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Anand_n
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Nihil,
I definitely get it and so will most of the parents here...because we know how much selective bias we apply in what we teach our kids:-)

I would defnitely not tell my kids about my reservations/grouses againsts Gandhi till they are in mid teens...I doubt how many parents here would:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
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childhood requires that protection of selective bias
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Why shouldn't it be Universally applied then ???

Why shouldn't be it be Britishers on par with Gandhi, why the differential treatment applied ??


Will kids won't not be negatively influenced and would turn cynical to learn about British/Moghul things , if not about Gandhi and his high treason and sedition ?

One fella telling that its all to do with mathematics and another telling that its sunshine and childrens health.

Never heard that History can be used in Psychiatry.

LOL - i don't get it, if u get it good for u :-)

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Nihil,

Filtering ki adulteration ki chala difference undi:-)yes early childhood requires that protection of selective bias :-)

tell one child your dad is a thief and another that your dad is a great man..on a daily basis...iddaru kids self esteem and outlook to life and responsibility lo enta difference untundo as a doctor neeku telise untundi:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
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Anand
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Heads of state of independent India annanu..and excluded the far past..they are mutually exclusive
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Ohh..... SELECTION BIAS aa? got it .

Depends on whom we are discussing annamata -

1. When it comes to Britishers, Mughals we shouldn't filter it

2. And when comes to the so called leaders of Independent India -Gandhi& his yore, whose Hagiographies reach to Cult status in text books, we have to adulterate it, so that Kids are blessed with eternal sunshine and Positivism.


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Nihil,
Na post inkosari chaduvu...:-)
Heads of state of independent India annanu..and excluded the far past..they are mutually exclusive...

people cannot be proud of being independent and colonised and ravaged by mughal raiders:-)kids need to believe that the system they live in is secure so they can dream big:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
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Anand
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Sometimes kids need the sugarcoating
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Then why don't we sugarcoat about British History in India and teach that to Kids to propagate eternal positive sunshine in Kids& bring them out of their cynicism towards colonialism .

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ELCAMINO
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Comparing History with Maths is like Apples/Oranges.

As Quantum said Maths is Platonic deduction and History is Subjective Deduction.

Rest nee ignatha.


And what about the British Colonialism ?? what do u say about its negative portrayal in History books for kids ??

From the 1 class onwards we are told about British atrocities, Freedom fighting, Sepoy mutiny, Dhandi march etc etc...

British have done so many good to the country - why don't we discus that anywhere in the books ??

General Dayyar Jalian walahbagh lo 1300 members ni shoot chesadu ani enduku cheppali ????????? He should have done other great things - why don't we mention that ??


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Nihil / El,
/**.let the kids see only the good thing about history and leaders...or they will lose faith in everything..... **/

I am strongly against the whitewashing/distorting of historical facts...

That said I will partially agree with El's statement above...Not to the extent of distorting religious atrocities in the far past... But definitely about the heads of state of independent India :-)

I think it is important for children to be able to take pride in their country and leaders...If they believe that the country has only been led by self-serving, spineless politicians what will they look up or aspire to? Why would they want to do anything for the nation when it is going to the dogs anyway ?We will kill all idealism and raise cynics from the cradle. They will follow the spineless and self-serving leaders in their footsteps...

A visionary father of the nation , a chacha Nehru ,the ironman Patel are better ideals to follow even if they are not the whole truth ...

Let me bring the analogy closer to the family ...say a family has a morally decrepit patriarch..his son will try to shield that fact from the grandchildren cos he wants them to have the right example and respect the authority ...tata oka waste candidate ani chepparu- enduku ...selective distortion of family history kada ? Pillalaki nijam teliyali ani chinnappatinunchi cheppam kada ?

Sometimes kids need the sugarcoating :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
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Quantummorphed:

Teluguhero:
ow many people will explore or how many people have time to explore truth?
After 10th most of students will concentrate on specialization subjects like engineering,medicne,science.economics etc
This is the perfect answer to ur suggestion of exploration....Elca



How many people will learn methods of apllied statistics???
Whoever is interested in maths and takes it as a Major in higher studies...
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Teluguhero:

ow many people will explore or how many people have time to explore truth?

