not at all. he thinks toomuch about himself. | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 106 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 65.244.125.146 Rating: N/A |
When i heard the news of my dad's death over phone from my aunt in Hyd i was not collapsed but was thinking how to do the next things (being traditional and middile class can't even skip those) as i was not having any money in my pocket and was not that old to handle nor too young to say someone else will take care. It all depends on the situations u were in such circumstances. The dead body was supposed to come from Madras to Vja and I am supposed to pay 10K or so by then. To my agony none of my relatives, friends and so called well wishers supported me financially that time and the next 24 hrs were one of the worst of my life. first time i felt "ee raatri tellavarakapote chaalu". RGV level lo kaakapoina maa chinna bro (20 that time)handled the situation by not telling my mom until evening or just before i arrived. | ||
| Kkd Side Hero Username: Kkd Post Number: 6907 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
Cannot agree more..that is what i mentined in my first post....he is not the same that he looks.... Gayam lo aa scene extraordinary..Gummadi jeevinchad..andhulo 50% kooda sarkar lo character theesukuraleka poyaad. | ||
| Ipc302 Comedian Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 1210 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.21 Rating: N/A |
RGv always underplays human emotions in his movies...if you look at the scene in GAAYAM where Jagapathi babu first learns about the death of his brother or for the matter when JB talks about when to take revenge with banerjee, its not in the regular format .... in other movies characters act as if they are possessed | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7849 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
Didnt read the whole thing but seems like Age is catching up with RGV.... he is like pacino in god father 3 now....in a redemption and confession mode..  | ||
| Mrhyderabad Junior Artist Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 79 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.118 Rating: N/A |
monna eppudo RGV blog lo oka rendu questions post chesa... he replied to them today... http://rgvarma.spaces.live.com/default.aspx 4. When you are not good at English, how can you understand Ayan Rand's work? Ans: I read her thoughts, not her vocabulary. 5. Who is John Galt? Ans: Certain aspects of me. I am going to Vote for Chiru... | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 351 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.185 Rating: N/A |
Anand. Agree with you there.. But sometimes He does gets the best out of his Chars in loaded scenes. I think inside RGV is a very sensitve but on the outer he puts up a blunt dodgy front. Gaayam lo Opening Scene lo Gummadi edchukunta jagapath babu ki cheppatam thana duaghter gurinchi. Rangeela lo Amir and pakiya(his buddy).. konni unnayi tru side of RGV ni chupinchevi.. ofcourse he ridiculed those scenes later just to prove he is stronger than that.. thats different side of his. | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 2808 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
Anand Garu, I already said in the thread somewhere that I empathize with him..not that I know him personally.. but me being a more stoic person..mostly end up analyzing the practical (next step to be taken) aspect of any incident(negative one) in my life..and always working on the back up plan..than being emotional and resentful later.. Of course that does not go well with the tear jerkers anukondi  | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1014 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.10 Rating: N/A |
Rajusk, Catharsis and closure are a necessity for anyone who undergoes trauma- physical or emotional... emotions feel ayyevallaki practical thinking in these situations is a defense mechanism ..like you said postponement of the emotional response ...problem is that in shutting own that response people also shutdown a part of themselves and cannot be heartwhole till they face that part or end up angry/guilty and seeing it as their own failure/flop as in this story kkd/getafix, I probably cannot explain this but I miss something in his films on the emotional front,even the romances...and I don't mean the glycerin quotient must be just me aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Kkd Side Hero Username: Kkd Post Number: 6899 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
sammaga seppav..i agree....nishabd lo kooda chala baaga vuntayi.... only problem thikkalodu...prathi idea ni immed ga film ga thiyyali ani aathram tho debbathinta vuntad.... | ||
| Siloan Side Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 4313 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 155.201.35.54 Rating: N/A |
correction..Taneesha | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 348 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.184 Rating: N/A |
As for films.. RGV sometimes just portrays soft emotions through his characters perfectly.. Sarkar Raj lo - Tanushree dutta bomb blasts lo chanipoyinappudu Amitabh collapse ayye scene .. beauty. | ||
| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 2796 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
Anand Garu, It shows the practical side of the human being... Some people are more practical less emotional..thinking of what needs to be done next...rather than thinking of what could have happened etc.. And sometimes they postpone their emotions to a later day.. | ||
| Risingstar Junior Artist Username: Risingstar Post Number: 100 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 69.139.174.224 Rating: N/A |
"Aaha" ani Jagapathi babu, Raguvaran, Jayasudha movie vachindi. andulo kuda raghuvaran death jayasudha ki theliakudadani JB act chestadu | ||
| Kkd Side Hero Username: Kkd Post Number: 6893 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
I donot think he is bad at portraying softer emotions..it is just that he doesnt want his hero to play softer emotions.... Sensitive scenes rangeela,sarkar raj climax excellent. Sarkar climax amitabh,abhi and aish in the hospital room naa bhooth.... | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1012 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.11 Rating: N/A |
A tragedy in the family has making me think a lot on these rituals - the 11 day mourning and then the congregation.. Concluded that these are more important for the survivors than the deceased...having to talk about the loss to people forces them to face the loss/grief, breakdown an vent it and not bottle it away like this Introverts have a tough time talking about grief.. Repression/denial leads to displacement of emotion and depression.. There is a lesson in there for all of you who think tough guys don't cry ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 918 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
Good read KKD bhai, yes as Anand said, i think its in his personality that he can't take grief, the time it took him to react itself shows that he is very much attached to his father. But by the way he handled the situation after his father's death to control his mothers grief should be apprecaited. | ||
| Anand_n Comedian Username: Anand_n Post Number: 1011 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.248 Rating: N/A |
KKD, everyone deals with grief in their own way... IB lo okkasari discuss chesamu...RGV is not good at portraying softer emotions in his movies ani...looks like it stems from his personality... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Sagar Side Hero Username: Sagar Post Number: 4018 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 68.98.143.108 Rating: N/A |
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| Rajusk Side Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 2787 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: |
It took him 9 years to realize that he had emotions that he suppressed (or was being stoic)...I can empathize with him.. | ||
| Mega Junior Artist Username: Mega Post Number: 466 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.252.218.5 Rating: N/A |
touching in some way | ||
| Ipc302 Comedian Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 1205 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.21 Rating: N/A |
so sad  | ||
| Tinku Junior Artist Username: Tinku Post Number: 194 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 198.133.105.244 Rating: N/A |
bottomline seppu | ||
| Siloan Side Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 4309 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 155.201.35.54 Rating: N/A |
hmm.. | ||
| Film_fan Junior Artist Username: Film_fan Post Number: 950 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
good read..... thanks for posting it...... | ||
| Kkd Side Hero Username: Kkd Post Number: 6889 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
Read it completely...I always felt he is not the same person that he looks. ======= Just felt like sharing this one personal experience of mine. It has nothing to do with films. So those of you who are not interested can get off right now. Sometime in 1994 I just returned from Chennai to Hyderabad in the morning and was supposed to catch a flight to Mumbai in the evening. I was taking a nap in the afternoon when my sister suddenly woke me up and told me my distant cousin Bujji from Bhimavaram was on the phone. (Those days there were no cell phones yet.). I wondered why she woke me up for that and she said Bujji says itâs very urgent. Curious as Bujji was not even that close to me, I went to the phone and Bujji said that Dad had a heart attack and died, and before I could say anything he asked me if I was alone. When I said ânoâ as my mom and sister were there near me, he asked me to come outside and call him from another phone. I started walking towards a STD booth at the end of the road with my brother-in-law following me. I was wondering why Bujji is being so secretive about his dad having a heart attack and dying. As I was nearing the booth it slowly started dawning upon me that he was talking about my dad. I turned around and asked my brother-in-law where my dad was and he said he went to Bhimavaram the previous day. My fear being confirmed I called up Bujji and he told me the same and asked me whether we would be coming there or should he bring the body. I told him to bring the body. I turned around and told my