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     Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 5299 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 184.148.156.174 Rating: N/A |
adey benefit of doubt ivvochchu........and may be some people inspired anukovachchu.........although we cant really evaluate the consequences of soul buying using money/power and providing necessities........ but migathaa daridraanni, like financial irregularities ni boothulu tittachchemo........antha exemption endukani?....... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 5298 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 184.148.156.174 Rating: N/A |
Terese ni Saint cheyyalaa?........Anil babu ni koodaa sesthaaru......aallu anyaayam sese rakam kaadu aa vishayam lo.........Nobel ippinchinaa ippinchesthaaru....... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 5297 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 184.148.156.174 Rating: N/A |
antey mari alaa kalisindi raagam thread lo.....only TTs chinchesukuntunnaaru questioning her.........hehe...
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| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 7012 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 70.198.1.157 Rating: N/A |
enti bro gadiki daktraate ippinchava | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 7011 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 70.198.1.157 Rating: N/A |
chesthe chesindi levaya conversions...kathi petti chesindaa gun petti chesindaa....aakalithoo maaduthunnavadiki annam petti chesindi...pedha thappu emii kaadu leyy...morals ethics ani donkey egg meeda hairs peekalsina pani ledu.....vaallu kushtu rogulni saakevallu...manam chesthama? mundu pachigaa dabbu aasa choopi state ni penta chestunna bro anil gadi lanti vallameedha padandi | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23688 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: |
lol ... endi ippudu ikkada iddaru TDP fanms support chestunnaru ani oppose chestunnattunnav chustunte... self respect gurinchi nuvve cheppali mari, | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 5296 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 184.148.156.174 Rating: N/A |
Bro Anil.... | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23687 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: |
aame ki kuda gudi katti oka gang ni petti unte bagundedi kadaa | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 5295 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 184.148.156.174 Rating: |
ejjatly.........if it is a personal issue..........ok anukovachchu.......... she is famous for her service.......and it cannot be questioned antey?.........politicians politics ni question cheyyoddu annattu......... asalu the very idea that she can treat people only after conversions is sad.........in that soulless work, the spirit of humanity and helping others has taken a backseat..........and applying the law of unintended consequences, it probably did more harm than help....in the way, soul harvesting is flesh trade and many more like Dr. Anil got inspired......... although some people wanna give her the benefit of doubt that she inspired others to help........it is ridiculous to say nobody can talk about those atrocities....... Rowdy, TDP cherithey cheraavu.........save urself from communist crap.......they live a lying life...... | ||
| Emc2 Hero Username: Emc2 Post Number: 11244 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.246.229.243 Rating: N/A |
aame unconditional seva chesi unte aameni eeroju devatha/devudu ga kolichevaru.. aameki kuda oka jenda ejanda undi,adi follow ayindi,so adi thppu emo ani naku anipisthundi.. aame chesina sevaki aame great.. cherapakura chedevu. | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23686 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: N/A |
 ... daniki deeniki link endi? ... | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 37189 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: |
in future, Dont make fun of YSRCP supporters | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 10099 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.76.166 Rating: N/A |
Question seyyatam thappu ani nenu analedhu... the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23685 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: N/A |
matam aa? ... aa matam nenu hate chesinanta inkevaru hate cheyyaru emo ee prapancham lo  ... inka conversions ki for ga neneppudaina post vesana? ... Teresa is an exception, tanu chesindi 'real' seva ... aavidaki ee seelapareekshalu endi vayya sendalikam kakapote? ... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 5294 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 184.148.156.174 Rating: |
endi baabu........recent gaa matham puchchukunnaavaa enti?..........vaadamma kaamedy..........every single Guru and even Hindi GODs will be questioned........and it is part of inquiry.......... why is Mother Teresa exception to the rule? | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 16550 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.19.145 Rating: |
