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Teluguhero
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Elcaminocapastrino:




Another comparision

amitabh's don remade in many langugaes

But Sr NTr,Mohan lal,rajani kanth and SRK no match to amitabh's dual roles
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Dude
dont U c...U like Big B...
this will never end....
But from the number of movies I have seen....and whatever I learnt and observed...its my perspective on amitabh that he is an OK actor....some time people are not willing to see beyond his voice and towering persona....
Take Amitabhs Sarkar
Compare it to Pankaj kapoor in Maqbool and nana patekar in apharan
all similar characters.....U see the difference




Yes it will never end .I like Amitabh and you like kamal.

Reagrding comaprision its rediculous,sarkar is orinary commercial movie whereas

Maqbool is superb movie and its well apreciated in international film festivals.Both movies have diffrent plots and compriing characters of both movies is not apt.

If you want comaprision I will give some examples

Amiatbh's Akhari raasta is Kamals khaidi veta remake.here both did well,but I felt amitabh's performance better than kamal
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I dint watched many Big B movies..only few Coolie,Azooba,Aankhen,K3G,Mohabbatein and Khakee.

I like his diction as a voice-over in the films like 'Lagaan' and 'Koun banega crorepati' than acting in above movies.
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Balayya is great actor..
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Teluguhero:



Dude
dont U c...U like Big B...
this will never end....
But from the number of movies I have seen....and whatever I learnt and observed...its my perspective on amitabh that he is an OK actor....some time people are not willing to see beyond his voice and towering persona....
Take Amitabhs Sarkar
Compare it to Pankaj kapoor in Maqbool and nana patekar in apharan
all similar characters.....U see the difference
Watch outfor nayagan
kamals hardly 35 in dat movie???watch out the scene when he goes after his daugher for abusing kanak raj...or his confrontations with his grand daughet...
Amitabh rocks in wooing the masses...theres no two questions about it..dats it
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El,
Sure that is your take..only angry or romantic roles annaru ani post chesanu:-)

Naku kamal action peddaga nachadu - he's very talented but other than Nayakan, his expressions are too vaudeville for my taste - overdramatised anipistayi naaku ..again that's because I prefer understatement:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Yupp...esp OM puri in some movies Hams...even de niro had bad movies...
its like why roger federer wont play good in every match...as simple as that




Exactly my point is also same .I think you watched
bigb's few good movies and more bad movies

anyway here is list of great actors in lead characters from present and past generation i felt talented and did all kinds of roles.g

Hindi

amitabh,Sanjeev kumar,anil kapoor,naseerduin shah,ompuri

South

Mohan lal,kaml hasn,mamooti,Chiranheevi

past generation(

Hindi

Gurudutt,raj kapoor,dilip kumar

South

NTR,ANR,SVR,Raj kumar,Sivaji ganesan
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my places stayed are chandrapur (Mah), Raipur (MP/Chattisgarh), Jeypore (Ori),Malkangiri(Ori), TataNagar(BiH), Kollegal(KAR),Itarsi, finally Andhra settled permanently
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Will tell U....amitabh is pretty inconsistent...He will have flashes of brilliance here and there in a movie...it wont be consistent through out the movie....u see sarkar raj when he gets stroke after seeing the blast...pretty ordinary...
See him perform at Abhisheks death bed ...he is good
look kamals performance through out Nayagan....splendid
I have seen most of the movies U metnioned in TV...
pretty ordinary except Anand and other hrishida movies...
Iam not a kamal fan...but I have respect for his talent and passion for cinema..dats it
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Basky,
Thread chusanu but did not get to watch the video..hindi/english films were a constant as we moved states ..so same here:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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yesterday i posted a thread. lawaris full song. did u see that. 9 mins song including all the beat music before tha lyrics start.

