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     Rebel Side Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 2294 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.73.167 Rating: N/A |
EK tamud..nuvvu mee age group vallatone disco settava... aryans neekem anyayam chesaru valla samethalu vaddantunnav... | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Comedian Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 1942 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
Akka, Guddilo Mella, ee chettu leni chota ani.... telgulo sana saametha unnayi  Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 827 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
Maasoom - is over 2 decades old - was it 84 ?  Excellent movie and Shekhar Kapoor brings out the best in kids Salaam Bombay - again 2 decades old came out in 88-89 I think... So current crop lo comparable emi levu kada Andhon mein kaana raja vine untaru aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7088 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
I already said...I like masoom and salaam bombay(a tragedy though)...I must have seen masoom 100 times....it has songs...it has everything... | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 826 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
El, Sure the movie could have been better and more engaging but perception of quality is relative to the current crop of films ... Can you name Hindi and Telugu commercial films which you felt were more coherent and engaging... that might give a frame of reference to the comparison. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7087 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
dude wat I meant was if everyone starts oppsing then I might think something wrong with me....apardham seskoku | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7086 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
What I meant was something more appealing than tacky cartoons.... instead of completely going to DD type of cartoon mode something like characters talking to him directly would have been more engaging.... | ||
| Janak_janak_paayal_baajhe Junior Artist Username: Janak_janak_paayal_baajhe Post Number: 26 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 86.10.205.106 Rating: |
Ok now we know why you are posting crap on TZP...... I accept that your thinking is out of the box....I request everyone else to accept that Elcamino's thinking is out of the box....that will make him happy.... Now please stop posting silly and stupid rubbish stuff on a very good movie. If you want to satisfy your ego by assuming your thinking to be out of box, you are welcome to do so.....if your ego satisfies when others assume you to be a out of box thinking man, just ask others to do so......Stop posting rubbish to prove that you are different to others. | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 822 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
El, /**and from taking perspective the childs world would have been shown in a more appealing manner...like an Amelie....a fantasy world....instead that tacky cartoons were not appealing for me mama....**/ Reality check : Amelie is a girl Darsheel is a boy - I have 2 boys - they live and breathe cartoons aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 821 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
EL, /**but aamir ended up making another underdog emerging victorious story.....**/ Very true and that is the most popular vehicle for commercial cinema isn't it? Just the nature of the underdog changes... As to the arena and 100s of people - I don't believe he showed him competing against experts -just his school mates and teachers ... - aren't all school competitions like that ? The point was to show he is behind his peers in academics but better than them in art - what was so unrealistic about that ? Yeah the options you gave are good alternatives for the story but that would make it an art film and we know how many people see those If the idea is to get the message across to many , you need a commercial format and a feel good ending Like Unortho's signature says Cinema for the masses cannot be poetic Getafix, /**First half solid.. Darsheel safari mondi ga undadam and oka alternate world create chesukuni andulo undadam .. classic! Second half problem resolution chuyinchad. I'll say the movie was very well made but it did get judgemental in some places but thats ok.**/ Well said...The only grouse I had was that it showed Aamir as having dyslexia himself - like you need to have the problem to understand it... would have been better for me if Aamir had just played a special ed counselor etc... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7072 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
yes...Iam not impressed with approach taken for conflict resolution....and I explained u already which approach would have made more sense to me..... I know a kid from a distant family....kurrod masthu active undeyvadu....he was subjected to so much stress ...5'O clock wake up calls...11 O clock varaku studies......U know he became schizophrenic.....now I heard he is doing good cause their parents finally made peace with reality and let him understood its OK to get bad marks...its not end of world and it took him 4 yrs to come out of it....I hope u get wat Iam trying to convey.... I mean this type of movie doesnt do any help for them because that kid is not a painter nor he has anyother visible talents.... I know another kid wh has epilepsy....same case with him.... and from taking perspective the childs world would have been shown in a more appealing manner...like an Amelie....a fantasy world....instead that tacky cartoons were not appealing for me mama.... | ||
