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Saarang
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Pacers ki stars dorikessaru choosava?
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yendi vayya... Duncan kosam tanking sesina SPURS gurinchi intha disco na
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also one thing spurs were not able to do is to repeat the championship run like the way Lakers or Chicago or Detroit did.. basically they are not a dynasty..




Lot more harder for Spurs to repeat. All 6 of Bulls championships are with Jordan considered to be greatest NBA player ever. After Jordan left, Bulls rarely made any impact. They missed play-offs for several years. Lakers are the premier franchise with a huge market, Hollywood and ownership that is always willing to spend. Pistons have only 3 championships: 1989, 1990, 2004. Detroit used to be one of the biggest media markets...not anymore. So, I think it will be hard for them to attract big names.

Even with a superstar, its hard to make play-offs every year. Players like Kobe, Wade missed play-offs after winning championships.
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SPURS organization is a superb example of management


spurs had a bit of luck with draft in 1997 and they were lucky to pick up Timmy. When you have a superstar it probably is easy to put supporting cast around him and that's what spurs did since drafting Duncan. We have to see how spurs will be able to continue after Duncan is all set and done.. will they be able to pick up another duncan etc anedhi important... I think lakers have the best management team and they always picked up super talent either through draft picks (kobe, kareem etc) or by virtue of trades (shaq, gasol etc) and successfully rebuild the team after a superstar left..

also one thing spurs were not able to do is to repeat the championship run like the way Lakers or Chicago or Detroit did.. basically they are not a dynasty..

i am hoping that they will win this year.. Miami is not an easy team to be beat 4 times in a series, lets see
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Saarang,
SPURS organization is a superb example of management - with all their constraints and churn, it is the system put in place by Popovich and co that is the x-factor though Pop self- effacingly said "if you had Duncan and Robinson - your system would work too " great players don't necessarily make great teams and as you listed so many have learned from the system .. I for one think what makes the team great is more than the skill of the trio - it is the groundrules and leadership of Pop and Duncan - hard to imagine the Spurs without them :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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nobody expected prince to be this weak this season...mari antha weak ga aduthadu offensivley ani..

ippudu season ayipoyindi kabatti jarigindi analysis cheshi chepotchu easy ga bad ani...kaani before cheppadam kastam...




His decline started atleast 4 years back. He was offensively very bad even in a Detroit team with very limited offensive options. Look at Hollinger's famous player efficinency rating (PER) for Prince. This is Hollinger's single biggest contribution to Basketball and in my view the single most important statistic to consider a player's worth. Any player below 15 is bad and Prince has been much below 15 for the last 4 years. Detroit were considering amnesty on Prince.
Calderon consitently has a PER of 18+

PER is given under advanced statistics in the link below:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/princta01.html

Reagarding Calderon at SG....that is called managing gaurd rotations. Calderon, Conoley and Allen can play 30+ minutes each. Why was Harden coming of the bench in OKC behind Sefalosha ....same philosphy...you want to have good offensive players on court all the time...so you spread their minutes. So, when Conoley rests you have Calderon+Tony Allen, when Tony Allen rests you have Conoley+Calderon.
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Saarang:

Calderon is very good player on last year of his deal...Prince below average player with 3 years left.




nobody expected prince to be this weak this season...mari antha weak ga aduthadu offensivley ani..

ippudu season ayipoyindi kabatti jarigindi analysis cheshi chepotchu easy ga bad ani...kaani before cheppadam kastam...

okavela meeru anantu conley at PG and colderon at SG adisthe tony allen gadini ekkada adisthavu..he is one of the best defender in NBA....
Hmmm....
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Npa:

But, they made a couple of dumb moves like flipping Jose Calderon for Taushan Prince

already conley unnad kada,,,malla calderon enduk same position ki...




They badly need peri-meter shooters...Calderon can play SG. Ee rojullo NBA lo poistions have become flexible. Calderon shot at 46% from 3 point range. They also gave up shooter Wayne Ellington just before they did the Rudy Gay trade.

Calderon is very good player on last year of his deal...Prince below average player with 3 years left...so bad contract. I think they could have got a much better player than Prince for Calderon. They will be struck with Prince for next 2 years. Detroit did not even get back a SF when they gave away Prince.
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But, they made a couple of dumb moves like flipping Jose Calderon for Taushan Prince




already conley unnad kada,,,malla calderon enduk same position ki...
Hmmm....
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Npa:

naaku john hollinger gaani laaga sports analysis masth istam...data mining sesi patterns ni baitiki teesthan...

okanoka time lo patrick ewing meeda oka data anlyst gaadu analysis chesi if ewing went left he shot the ball well x% better than ging to the right ani oka pattern baitiki testhe, opposing coaches used this to game plan against him..

ala neevu GM ayithe naaku oka data mining analyst position kavali...




Yeah...next big thing in NBA is going to be data analytics. Ee saari Lakers were the only team that did not attend MIT Sloan conference.