nee argument chala warast ga undi mesharu..just look at your posts..every post is about the authers/tilak's intentions..or how dare you raise questions about teresa? attitude.. Not one post about the actual allegations made.. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13103 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: |
vammo .. bye .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23684 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: N/A |
prati devudini manishi ga chustanu nenu ... for me Teresa is God samman ... I believe in her ... audit pustakalu, articles nuvve pettuko ekkadaina, thanks | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13099 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: |
enduku anukovu? life time lo bayata padaali .. lekapothe ledu antaav? idekkadi logic asalu? too much .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23683 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: |
forced conversions or money chupinchi conversions cheyyadam lantivi Teresa chesinda? ... nenaite anukonu ... ee totti poo articles inta late ga nidra lechayante asalu nammanu ... ippudu chestunna vallu aame peru cheppi bootu panulu cheyyochu gaka ... Saibaba bhaktulu or sankaracharya bhaktulu ki elanti value undo Teresa ki kuda ante value undali ... she is beyond these allegations | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13098 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: N/A |
evaru oogaro posts chusthe ardam avutundi le .. question ki answer varaku isthe chalu maaku .. counter ki article ee testavo .. leka audit results ee testavo nee istam .. counter lekapothe vadiley .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23682 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: N/A |
emani answer cheyyali ... daniki counter ga inkoka article techi ugala neeto patu? ... | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13097 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: N/A |
funds gurinchi adigithe agenda enduku avutundi? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13096 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: N/A |
anavasaram ga oogaku tammi .. antha kastam ga unte thread ignore cheyyi anthe .. nenu Teresa gorini boothulu tittaledu .. just media lo research news ni chadivi questions adugutunna .. and aavida hayaam lo jarigina irregularities gurinchi matrame .. personal vishayaalu kaadu .. so nuvvu classify cheyyaku .. unmadam/agenda ane pedda pedda padalatho .. veelaithe answer cheyyi chalu .. lekapothe lite teesuko .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 10098 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.76.166 Rating: N/A |
she believed in christ and conversions - adhi okaru cheppakarledh, thane cheppindhi. she used service to achieve it. service pondhi aanandha padina vallu will say,she was a blessing for them. bayata ninchi choose variki, genda's and agenda's kanapadathaayi. Gagu kurrod seva chesindhi kadha, why feel bad antunaadu. hmmm malli religious fanatics ni thiduthunnad.. teresa religious fanatic ane kadha migatha valla vaadhana? why do you want to kill Teresa Gagu, why? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Amara Side Hero Username: Amara Post Number: 7660 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 27.6.148.148 Rating: N/A |
bayalderaarandi....pakkaki jaragandi.. | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23681 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: |
endi cheppedi ... ippudu aa trust(s) naduputunna followers ni adagandi ... Teresa denkesindi ane concept vadilei ... ilanti threads/posts veste okappudu OT sankaracharya meeda edisina edupu ki neeku teda undadu ... unmadam adi | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13095 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: N/A |
ammanee .. naaku Reagan ante oka abhimaanam undedi .. kontha chadiva .. kaani ee vishayaalu teliyavu naaku .. thanks for the insight .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8799 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.228.240.169 Rating: |
nuv puttinappatnunchi Teresa to golikayal aadukunnav mari! ellehe ledhu kanake research chesthanu nee laga...notiki vachindhi vaganu...maa into idhe right ani sepparu...maa bilogy teacher idhe correst ani seppindhi...so idhe right avvala...naaku 90 markulu vachayi idhe rasthe tenth class lo ani...aina neetho light le...my time is much valuable than arguing with likes of you | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13094 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: |
hey between .. Sai Baba, Goutam Buddha evari daggara dabbulu vasool chesinattu .. avi mishandle ainattu .. aaropanalu nenu vinaledu .. so kalapaku .. Bhopal Gas tragedy victims ki .. virgin mary cross bommalu ichi .. oorukunna manishi intentions nenu anchana veyyalenu .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8798 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.228.240.169 Rating: N/A |
