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Getafix
Junior Artist Username: Getafix
Post Number: 112 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.242.14.179
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:54 pm: |
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80s lo muslim roles were a big part of hindi cinema. Amitabh cinemallo compulsory oka muslim char undedi.. coolie,naseeb,mard,amar akbar anthony etc... post 90s lo thaggindhi aa trend |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 6698 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:51 pm: |
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Ipc302:title ni SALIM ani fix chesindu...a new ers dawns in telugu Film industry
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Ipc302
Junior Artist Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 918 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.206.87.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:30 pm: |
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i think ee vishyam lo YVS oka meruparvatham title ni SALIM ani fix chesindu...a new ers dawns in telugu Film industry |
   
Jodhaa
Side Hero Username: Jodhaa
Post Number: 4848 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.11.223.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:28 pm: |
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Telugu_times:occhen Adigina V.P gaadiki strike kaaledha? train lo sacchi poyina 58 Hindus lo, future India president unnaademo ani?
 No one can make you feel inferior without your permission, remember they are no better |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 6692 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:24 pm: |
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Rajusk:egg meeda ekalu peeking....too much sensational media ayyipoyyindi ivvala repu...arhatha unnodu lenodu andaru Journalist aithe gitlane untadi mari..
Ipc302:i think indian films dont necessarily tackle the societal problems...its all candy floss romances that we the audience has to bear with...i dont think muslims have been under represented what about those 70-80s movies where we had hindu-muslim bhai-bhai a la manmohan desai style ....we just had them stereotyped and frankly has hindi fim industry represented any region properly...then what about south indian characters or eastern indian characters all we have now is the bombardment with punjabi-gujju uncles and aunties characters bottomline stop complaining
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Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 6691 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:23 pm: |
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Ipc302:hard to make movies without song/dance that revolve around Hindu customs/festivals Only YRF will be out of business, and we can all be happy for that. The rest of them can continue making movies.
mama...i laughed outloud when i read this....its really funny |
   
Telugu_times
Side Hero Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 6681 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:23 pm: |
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After the Gujarat riots, some interviewer actually asked Modi what would have happened if we had lost a talent like Irfan Khan (cricketer) to the riots because he was from a poor muslim family >>>> kocchen Adigina V.P gaadiki strike kaaledha? train lo sacchi poyina 58 Hindus lo, future India president unnaademo ani? Are people afraid that they will hurt muslim sentiments to show muslim characters drinking, clubbing and wooing women? Itâ??s not like we have sex in our movies so I donâ??t get it. We know what happened to Rushdie and Taslima. If this is the case, it is odious and people need to wrangle power back. The Aamirs and Shah Rukhs of the world that wield so much power and influence need to act >> Gindhukay vaalla perlu seyyaru, evado U.P lo, VP mullaa gaadu fatwa isthad, pani paata leka |
   
Ipc302
Junior Artist Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 916 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.206.87.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:21 pm: |
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It�s hard to make movies without song/dance that revolve around Hindu customs/festivals Only YRF will be out of business, and we can all be happy for that. The rest of them can continue making movies. idi katti |
   
Ipc302
Junior Artist Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 915 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.206.87.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:20 pm: |
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i think indian films dont necessarily tackle the societal problems...its all candy floss romances that we the audience has to bear with...i dont think muslims have been under represented what about those 70-80s movies where we had hindu-muslim bhai-bhai a la manmohan desai style ....we just had them stereotyped and frankly has hindi fim industry represented any region properly...then what about south indian characters or eastern indian characters all we have now is the bombardment with punjabi-gujju uncles and aunties characters bottomline stop complaining |
   
