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     Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 107 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.118.175 Rating: N/A |
ZULU --------------- bottomline enti? India ni kanchi peethadhipathi rule cheyyalantava enti kompatheesi. ------------------ Bottomline enti ante - Osama Bin Laden& Taleban party ki iddam anukuntunna - Civil Liberties baguntayi anta  ROFL Elcaminocapastrino ------------ If someone fails to see hitler in black and white then theres something wrong with him -------------------- LOL- do u want me try on the same lines . Ok- here we are - If some one fails to see Communism/Secularism/Terrorism in black& white then theres something DEFINITELY wrong with him. and the Bonus - If some one fails to see Gandhi/Nehru in black& white then theres something DEFINITELY wrong with him. . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5872 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.81 Rating: N/A |
If someone fails to see hitler in black and white then theres something wrong with him | ||
| Zulu Comedian Username: Zulu Post Number: 1063 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.112.167.87 Rating: N/A |
bottomline enti? India ni kanchi peethadhipathi rule cheyyalantava enti kompatheesi. Think Global,Act Local | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 106 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.114.124 Rating: N/A |
Elcaminocapastrino ----------------------- I dont where know you are going but I think we are both debating on the same side ---------------- NO, i don't think we are on the same side . What i gather from ur posts - Your view of Hitlers policies IS Black& White Manichean view where in ur judging him with a list of yours //// at the same time Your view of Democracy, Communism & others IS Triangulation where in you are trying to connect all the dots in the end leading to moral obfuscation. Inthakante ela cheppalo teliaydu - thats about it pal. MVSSR -------- Simple ga cheppina the way u put it is effective and hits the bulls eye. . | ||
| Mvssr75 Junior Artist Username: Mvssr75 Post Number: 59 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 12.10.219.36 Rating: N/A |
Terrorists = Who try to destroy their ideological enemies by brute force Modern Indian Communists = who try to destroy the own house they live and try to sell it to their ideological brothers. Secularists = Cong party = Big Pseudo = always protect Minorities (only muslims and not others) even they are wrong and punish Majority (Hindus) | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5847 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
yupp dats why I said there is no perfect mode of govt... Europe ,USA ,Canada,India borrowed socialist principles...Health care for old people,social security,Indhiramma illu,Aarogyasri.... CHina is borrowing capitalist ideologies and guess wat they dont have a health care plan either for old folks... but the middle class is rocking there..... I dont where know you are going but I think we are both debating on the same side | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 105 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.114.124 Rating: N/A |
obviously u will have a barometer in practical world.... A Ratio of (development,progress,peace) to (destruction,death,hatred) and things like dat... u just see.....u learn and u know right???whats been done.... Why is to difficult to judge hitler??? ------------------------------------------ LOL - When u don't have a difficulty of judging Hitlers policies by the parameters u laundry listed,then the same list can also apply to Democracy , Communism and other forms of Governance and set a barometer to follow in the PRACTICAL world. "u just see.....u learn and u know right???whats been done...." Your own words mate. . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5839 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
obviously u will have a barometer in practical world.... A Ratio of (development,progress,peace) to (destruction,death,hatred) and things like dat... u just see.....u learn and u know right???whats been done.... Why is to difficult to judge hitler??? | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 104 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.114.124 Rating: N/A |
At what cost???watever that versailles treaty what hitler did and what happened to the world???nothing can justify his acts... --------------------------- Thats my central question ?? Who are you to justify or unjustify Hitlers acts when you urself is going along the path of relativism and says "" prevailing soci--economic conditions dictates the policies " Don't veer off the path and bring Lenin, Stalin, Bush etc - if u r interested open another thread - lets just concentrate on Hitler and ur antipathy to his policies. Simple& starightforward - How can a relativist pass a sweeping judgement like " at what cost " ?? Nothing can justify his policies ?? Is there a barometer set to guage such policies - if please share with us . . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5834 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
At what cost???watever that versailles treaty what hitler did and what happened to the world???nothing can justify his acts....in USSR alone millions of people died due to the pre and post war effects.... I was talking about russia when I quoted the one you are referring to.... Until the death of lenin and Stalin came to pic everything was looking like its taking a proper shape..correct me if Iam wrong ... stalin screwed it up....though the order was there people were subjected to terror.... di u think a church going pious dumb voter from south alabama voting for bush for the reason bush is a christian justifies democracy???? if that guy cant think of the fact that the same bush ordered for a mindless war in iraq which is killing kids ...do u think he has a right to vote??? well flaws are there in every system...u agree it or not | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1781 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