| True_indian Junior Artist Username: True_indian Post Number: 922 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.71.216 Rating: N/A |
for me its was the best movie in recent yrs, better than lot of overhyper and crap movies, i felt my money was well spent | ||
| Arjun Junior Artist Username: Arjun Post Number: 524 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
many many people thought it's a great movie | ||
| Arjun Junior Artist Username: Arjun Post Number: 522 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: |
u didnot get the point may be because u were sleeping... kid always liked painting and he won a prize in painting linking rat race with climax is insane | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 188 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.183 Rating: N/A |
Mama , The movie is great because Amir just did what you said .. treated simple things effectively. Kid is 7 yrs of age. He doesnt know that he has problem even he does he cannot put it into words , even if he does mom and dad are so busy they just dont have time. He thinks that nobody understands him. He is adamant. Oka scene untundi and probably you might remember it too neighbouring aunty ochesi complain chesthundi Darsheel intlo tha nka Kid ni kottadu ani .. Darsheel father ochesi kottesthadu and next thing the kids does , he runs upstairs and on the way he kicks a flower pot and meda piki velli okkade edusthadu...and that scene itself is classic! You might be knowing any story/screenplay lo premise- conflict and resultion format follwo avuhtar ani.. same approach Amir theesukunadu. First half lo problem and second half lo resolution and resolution is not how the boy achieved success it is about how the boy overcomes his own difficulty and the message that audience will take home is dyslexia anedhi solve chesukogalige problem ani. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7066 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
Mama....he is just a freaking Kid..... U dont show him in a arena of 100s of people with a drawing competition and all dat crap.... I would have been happy if aamir builds some confidence in darsheel regarding di slexia....make their parents realize about the same....and the then the father realizing his mistakes and getting close to his son day by day with the same regular stuff he used to hate him prior to with some minor surprises thrown at....regular things that happen in household....like darsheels dad bed ridden with fever...darsheel longing for him just like how kids do....simple things mama...dats where a great movie and a average movie seperate... AAmir chosen a popular format....with that competition and victory and adulation.... dat would be a great movie for me....but aamir ended up making another underdog emerging victorious story..... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7065 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
thanks mama...u always save me from thinking that Iam the only one thinking out of box...  | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 185 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.184 Rating: N/A |
message oriented anatle nenu.. pillodi father ki Amir khan edo lecturing chesthad madhyalo.. alanti scenes waste vati gurinchi judgemental ayyadu ani anutunna. The last think the kid role needs is "Sympathy" and by portraying father that way did just that. Father drushtilonchi chusthe scenario different ga untundi.. koduku chadvuradhu allari ekkuva emayipothado peddodemo punter ani anxious ayipoyundochu ..ivanni chupisthe cinema father gurinchi avuddi kaani kid gurinchi kaadu so thats ok but aa lecturing scene konchem ekkuve undhi. | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 927 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.170 Rating: |
Shakeela movies kuda anthema full ga softporn chuyinchi.. last lo ilaantivi cheyakuadhu antu oka judgement voice over untundhi.. same B gopal movies..full ga sumo lu egiri chivaralo hero andarni champesi Asoka chakravarthy la endhing. Agreed, a well made movie but not extra odrinary one. | ||
| Sagar Side Hero Username: Sagar Post Number: 3546 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 68.98.143.108 Rating: N/A |
ee madya kaalam lo nenu choosina best movie... last ki kurrodiki prize ivvataaniki .. pilustaaru choodu... appudu aa pillodu... vacchi Amir ni hathukuntaadu.. prize daggaraku vellakunda... manishanna vaadiki evadikanna kallaloo neelu tiragalsindhe.. paaTalu kooda baagunaayi... chaala baaga teesadu..pillodu kooda chaala baaga act chesaadu... ee madya kaalam lo.. the best movie... | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 184 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.183 Rating: N/A |
Vere ending emi ivvagaldu mama. Given the story the ending was most apt.Kakapothe father role ni maree ekkuva stretch chesesadu Darsheel safari role ki sympathy generate cheyataniki adi okkkate naaku nachale. First half solid.. Darsheel safari mondi ga undadam and oka alternate world create chesukuni andulo undadam .. classic! Second half problem resolution chuyinchad. I'll say the movie was very well made but it did get judgemental in some places but thats ok. | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 924 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.170 Rating: |
This is the gist of thread.LAgaan lanti comercial movies theese aamirkhan ni inthakante ekkuva expect cheyalemu.daaniki malli Extraordinary cinema antu build up.aamir utterly failed to give a good endind.For me, its a mass masala movie with some intellectual treatment/taking. | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 923 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.170 Rating: N/A |
