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Intelligent ppl are there all across the country.
But as a group ga theesukente South Indians are much more intelligent than North Indians. Balla gudhi cheputhunna.

Racist lanje kodaka kapil sibal sacchipora nuvvu.
India la theguva unna jaathulu moodu ... Sikh, Marati and Tamil. Rest mee bhayya banana ...
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Intermediate marks and normalization weightage bongu boshaanam endira lanje kodaka iit JEE lo?

Evadu decide jesthaadu ra lambdi kodaka eh state normalization ento eh state board exams toughness and eh state students group intelligence and hardwork ento.

It becomes highly subjective then lambi kodaka kapil sibal.

Racist lanje kodaka kapil sibal.
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Intermediate marks and normalization weightage bongu boshaanam endira lanje kodaka iit JEE lo?

Evadu decide jesthaadu ra lambdi kodaka eh state normalization ento eh state board exams toughness and eh state students group intelligence and hardwork.

It becomes highly subjective then lambi kodaka kapil sibal.
India la theguva unna jaathulu moodu ... Sikh, Marati and Tamil. Rest mee bhayya banana ...
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Kapil sibal racist lanje koduku

South Indians as a group are more intelligent than North Indians.
India la theguva unna jaathulu moodu ... Sikh, Marati and Tamil. Rest mee bhayya banana ...
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Bushu:

What about quality?



yeap.. edo totapuri exam la kakunda, inter kuda manchi quality maintain cheyali.
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Boston_baba:




What about quality?
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new system vs old system pros n cons vivarimpudi
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+2 syllabus in CBSE is a joke, ISCS syllabus is the toughest followed by AP state syllabbus. andulo manolu 90% techukuna don't care antunaru ante cow belt ki longipoyindi congress ani ardam, anduke ee congress ni tarimi kotali desam nunchi.
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Bushu:

even this is decided based on some exams kadhaa.



idea is to evaluate candidate based on as many tests as possible
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Saint:

how do u normalize marks between govt vs private colleges?



world is not fair bro. scholarships/fee reimbursements/ RGIIIT/ APRJC scools are all attempts to erase the gap. but, nothing is sufficient.
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Boston_baba:

here its 2yrs inter performance)




even this is decided based on some exams kadhaa. and the marks are not uniform. if a kid does not do well in math, then the avg can easily come down.

JEE apudu mental breakdown aithey, they can take it next year.
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Boston_baba:


i thought ur Q is abt normalization b/w states. if we take one state as unit, equating average marks is one fair way of normalization antunna.


how do u normalize marks between govt vs private colleges?
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Saint:

equal platform



this is utopian concept bro. rct/bala/jr lo emundani vallani adore chestunnaru.
i thought ur Q is abt normalization b/w states. if we take one state as unit, equating average marks is one fair way of normalization antunna.
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Boston_baba:


so, taking the academic record over longer tenure (here its 2yrs inter performance) into consideration, has more scientific rationale compared to sole entrance test.




andariki equal platform vunte nuvvu cheppedi correct..ippudu narayana lo chadivina vaadu vuntadu...same skill level vunnodu mattilo manikyam pakkane vunna govt college lo chaduvuthadu....inter lo marks kaneesam oka 100 anna difference vuntadi anukooo
ela equal chesthav?

oka roju bagokapotaniki ademi health kaadu..knowledge..antha acquire chesi vunte...eppudu ina ade o/p vasthadi...aa roju baledu ani anni marichipothada?
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Saint:

but inter weightage anedhi unfair....ela normalise chesthav inter score ni from various states? okasari tough paper padithe oka state vallu motham nakestharu..




paper tough, easy emundi annai... avg marks of all states ni equalize chesi normalize cheste sari.
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Dada:

So leave out the Inter marks and just have an entrance exam stretching over 3 days - which is analytic and mostly problem solving oriented plus has a bit of multiple choice as well.




outliars eppudu untayi. its near to impossible to judge abilities based on single test/interview etc... his day could be bad... someone might be going thru bad phase.
so, taking the academic record over longer tenure (here its 2yrs inter performance) into consideration, has more scientific rationale compared to sole entrance test.
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Saint:

IIT/BITS lo most of the crap mana state nunche elledi....appatlo mana vignan batch ni venakki pamparu ane news kooda vachindi..mana AP valla debbaki tattukoleka entrace ettadu..




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AP lo ippudu inter lo 90% anedhi pedda joke....pretty avg students kooda 90% above techukuntunnaru...

but inter weightage anedhi unfair....ela normalise chesthav inter score ni from various states? okasari tough paper padithe oka state vallu motham nakestharu....exam kooda multiple choice vundakudadu...