After 10th most of students will concentrate on specialization subjects like engineering,medicne,science.economics etc




This is the perfect answer to ur suggestion of exploration....Elca
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Quantummorphed:

History is not thought that way....U told that Akbar is great...enduku teacher..ante....either kodutundhi....lekapothe....tooch antundhi....adhe turakadhu aithe.....pant vippi sunthi chesi pamputhadhu.....adhi scene..
Sciences are platonic deductionism.....where as history is subjective deductivism...adhi big teda...via-a-vis mana indian schooling system



dude....did I support akbar anywhere???

2+2=4_____Tajmahal is one of 7 wonders and its made of marble

Methods of Applied Statistics _______Taj Mahal is a symbol of love but its questionalbe quote as Mumtaz Mahals loyalty to her husband was always debatable as there were claims she used bear children even before her meeting shahjahan...

I have two statements relating two matematics lessons....

one is simple equation and relating to it is simple information about tajmahal
THe second one is a advanced staistics lesson with the relating information on taj mahal being same complicated....

I hope u got what I was trying to say
do not distort...let them figure out at right time.....
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Teluguhero:



dude...Iam against propoganda ani 2 saarlu mothukunna....
i was only discussing the intensity nature of facts dat kids need to be exposed to....
rest eignatha
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Elcaminocapastrino:

C ...u study basic maths when ur in 1st class....say 2nd table...SO r the kids going to think that maths is as easy as learning second table...
then eventually as they grow old they learn trignometry and algebra...right???
this will be as similar as dat...
there wont be any sugar coating but unwanted info will be censored




Completely illogical comparison......yes they do learn trig and algebra...but that algebra re affirms the number theory they learn......coz if you solve a x+1 = 3

You indeed know that 2 preceeds 3....

History is not thought that way....U told that Akbar is great...enduku teacher..ante....either kodutundhi....lekapothe....tooch antundhi....adhe turakadhu aithe.....pant vippi sunthi chesi pamputhadhu.....adhi scene..

Sciences are platonic deductionism.....where as history is subjective deductivism...adhi big teda...via-a-vis mana indian schooling system
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if you teach and show them only good things .

then how come one knows and distingusih between good and bad.

History should always be like what it happened and tell the generations ahead what is good part and what is bad part.

as you said nehru affairs , it can be removed upto the tenth standard , but i ndegree it even may be included .
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Elcaminocapastrino:

....concentrate on the brighter aspects of history....and I also said to leave a space for them to explore themselves




How many people will explore or how many people have time to explore truth?

After 10th most of students will concentrate on specialization subjects like engineering,medicne,science.economics etc

Thread intiator inention is in school books no need to distort facts to appease minorities.Jalliamwalbagh massacre mentioned in sccol books and in same
way they should mention musilm rulers massacres also
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Nihil:

The Aryans composed poetry eulogizing their heroes for victories in wars. These later became famous as the Ramayana and Mahabharata.


callins sopathi...Romila ni kummey...
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Rebel:

meeku sinnapudu text books lo sadivinavi anni gurtunnaya...
naku ashokudu chetlu natadu, babar,akbar ee perlu tappite em gurtulevu...
histroy ni ela vakrikarinchina pillalu oka 25 yrs vachepatiki avem gurtundavu...inkenduku lolli..




nope..history gurtu undakapoyina..aa books create chesina impression alage undipoddi...asalu naku gandhi and nehru ante..picha ishtam chinnappudu...school unna history books chadivi..full positive impression..but age perugutunna koddi..after reading diff books on gandhi/nehru..i came to know the real picture..history ni as is ga present cheyyali..gitla evadiki vadu distort chestu pothe..konnallaki..gandhi/nehru ni devudu ga chaduvukuntaru mana pillalu..
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Nihil:

Maths lo 2+2= 4 : Thats universal truism...... daniki Secular interpretation em ledu like 2+2 = 0.5 ani Kid ayina, Post doctoral fellowship ayina that stays the same LOL
History lo kids ki 2+2 = 0.5 ani Sickular teaching , and peddayina tarvatha =4 ani teaching aa .....



ento anukunna meeru too much manipulate chestharr statements:D
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.u study basic maths when ur in 1st class....say 2nd table...SO r the kids going to think that maths is as easy as learning second table...
then eventually as they grow old they learn trignometry and algebra...right???
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Maths teaching ki vachara ippudu ??

Maths lo 2+2= 4 : Thats universal truism...... daniki Secular interpretation em ledu like 2+2 = 0.5 ani :-) Kid ayina, Post doctoral fellowship ayina that stays the same :-)LOL

History lo kids ki 2+2 = 0.5 ani Sickular teaching , and peddayina tarvatha =4 ani teaching aa .....