MAHA lo 3/4 years stayed in chldhood, so amitabs direct influence in hindi films esthablish ayipoyindhi.
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Anand_n:


u forgot to add Muqaddar ka sikandar, deewar,janzeer, mazboor ,DON, shakthi ,kabhie kabhie , yes kalapathar offcourse,
shaan,

where different shades unna anni roles he played comedy,action,stunts,romantic,power punched dialogues etc
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Teluguhero:

Nasserudin shah and ompuri did some great movies ,but their coomerical movies somtimes I feel unbearable to watch
Same with kamal also and in some movies he did lot of overaction



Yupp...esp OM puri in some movies Hams...even de niro had bad movies...
its like why roger federer wont play good in every match...as simple as that...
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El,

Meeru AB cinemalu enni chusaro doubt vastundi...to say he did only tough action or soft romantic roles is like RGV saying his performance is best in AAG etc :-)

You are forgetting AB was a constant in amny Hrishida films - and Hrishida chars monotonous anevallani nenu chudaledu..Alaap about singer's conflict with his father ,decades before Rudraveena....
KhudaGawah - where Afghans praised him that his body language was more Afghan than them...Farar where he plays a fugitive ,kaala pathar - a coal miner in a disaster,national award winning Agneepath...Anand,Namak Haraam,ee roles anni me broad categorisations loki vastaya ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Elcaminocapastrino:

if UR talented U will have burning desire to prove ur worth in different roles




ok but so called thses talented actors you mentioned kamal hasan,Naseerduin shah,ompuri etc

why some times unbearable to watch ?

Nasserudin shah and ompuri did some great movies ,but their coomerical movies somtimes I feel unbearable to watch

Same with kamal also and in some movies he did lot of overaction
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Amitabh I mean Apart from comedy and chopras romance he didnt venture into anything else other than action....
how can you compare him to kamal????




ok Now I understood.I think You watched few movies of BigB and you came to conclusion.

I 70s he did variety roles and at that time he was an upacming actor he never did for image building.From 80s onwards he acted all commerical masal movies for star images.

The movies of amitabh I mentioned portray him intense and powerful peformer

The movies of kamal you mentioned more or less same manner m soft and sesitive charterisation may be getups and mannerisams different for each character
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Teluguhero:

NTR,ANR,sivaji ganasanetc all all kinds of roles like mythological,historical,social etc
whereas Marlon brando,al pacino,Rober deniro never did those kind of roles
If Nfans will come and say that NTR is best actor and Alpacino is just an ordinary actor do you agree with them?



First of all Why are U giving so much importance to mythology?????
secondly...no one knows how Krishan looka or Rama dresses...Watever they did its final...u have to see...nothing taking away from em..they were good...
Whats so diversified in the roles done by the people u mentioned...when u said Social U know how much variety U r talking about???
A rebellious Hooligan,A Paralyzed war veteran,A good hearted mafia head,A husband coping up with the deat if his wife by getting addicted to perverted sexual activities,A Whistle Blower in a corrupted Newyork waterfront,,A parasytic miner husband....
And many more........
THese are all the characters done by brando....
dont get me started with deniro and pacino....
Each and every character is a case study.....a perfect artful depiction of classes,natures and emotions....I will talk about it for days...and I can dissect each and every emotion its importance and its relevance....thats wat good actors are about...they know each and every nuiance of what must be done before the camers....So just dont say social...
Amitabh I mean Apart from comedy and chopras romance he didnt venture into anything else other than action....
how can you compare him to kamal????
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Amitabh too much actor antey kaadhu normal candi ani disco....>>>>

Yeah, but Amitabh has abnormal things too
like

height
voice
lefty

those things added to his advantage
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Teluguhero:

In Hollywood some actors learnt method acting and they did courses realted to method acting
Most of our older genration great actors never went metohd acting courses may be they did without knowledge of method acting.



Nope....its determination and dedication to the art that makes U to go for a method...
Marlon Brando spent months in a nursing home to get into the character of paralyzed war veteran in the movie THE MEN...
De Niro rode Taxis in manhattan at nights for months to prepare for taxi driver role
Daniel Day lewis again apent months in Butcher Shop in london before he took the role of Bill the butcher in gangs of new york...
There are many folks in india too who do this...Iam not recollecting now...
AMitabh is not older generation...70s...by that time with their exposure they would have known everything about these tricks....
I dont agree with the excuses...if UR talented U will have burning desire to prove ur worth in different roles,,,,
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//If Nfans will come and say that NTR is best actor and Alpacino is just an ordinary actor do you agree with them?//

Good Point bro..
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"AAkali Rajyam.....Sagara SAngamam.....Swati Mutyam...Indrudu CHandrudu,Bharahteeyudu,Satyame SHivam,Vichitra sohodharulu,Michael madam kama raju,sathi leelavathi,Vettayadu valiyadu....GUna...."

I agree wth you that kamal is geat actor .I Like all films in your list.