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| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 155 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.116.87 Rating: N/A |
elcaminocap --------- When U said Indian middle class thinks like dat and they cant accept the kids the way they are I thought u were compromising on the facts ---------- Yes- i said that Indian Middle class thinks like that & its a fact. I have every right to say this cos i have the first hand knowledge of it as a Medic who have seen the parents and kids in that clinical setting . What that got to do with sugarcoating to parents ??? where did that come from ?? . | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 181 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.184 Rating: N/A |
IMO , the premise of swathimuthyam is different compared to TZP. TZP is about a dyslexic kid who thinks nobody understands him not even his mother..and then comes along a teacher who not only understands him but also brings out the best in kid.. Where as Swathimuthyam is about a mentally challenegd person journey from one woman (his bamma - nirmala) to another woman (radhika). | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7049 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.77 Rating: N/A |
agree to disagree....I will stop here...people getting emotional.... nyways there is good article on gulzar in paasionforcinema.com on the eve of his birthday on aug 19... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7047 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.77 Rating: N/A |
When U said Indian middle class thinks like dat and they cant accept the kids the way they are I thought u were compromising on the facts...the fact that tha lack of acceptance is wrong... | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 819 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
Nihil, Your quote in post 26 is Quantum's not EL's El, /**well then the build up is not consistent....when u comment and show kids in a competitive world running all over time and striving to excel and again showing the kid as winner in the climax.....these are two completely contrast points.....**/ True to some extent... but the message was also to make sure that your kids run the right race according to their aptitude and not based on what the parents think is the current trend... Success is a need, a motivator.. Let me put another perspective...Swathimutyam tackeld a similar subject without the win at the end ... what did it acheive ... atmost a sympathy for mentally challenged people from the sensitive and a new epithet for the masses..."Vaadu swathimutyam type " became a euphemism for retarded... Similar story Forrest Gump is inspirational because of the success TZP was about a kid who can succeed in life despite his not meeting the standard requirements and goals for success.... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 154 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.116.87 Rating: N/A |
but u want to sugar coat facts about kids to parents. --------------- Where did i say that ?? Or is it your delusion ?? . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7044 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.77 Rating: N/A |
oh ur the same Nihil...when I saw two Ls I though u were different... interesting...U were against sugar coating history to kids....but u want to sugar coat facts about kids to parents....nice | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 153 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.116.87 Rating: N/A |
elcaminocap --------- Accha...I thought the movie was to educate and bring that enlightenment in indias middle class parents that winning and success is not everything and during this run for success kids r losing the childhood and not experiencing them how they r supposed to.....so its just another run of the mill underdog coming victorious in the end kinda story...in this case the underdog is a pitiful looking sympathy generating kid with dislexia and the image of that kid had made audience completely emotional..... ------- Spiel. Anyway - i made my point that this is one of the wonderful movies i have seen in the recent past - Direction, Acting, Story, Script everything I am outta here. . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7042 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.77 Rating: N/A |
done.... | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 180 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.186 Rating: N/A |
aa run of the mill story ki oka very misguided father(who represent typical misguided indian parent) ni villain role include cheseyyi mari superstar tho goleel aadina baalu gaade bumperstar.. khailash Kher keyka! | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7040 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.77 Rating: N/A |
Accha...I thought the movie was to educate and bring that enlightenment in indias middle class parents that winning and success is not everything and during this run for success kids r losing the childhood and not experiencing them how they r supposed to.....so its just another run of the mill underdog coming victorious in the end kinda story...in this case the underdog is a pitiful looking sympathy generating kid with dislexia and the image of that kid had made audience completely emotional..... | ||
| Nihill Junior Artist Username: Nihill Post Number: 26 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.127.127 Rating: N/A |