Rajusk
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Post Number: 2227 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:20 pm: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:except gangster movies and rarely movies like chak de india..dhoom..dor...we r no seeing them in mainstream movies in regular characters... reasons baa raasadu...
} egg meeda ekalu peeking....too much sensational media ayyipoyyindi ivvala repu...arhatha unnodu lenodu andaru Journalist aithe gitlane untadi mari.. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 6690 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:18 pm: |
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Ipc302:The exec went on to explain that it is not that Hollywood has a bias against blacks, but they donâ??t know who to cast in the female lead. If they cast a black actress against Will Smith or Denzel, then it becomes a black film that white audiences wonâ??t go to. If they cast a white actress, the masses will be irked and go on a lynching spree. The solution? Eva Langoria. Latinas are going to have so much work.
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Ipc302
Junior Artist Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 914 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.206.87.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:14 pm: |
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Aamir Khan, Imran Khan, Abbas Tyrewala, Mansoor Khan. They are the above-the-line talent associated with the recent smash Jaane Tu, and there were quite a few “technicians” with similar sounding names. What they have in common is that they are culturally muslim as indicated by their names. I don’t know what their personal religious practices are and it doesn’t concern me. or YOU. Jaane Tu is the archetypal Bollywood film, a youthful romance musical with some comedy, melodrama, and action thrown in. Most of our matinee idols have made their debuts with such films. They all have one more commonality. The protagonists are never muslim characters. This actually also extends to other genres such as thrillers, mindless comedies, mindful comedies and David Dhawan films. The only genre film that regularly portrays muslim characters is the gangster film. I should be a little more specific. I am talking about characters where them being muslim is not a plot point or theme. I can count the examples from recent times on one hand. Jimmy Shergill character in Munnabhai, Uday Chopra in the Dhooms, the woman in Taare Zameen Par, Dor and Iqbal. I am going to examine what the possible reasons could be, including strawmen and see which are valid. Muslims are a minority making up only 10-15% of the population True. One may argue that Madhya Pradesh with a population contribution of nearly a tenth has suffered a greater injustice since the only character ever to grace the screen is in Sholay. I for one think all Madhya Pradeshis are exactly like Soorma Bhopali since I have no other point of reference. The difference though is that muslims are over-represented in Bollywood, in both above and below the line talent. One may also argue that I use the word talent without discretion, and that too would be true. Lets look at a similar enough situation. Jews in Hollywood. It is common knowledge that they control the town. Producers, directors, agents, studio bosses, execs. A good chunk there. Wouldn’t it be odd if we never saw any Jewish characters as protagonists on film? No Adam Sandler movies which may not be an entirely bad thing. Bollywood Industry does not like muslims Bolly is a microcosm of India and it showcases the best and worst of India. Nepotism, and moral bankruptcy on one hand and true secularism and non-regionalism on the other. This should be readily apparent with all the muslims that make their living there. It’s hard to make movies without song/dance that revolve around Hindu customs/festivals Only YRF will be out of business, and we can all be happy for that. The rest of them can continue making movies. Hindu majority India hates muslims and does not want to see them succeed Could this be the case? Back in the day, the Yusufs and Begum Jahans had to Hinduize their names, probably looking for public acceptance. But that is not the case today with the preponderance of Khans running around town. I actually used to think that the guy in The Godfather that played Sonny was actually a Bollywood actor. This gets a little complicated and I’m going to resort to some anecdotalism and analogism here. I have already likened muslims to their co-abrahamists in Hollywood. I’m going to reach for another minority group. Blacks in America. While their specific historical experiences and minority status in their countries could not be more different, there are some similarities that deserve scrutiny. They are over-represented in high visibility fields that have more to do with talent and ability than with upbringing and opportunities. Athletics and music among the blacks, films with Indian muslims. Also, they are readily identifiable. The skin color of blacks, and names of muslims. Even in some of the blacklynching backwoods of America, people cheer for black athlete heroes when they play on their home team and say this and that for the opposition. I met a white Afrikaaner guy at a party in Cape town once. He was openly racist about African blacks, but was ok with Indians and African Americans. In fact, our conversation was interrupted when he would break to rap to some Fiddy number that was playing. Racism and bigotry is not without nuance. After the Gujarat riots, some interviewer actually asked Modi what would have happened if we had lost a talent like Irfan Khan (cricketer) to the riots because he was from a poor muslim family. Modi said something along the lines of “all life is precious, and we should not talk about hindu-muslim.” I think some of it has to do with treating celebrities like gods and not humans, and treating fellow humans like insects. The audience is not ready for Hindu-Muslim lou I was talking to a studio exec and he was telling me about how Hollywood operates regarding black actors. A bunch of suits in LA that have no experience of what the rest of the country is like and whether they are ready for something or not will decide what movies get made and how. The most egregious example of this is Pelican Brief with Julia Roberts and Denzel. It was the most unrealistic relationship. Ever. The usual justification is that America is not ready for miscegenation. That’s why Denzel never makes out in his movies. It becomes a bit of a quandary for casting directors, because no matter what genre it is, they like to have some obligatory kiss-kiss-grab-grab. They believe that it adds depth of characterization to show the guy and girl falling in love or lust in a bomb-on-a-bus movie. Also, if the guy and girl mack in the end, it’s a nice happy ending, and happy ending movies make more money than sad ones. You can not argue with statistics. The exec went on to explain that it is not that Hollywood has a bias against blacks, but they don’t know who to cast in the female lead. If they cast a black actress against Will Smith or Denzel, then it becomes a black film that white audiences won’t go to. If they cast a white actress, the masses will be irked and go on a lynching spree. The solution? Eva Langoria. Latinas are going to have so much work. I think muslims in Bollywood are in a similar sitch as people don’t want to have to deal with hindu-muslim relations in every movie. But what about movies like Dil Chahta Hai populated by Peddar Road brats. Is it that hard to imagine one of the 3 friends as a rich muslim character, especially when the director is a muslim, and two of the leads are Khans? Moneymen in Bollywood don’t want to fund movies with muslim protags Film financiers have only one goal. ROI. If people will watch them, they will fund them. People will watch them because they seem to have no problems watching heroes and heroines in real life. They can watch them only if someone will step up and make these films. Which brings me to the last reason. Muslims and Hindus alike are afraid of fatwa-decreeing mullahs I read this interview of a top Pakistani actress that acted in a Bollywood film. The name of the actress and the film escapes me. She said something along the lines of “Pakistan is an Islamic country and we can’t have heroes touching and kissing heroines the way Shah Rukh does, so our movies are different.” This was catalogued by my brain to misquote at a future date. I don’t know if what she said is true and if love is portrayed in Pakistani films without running around trees and wet saris. Where I come from, it is the only expression of love people will understand. I have tried flowers and chocolate. But nothing works like pelvic thrusts to onomatopoeic songs. Are people afraid that they will hurt muslim sentiments to show muslim characters drinking, clubbing and wooing women? It’s not like we have sex in our movies so I don’t get it. We know what happened to Rushdie and Taslima. If this is the case, it is odious and people need to wrangle power back. The Aamirs and Shah Rukhs of the world that wield so much power and influence need to act. |
   
Telugu_times
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Post Number: 6679 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:10 pm: |
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evarana cut and paste cheyyundri thx in adv |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 6687 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:08 pm: |
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http://passionforcinema.com/where-are-the-muslims/ except gangster movies and rarely movies like chak de india..dhoom..dor...we r no seeing them in mainstream movies in regular characters... reasons baa raasadu...} |