 anna jara English lo jepparade | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 103 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.114.124 Rating: N/A |
but at what cost??? ------------------- These are your very own words in this post "those sort of governances were written based on the socio economic conditions prevailing in those places in those days... Hitler ki aa prevailing socio-economic conditions lo ala cheyalsi vachindemo, the governance he adopted Like Totalitarianism and Aryan supremacy . Infact John meynard Keynes who is the father of Macroeconomics ( Keynesian economics is named after him ) did his thesis in Cambridge university that Hitlers policies were the result of " Versailles treaty " at the end of world war 1 which was a rough shod humiliation to Germany . Then who are YOU or ME or Some X to make the cost analysis as u postulated ?? Ain't it oxymoronic to fuse the Relativism & Moral judgment on ur part and pass a pontificate like " AT WHAT COST "? . | ||
| Ustad Junior Artist Username: Ustad Post Number: 46 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 66.27.194.160 Rating: N/A |
Nhil Anna, U ROCK!  | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5828 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
hitler developed germany a lottt....transport system kaani...air force kaani... but at what cost??? | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 102 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.114.115 Rating: N/A |
My argument there is good and bad in all forms of ruling....one cannot give a sweeping statemetn saying its bad cause it might fit some people ................ Ohh, Relativism aa ?? Mari monna Gandhi& Nehru 2 worldwar lo they are fighting a good cause, eye for an eye vaddu, Blind annaru Hitler chesedi kooda manchidenemo ?? why didn't they see the good in his governance ?? . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5815 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
dude I just quoted the religion issue...I dont support all aspects of china infact I argued against the human rights violation there in this DB sometimeback tibet and that muslim dominated province are not as big as wat india and other neuropeans nations are facing........ My argument there is good and bad in all forms of ruling....one cannot give a sweeping statemetn saying its bad cause it might fit some people | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 100 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.114.115 Rating: N/A |
look at china...no religion....no issues with communal tensions or terrorism.. ------------------- LOL - Even a basic cursory exam of Chinese history in last 50 Yrs debunks this myth Let me quote some basic facts 1..There is a phenomenon called Cultural revolution started by Mao http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_revolution " The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the People’s Republic of China was a struggle for power within the Communist Party of China that manifested into wide-scale social, political, and economic violence and chaos, which grew to include large sections of Chinese society and eventually brought the entire country to the brink of civil war." Estimates of the death toll, civilians and Red Guards, from various Western and Eastern sources are about 500,000 in the true years of chaos of 1966—1969. What is this ???????????? 2..What about the occupation of Tibet ?? and all those religious issues assocaited with it 3...As my friend IPC quoted what about the Muslim separatism of Uighurs in Xinjiang province ?? . | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5812 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
exactly...when it was written may be it was apt and people were in horrible conditions with no employment......may be that made sense then.... u got to revisit those rules time and again such that they can reflect and relate to current conditions | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5811 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
thats wat Iam saying dude...theres no complete freedon in anything so u cant generalize saying this is good and this is bad those sort of governances were written based on the socio economic conditions prevailing in those places in those days..... If bihar is a country and ur in bihar will u be a fool to implement democracy there???? U can think better than them so dont give them the right to chose lalooo u know wat Iam talking about??? | ||
| Ipc302 Junior Artist Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 734 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.4 Rating: N/A |
chala simple ga adigaru | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1769 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
What is your definition of freedom then | ||
| Ipc302 Junior Artist Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 733 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.4 Rating: N/A |
now u r quoting the wrong examples...what every human being needs is financial or food security or whatever...its the basic need from time immemorial or ever since we came out of the jungles.....believing that the state has to provide for us or will provide for us will never work | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1767 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
the only tension you have is dealing with government  | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5807 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
well u quoted wrong examples and wrong people.... look at china...no religion....no issues with communal tensions or terrorism...