Ohh my mad - i am out of this thread.

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meeku sinnapudu text books lo sadivinavi anni gurtunnaya...
naku ashokudu chetlu natadu, babar,akbar ee perlu tappite em gurtulevu...
histroy ni ela vakrikarinchina pillalu oka 25 yrs vachepatiki avem gurtundavu...inkenduku lolli..
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TT,
mee joke ardham avvaledu:-)


IPC,
everyone is concerned about history being distorted...no one here has any way of influencing what goes in the textbooks..so we can continue griping about it to kill time or come up with workable thoughts to alleviate the problem ...different perspectives:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
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Nihil:

Apparently UK lo basic history lesson andi andi ..
Ayithe India lo different ga teach cheyali antaru - Great
Pillalu ante entha age varaku allowance vundi ??
Ante appativaraku SANITIZED, SUGAR-COATED history teach cheyyali annamata - Good Mari Graduate & Post graduate History kooda ilane vundala , Lepothe Upgrade cheyyala ?? Mari appudu kids confuse avvara, enti 2 different versions vunnayi ani ?? LOL



Yupp...if u dont want to mess them up u have to do it....concentrate on the brighter aspects of history....and I also said to leave a space for them to explore themselves ani anna.....eventually when they grow up....
I donno why it is so difficult to explain....
C ...u study basic maths when ur in 1st class....say 2nd table...SO r the kids going to think that maths is as easy as learning second table...
then eventually as they grow old they learn trignometry and algebra...right???
this will be as similar as dat...
there wont be any sugar coating but unwanted info will be censored
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Quantummorphed:


cut chesthe adhi inter pass anthe..




Inka ame kodukula leelalu in Cambridge cheppakarledu..

they went on Nehru Scholarship on Govt of India money..evadi babu gaadu sothu ani...and in fact even today most of the people who go on that scholarship are all chamchas of that family..

itla oka pedda history book rayochu andaramu kalisi...not sure who will distribute it..we can pool up funds and print it ..
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Yahoo:

Wikipedia laanti sites ki kuda Age restriction authorization pettalantaava?
Is it okay to restrict the ppl of 14 and below?



Well when we were in school itself we knew many things beyond our age....
Iam strictly telling from textbook perspective.....
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ELCAMINO

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pillalaki Genocide evvaru chepthunnaru bedar india lo
I donno about USA
What I said applies to everything....
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Apparently UK lo basic history lesson andi andi ..


Ayithe India lo different ga teach cheyali antaru - Great
Pillalu ante entha age varaku allowance vundi ??

Ante appativaraku SANITIZED, SUGAR-COATED history teach cheyyali annamata - Good


Mari Graduate & Post graduate History kooda ilane vundala , Lepothe Upgrade cheyyala ?? Mari appudu kids confuse avvara, enti 2 different versions vunnayi ani ??


LOL
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Koothru ta...letters rasindata...........adoka lesson...evadikayya goppa rasthe....

cut chesthe indhira inter pass anthe.....>>>

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Quantummorphed:

Are u kidding????????????? Second world war chadavala?????????? danilo HITLER ante mana raavanasurudi cosuin brother la rastharu choodu.........



if possible narrate me what they wrote about hitler exactly...
I knew more about hitler from other sources than text books...I dont remember honestly.....and again I said wat I mentioned before applies to everything
SHivaji or shahjahan or mumtaz mahal or hitler
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Raju Bedar Iam not saying what u said aint no facts...I even agreed wid u on nehrus personal life...
just saying they r too much info to know for young minds....




Wikipedia laanti sites ki kuda Age restriction authorization pettalantaava?

Is it okay to restrict the ppl of 14 and below?
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pillalaki Genocide evvaru chepthunnaru bedar india lo




Are u kidding????????????? Second world war chadavala?????????? danilo HITLER ante mana raavanasurudi cosuin brother la rastharu choodu.........

Hitler enno proper panulu chesadu....kani tappu def ga chesadu......Nehru gadi gurinchi chapters chapters rastharu..........mari annaya chesina krishna leelala gurinchi no prasthavana???????????????????

