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No doubt many readers are feeling some intellectual whiplash. Just the other day we were afraid of the Chinese. Now we're afraid for them. But our situation has not improved.


yeah .. why shouldnt feel happy with an imminent fall of our threatening enemy? no need to be confused about it .. we arent celebrating our poverty ..

dont u feel happy?
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todays BPCL is yesterdays' Burmah shell and HPCL yesterdays' Caltex... atleast she had a "National interest" excuse because these companies cut short fuel supplies to our armed forces during the war


yeah .. even in the case of GSPC .. Guj Gas sold part of its stake to BG Group in 1997 .. and then .. in 2012 .. they wanted to exit from that .. and Guj did not want someone from outside to make a profit on their operations and acquired it through GSPC, instead of some Adani/Torrent as you quoting .. I dont see a contradiction here .. "India's national interest" is in being able to retain the profits .. No?

btw .. as I googled on NELP - IX and I understood .. is this the failure you are referring to?


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India failed to woo global players in its oil and gas exploration licensing rounds due to its dim track record of commercial discoveries and sluggish bureaucracy. Previous licensing rounds were also dominated by Indian state-run firms. - See more at: http://businessworld.in/en/storypage/-/bw/nelp-ix-foreign-co s-give-a-miss/r396936.0/page/0#sthash.A0moqmFS.dpuf




AFAIU this issue isnt connected to GSPC acquiring BG groups' stake .. NELP - IX bids were announced in Mar 2012 itself .. while GSPC acquired only in Oct 2012 .. how can a later event influence a prior event?
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enjoy a good news ..



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No doubt many readers are feeling some intellectual whiplash. Just the other day we were afraid of the Chinese. Now we're afraid for them. But our situation has not improved.


That sums it up.
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Just look at how NELP - IX was a colossal failure and it's been two years since it happened


educate me on this .. naaku nijam ga ne .. NELP - IX failure gurinchi telidu (and more importantly the connection to GSPC acquiring)

btw .. for a min .. lets not cross swords and enjoy a good news .. :D

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-busin ess/all-the-signs-coming-from-the-economic-data-show-that-ch ina-is-in-big-trouble/articleshow/21162753.cms
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I am sure you understand the difference between "nationalization" and "acquiring private stake in a PSU".


todays BPCL is yesterdays' Burmah shell and HPCL yesterdays' Caltex... atleast she had a "National interest" excuse because these companies cut short fuel supplies to our armed forces during the war
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Tilak:

after GSPC acquiring this - Guj's biz climate is still rocking like before without much turbulence .. No?



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Just look at how NELP - IX was a colossal failure and it's been two years since it happened


It affected on a national level...
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In that case Indra Gandhi did great many good things


I am sure you understand the difference between "nationalization" and "acquiring private stake in a PSU".

After IG's nationalization - no biz investments into India for a long time .. after GSPC acquiring this - Guj's biz climate is still rocking like before without much turbulence .. No?
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for govt of Guj as well? they profited India (or Guj) by some cool 2000C by striking at the right moment? No?


In that case Indra Gandhi did great many good things
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good for India, isnt it?

I knew till here -


Absolutely not!! Please understand that when you invest in something, you would like to get the best ROI possible but when that is not allowed to happen because of governments' intervention then that leads to loss of credibility and uncertainty for future investments. Just look at how NELP - IX was a colossal failure and it's been two years since it happened
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Anyway my point is, the article you quoted is true for both central and state governments


for govt of Guj as well? they profited India (or Guj) by some cool 2000C by striking at the right moment? No?
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4500 Crore was BGs groups stake but had to sell it off for 2400 odd anukunta because of Modis' arm twisting


good for India, isnt it?

I knew till here -

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The PSUs withdrew from the consortium at the last minute apparently because the Oil Ministry under the then minister S Jaipal Reddy was wary of giving BJP-leader and Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi any kind of advantage on the eve of elections in the state, sources said.