I will give you simple example

NTR,ANR,sivaji ganasanetc all all kinds of roles like mythological,historical,social etc

whereas Marlon brando,al pacino,Rober deniro never did those kind of roles

If Nfans will come and say that NTR is best actor and Alpacino is just an ordinary actor do you agree with them?
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"....who said indian actors never followed method acting.....many people did that...most popular ones are ...ANR...didnt eat for days to get the look for devdas and was in depression through out the shoot.....Kamal used to goto police acadamies to spend some time while playing the roles of cops... "

In Hollywood some actors learnt method acting and they did courses realted to method acting

Most of our older genration great actors never went metohd acting courses may be they did without knowledge of method acting.
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tamudu Amitabh played soft roles in Anand,Abhiman, Chupke Chupke.etc.as well
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Elcaminocapastrino:

Regarding Amitabh didnt do the roles which kamal did because he was not offered...then I would say even super star Krishna is a great actor he didnt do diverse roles becuase he was not offered....




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Pavala:

"Aankhein" lo Amitabh villain role as Vijay Malhothra...na bhooth...na bhavishyath...rest nee eignatha



aankhen nenu already quote chesa babai....its his forte...grumpy angry roless...dats his bread and butter...
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Ultimatum:

Elca dude, ur tending to say kamal is superior to amitabh...we can discuss for ages but Amitabh has done roles that are equal or better to kamal's..Kamal as an actor always strives for variety..where as amitabh tried to pick the roles he was offered..and without any doubt he has excelled in them...kamal is also a great actor but more often he overplays too....



I made my point ...showed the diversity in kamals approach....
Amitabh has a life time oppurtunity to prove it in Black...he messed it up...
Regarding Amitabh didnt do the roles which kamal did because he was not offered...then I would say even super star Krishna is a great actor he didnt do diverse roles becuase he was not offered....
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"Aankhein" lo Amitabh villain role as Vijay Malhothra...na bhooth...na bhavishyath...rest nee eignatha
Yevadu boora voodhithey Pamulannee bussumani puttalo nundi bhayataku vasthaayo, vaade Pavala
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Elca dude, ur tending to say kamal is superior to amitabh...we can discuss for ages but Amitabh has done roles that are equal or better to kamal's..Kamal as an actor always strives for variety..where as amitabh tried to pick the roles he was offered..and without any doubt he has excelled in them...kamal is also a great actor but more often he overplays too....
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Pavala:

Elaca tamud
Nishabd, Sarkar, Sarkar raj, Khakee, BLACK soodu Amitabh acting simpi saata sesio...neeku Kamal nachio....maaku Amitabh nachio..rest nee eignatha



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Elcaminocapastrino:

Amitabh too much actor antey kaadhu normal candi ani disco...



Elaca tamud
Nishabd, Sarkar, Sarkar raj, Khakee, BLACK soodu Amitabh acting simpi saata sesio...neeku Kamal nachio....maaku Amitabh nachio..rest nee eignatha
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>>just look at the diversity man....

poranikam movies vunte cheppamannadu OT.
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Savage:

tamud nuvvu thata ni ante ippudu OT and co Kamal ni antar



nenu fan ni kaadhu babai....
Amitabh too much actor antey kaadhu normal candi ani disco....
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Elcaminocapastrino:


tamud nuvvu thata ni ante ippudu OT and co Kamal ni antar
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<<<Many Indian great actors never followed method acting.Amiatbh got angry young man image for his best performance in deewar
I will give not one but 10 carrer best performances of 70s movie and all are different roles
deewar,Zanzeer,Abhiman,Kabhi kabhi,don,trisul,saudagar,majboor,adalat and kala pattar>>>>
}
Sorry ...that thread went to archive so quoting from dat......
babai....who said indian actors never followed method acting.....many people did that...most popular ones are ...ANR...didnt eat for days to get the look for devdas and was in depression through out the shoot.....Kamal used to goto police acadamies to spend some time while playing the roles of cops...
THe movies of amitabh that you mentioned all r more orless portray him in same manner...image builders....I dont see any speciality there???
I will tell U kamals line of work
AAkali Rajyam.....Sagara SAngamam.....Swati Mutyam...Indrudu CHandrudu,Bharahteeyudu,Satyame SHivam,Vichitra sohodharulu,Michael madam kama raju,sathi leelavathi,Vettayadu valiyadu....GUna....
just look at the diversity man....
he covered everything ........}

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