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Lost enti vaadi bondha.... inkaa ikkada andharooo subbharam gaa vaadathaaraithe subhakaaryaalaki...

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bhayya, how are you? long time tharuvaatha vaccharu DB ki?
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Those Ajanta paintings look more like Dravidian chopras to me.
But you r right . India has a large substratum of australoid chopras
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telagana forum lo deeni meeda manchi article icharu evaro. read it.
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{nee bonda nee bondaa}
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Anand_n:

Do Zoroastrians use coconut in rituals - I don't think they do


They do use coconuts and grains of rice during their Navjyot and wedding Ceremonies In Iran.
http://hindubooks.org/sudheer_birodkar/hindu_history/zoroast rianism.html
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Qdoba:

Aryans brought coconuts along with them from the MiddleEast


Do Zoroastrians use coconut in rituals - I don't think they do - but I may be wrong :-)Why not from Mangalore to Gujarat to Lothal by ship ?:-)


Iamim:

Surely indigenous influence..




Mental_sachinodu:


idhi answer cheyatam kashtam emo..



I guess I was looking for scriptural trace -where the oldest reference to coconuts in ritual occurs ...no big deal, just thought I'd ask :-)

Have fun breaking your heads over the coconuts - I have go celebrate the Aryan festival Holi :-)

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The logic behind Coconut and other fruits is which are offered to god is that, SEEDS tho generate ayye vi nishiddhamu.

it seems one whose born out of seeds is not pure and it carries purva vasana(its like rebirth).

coconut is not generated from seed and also few fruits which are not generated from seed, avi offerings ki manchidhi ani sastram lo cheppa badinadhi
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when and how did coconuts get such a prominent place in Hindu rituals - monna temple lo kobbarikayi kodutunte doubt vachindi- himalayas/Indus valley lo kobbarikaylu undavu kada


In the past, Aryans brought coconuts along with them from the Middle East and traded them in India. They were used for the Vedic Rituals performed by the Aryan gurus.
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Anand_n:

Off topic - but serious question- mee satires pakkan petti teliste cheppandi - when and how did coconuts get such a prominent place in Hindu rituals - monna temple lo kobbarikayi kodutunte doubt vachindi- himalayas/Indus valley lo kobbarikaylu undavu kada ni :-)Gudi lo devotion badulu ilanti doubts enduku vastayi ani adagakandi :-)




Surely indigenous influence..
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Anand_n:

when




idhi answer cheyatam kashtam emo..

how ki palu rakaala stories or descirptions unnayi. like the three layers indicate three states of human, or the three eyes represent creation, preservation, and dissolution.

veeti lo dheniki etha singificance undhi,purannaallo anedhi no idea
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Anand_n:

when and how did coconuts get such a prominent place in Hindu rituals - monna temple lo kobbarikayi kodutunte doubt vachindi- himalayas/Indus valley lo kobbarikaylu undavu kada ni Gudi lo devotion badulu ilanti doubts enduku vastayi ani adagakandi



another case in point to prove that vedas weren't outsourced to India rather was born and brought up here :D

anyway seriously.... leaving for the day now :D
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Last time ee disco ayinappudu meeru chepparu ammayi aryan nose chusi pelli chesukunnanu ani




meeku anni bagane gurthuntai.. yeah.. aquiline hawk nose.. hazel eyes..
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aryans were aliens, who vacationed for a while on earth. they will be back again. appudu ithaade
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Off topic - but serious question- mee satires pakkan petti teliste cheppandi - when and how did coconuts get such a prominent place in Hindu rituals - monna temple lo kobbarikayi kodutunte doubt vachindi- himalayas/Indus valley lo kobbarikaylu undavu kada ni :-)Gudi lo devotion badulu ilanti doubts enduku vastayi ani adagakandi :-)

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Aryans were by nature kind.. noble.. gentle.. philosophical.. spiritual..


how good of them, entha manchollo kadaaa.....