farmer saab, read faith in darkness...there is chapter on how hard she lobbied for canonization...reagan contributed 50 million dollars from the loot of nicaragua and gautemela (based on which the dastardly country of US became so rich in gold and coomidities like coffee right after the greatest deflation of its currency) for her tour the world campaign..... There are thousands in India who did more service than her with out craving for any recognition that this pseudo humanist witch. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13093 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: N/A |
naaku hitha bodhalu akkarledu tammi .. I am in the process of learning and living life .. naa bathuku nenu bathukutha edo vidham ga .. adigina questions ki answer ivvandi chaalu .. enduku maaku ee lolli .. memu emanna adagakudani question adigaama .. "throwing mud" .. "agenda" ani pedda padalu vaadataniki .. evadanna service kosamani dabbulu vasool chesthe .. aa dabbu tho emayyindi ani cheppadam minimum responsibility .. adi prapancham lo ekkadaina, evarikaina vartistundi anedi naaku telisina nyayam.. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23680 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: |
nuv puttinappatnunchi Teresa to golikayal aadukunnav mari! ellehe | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8797 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.228.240.169 Rating: N/A |
"Teresa aina veellaki bad intentions levu, they are good people ." lol chusi vachinattu bhale confident ga chepthave | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8795 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.228.240.169 Rating: |
"kushtu rogulni muttukondi ante kilometer paaripothaaru eee chetha articles raasee thappudu vedhavalu" she visited gautemela along with ronald reagan after he cleansed "Gautemala" of anti US sentiment, an international reporter asked her "how she can in her conscience support reagan" She said "Every part we visited was peaceful. Some times christ needs to punish in order for us to respect the only god "Jesus"". Mihir bose wrote a book on her and manifestly stated the following " if you say Teresa is a part of catholic and western agenda. The answer is Yes. She was a first rate evangelist and believed that conversion is the only way that the pagans forcibly realised christ" | ||
| Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 37887 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.194.214.250 Rating: N/A |
kikiki | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23679 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: N/A |
intaka mundu kuda cheppanu ... Bible Quran ilantivi rasina vallu cheppinavi annee nijam ga purtiga vallu cheppinavi kavu ... just take good from them and leave baad behind ... that doesn't mean alaa bad ni propogate chese vallani emi anakudadu ani kadu ... aa followers ani cheppi donga na panulu chese erri flowers ni emanna anukondi ... why the gurus? ... Sai baba aina, gowtam buddha aina, Teresa aina veellaki bad intentions levu, they are good people ... don't throw mud on them for the sake of you aJendas | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13091 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: N/A |
hey raaja .. enduku ee agraham .. memu emanna birth certificate adigama .. jesht .. vasool chesina dabbu ki lekkalu .. konni edhava panulaki answers anthe ga .. adagakoodadu ani ee ankshalenti? "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 37886 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.194.214.250 Rating: |
asal deenemma jeevitham...asal deniki edustharo theleedhu...oka sodhi puvvu ideology eskochi daaniki against edhi kanapadina vinapadinaa thattukoleru oka pani cheyyandi...xian fanatics,hindu fanatics and tulak fanatics anthaa kalisi oka sota cheri kottukuni sachipothe prapanchaniki pattina daridram vadilipodi...manam cheyyam...chesina vallani sachipoyinka kudaa kakulla poduthsam..edava nasa | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8794 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.228.240.169 Rating: N/A |
Raju garu.....I meant to type rajusk.....dont have a reply to a message | ||
| Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 37885 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.194.214.250 Rating: N/A |
kikiki..jai baba ramdev....mundu seat lo kookuni lakhs vadulchukunna dhagulbaji gaadevadoo rasina article...light | ||
| Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 37884 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.194.214.250 Rating: N/A |
owwww...control control | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 7010 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 70.198.1.157 Rating: N/A |
kushtu rogulni muttukondi ante kilometer paaripothaaru eee chetha articles raasee thappudu vedhavalu | ||
| Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 37883 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.194.214.250 Rating: N/A |
LOL...ramdev dobbesi emi chesthunnado cheppu | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8793 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.228.240.169 Rating: |