ELCAMINOCAP --------- That is hoe majority of humans think....we need happy endings coz we seek solace in the fact that one can acheive...that we can or not is a different story...optimism has been the corner stone of all philosophies world wide....no human thought runs on the back of the belief that chaos is the general course of evolution..it might be true...but no body proved it thus far...everyone believes that whatever we do will refine us further.....optimism is what even the most pessimistic crave for...- ----------- Sudden ga Philosophy loki track change ayindi eti ?? Optimism, Pessimism ani .. Lets stick to the ground reality ... I have the first hand knowledge of Child development disorders as a medical person and i know how the parents think .. majority of the Indian parents out rightly deny that their kids are deficient as shown in this movie .. THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT INDIA AND IT STICKS TO ITS PREMISE VERY TRUTHFULLY. Thats what i say. . | ||
| Sachin Side Hero Username: Sachin Post Number: 3052 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 68.100.138.242 Rating: N/A |
pakkana chiru political fans thread lo nee id postu..pani undi...eppudoo ee sollu disco ne...maree Paul gaarilaa ayipothunnaavu..  I HATE CASTE FANATICS | ||
| Quantummorphed Comedian Username: Quantummorphed Post Number: 1065 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 199.171.86.140 Rating: N/A |
That is hoe majority of humans think....we need happy endings coz we seek solace in the fact that one can acheive...that we can or not is a different story...optimism has been the corner stone of all philosophies world wide....no human thought runs on the back of the belief that chaos is the general course of evolution..it might be true...but no body proved it thus far...everyone believes that whatever we do will refine us further.....optimism is what even the most pessimistic crave for..... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7039 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
mama....passionofcinema vadi points anni correct anately mama...just pointed out one... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7038 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
well then the build up is not consistent....when u comment and show kids in a competitive world running all over time and striving to excel and again showing the kid as winner in the climax.....these are two completely contrast points.....Indra movie lo chiru andharini narikesi...narukkuntoo pothey chetlu kooda migalavi ani cheppinattundhi | ||
| Nihill Junior Artist Username: Nihill Post Number: 25 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.127.127 Rating: N/A |
ELCAMINOCAP ----------- Whats TZP about??? A dislexic kid making it big instead of his disability???? A kid whos real talent was not identified by their parents cause of their obession on academics and finally getting their recogntion through his achievements in paintings??? A kid not finding acceptance from their parents for his inability to score good in studies and finally their parents accepting for Wat he is??? ---------------- Thats how a typical Indian middle class family thinks .. and thats whole point of this movie ........its about INDIA not about the western construct as i said earlier where the so called enlightened folks accept the kids as they are. Thats the whole concept and conflict beautifully explored in this movie. . | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 177 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.179 Rating: N/A |
Alright.. dont wanna get too much into the premise of the story here but the article reflects an opinion of a grumpy amateur reviewer who is just trying to differ with majority to gain some attention. The writer is asking a question if the movie is classic or no and what pathetic is the writer did not add much weight to the evidence he/she presented to support his/her argument "not to call TZP a classic".. toomuch! | ||
| Nihill Junior Artist Username: Nihill Post Number: 24 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.127.127 Rating: N/A |
ELcaminocap ------ What strong shake aamir provided in the movie??? ------------ By showing to the parents that even a reticent,involuted, academically challenged kid can succeed and flourish, if he can be raised in a right nurturing environment. Thats what i mean by apparition- not the Tribal ritual, as u pronounced . . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7037 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
dude...swati muthyam...rainman...forrest gump.... in all these movies u dont have dialogues like "Children are being made into racehorses to compete against eachother" and U dont have emphais on parent characters pushing their kids around and constantly judging them and forcing them to excel..... FOrrest Gump is a classic example.... his mom always tells him he is no inferior to other FOr such parents even if forrest achieves something or not it doesnt make any difference.... Whats TZP about??? A dislexic kid making it big instead of his disability???? A kid whos real talent was not identified by their parents cause of their obession on academics and finally getting their recogntion through his achievements in paintings??? A kid not finding acceptance from their parents for his inability to score good in studies and finally their parents accepting for Wat he is??? Or like karan johar movies all of the above | ||
| Diwakaram_april1 Junior Artist Username: Diwakaram_april1 Post Number: 86 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 66.6.146.60 Rating: N/A |
very well SAID  | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7036 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