Koothruta...letters rasindata...........adoka lesson...evadikayya goppa rasthe....

cut chesthe adhi inter pass anthe.....danni teeskelli PM chesaru..........Gandhiji GAndhiji ani................
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Rajusk:

I have visited Taj Mahal...and one of the stones there carries this information..galthi se undipoyindemi emo..
It says that she had X number of children in Y years of her marriage (where X=Y don't remember the exact numbers) and she died while being pregnant with the Zth child (where Z=Y)...meaning every year of marriage she had a child..



Raju Bedar Iam not saying what u said aint no facts...I even agreed wid u on nehrus personal life...
just saying they r too much info to know for young minds....
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Ohh, then why don't we also show the good about HITLER& fill the history books with nice,pleasant things - i can say 100 things Hitler done to the Germany starting from Nationalism to Architecture to Scientific achievements.
Mari papam Genocide ni mention chesthe Kids hope lose avatam leda ???
Why shouldn't we delete that from History books ??



pillalaki Genocide evvaru chepthunnaru bedar india lo
I donno about USA
What I said applies to everything....
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Vaadini pelli jesukonnapatinunchi sachipoyedaka..ame pillalni kantune vundi..non-stop(this is not fiction..you can read it on the stone at Taj Mahal itself if you have ever visited)..inka Love ekkadido




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I have visited Taj Mahal...and one of the stones there carries this information..galthi se undipoyindemi emo..

It says that she had X number of children in Y years of her marriage (where X=Y don't remember the exact numbers) and she died while being pregnant with the Zth child (where Z=Y)...meaning every year of marriage she had a child..
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today kids have access to far more information...>>>

thanks anand garu
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this a classic example Raju Bedar....
A kid should know only about Taj Mahal...dats it and its architectural significance...
....Mumtaz extra marital affairs....that lonely nights in villas...those full moon naked baths wines...group oragsms....r they really necessary???:D




haha .. gud answer !

I am glad India has the freedom for people to know whatever they want.
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.let the kids see only the good thing about history and leaders...or they will lose faith in everything.....
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Ohh, then why don't we also show the good about HITLER& fill the history books with nice,pleasant things - i can say 100 things Hitler done to the Germany starting from Nationalism to Architecture to Scientific achievements.


Mari papam Genocide ni mention chesthe Kids hope lose avatam leda ???
Why shouldn't we delete that from History books ??

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Elcaminocapastrino:

this a classic example Raju Bedar....
A kid should know only about Taj Mahal...dats it and its architectural significance...
....Mumtaz extra marital affairs....that lonely nights in villas...those full moon naked baths wines...group oragsms....r they really necessary???:D


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Rajusk:

Same with ShahJahan..Vaadu Taj Mahal anta..love anta..
Vaadini pelli jesukonnapatinunchi sachipoyedaka..ame pillalni kantune vundi..non-stop(this is not fiction..you can read it on the stone at Taj Mahal itself if you have ever visited)..inka Love ekkadido



this a classic example Raju Bedar....
A kid should know only about Taj Mahal...dats it and its architectural significance...
....Mumtaz extra marital affairs....that lonely nights in villas...those full moon naked baths wines...group oragsms....r they really necessary???:D
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Same with ShahJahan..Vaadu Taj Mahal anta..love anta.. >>>

Taj Mahal kattina workers chethulu narikeyyadam, so that they dont build another one.
Malli vaadu prema ki chihnam. Prapancha shanthi, disco shanthi.
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Ajai C ramdoss ani naa senior unde vadu....ippudu prof...NYU anukunta....JEE Air 2

RSS ante pichi pranam.................naa vidhi vakrinchi....nannu ragging chesadu...chachanu anthe....secularism...edho pedha padalu vadanu...17 ellu kadha..rechanu......next 7 days lo naaku krishnudi notlo....bhoogolam choopettadhu..

cut chesthe after 6 months nenu bhi RSS lo enroll ayyanu.....aa rojule veru...Valentines day ki...oka sari..KVIIT deggara oka northie ....edho extra chestunte......annaya pilichi....tera naam kya he bey ante.....edho cheppadu

"ye valantine kya he bey" ante annaya telivi pradarsinchadu.....tera naam ka matlab kya he rein...ante...."ya that ya OK....actually...."......

Nxt Q..."kitne din goron ka chatoge maada$4564"

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Elcaminocapastrino:

but unnanthalo show them the bright side....give them hope......and also give them space and create curiosity for them to explore more when they grow up....