Raju, she was the british marvel unravelled by the BBC and then catapulted on to the world scene as the "healer" of india. Typical western hoopla....likes of how adiga etc get booker prizes...write something bad ur own culture and the need to match up to the west to be redeemed ...and then u have the perfect recipe for western recognition. That woman prefaced all the inmate conversations with the need to convert to christianity. Never took any one who didnt have a terminal illness . Was hell bent on renaming the orphans into christianized names....she collected probably close 20 billion dollars in India alone from Indians and there was not a shred of evidence with respect where the money went. Not even a IT record for all those years she lived. She attended the world christian convention and delivered a plenary lecture stating " if jesus the holy son in on our side and the holy brothers and sisters from the west contribute some of their riches, I have a country waiting to embrace christianity. In my life time I will leave no stone unturned to establish the kingdom of christ in India" This was when indian press started taking note of this idiotic woman | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13090 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: N/A |
LOL .. enti ee answer? asalu answer ee na? Jagan matram repu moota kattukuni veltada? poradatledu .. idi kuda anthe .. dabbu dobbesi .. build up isthe .. kummali .. appudu andaru happy .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 37882 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.194.214.250 Rating: N/A |
poyetappudu moota kattukuni vellindhi...happy? mundhu baba ramdev kaduthunna mootal gurinchi aalochinchu...kikiki | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13089 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: |
edhava sodhi antha maaku enduku .. janam daggara teesukunna billions of dollars ki lekkalu cheppi .. baaka oodukunte santosham andariki .. aa taravata kavalante memu kuda pallaki mostham .. leda siluva mostaam .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Doraveerachakra Junior Artist Username: Doraveerachakra Post Number: 907 Registered: 11-2010 Posted From: 80.5.212.177 Rating: N/A |
i have good thoughts about Mother Teresa, but in a bigger picture I never really felt WOW feel even after reading so many articles on her acts and SEVA.... i was always thinking it as a part of religionisation plan by the west biggies... I might be wrong I might be hated for my thoughts.. but these were there for some time of my adulthood. **Happy new year to all** Be happy, healthy & peaceful Peddaayanaa peddaayana eti ee anyyaayam, eti ee dowrjanyam | ||
| Madrascalcutta Comedian Username: Madrascalcutta Post Number: 1003 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 184.145.113.43 Rating: N/A |
She deserved Nobel prize. It's only sad that Obama got the same. Say what you want about her, but she took the poor and diseased in. Yes, she was bounded by her religious belief, but that is what made her do something so humane as well. Compare her to the church, which takes donations for its coffers and the temples that take a lot of money and we don't know where any of it goes! She inspired people to help. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 13086 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.67.234 Rating: |
baaga hurt ayyaranukunta meeru .. Mother Teresa vasoolu chesina funds lo lekkalu telatledu ane vishayam kuda charcha ki andanantha ettulo daachestunnaru ga ..  "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Rowdy Megastar Username: Rowdy Post Number: 23678 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.197.223.22 Rating: N/A |
maree teevravadulla tayaravutunnaru janalu, chas | ||
| Ch1234 Side Hero Username: Ch1234 Post Number: 2381 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 14.96.24.17 Rating: N/A |
chanipoyana aame midha buradha jallatam endhuku lite even if she did good to atleast one person its ok , evariki hanee cheyaledhu adhi chalu | ||
| Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 37881 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.194.214.250 Rating: |
erri puvvu naa kolu anthaa rasedhi ippudu facts aaa...anyway ippudu aavida gurinchi criticize cheyyadam deniki...she spent her whole life helping needy....move on | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 3934 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60 ide anukunta...... i am leading a pious life so far so good | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 3933 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
nenu ippudu danikosame etukkuntunna..........  i am leading a pious life so far so good | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 26458 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.8.186 Rating: N/A |
aa video link ettu Neeku punyam vuntundi.. | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 26457 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.8.186 Rating: N/A |
ante Rajiv Gandhi and MGR deserving aa  | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8791 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.228.240.169 Rating: |
adoka devatha...mana erri secular gallaki....hitchins gadu oka documentary teesadu....ee maha thalli meedha.....marxist gallaki oka non hindu icon create cheyyali adhi theresa ni rudharu just like gandhi and nehru gadu | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 3931 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