Sam Hinkie gurinchi 2008 lo article...oka 2 weeks back he became 76ers GM.
http://newsok.com/nba-number-crunchbrspan-classhl2how-oklaho man-uses-stats-not-found-in-the-box-scorespan/article/323274 7

I think Hollinger will build a great team. He was responsible for day-light robbery on Tornto Raptors in Rudy Gay trade. But, they made a couple of dumb moves like flipping Jose Calderon for Taushan Prince and not retaining OJ Mayo.

http://www.3sob.com/may-2013/do-you-remember-the-jewel-of-th e-rudy-gay-trade/7957/
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Saarang:

...so may be I will have a chance someday




naaku john hollinger gaani laaga sports analysis masth istam...data mining sesi patterns ni baitiki teesthan...

okanoka time lo patrick ewing meeda oka data anlyst gaadu analysis chesi if ewing went left he shot the ball well x% better than ging to the right ani oka pattern baitiki testhe, opposing coaches used this to game plan against him..

ala neevu GM ayithe naaku oka data mining analyst position kavali...
Hmmm....
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Blackmamba:

intha mandi nba fans unnra db lo




Naakayithe baagae craze...free agency, draft and trades more than the game itself. Eppatikayina front-office role is a dream. Asallu...Basketball background leni vallu...ippudu GMs avutunnaru.
Examples:
Daryl Morey: present Rockets GM
Sam Hinkie: presnt 76ers GM
John Hollinger: present VP of Basketball Operations at Grizzles

Inka low levels lo kuppala mandhi. MBA Alumni dwaara konni connections pattanu
...so may be I will have a chance someday

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robert horry laga yee year finals lo zeehadh ga evarini niyamincharu...
Hmmm....
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Blackmamba:

Consecutive play-off appearances record by team:

idi active streak kadaa.. not all time




Yeah...all time kooda kinda undhi.Paatha rojullo Lakers, Celtics and 76ers kummesavaaru...less competition at that time. Ippudu there are many self made Billionaires that own NBA teams that are really smart and luxury taxes started around 2000. So oka saari champioship gelvagaane, pay-rolls get out of control and teams have to pay steep luxury taxes. Miami will soon get affected by this....OKC (Harden) and Dallas meedha already padinidhi (Chandler & Terry).
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Saarang:

Consecutive play-off appearances record by team:


idi active streak kadaa.. not all time
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Consecutive play-off appearances record by team:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_franchise_post-seas on_streaks
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intha mandi nba fans unnra db lo
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Saarang:

Doubtee..vacchevaru kadu. You need to understand a lot of NBA details to understand it is hard for a team to consistently enter finals. Reasons:
1) Its very tough to keep entering finals for long strtches of time (or even playoffs). No team does it more consistently than them. Eppudu ravaali ante mighathe 29 teams total ga erri pappalu avvali. NBA draft is designed to constantly improve the bottom teams and weaken the strong teams. They have the longest active streak of consecutive play-offs. No team even comes close to them.
2) One of the smallest media markets...so financially very weak. If they can spend like Knicks or Lakers, ekkado undevallu.

They always get picks like 26-30 (first round) & 56-60 (second round). They never never attracted a big name free agent in the last 10 years. Even Ginobli (57 th pick), Parker (28th pick), Splitter (28th pick), Gary Neal (undrafted).
So no good draft picks + no free agents tho Spurs level lo team build cheyyatam ante...next to impossible task. And other teams constantly keep poaching their talent. Ee year kooda already Atlanata vallu oka coach ni pattikelli poyaaru.




NBA draft is really really top heavy...Spurs never had a good pick after they got Duncan. Second round picks rarely become NBA bench players...very very rarley become starters. Ginobli is probably the biggest NBA star that is drafted in the second round. All 30 teams will have to fail in identifying your talent for that happen.
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Banam:

Lol... Appudu kodithe ippudu kottakodadhu ani rule vundha enti... Every player learns from his past experience...


No rule like that.

Banam:



Ayina westbrook vunte kottevaala ani logic techindhi neevu..


nenu ayana version adiganu saami....nuvvu oogipoku...Am not spurs hater...
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Btw Derrick rose and bulls team fit ga vunnapudu 4-1 kottam playoffs lo...aa season roase MVP kuda...come with another logic ya..>>>>
Lol... Appudu kodithe ippudu kottakodadhu ani rule vundha enti... Every player learns from his past experience...

Inbetween memphis grizzlies kooda spurs ni 2011 lo kottaru.. Ippudu vongoledha... Appudu zebo and marc ippudu vunantha form lo kooda leru and Spurs is no 1 seed at that time..


Ayina westbrook vunte kottevaala ani logic techindhi neevu... Spurs is an organization that has drafted and developed the players.... Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi, splitter etc etc... Oka team lo ring dobbaleka vere teams ki velli rings dobbatalla...andhuke coaches and front office ki antha demand....hehe :D
Buduguu, Coolmec and Rajesh Sowjanyam tho memu kooda :D clipart use cheyatam start chesam... Yes Its official....
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Ntr_rocks:



Nevu chepedhi ela vundhi ante Derrick rose, henrich, dang vundhi vunte Heat vongunedhi annatu vundhi... Heat asalu ikkada daaka vache vaalu kaadhu emo

vuncle, nenu adigindi question...not satire..