Iamim:

but Aryans succeeded in spreading their civilization to every nook and corner.. penetrating their culture to every jati..



adenti mari thread initiator emo their culture was lost as they got brainwashed by the defeated dravids antadu :D too confusing... ok let me take a break here and ponder over it in my deep sleep :D
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Thikka_sankara:

yeah possible, but, back then, especially with invading armies, the norm is, to totally destruct, loot and convert the other side,




Aryans were by nature kind.. noble.. gentle.. philosophical.. spiritual.. India is too vast and diverse for anyone to destroy.. but Aryans succeeded in spreading their civilization to every nook and corner.. penetrating their culture to every jati..
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muyyii guptaa muyyii.....mooseyyiii..enduk cheptunanoo artham cheskooo



aayana chetha normuyinchaalante meer aayana chethi lo odi poyi undaali.... :D thats the new law :D
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First thing people wonder about kids.. amma polika.. naanna polika.. yeah that way we can conclude..




Last time ee disco ayinappudu meeru chepparu ammayi aryan nose chusi pelli chesukunnanu ani

I am talking about practices not people though :-) I just think we have not heard the last of this whole controversy...more finds may change what we think again:-)

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Qdoba:

Or for example, the Hunas, who once advanced as far into INdia as Malwa in Central India. They were also Caucasoids (non-Aryan) and are even mentioned in many Hindu puranas. In fact, most of the Kashmiris are descendants of these Hunas and are the only Indian ethnic group who are more than 90% Caucasians.




I guess Huns are more like Mongoloid rather than Caucasoid..
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muyyii guptaa muyyii.....mooseyyiii..enduk cheptunanoo artham cheskooo
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oppressed/oppressor/brainwashed...Word semantics pakkana petti alochiste - people who migrate to or even invade a new land enforce some of their culture , absorb some of the existing culture because it works locally ...over a period what you have is a blend ...centuries later can you completely identify which part came from where anedi na point




yeah possible, but, back then, especially with invading armies, the norm is, to totally destruct, loot and convert the other side, which has lost. Arabic rulers invade chesinappudu India lo Islam propogate ayyindi, not the other way round, rule chesina akbar and aurangazeb ni manam convert cheyyaledu (which was the point of qdoba, that I'm objecting to :D) similarly, when europeans invaded christianity propogated in India, not the other way round, europeans haven't lost their religion
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centuries later can you completely identify which part came from where anedi na point :-)




First thing people wonder about kids.. amma polika.. naanna polika.. yeah that way we can conclude..
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Painting lo konchem weak anukunta..




Agree - I did not get what he was trying to say either :-)

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Qdoba:

You can see how Aryans painted princes/ruling classes in Ajanta caves.




Painting lo konchem weak anukunta..
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Thikka_sankara:

oppressors beliefs eee antha dilute aipothe, is there a chance for beliefs of the oppressed to survive? and the point is that the oppressors are brainwashed, whereas you are talking about blending of cultures!




oppressed/oppressor/brainwashed...Word semantics pakkana petti alochiste - people who migrate to or even invade a new land enforce some of their culture , absorb some of the existing culture because it works locally ...over a period what you have is a blend ...centuries later can you completely identify which part came from where anedi na point :-)

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You can see how Aryans painted princes/ruling classes in Ajanta caves.

http://i.imgur.com/Lm0jDWr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/m167rxZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oVlmKI8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kJMUp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/R4fQZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Df8Ay.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4WYeuD9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/x8PDt5s.jpg
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Though it sounds weird , it is in the realm of the possible kada...oppressor/oppressed cultures/practices blend ayipoyaka it is difficult to separate where something originated and it becomes a matter of pride - most people will not entertain the idea that vedic religion or sanskrit originated outside India as we know it today



oppressors beliefs eee antha dilute aipothe, is there a chance for beliefs of the oppressed to survive? and the point is that the oppressors are brainwashed, whereas you are talking about blending of cultures!
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Oath of the Vayuputras chadavandi - inkonni theories ideas vastayi :-)


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the oppressed have suppressed the beliefs of the oppressors annamaataa .... kevv kekaaaa naaa saami rangaa.... supeeer theory




Though it sounds weird , it is in the realm of the possible kada...oppressor/oppressed cultures/practices blend ayipoyaka it is difficult to separate where something originated and it becomes a matter of pride - most people will not entertain the idea that vedic religion or sanskrit originated outside India as we know it today :-)

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Iran is about 1 hour away from Delhi by flight (look up at the world map) where as it takes more than twice that much time to reach Bangalore (Southern India) or Calcutta (East India). Considering the topology of the region, one would actually need proof for the argument that no migrations happened between Iran and Northern India in the last 3000 years, than to prove that migrations happened. India did not have a Great Wall like China, and even Great Wall did not save the Chinese from being invaded by the Mongols and Manchus in the medieval times.