AP INTERVIEW “I Don’t Think She Deserved The Nobel†One of the authors of the scathing paper which has triggered a fresh appraisal of the 'Saint of the Gutters' ANIRUDH BHATTACHARYYA INTERVIEWS GENEVIEVE CHENARD COMMENTS PRINT MORE SHARING SERVICES SHARE ON FACEBOOK SHARE ON PINTEREST_SHARE SHARE ON TWITTER SHARE ON EMAIL TEXT SIZE ALSO IN THIS STORY It took two years of research, writing and peer review before three Canadian academics came up with their scathing paper, ‘Les cotes tenebreux de Mere Teresa’ (The Dark Side of Mother Teresa), which has triggered a fresh appraisal of the lady known as the Saint of the Gutters. The study—authored by Professors Serge Larivee and Genevieve Chenard of the University of Montreal along with Carole Senechal of the University of OttÂawa—was published in the March edition of the academic journal, Studies in Religion/Sciences Religieuses. In a telephonic interview with Anirudh Bhattacharyya, one of the authors—Genevieve Chenard, a professor at the University of Montreal’s Department of Psycho Education—discusses the findings: Where did the idea for this particular study originate? After all, Mother Teresa has been dead for over 15 years. It was in an ethics class. We were reading for special work. We were discussing altruism and Mother Teresa came up because she was an example. So, we started working on this. In your research, you argue that Mother Teresa was “anything but a saintâ€. However, till 1969, her work had received virtually no publicity. What changed? We think it started with a movie shoot (which became the documentary Something Beautiful For God), led by Mr (Malcolm) Muggeridge. He went to Calcutta to see Mother Teresa and her work there. He wanted to film in the house of the dying and then there was little light there. So, the cameraman, Mr (Ken) McMillan, he used a new kind of Kodak film. When they saw the film, the shots were bright and when Mr Muggeridge saw it, he claimed it was a miracle. This is why she became popular in the media after that time. So, based on your research, your contention is that she was a media creation? We found 287 books and articles on Mother Teresa (of which) 153—a little more than 50 per cent—were hagiography. We think Mother Teresa was doing what she thought was good. We are not claiming she was pretending. I think people like her because it made them feel better. I think that’s why the media focused on her work. Did her work actually merit this larger-than-life aura? I don’t think that was real. I think the media helped with everything; it may have done more for her work than what was real. Without that journalistic work, we may not have had this. You have also criticised what you describe as her dogmatic Catholic values.... She won the Nobel Prize for Peace. When she got that, she said abortion was the worst thing against peace. I don’t understand how abortion in the case of a woman who was raped could work against peace. There are many other contradictions. Like she was against divorce, but in the case of Lady Diana she agreed with the divorce. These are questions that should have been asked before she got the Nobel. You’ve also questioned some of her financial dealings. She took money, for example, from Haiti, from ‘Baby Doc’ Duvalier. She took the money to help the poorest of the poor around the world. But the money she got at that time was already stolen from a very poor population. Those things, it seems to us, are like contradictions, because you don’t steal from someone to give to another. You also believe that the beatification process was hurried through by the Vatican. I cannot speak for the Vatican. John Paul II wanted to make a lot of saints or people who were beatified. Mother Teresa was just one of them. What we know is that they went through the process faster for her than for many others. What we know is that they never questioned the contradictions. Maybe it was to regain popularity or because the Catholic Church needed a figure to be proud of. Obviously, she was already considered a saint during her lifetime. It was kind of logical for them to propose her for sainthood once she was dead. You also question the treatment at centres run by the Missionaries of Charity in Calcutta.... There was a lack of medication and ways to treat people. Many doctors went there and saw that conditions were very poor. A lot of pills, medications were missing, people were living in a poor condition. They didn’t really treat the sick people. She was just having them over there, because, for her, suffering makes you feel like Jesus was feeling on the cross. So suffering was a good thing in her thoughts. That’s what she was offering to people, being very near to Jesus by suffering and dying this way. They had a lot of money. She could have built the most technologically modern hospital of India at that time. But suffering was a good thing for her. So there was underutilisation of funds? What we learned is that there was about $5 million in all the accounts. She raised almost $100 million before 1980. What happened is that around 5 to 7 per cent went to the charity for medicines, things like that. The other money went to build some houses for the missionaries. Just five per cent went to the cause. Do you believe