The ministry was upset about Modi claiming credit for gas pipelines that GSPC is to lay with oil PSUs from the east coast to the west and then up to Jammu. It felt majority of the money was being put in by oil PSUs but it was Modi who was getting all the credit, they said.



http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/bg-group-sells6512 -stakegujarat-gas-to-gspc_897642.html
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Tilak:

GSPL ki Adani/Torrent ki sambandam unda? news to me .. inkoddi ga explain cheyyi ..


Adani & Torrent power were supposedly bidding quite aggressively to acquire BGs stake, 4500 Crore was BGs groups stake but had to sell it off for 2400 odd anukunta because of Modis' arm twisting and then Congress further muddled the whole deal by asking ONGC, BPCL & OIL to get out of this deal because they thought Modi will get credit. This was a very big controversy in 2011.... Anyway my point is, the article you quoted is true for both central and state governments
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The writing on the wall is clear: manufacturing in India is no longer an attractive proposition. And it has nothing to do with the economic slowdown. Raising sector caps on foreign direct investment or diluting the role of the Foreign Investment Promotion Board won't help either. The fact of the matter is that India is the wrong place to set up a manufacturing unit. A few months ago, Kumar Mangalam Birla told Bloomberg TV India that a coal mine allotted to him was taken away when the $2-billion project it was meant for was already under construction; in Brazil, in contrast, he was assured of the date of commissioning a project, down to the hour. Talk to any businessman and you will come across scores of such horror stories. The difficulties of doing business in India are enormous. If the government is really keen to revive the investment cycle in the country, it needs to fix these problems first.

The International Finance Corporation, in its Doing Business 2013 report, has ranked India 132 out of 185 countries on the ease of doing business. (The country held the same rank last year.) Its rank was 184 (same as that in 2012) in enforcing contract, 182 in dealing with construction permits (183 in 2012), 173 in starting a business (169), 152 in paying taxes (149) and 127 (125) in trading across borders. One has to go through 12 procedures to start a business in India, compared to seven in South Asia and five in OECD countries. It takes 27 days to start a business in India, 19 in South Asia and 12 in OECD countries. It is not worth recounting one more time what all is wrong; everybody across the world seems to know, except the Indian government.



nailed it anukuntunna .. kakapothe ee vishayam oppukovadaniki kuda DB "neutrals" ibbandi padatarani exfect sesinatte zarigindi ..
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KF - heights of power misuse.


agreed .. aina finance minister gaaru banks ki phone kotti .. aa paniki raani padi paisala share teesukuni loan ivvamante .. papam .. bankers em cheyyagalaru ..

Boston_baba:

DC gadu fraud chesadu...not bank's mistake. secondly, vadi properties ani japtu chesaru kada..


just procedural ga attach chesaru anthe .. when they lose that property appudu chuddam .. banks kuda thorough scrutiny lekunda loans ichesaayi ..
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whose fault?



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even mana DC garu kuda ade baapathi ..



DC gadu fraud chesadu...not bank's mistake. secondly, vadi properties ani japtu chesaru kada..
KF - heights of power misuse. company losses lo undi. still some bank came forward to give loan. some insurance company came fwd to buy some stake.
when he said bankrupt, thre is nothing that could be taken from him to recover any losses.
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Proly because of the way GSPL acquired BG groups stake in Gujarat Gas


GSPL ki Adani/Torrent ki sambandam unda? news to me .. inkoddi ga explain cheyyi ..

btw .. kinda article gurinchi no comments aa? everything is hunky/dory aa nee prakaram .. super kada ..

Boston_baba:

y because, they were able to get reliance gas, while our powerplants are struggling to get our quota.


whose fault?
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Tilak:

infra companies (Lanco/IVRCL etc) losses ki .. ee court cases ki sambandam unda?



No. kani investment climate koncham debba teestunnayi.
as reddit said, its overall infra/power sector crisis.
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gadendi vayya... profit lagada ki, loss bank ka???


ippatiki manam enni chudaaledu ..

Boston_baba:

but, i agree that, large loans given without collateral, just like kingfisher.


even mana DC garu kuda ade baapathi ..
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seriously? did you ask why?