8yr kid ki pyack...syphillis antey enti ani???
SO appaudu Sex education 10th class lo kakunda u have to start it from 3rd class.


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IPC,
agree that it is difficult to get out of the indoctrination- am not justifying it either..I was fortunate enough to have a mom and dad who gave us the other side of history..but those were different days - today kids have access to far more information...
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Telugu_times:

Akbar manchi vaadu. endhuku raa antay, vaadu Hindu ladies ni kooda pelli sesukunnaadu.




Entha mandi anedi sepparu..adi sensor..

Same with ShahJahan..Vaadu Taj Mahal anta..love anta..

Vaadini pelli jesukonnapatinunchi sachipoyedaka..ame pillalni kantune vundi..non-stop(this is not fiction..you can read it on the stone at Taj Mahal itself if you have ever visited)..inka Love ekkadido
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Akbar manchi vaadu. endhuku raa antay, vaadu Hindu ladies ni kooda pelli sesukunnaadu. gitla untayi, mana vaalla logiks.




BABA garu correst sepparu
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Nehru......aa perulne swardham undhi.........chahcha nehru na ariti kayi tokkana...



em cheyyamantav....different perceptions....
but except nehru wat quant quoted about indiramma and congi I always agreed...
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am sick of this glorifying islamic rule and pretending that it was the golden rule



yupp...they got to remove it...
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i am sick of this glorifying islamic rule and pretending that it was the golden rule >>>

Akbar manchi vaadu. endhuku raa antay, vaadu Hindu ladies ni kooda pelli sesukunnaadu. gitla untayi, mana vaalla logiks.
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Elcaminocapastrino:

on a lighter note mana DB historians ki history books raayamantey chacha nehru had sex with lady mountbatten and he had syphillis when he died antarr...
8yr kid ki pyack...syphillis antey enti ani???
SO appaudu Sex education 10th class lo kakunda u have to start it from 3rd class....


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Nehru......aa perulne swardham undhi.........chahcha nehru na ariti kayi tokkana...
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IPC bro...let the kids see only the good thing about history and leaders...or they will lose faith in everything......Iam against propoganda....but unnanthalo show them the bright side....give them hope......and also give them space and create curiosity for them to explore more when they grow up....




i am sick of this glorifying islamic rule and pretending that it was the golden rule
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Dude.........propogating truth is far better than propogating comfy lies to kids...
Muslim invasions ni eulogise chesi rayatam kanna neechatvam inkoti ledhu....muslims manchi vaaru kadhu ani evaru raayamantam ledhu.....but Jodha Akbar stry cheppi.........pakkana episodes lo dastardly acts ani...extra syllabus lo pedithene........problem......samjhe



Dude...I said Iam against propoganda....
SHow watever the good we have in history anna...if they patronzing muslim invaders ... they got to remove it...show the bright side...like in PG movies with all happy endings
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Nehru......aa perulne swardham undhi.........chahcha nehru na ariti kayi tokkana...

vaadi kooturu indiramma.....guttaku teeskoni...desanni 50 ellu venakki nadipincharu......votes kosam......red light paniki kooda venakadaru...alanti jaati...ee congress
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Quantummorphed:




it took a lot of time and reading for me to get out of the NCERT indoctrination....thats were the JNU historians are succeding at
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n a lighter note mana DB historians ki history books raayamantey chacha nehru had sex with lady mountbatten and he had syphillis when he died antarr...
8yr kid ki pyack...syphillis antey enti ani???




Dude.........propogating truth is far better than propogating comfy lies to kids...

Muslim invasions ni eulogise chesi rayatam kanna neechatvam inkoti ledhu....muslims manchi vaaru kadhu ani evaru raayamantam ledhu.....but Jodha Akbar stry cheppi.........pakkana episodes lo dastardly acts ani...extra syllabus lo pedithene........problem......samjhe
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good idea but when will the future generation become rid of this brainwashing ...if u read any textbook its full of this propaganda by JNU historians....here the concern is to give the current school children the right history lessons .... we all read these textbooks in our childhood and believed them and we started looking at the real history in our mid 20s and 30s....