what kind of freedom mama....I dont see any freedom in USA and India...we r living like keanu reeves in matrix....assuming its freedom.... U spend allyou life....buy a house...pay mortgage for the rest of you life and assume ur living in american dream.... u cant go buy a piece of land in india and fear no one is going to occupy it in ur own town..... Social security???what is this???aint it a communist policy??? Regarding USSR...well I dont think communism applies there as its a soveriegn of different states...the difference it too large for people to stay under one umbrella.... | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1765 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
POLITICS IS the last resort of the scoundrel’ ani GB Shaw cheppina mata kooda cheppandi | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 99 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.116.185 Rating: N/A |
Kondanna - nuvvu excite avvaku - Congress is the rot, no doubt about it - i only said the exception about Nuclear issue which is a turd blossom . LOL - people here are trying to equate the Communism with Democracy . I just quote Winston Churchill - "Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all the others" . and Also if anybody cares read Franics Fukayama who is a Jonhs Hopkins professor wrote an influential thesis called " End of the History " in which he proposed that Liberal Democracy is the end of the maturation of all governing ideologies. Communism is a dead bird - Long ago - can somebody explains who are gloating about Communism why China adapted free market economy which is the arch enemy of Communism ? LOL You have no answer i know . . | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1763 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
On a lighter vein..neeku baaga nachindi kabatti..oka 5 years saradaga undachu kada poyi China lo...maaku konni nizalu cheppochu akkadi nunchi..hoping that DB is not a banned website in China.. prapanchamloni more than 1/3rd of the sites or more are banned there..I think | ||
| Ipc302 Junior Artist Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 732 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.4 Rating: N/A |
who deicdes the right purpose...from nero to hitler to bush everyone has used this cliche to suppress the real voice of people
USSR practiced it but with no success...chechans azerbaijans everybody just broke up with USSR or trying to....look at china Uighurs in xianjiang province are the hot bed of islamic militancy....repression always breeds extremism... freedom is better than repression -simple principle | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1762 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
Only Naxalites will be ministers than... phew ..luckily we don't have TRS ruling Telangana..otherwise my above statement would have been true by now.. | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1761 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
Avunu Avunu..we need more ministers like Radhika Selvi..T.R.Baalu.. | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5805 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
dats what Iam trying to say...when man cannot see beyong god,religion or caste or sex while chosing his leader wats the point of having democracy???? Why would I want people not voting for JP and chosing some selfish leader have a right to chose their representative??? everything has flaws mama.....if not implemented properly....singling out doesnt make sense | ||
| Ipc302 Junior Artist Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 731 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.4 Rating: N/A |
well they are the beacons of the idealogy in our country and the only ones practicing it..so no harm in equating the 2 parties with their ideology | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5804 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
dude...no child is the same...some kids need spanking ...some kids need just a stare and some need a lecture...to teach manners.... same...FOr iraquees democracy aint do any good....they need a constructive monarchy....indians toooo....unfortunately.... so u cant say communism is bad....sometimes u have to sarifice ur right for a better purpose.. Imagine there is no right for religious practices.... the bright side....no terrorism no communal riots...dont u think???? | ||
| Ipc302 Junior Artist Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 730 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.4 Rating: N/A |
but out of the hundreds of countries which practice democracy a substantial number of countries do have a worthy mention in terms of sticking the basic ideology of serving the people ...its a different context when you talk about india...we are a functioning anarchy | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1760 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
Well people also get to share the blame here for electing Cartoons..If the people do not exercise their power to choose the right one..they have no right to complain.. But in the other "isms" common man does not have any say..whatsoever | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 7475 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Current Congress Party at center really good tammi.. anduke center lo congress undaale.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5802 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
LOL...democracy is too good on paper look at the leaders bush,laloo,ysr,jayalalitha  | ||
| Ntr_fan Side Hero Username: Ntr_fan Post Number: 7519 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.219.246.117 Rating: N/A |
nenu ade antunna..be more clear ani..communism ni vadilesi..cpm/cpi ni anukomani.. | ||
| Ipc302 Junior Artist Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 729 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.4 Rating: N/A |
thanks  | ||
| Ipc302 Junior Artist Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 727 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.4 Rating: N/A |
moreover communism has never been successful in protecting the rights of individuals everywhere they suppressed the basic human rights in the guise of pseudo-equality....communism is good on paper but bad when implemented(atleast thats what has been seen till now) | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1759 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
thanks..saved some keystrokes.. | ||
| Mass Side Hero Username: Mass Post Number: 3243 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 12.168.68.11 Rating: N/A |
criccu iragadesav pooo my 2 cents FROM LATE TO LATEST WE ARE NUMBER ONE | ||