Proly because of the way GSPL acquired BG groups stake in Gujarat Gas
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seriously? did you ask why?



y because, they were able to get reliance gas, while our powerplants are struggling to get our quota.
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vanni irikiddamani, congress is making all these industrialists scapegoats.


infra companies (Lanco/IVRCL etc) losses ki .. ee court cases ki sambandam unda?
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ala ichina loans ki .. properties tho recover chestara?



pani sakramanga jaragalanna kuda, political connections undali.. adi situation.
but, i agree that, large loans given without collateral, just like kingfisher.
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profits lo unna bank ee kada .. lagad gadiki free money ..



gadendi vayya... profit lagada ki, loss bank ka???
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but, we shud have make sure that, banks wont take these losses. why this write-off.. edaina properties lagesukovali


asalu big corporate loans raavalantene .. political connections undalsina paristhithi unte? and ala ichina loans ki .. properties tho recover chestara?
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koosantha expand seyyi ..
plz - killer evaru? political games between whom? how exactly are they killing?




annai.. meeku cheppedemundi. any project approvals, contract, even if its done in right way, politician/CM take goodwill amount. ade money ni, jagan direct ga companies lo invest cheyinchadu.
vanni irikiddamani, congress is making all these industrialists scapegoats. fine example is VANPIC.
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Adani, Jubilant power, torrent power etc... have no such issues


seriously? did you ask why?


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Government policy, if it can be called that, is to fleece its own citizens and treat them as crooks, and then prostrate in front of foreigners. And, begging with foreign entities is known as REFORM. Great!



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jagan valla irukkundi, matrix/indu/arabindo etc...
idi country wide phenomenon. highways are not profitable. IVRCL selling few highways. LAnco quitting it. power plants struggling to get gas & hence make profits...
but, we shud have make sure that, banks wont take these losses. why this write-off.. edaina properties lagesukovali
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Adani, Jubilant power, torrent power etc... have no such issues
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we are killing our entrepreneur spirit for petty political games.


koosantha expand seyyi ..
plz - killer evaru? political games between whom? how exactly are they killing?
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Corporate Debt restructuring..it was introduced a decade ago to help sick companies restructure their debt under the CDR mechanism..



sadivina... shortcut yaad raledu... very unfortunate that, we are killing our entrepreneur spirit for petty political games.
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http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/no-country- for-businessmen-113071801060_1.html
A community that can break the country is no minority - Sardar Patel

"Congress Mukt Bharat" - www.narendramodi.in
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Either way Lanco is based out in Gurgaon and GMR in Bangalore so hyd infra companies list lo raavu e rendu
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write off chestaru le .. profits lo unna bank ee kada .. lagad gadiki free money ..


If they get license for Griffin coal fields, everything will be set just like in GVKs' case
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lanco vaadu interest baakayeelu andhra bank ki few hundreds of crores inka principal kadathado ledu kuda doubte


write off chestaru le .. profits lo unna bank ee kada .. lagad gadiki free money ..
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Hyderabad


Why limit it to Hyd infra companies? It's a countrywide thing for all infra companies...
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Corporate Debt restructuring..it was introduced a decade ago to help sick companies restructure their debt under the CDR mechanism...
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indulo jagan congress ki emi sambandham

valla shakti ki minchina projects etthukunnaru cheap ga loans isthunnarani

lanco vaadu interest baakayeelu andhra bank ki few hundreds of crores inka principal kadathado ledu kuda doubte
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BTW, RAJINI the KING alludu Dhanush USA rights PAVALA kuda pettaru ... Karchulu recover chehsina movies pedhaga levu eppativaraki- Agniparvatham
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Muddamandaram:

CDR


ante endi peddayana??
Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created...
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eeee business baaasha artam chesukovali ante na vayasu entha undali muddam uncle
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hyd oka 10yrs aagadam manchidele.. middle class can catchup with boom :-)
Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created...
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Except 3 to 4 companies almost all infra comapanoes are applying for CDR with banks.

Say a big jai to Jagan as Congress has pushed the whole sector into this situation to nail Jagan anna.

Aayanni saaadhinchataaniki andarnee irikinchadam entha anyayam. Disgusting governments and disgusting opposition.

Evvaru dongatanaal ceyyaraa.

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