brother-in-law about what happened and he just sat down on the road in shock. I personally was not feeling anything as I was seriously thinking about how to break the news to my mother. I quickly made a few calls to some relatives and told them that they will get to hear it from somewhere sooner or later and asked them not to come to my house till I prepare my mother. Then in the walk back I thought of a story to tell my mother. I told her that Dad suffered some pain in the chest and I asked them to bring him to Hyderabad as there are better medical facilities here. When she got panicky I told her cheerfully that he is perfectly fine. My whole intention was to reduce the time of her crying before the body reaches and also for me to have time to plan how to make her slowly absorb the final shock. I literally went about doing a screenplay of sorts, sent some guys to the end of the road to stop any over enthusiastic relatives coming to console her and I made a friend of mine do mock phone conversations in front of my mother as if he is talking to people who are bringing my father and to say that the pain is increasing. That was my way of attempting to bring my mother slowly closer to the ultimate truth. Finally this whole exercise happened till 11in the night and I went off to sleep. So far I have not felt anything at all as I was too busy doing scenes around to cushion my mother. At around 2.am my cousin woke me up and said the body is here. I came out and saw the car on the road in which they brought the body, and thatâs when the reality first hit me. I told my cousin to take the car to his house and only bring it in the morning so that we can quickly do the funeral arrangements in the morning and spare my mother from the trauma of sitting with the body till the morning. Morning around 5.am my grandfather broke the news to my mother and by that time seeing all the activity building around I am sure she suspected it. My uncle came and told me that my father has written a will that he wants to donate his eyes and body. My relatives told me to ignore that will and just do the rites as per traditions. I said I want to do as per my fatherâs wishes, and I went in and told my mother if she will have any objection to me going as per dadâs wishes. She asked me to do whatever I thought was right even as she was crying. I called the eye institute guys and two young nurses landed up in rickshaw. I still remember them laughing, as they got out of the rickshaw, at some private joke between each other. Their cheerful laughter contrasted so macaberly against the crying sounds and the somber look of the entire atmosphere. They sent everyone out, did whatever technical procedure to take the eyes and after they left my people told me itâs time to take the body to the hospital, I went in to see my mother next to the body of my father and there was a redness around his eyes and a slit which was angled because of whatever the girls from the institute did to take out the eyes. I felt a tremendous guilt and anger against myself that I subjected my mother to see a man who she lived with for 40 years that way for the last time especially since she always used to talk about how much she loved my fatherâs eyes. That decision I have taken just in the name of fulfilling my fatherâs wishes, but I failed to foresee what the practical application of that procedure will subject my mother too. This I think is the biggest flop I made in my life. Next day I told my mother letâs not do any 7th day or 11th day kind of rituals as we should remember him from happy times and not make an exhibition seeking sympathy. I gave her a long lecture of how she should look at everything positively. The next day I heard my mother crying in her room and I got upset that my lecture didnât work. In the afternoon I heard a strange sound and when I went upstairs, I saw that it is my brother crying and thatâs the first time I ever heard him cry and was thinking to myself that this is how it sounds when he cries. Throughout this entire process I did not feel for one second any grief myself and that was nothing to do with me and my fatherâs relationship. I loved him and respected him immensely. Itâs just that I was in a state of film, for want of a better term. I went to Mumbai after a few days to meet Naseeruddin Shah as I was casting him in a certain film. As soon as he saw me he got up and said he was very sorry to hear about my mother. Somebody gave him wrong info that it is my mother, so as not to embarrass him I didnât tell him. Then he went on to talk about his mother and asking questions on how my father was taking it. The fact that I didnât stop him in the beginning itself it became even more difficult now to tell him that he got it wrong. So I went through the entire comedy. Years later somewhere in 2003 or so, I was in Pune in Nana Patekarâs house. Me, Nana, Shimit Amin and Sandeep the writer of âAb Tak Chappanâ were doing a script session. In the context of a scene for a reference I started narrating my fatherâs episode and when I came to the part of the nurses from the eye institute and its aftermath, I suddenly got choked and broke down. Nana had to hold me in his arms to control me. It took me 9 years to cry and that too for more than my father, it was for that biggest flop I made. |