IIT/BITS lo most of the crap mana state nunche elledi....appatlo mana vignan batch ni venakki pamparu ane news kooda vachindi..mana AP valla debbaki tattukoleka entrace ettadu....
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Is this change a case of north india subjugating the south? :-)
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Boston_baba:




If the exercise is to get the best - So be it - But then there are cases where genuine people might lose out because the cut off for them is very high.
So leave out the Inter marks and just have an entrance exam stretching over 3 days - which is analytic and mostly problem solving oriented plus has a bit of multiple choice as well.
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Government should setup separate colleges for minorities and they should leave other institutions for merit alone.
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inkaa full terms n conditions chadivite opinion change avvochemo gani , new admission system sounds reasonable to some extent

but obviously telugu mills products ki IIT quota taggutundhi anedhi nijame but somewhere new system sounds ok
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Congress ki vote vesina prathi telugu vadu sacchipondi

Happy Screwing to AP Students, who gave 33 MP seats to Congress. Merit ni jagarthaga Region wise ga kuda ‘M’ chesthunnaru ga Congress vallu. Stte ni M chesi, ippudu students ni kuda......Congress ki vote vesina prathi vadu velli YSR/Sonai dhi..............

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Sandipus:

normalising is a good thing



If we have to normalize, then we need to examine the candidates on same scale.
For Ex: Normalizing ani US students and Indian students and Africa students score percentile teesukuni UK lo admission isthara? So Inter marks consider cheyyadame pedda thappu. Marla ila percentile teesuku ravadam inka too much!
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Dada:

Instead - why were the Inter marks considered in the first place? :-)
Just have a common exam like the way it used to be....



initially, with prelims & mains, IIT always used to attract & choose bright & right talent. later, they changed to only prelims (multiple choice), which hampered sheen of IIT. lot of crap entered into IIT schools. needless to say, most of the these undeserving lot if from AP. above observation is reinforced by various studies abt quality of students at IITs.
whether we agree or not.. our scores are much higher than other states.
if we normalize these inter scores & decide the merit based on common exam (which is the case now), i see the process as transparent as it can....
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Sandipus:

I can see a lot of students going to other states for inter education




And raise the percentile for that state??? :-)
But neighbouring TN and Karnataka also have a good percentile - Orissa, WB, Jharkand and Chattisgarh have very low cut off...UP, rajastan,haryana,Gujarat etc come next....
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Dada:

In effect we are penalizing the state where a lot of students get more than 90% in Inter...




I can see a lot of students going to other states for inter education
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IIT lo thakkuva marks vacchi West bengal lo Inter chesi 70% vasthe - he has better chances than some one who might get better marks in IIT from AP and get 90% in Inter.
The second person will never get into IIT....
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In effect we are penalizing the state where a lot of students get more than 90% in Inter....
Some of them might have mugged up and read only the guides - but the others are losing out in the process.....even genuine ones
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Sandipus:

lot of mediocre people in AP are getting into top 20 in inter who cannot crack IIT mains

our Narayana Inter coaching helps people score heavily in inter I guess




I agree - but there are equally good students who are losing out.
For e.g. some one who has done very well from AP in the IIT exam but has got 90% in Inter - compared to someone who has not done so well in the IIT exam and got 75% in Inter from UP....
the second student is getting admitted.

Instead - why were the Inter marks considered in the first place? :-)
Just have a common exam like the way it used to be.....
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Dada:

But how does this normalization happen?




look at the problem from this angle

A student is not eligible for IIT admission if he is not in the top 20 percentile in his own state.

lot of mediocre people in AP are getting into top 20 in inter who cannot crack IIT mains

our Narayana Inter coaching helps people score heavily in inter I guess
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What is ultimately happening is someone with low B1 (at an India level) but very high B2 (state board level) and decent marks in IIT can still make it whereas some one with high B1 and a lower B2 and equal amount of marks in IIT cannot make it to the IIT...

It is the nation's loss if bright students do not make it to the IITs
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Has anyone understood this?

Determine the JEE Main aggregate marks corresponding to percentile (P) at the All- India level. We call this B1.

Also, determine the JEE Main aggregate marks corresponding to percentile (P) among the set of aggregate scores obtained in the JEE- Main by the students of that board. We call this B2.

The normalized board score of the candidate will be computed as: B = 0.5 X (B1 + B2)

This is how normalization is being done to compute the 40% marks i.e. board marks
How is this being calculated?
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Sandipus:

90% score in AP is equal to 60% score in other states




On what basis has someone reached this conclusion?
I do not want to discuss about Congress / BJP etc etc in this thread as I do not see any relation on this issue.

But how does this normalization happen?

if there are more number of students getting more than 90% in AP - so be it. And qualitatively the syllabus is also better in AP and TN compared to the North Indian states.
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90% score in AP is equal to 60% score in other states
we have astonishingly high scores in inter.

normalising is a good thing
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Dma:

donga exams raayinchi



konsem ivarimpudi..
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I think percentile is a good measure - to get equal opportunity to all states.

otherwise, mana schools lo donga exams raayinchi desam lo vunna anni seats dobbestham ante elaa?
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part 2
http://epaper.andhrajyothy.com/PUBLICATIONS/AJ/AJYOTHI/2013/ 07/09/Article//002/09_07_2013_002_021.jpg
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the benefit of Voting state and center and giving max MP seats congress ...
fking with ap left right top bottom recently in Medicine seats also ap is middle fingered
baaga doola teerinda Congress ni ap lo ettukoni 9 yrs ...inka 5 yrs ivvandi
YSRCP & TRS ki esi ...


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