IPC bro...let the kids see only the good thing about history and leaders...or they will lose faith in everything......Iam against propoganda....but unnanthalo show them the bright side....give them hope......and also give them space and create curiosity for them to explore more when they grow up....
on a lighter note mana DB historians ki history books raayamantey chacha nehru had sex with lady mountbatten and he had syphillis when he died antarr...
8yr kid ki pyack...syphillis antey enti ani???
SO appaudu Sex education 10th class lo kakunda u have to start it from 3rd class....:D
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good idea but when will the future generation become rid of this brainwashing ...if u read any textbook its full of this propaganda by JNU historian




Okappudu JNU ante bhale respect undedhi.........mana romali garini chusaka....vadhule..........ippati varaku okka sari kooda boothu matladala life lo...
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IPC,
even 1 percent penetration unna it will make a difference..ikkada ncert ni tidte aa matram use kuda ledu kada:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Nope...btw I said bye bye to that zurich girl....the last thing I want is my kid to call me pop and dad....I can't take such broadminded ppl into my life....ppl who think..that talking in telugu somehow betrays unrefinedness......




good for you...antha mana manchike anukovali..
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Is the same girl now in Zurich...learning French..and I don't want to repeat the rest of the story




Nope...btw I said bye bye to that zurich girl....the last thing I want is my kid to call me pop and dad....I can't take such broadminded ppl into my life....ppl who think..that talking in telugu somehow betrays unrefinedness......
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I know a girl who told me once that she studied french for 6 yrs in school and college....she is a telugu girl raised in N.India..and later moved to HYD




Is the same girl now in Zurich...learning French..and I don't want to repeat the rest of the story
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.internet info reliability meedha matladatam kooda waste....Information management ane field inka.........respectable brach staayiki kooda edagala.......FYI..ppl.......


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LOL>...........internet info reliability meedha matladatam kooda waste....Information management ane field inka.........respectable brach staayiki kooda edagala.......FYI..ppl.......

That is exactly y internet can never replace a GURU.........there needs to be one who disseminates info...and sets a process of Q and A.....

Romila Thapar ki unna credibility oka chinna example....amma garu Cornell lo visit prof velaga bettindhi...konni ellu...

Oka peer reviewer....cheppina statement....avida vellepoyetappudu:

"I am glad romila came here.....it brings great cultural exposure to the dept...blah....

Surprisingly her stint here left me with no greater appreciation of ancient Hindu culture than the fact that Indians speak better british english than US americans........."

That sums her up..........a proper pseudo intellectual
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Raju

evaru vachedi ?? vachi em cheptharu ?

Objective ga point to point discussion cheyatam radu -If they hear what they don't want to hear they call it RSS propaganda, Brainwash - LOL

Let them read their Bibles - Romila thapar is thier Saint paul , Gandhi is Jesus , Nehru is the apostle - ROFL.




This has come to disgusting proportion in India...pseudo intellects....ppl who believe that using lang as a medium is a barometer of refinedness...

I know a girl who told me once that she studied french for 6 yrs in school and college....she is a telugu girl raised in N.India..and later moved to HYD...I asked her " what prompted u to take french...." I wud have been happy if she learnt it coz she is interested in new langs...etc.....which was not the case...pat came the reply..." by 7 th hindi became 2 much for me...I wanted something cool...and took french".....I said then what about your mother tounge..and commented that it has become something of a fad today to pursue french etc...and she told me that "every language has its own sweetness".....I was bewildered by the answer...coz some one who doesnt know his own tounge properly is seeking the sweetness in other langs......

some time later in Grad School.....I introduced her to my french friends and told them that she known frnech wel...They started speaking in french INSTANTLY...I looked wryly at her...coz a few moments earlier....She started the talk with a long english content......

I plain told her....u will even be startled to the point of being ashamed how germans, the poles are so protective abt their lang....A german guy never tries to converse with a fellow german in ENglish or french to pass of as knowledgeable..
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Internet ...information dissemination ki most effective even in India:-)




Anand Garu..Internet penetration entha undi India lo...percentage wise..

Don't talk about AP/Karnataka and Tamil Nadu..

Think about Chattisgarh/Jharkand and Orissa...
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Interested and concerned people can research and put the right information out on the net..wiki etc..govt does not hve the strangle hold on info that it once did




good idea but when will the future generation become rid of this brainwashing ...if u read any textbook its full of this propaganda by JNU historians....here the concern is to give the current school children the right history lessons .... we all read these textbooks in our childhood and believed them and we started looking at the real history in our mid 20s and 30s....
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Interested and concerned people can research and put the right information out on the net..wiki etc..