Btw Derrick rose and bulls team fit ga vunnapudu 4-1 kottam playoffs lo...aa season roase MVP kuda...come with another logic ya




Simple question: show me a better team than Spurs in last 20 year. Nobody even comes close...not even the big market teams. Adhe lakers ayithe...oka year miss ayithe they purchase a star and improve instantly. Knicks ayithe they will purchase 2 stars but still continue to fail.
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Ntr_rocks:

Vuncle...

2007 nunchi ipati daaka 5 seasons finals ki enduku raleka poyindi ??

Westbrook vundi vunte ee season finals ki vache vaara ??






Doubtee..vacchevaru kadu. You need to understand a lot of NBA details to understand it is hard for a team to consistently enter finals. Reasons:
1) Its very tough to keep entering finals for long strtches of time (or even playoffs). No team does it more consistently than them. Eppudu ravaali ante mighathe 29 teams total ga erri pappalu avvali. NBA draft is designed to constantly improve the bottom teams and weaken the strong teams. They have the longest active streak of consecutive play-offs. No team even comes close to them.
2) One of the smallest media markets...so financially very weak. If they can spend like Knicks or Lakers, ekkado undevallu.

They always get picks like 26-30 (first round) & 56-60 (second round). They never never attracted a big name free agent in the last 10 years. Even Ginobli (57 th pick), Parker (28th pick), Splitter (28th pick), Gary Neal (undrafted).
So no good draft picks + no free agents tho Spurs level lo team build cheyyatam ante...next to impossible task. And other teams constantly keep poaching their talent. Ee year kooda already Atlanata vallu oka coach ni pattikelli poyaaru.
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Nevu chepedhi ela vundhi ante Derrick rose, henrich, dang vundhi vunte Heat vongunedhi annatu vundhi... Heat asalu ikkada daaka vache vaalu kaadhu emo




vuncle, nenu adigindi question...not satire..

Btw Derrick rose and bulls team fit ga vunnapudu 4-1 kottam playoffs lo...aa season roase MVP kuda...come with another logic ya..:-)
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Vuncle...

2007 nunchi ipati daaka 5 seasons finals ki enduku raleka poyindi ??

Westbrook vundi vunte ee season finals ki vache vaara ?? >>>

Definite ga vache vaalamu... Last year 2 games kottamu.. Next 4 games lo straight vodipoyamu... At that time Kawhi and danny green 1st year playoff players... Splitter not playing as good as this year... Basically last year playoffs experience nunchi we learnt and we won....

Nevu chepedhi ela vundhi ante Derrick rose, henrich, dang vundhi vunte Heat vongunedhi annatu vundhi... Heat asalu ikkada daaka vache vaalu kaadhu emo...
Buduguu, Coolmec and Rajesh Sowjanyam tho memu kooda :D clipart use cheyatam start chesam... Yes Its official....
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List of Head Coaches who have worked as assistants at San Antonio Spurs

Mike Brown: Current coach of Cleveland Cavaliers
Jacque Vaughn: Current coach of Orlando Magic
P. J. Carlesimo: Coach of Brookly Nets until April 2013
Mike Budenholzer: Current coach of Atlanta Hawks
George Karl: Current coach of Denver Nuggets (played all his career at Spurs)
Tom Thibodeau: Current coach of Chicago Bulls

This list is endless if you include past head coaches as well.
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Vuncle...

2007 nunchi ipati daaka 5 seasons finals ki enduku raleka poyindi ??

Westbrook vundi vunte ee season finals ki vache vaara ??
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Current GMs with past affiliation to Spurs: (added one more name to the list).

Dennis Lindsey: Current GM of Utah Jazz
Danny Ferry: Current GM of Atlanta Hawks
Sam Presti: Current GM of OKC Thunder (* see below)
Kevin Pritchard: Current GM of Pacers
Dell Demps: Current GM of Hornets
Rob Hennigan: Current GM of Orlando Magic
Lance Blanks: GM of Phoenix Suns until April 2013

Inka kooda unde untaaru...naaku telisinavallu veelu.
*Slowly students of Sam Presti are also getting prominent front office positions in other franchises.

List of Head Coaches with past ties to Spurs in next post.
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Current GMs with past affiliation to Spurs:

Danny Ferry: Current GM of Atlanta Hawks
Sam Presti: Current GM of OKC Thunder (* see below)
Kevin Pritchard: Current GM of Pacers
Dell Demps: Current GM of Hornets
Rob Hennigan: Current GM of Orlando Magic
Lance Blanks: GM of Phoenix Suns until April 2013

Inka kooda unde untaaru...naaku telisinavallu veelu.
*Slowly students of Sam Presti are also getting prominent front office positions in other franchises.

List of Head Coaches with past ties to Spurs in next post.

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