What strong shake aamir provided in the movie???one example of tribal ritual on some tree worship or something...dats it??? THe kid was not getting acceptance from his father....u clearly see the father character inclining towards his brother as he is more succesful....so I used acceptance concept there.... | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 818 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
El, The purpose of the movie was to show that people with such disabilities can succeed in life but that they need to be channeled into the proper direction ... You cannot teach a fish to run and win a race against a hare and the earlier parents recognize their child is differently abled the better they can put them in the right learning environment.... And I think the movie succeeded very well in that angle..is it technically brilliant as a piece of movie making - no - but it met the goal of reaching out to the masses and giving them an eyeopener Most Indians did not know what dyslexia is - I met a couple people who told me I had that problem but nobody understood...that's more than most commercial cinema acheives.. Unfortunately, acceptance of disability in Indian terms means giving up on them... like being told their child has a terminal disease ...so the success at the end was necessary to keep parents optimistic on their child's future aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Quantummorphed Comedian Username: Quantummorphed Post Number: 1062 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 199.171.86.140 Rating: N/A |
Super post nihil....U have a faculty of uninfluenced and unbiased thought...hats off...the first of ur kind that I have seen on this DB | ||
| Getafix Junior Artist Username: Getafix Post Number: 175 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.185 Rating: N/A |
Elca bedar.. ide PFC site lo Amol Gupte gurinchi aakasam lo ekkinchesaru when TZp was released and there was hungama how Amir Khan hijacked the film anesi.. PFC revered GOD Avinach kashyap himself wrote that TZP is all about darsheel safari role and a honest attempt putting aside the controversies adi idhi ani.. and final ga PFC has some good writers but majority of them self centered jingoistic bunch.. I dont take them seriously. | ||
| Nihill Junior Artist Username: Nihill Post Number: 23 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.127.127 Rating: N/A |
escapist fare with a sophisticated touch -------------- I don't understand what u mean by escapism ? Do u mean to say that the movie should be ended with sombre depression with the kid should be permanenly shunned to his own devices ?? Even if you observe similar characters - Dyslexics, Autistic characters of famous movies. 1..Swatimutyam - Where Kamal hasan character develop fully and has a fruitful family even with his disablity 2..Forrest Gump- The Autistic Kid reached heights with whatever he wants... First as a Footballer,Army, TT champion, Business magnate, Long distance runner ......he ends as a super successful person 3..Rain Man- Dustin Hoffman portrays an Asperger syndrome where in he excells in Mathematics. If all these movies are escapist fares where they end as the reality permits- you r right - TZP is also one of them. . . | ||
| Nihill Junior Artist Username: Nihill Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.127.127 Rating: N/A |
Elcaminocapastrino ---------- I would have been very happy if their parents accepted that kid for what he is without winning anything or proving anything... -------------------- You are missing the whole point or should i say theres a different angle. The parents completely failed to notice that their kid is a differently abled boy - This was very well established when Amir went to thier house and tried to explain to the parents and the father goes bonkers and dismiss whatever Amir say. And regarding your postualte that Parents should accept their kid as he is - Any person needs an apparition or a strong shake to realise the gravitas and it was provided by Amir in this movie. and another point - why do u want to project a western construct like acceptance ?? . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7034 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
den its an escapist fare with a sophisticated touch....also there is no need for it to be dark and depressing with a proper ending....when u make a movie on the ill effects of drinking alcohol and in the end when u show the lead character sipping champagne it doesnt make sense... but I gree with one point mentioned in the blog...its a kid movie and not kid would want to see it again and again....except dat teachers r shown as villains theres nothing in the movie which kids will like.... | ||
| Hyderabadi10 Junior Artist Username: Hyderabadi10 Post Number: 451 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.131 Rating: N/A |
movies like these need a populist ending mama...how many ppl knew abt dyslexia before this movie...and if it were to be dark or depressing like u said....how many people would have actually seen it....it's a very decent commercial movie which manges to pack in a message as well... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7032 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
Dharkaar dude... If [ossible watch this movie...Its called "Dead Poets Society" Robin williams dhi....too much untaadhi about school system | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7031 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
mama ...this is not a biopic on a movie of a succesful dislexic.... I would have been very happy if their parents accepted that kid for what he is without winning anything or proving anything... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7030 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