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Nihil,
Doctor nuvvu kani ee sickness ki possible antidote cheptanu:-)

Internet ...information dissemination ki most effective even in India:-)

Interested and concerned people can research and put the right information out on the net..wiki etc..govt does not hve the strangle hold on info that it once did:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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evaru vachedi ?? vachi em cheptharu ?

Objective ga point to point discussion cheyatam radu -If they hear what they don't want to hear they call it RSS propaganda, Brainwash - LOL

Let them read their Bibles - Romila thapar is thier Saint paul , Gandhi is Jesus , Nehru is the apostle - ROFL.


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general gaa ben-galeze gallu yekkuvaga ila charithranu vakreekaristaaru.

(ofcourse ippudu ap lo kooda ap history ni ilaaney chestunnaru anuko)
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as usual y re....yes re.....u love lipstick...mee too re....I like evita.....imported from france re........meanwhile did u read what mahabharatha talks abt women....so disgusting ya.......




chaala rojulu ayyindi ee St.Ann's English choosi..manasara navvinchinanduku thanks..
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I think punjab, not sure.
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JNU mafia ki trainer....deeni noti nunchi okka sari kooda hindi padam vinala nenu...kaani hindu sanskrithi gurinchi thana notiki vachindhi vaagutundhi...pedha pseudo batch....

as usual y re....yes re.....u love lipstick...mee too re....I like evita.....imported from france re........meanwhile did u read what mahabharatha talks abt women....so disgusting ya.......

ee batch ki leader idhi.....manam roju tarasa pade adavallo chaala mandhi ilnati vallu unnaru
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>>Romila thaper>>

ye state yeevidadi? bengal???
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>>Romila thaper>>

ye state yeevidadi?
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too complicated thread. only state level varakaithey, caste/waste ani yedho seyyocchu. national level kattam
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Endi BABA oka Congi Bhajan Gang member kooda vasthaledu thread loki..list lo kinda Nihil brother pettindi..Communist perlu kada..enduku bhujalu tadimings
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srsly........nenu 2 yrs back varaku RSS hater ni....but I now whole heartedly back RSS >>>

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romali thapar antha half baked knowledge unna lafoot danni nenu naa life lo choodala....

srsly........nenu 2 yrs back varaku RSS hater ni....but I now whole heartedly back RSS...india needs...a RSS.............if it eliminated Congi...I will root for any party....proviso they retract the idiotic policies of congi......

COngi is the only party that single handedly pushed india back under the Gandhi's...for at least a good 40 years....
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Medieval India by notorius sickularist Romila thaper >>>

she is the worst pellow. civil services ki, geemay books sadhuvu thaar
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Have a look at the History and its distortion by the Sickular dimwits in NCERT , CBSE syllabus >>>>>>

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Modern India by Arjun Dev
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The Jats plundered and looted people all around. They also conspired to destabilize the Delhi Durbar. (Page 21)

veer Savarkar, Khudiram Bose, Prafulla Chaki, Hardayal and others were terrorists.


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West Bengal Government’s circular to teachers:
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There should be no criticism of the muslim rulers of India. There should be no mention of the attacks by muslim invaders and the destruction of temples.

Topics of essay-writing for students by w. bengal higher secondary school board:


1 National Unity and integrity is a false political slogan.
2 There is no place for Hindus and Hindi language in Hindustan.
3 National revolution is the only foundation for progress.


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Medieval India by notorius sickularist Romila thaper
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After the death of the seventh Guru there arose a succession dispute. So, aurangzeb ordered the execution of Guru Teg Bahadur. (Page 158)

Rama, Krishna and Arjuna were mythical heroes. (Page 245)

Guru Teg Bahadur was plunderer. (Page 107)

The Aryans composed poetry eulogizing their heroes for victories in wars. These later became famous as the Ramayana and Mahabharata. (page 39)


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Medieval India by Satish Chandra
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* Aurangzeb was a God-fearing man. He is remembered as "Zinda-Peer. (page 85)

* Mahamad of Ghazani attacked and destroyed temples for the purpose of merely looting them. These raids has nothing to do with islam. (Page 44)

* Though Shivaji was regarded as the saviour of India, he mercilessly looted and killed the people of Belur and Jinji. (page 245)



This is the status quo of Distorted History teaching in India - what else one can expect by its Progeny apart from Secular flat-earthers who consider this teaching as Bible.


BBC,TIME mag, Media and other Third party foreign universities are tools of RSS propaganda anta :-) LOL


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