The only reason Indians are related to each other genetically is because majority of the Indian population is based on the substratum of the Austroasiatic race - which you may not accept (because you perceive them as a primitive people compared to the Hindu Aryans). They were known as Cheras down in Kerala and were even known as far up North as the Himalayas. Tulu language of Mangalore shows heavy influence from Austroasiatic languages (many Munda words in it). Also, not all Austroasiatic people were forest tribes. Just like how the Incas and Mayas were more civilized in South America than many primitive tribes inhabiting dense secluded forests, despite being of the same "race", in the same way there were Austroasiatic people who were secluded from their urban counterparts who eventually adopted the Aryan culture and lost their original identity. That is why majority of the Indians are not Caucasoids but still identify themselves with various Hindu castes.


Take the example of the Jats who form about 30-40% population of States like Haryana, Punjab and Rajasthan. They are primarily Caucasians with some admixture with the native Indian populations and they are the same people who were known as "Sakas" (Indo-Scythians). Or for example, the Hunas, who once advanced as far into INdia as Malwa in Central India. They were also Caucasoids (non-Aryan) and are even mentioned in many Hindu puranas. In fact, most of the Kashmiris are descendants of these Hunas and are the only Indian ethnic group who are more than 90% Caucasians. Rajtarangini by Kalhana also makes the mention of Hunas in Kashmiri. There is also a purana which mentions a Central Indian king's visit to "Hunapradesh" (Huna country) in the Himalayas, which is the same as present day Kashmir. So my point is, millions of Indians who have the highest Caucasian influences, are not the descendants of Indo-Aryans.


And, of course, the purest Aryans and one of the most Caucasoid groups in India today are the Parsis (Zoroastrians) who are a very affluent community compared to other INdians in a specially racist society.
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kahaanke number ones... attack chesi odinchi.... odipoina valla chethilo brainwash chesukuni valla religion marchi poyaaranta... inkem lember one???
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aryans

From Delhi, Via Mudinepalli
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Qdoba:

For several 1000's of years, Aryan Hindus have been brainwashed by Dravidian tribes to forget about the Hindu religion imported from Western World.




the oppressed have suppressed the beliefs of the oppressors annamaataa .... kevv kekaaaa naaa saami rangaa.... supeeer theory :D
Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi
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For several 1000's of years, Aryan Hindus have been brainwashed by Dravidian tribes to forget about the Hindu religion imported from Western World.
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Qdoba:

in Europe and India



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hidden by elites/free masons.



Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi
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Seinfeld:

kakapoteh author gadini nammocha


Author has a degree in journalism from NY school. He spent 15 years in Europe and India to study the 'sacred science' hidden by elites/free masons.

veedini nammakunte inka evarini nammalem.
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Iamim:

Yeah.. Hinduism is the only salvation for mankind...


you mean thisssss....


Salvation for a Hindu is called Moksha. Moksha is when an enlightened human being is freed from the cycle of life-and-death (the endless cycle of death and reincarnation) and comes into a state of completeness. He then becomes one with God.

There are four ways to Moksha:

1. The Way of Action: This involves carrying out certain religious ceremonies, duties and rites. The objective is to perform works without regard for personal gain.

2. The Way of Knowledge: This requires using your mind and philosophy to come to a complete comprehension of the universe.

3. The Way of Devotion: Salvation is reached through acts of worship, based upon the love for a God (there are thousands of gods in Hinduism).

4.The Royal Road: The use of meditation and yoga techniques. This method of reaching salvation is typically only used by wandering monks.

Each of these ways to salvation in Hinduism requires that a person do certain things. Salvation is through what a Hindu does. It is through human works.
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Thikka_sankara:

nuvvundaga lost history elaaa avuthundi


lol...good one...may be ash baa ki thanu pseudo aryan ani thelsipoyindemo
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Yeah.. Hinduism is the only salvation for mankind...
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Thikka_sankara:

nuvvundaga lost history elaaa avuthundi






The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Qdoba:

lost history of the aryan race



nuvvundaga lost history elaaa avuthundi :D
Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi
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interesting read anukunta.. kakapoteh author gadini nammocha
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http://www.richardcassaro.com/the-ancient-secret-of-the-swas tika-the-hidden-history-of-the-white-race-p-1-of-2
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