| Ipc302 Junior Artist Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 726 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.82.4 Rating: N/A |
here the initiator is highlighting the case of indian politics and the blatant support given to muslims by CPM and CPI in the guise of secularism... | ||
| Ntr_fan Side Hero Username: Ntr_fan Post Number: 7517 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.219.246.117 Rating: N/A |
communism puttindi enduku annai...kadupu kali ye kada...aada puttindi kabatti..konchem ekkuva rojulu undi anthe.. meeru annattu gane communism time ayipoyindi..prastutam capitalism...future lo ento.. kani ee terrorism ni communsim ki link pettatame tappu ani cheputunna.. | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1758 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
Kaani Russia was a SuperPower for few decades..dabbulu leka kaadu kada appudu.. I honestly feel that it encourages laziness amongst human beings..since we are not all created equal.. | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1757 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
It depends on the time of history.. At each point in history..one of them was relevant...does not mean it will be relevant forever.. I am not saying Capitalism is the solution to everything either..but for now..we have no other better alternative.. | ||
| Ntr_fan Side Hero Username: Ntr_fan Post Number: 7515 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.219.246.117 Rating: N/A |
annai ippudu nee daggara dabbulu levu....job ledu anuko..appudu communism gurtukostadi..ade full ga dabuulu unnayi anuko..capitalism gurtuku vastadi.. dabulu lenappudu okalaga untadi mana mentality..dabbulu unnapuud okalaga untadi.. prapancham develop avutunna koddi..communism taggipotadi...same happened in russia..and will happen in india... | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 5796 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205 Rating: N/A |
communism,democracy,monarchy,dictator ship....all r good chaala mandhi intellectuals kalisi raasaru but implementation lopam....just like religion....it says good but no one follows it perfectly | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 98 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.116.185 Rating: N/A |
Congress Rocks!! --------------------- Kondanna I have seen something in my life that i thought i'll never see That is Nuclear deal with USA . I saw congress done the deal from the start to the end . Only good thing in its entire rotten history, in which it acted with a principled national interest at stake. Communist nitwits told that this deal is against Muslims - this is the rot i am speaking about. and again congress stood the ground which is a rare thing. So i also say Congress rocks in this issue. . | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1756 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
puttina chotane (read russia) daaniki puttagathulu levu... daanini pattukoni manamu enduku paakuladalo ardham kavatledu | ||
| Ntr_fan Side Hero Username: Ntr_fan Post Number: 7513 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.219.246.117 Rating: N/A |
aakali nunchi puttindi communism...It has nothing todo with the religions/terrorists If u want to blame some one..blame it on party's cpm/cpi..persons belong to them....not communism... | ||
| Jkm Junior Artist Username: Jkm Post Number: 925 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.235.145.222 Rating: N/A |
yes. India is not a true capitalist country. our political system was build on socialist principles. Communism and socialism together will make things worse. We don’t need communist parties. We are good with socialist principles. inaction is also an action - pvn | ||
| Savage Side Hero Username: Savage Post Number: 2318 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.53 Rating: N/A |
Modi rocks "This is a part of a conspiracy to attack India's economic centers. Therefore, these attacks on Ahmedabad and Surat. This a proxy war and unless we follow the same rules as followed during wartime, these attacks will continue" | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 7474 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.27.233.254 Rating: N/A |
Congress Rocks!!  In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Rajusk Comedian Username: Rajusk Post Number: 1755 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.254.68.165 Rating: N/A |
this is the only one that can be forced to disappear.. Unfortunately the so called Intelligent Bengali Babus and literate Kerala brothers..do not want to...not sure why though..I am waiting for the day to see the demise of Communist ideologies in India..and of course not to mention its sinister sister Maoism aka Naxalism | ||
| Nihil Junior Artist Username: Nihil Post Number: 97 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 59.93.116.185 Rating: N/A |
The 3 isms blighting India since time immemorial. Terrorism :No need to bat on this topic . Just the report in 'New york Times' that India is next only to Iraq suffering from Terrorism speak volumes about this rot . But lets dwell little more on how this Religious rot is actively supported/abetted by the media& the so called intelligentsia under the guise of Secularism & Communism and various morphologies of it. Secularism : From the moment of Direct action day by Jinnah to the partition of India on to the present day Amarnadh shrine board controversy in Kashmir, the secularists are at it actively providing the Nietzschian ideology to terrorists. Just to give a snap shot if it - Read from the famous Time mag article on Oct. 28, 1946. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,804007,00.h tml " saber-swinging mobs in the Noakhali district of east Bengal, where Moslems outnumber Hindus 5-to-1, burned, looted and massacred on a scale surpassing even the recent Calcutta riots. In eight days an estimated 5,000 were killed, with scores of Hindu girls abducted. An alarmed Mohandas K. Gandhi offered advice to the women which, for a vegetarian, seemed surprising: the only way they could avoid dishonor, he said, was to bite their tongues or hold their breath until they died.* If that would not work, he snapped, let them take poison " Our socalled Mahtma pandering to the religious fanatics under the guise of Eye for an eye or whatever that contortion that is . See the response of American Medical Association to this crap " In Chicago, the American Medical Association's quidnunctious Dr. Morris Fishbein doubted the efficacy of the Gandhi suicide technique " LOL } Communism : Another face the above thing which are still at large in India purveying the same dialectical materialism or .... . |