Mama Rockford was a good movie Masoon captured that child world excellently.... there were few more movies too I cannot think off right now... | ||
| Nihill Junior Artist Username: Nihill Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.127.127 Rating: N/A |
a very convenient end. ------------- What does he mean by convenience ?? would appreciate a little elaboration Why in the world, all the teachers shown as caricatures, except one Mr. Cool called Nikumbh sir? ----------------- Becos its the way it is .....called Reality . I guess this critic is flying in his dreams where everybody is OR should be Kool Are all boarding schools torture chambers where students are sent to punish them for their misbehaviour? --------------------- Nothing but overstretch. The story and direction is very true and realitic in its depiction of the Indian school system, cos i can say with the first hand knowledge. . | ||
| Dhaarkaar Comedian Username: Dhaarkaar Post Number: 1899 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 198.204.133.208 Rating: N/A |
Elca mama..the main difference betweeen abroad and India films innocence is the way kids grown up....so same innocence we cannot see in Indian kids... | ||
| Dhaarkaar Comedian Username: Dhaarkaar Post Number: 1898 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 198.204.133.208 Rating: N/A |
my view, idhi koncham kastam....TZP deals with a audience state of mind..but Blue umbrella is not..Audience gets connected to both of them..but TZP is more novel and classy..whereas Blue umbrella is funny, sometimes raw.... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7027 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: |
yupp....I slept in the movie.....the very point of the movie is not to pit kids against eachother as race horses and in the final the kid gets first prize...aamir might be smoking something when he did that.... recently I watched a movie called "Millions"....Trainspotting director dhi.... masthu capture chesady kids innocence ni....its terrific.... | ||
| Nihill Junior Artist Username: Nihill Post Number: 20 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.127.127 Rating: N/A |
It is one of the best movies i have seen, Gem of a movie among all the Masala junk spewed by Bollywood. Wonderfully explored a Dyslexic kid with learning difficluties in a typical Indian setting both the family and the school It deserves all the hype . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7026 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
First TZP, it has a wafer thin plot, a very convenient end to an issue made out to be bigger than what it is in real life. Most dyslexia kids do alright in life, given the examples the movie itself quotes- Tom Cruise. Abhishek Bachchan. The later, I might guess might have been wrongly detected as dyslexic. I hazard the guess that he has some other mental problem that still continues and has gone worse after he got married to a Aishwarya.  | ||
| Killer225 Junior Artist Username: Killer225 Post Number: 228 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 195.10.3.194 Rating: N/A |
I agree... It was just an OK film for me. After watching iranian films like, children of heaven, where is my frieds home and many other films with kids playing main roles, TZP doesnt even come close to a good film. I prefer Blue umbrella over TZP. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7024 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
Anyway coming back to TZP, it was heavily promoted by Amir Khan, including his attacks on âBlack, another overhyped, totally nonsensical, height or arrogance (read Mr. Bachchan and SLB gush about the movie hundreds of time, itâs obnoxious) bad movie. All the controversy around Amol Gupte helped generate hype around the movie. Added to that the fact that the self styled genious himself was directing the movie, everybody just exclaimed âClassicâ. May I dare say today, it was a very average film worth may be one watch, terribly slow in some parts, a very convenient end. Why in the world, all the teachers shown as caricatures, except one Mr. Cool called Nikumbh sir? Are all boarding schools torture chambers where students are sent to punish them for their misbehaviour? I do admit some of the things shown were nice and smart. For example, the way child psychology was presented and the insight given into Darsheelâs mind were nice. But after few reels, you realize they were overdone and over used, the drawings in particular. And the kid actors were well handled, particulary Darsheel. But this is not the first time somebody has done it in Bollywood. Please donât forget Jugal Hansraj in Masoom or Kunal Khemu and others in Hum Hain Rahi Pyar ke. Another reason, I feel cheated was because it was recommended as a must watch for kids and parents alike. By any measure, itâs not a movie for kids. My 8 year old was yawning half way through the movie. It was too slow and unfunny for kids. For parents, other than that one scene where Amir lectures to the parents, I am not sure what else was there. And before you all TZP fans out there, get agitated at me, please, I have conceded that it was well presented and better than run of the mill. I would also give you that the technical aspects were good. It was also more watchable than Black which was insufferable. But please donât insult classics by calling it a classic. I would consider Amir Khan smart and business savvy for marketing the movie and making it a big commercial success. But creative genious, please No! | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 7023 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: |
http://passionforcinema.com/tzp-jtyjn-overhyped-yesgreat-mov ies-no/ baaga raasadu......} |