she deserved the Nobel or the other accolades she won, like India’s Bharat Ratna? Good question. I don’t think she deserved the Nobel Prize at that time. I think for giving the Nobel, there should have been much more research into what she did. I don’t understand why this was a prize for peace. We really think she inspired a lot of people to do good for others. We just think a lot of questions should be asked before she is declared a saint. If you were to tell me she would be made a saint because she gave a lot to the Church and the Catholic religion, that’s probably true. She did a lot for the Catholic Church. We’re just saying that making her a saint because she treated sick people is maybe not as real as it seems. Would you say the net effect of her life is positive? I suppose it is. But before that, we must evaluate the effect of all those charity missions around the world. The intention is good but we don’t know anything about the effect. Everybody in the world can help someone, but maybe the effect after that is negative. What feedback have you received on this work? It’s balanced, many positive and many negative. But what is interesting is the positive feedback talks a lot about the article and what it contains. The negative does not attack the article at all. It just attacks the authors, ad hominem attacks—that we should read the Bible, exorcise ourselves. Your research was based on published documentation. Did you do field work in Calcutta at all? No. But I’d like to go to Calcutta. How long did the research take you? Just the research and writing the article took more than a year. But it was very long because we had to send the text to many people for peer review and then we had to correct the text. It took two years to complete the article. i am leading a pious life so far so good | ||
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Baiting The Mother In his controversial book 'The Missionary Position', Christopher Hitchens examines without awe or reverence the influences and motives of Mother Teresa. Exclusive excerpts CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS COMMENTS PRINT MORE SHARING SERVICES SHARE ON FACEBOOK SHARE ON PINTEREST_SHARE SHARE ON TWITTER SHARE ON EMAIL TEXT SIZE THE MISSIONARY POSITION BY CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS MAYA PUBLISHERS/VERSO INTERVENTION, whether moral or political, is always and everywhere a matter of the mostexquisite timing. The choice of time and the selection of place can be most eloquent. So indeed may be the moments when nothing is said or done. Mother Teresa is fond of claiming to be not so much above politics as actually beyond them, operating in a manner that is transcendental. All claims by public persons to be apolitical deserve critical scrutiny, and all claims made by those who affect a merely 'spiritual' influence deserve a doubly critical scrutiny. The naive and simple are seldom as naive and simple as they seem, and this suspicion is reinforced by those who proclaim their own naivety and simplicity. Mother Teresa's timing shows every sign of instinctive genius. She possesses an intuition about the need for her message and about the way in which this message should be delivered. To take a relatively small example: in 1984 the Indian town of Bhopal was the scene of an appalling industrial calamity. The Union Carbide plant, which had been located in the town to take advantage of low labour costs and government tax incentives, exploded and spilled toxic chemicals over a large swathe of the citizenry. Two and a half thousand persons perished almost at once, and many thousands more were choked by lung-searing emissions and had their health permanently impaired. The subsequent investigation revealed a pattern of negligence and showed that previous safety warnings at the plant had been shelved or ignored. Here was no 'Act of God', as the insurance companies like to phrase it in the fine print of their contracts, but a shocking case of callousness on the part of a giant multinational corporation. Mother Teresa was on the next plane to Bhopal. At the airport, greeted by throngs of angry relatives of the victims, she was pressed to give her advice and counsel, and she did so unhesitatingly. I have a videotape of the moment. 'Forgive,'she said. 'Forgive, forgive.' On the face of it, a strange injunction. How did she know there was anything to forgive? Had anybody asked for forgiveness? What are the duties of the poor to the rich in such a situation? And who is authorized to recommend, or to dispense, forgiveness? In the absence of any answer to these questions, Mother Teresa's flying visit to Bhopal read like a hasty exercise in damage control, the expedient containment of righteous secular indignation. And now a photograph, or pair of photographs. Mother Teresa is seated in earnest conversation with Ronald Reagan and his chief of staff, Donald Regan. Both men wear expressions of the most determined sincerity. The photo opportunity occurs inside the White House in May 1985. Mother Teresa has been chosen to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Her companions for the day are Frank Sinatra, James Stewart and Jeanne Kirkpatrick, among other recipients. At the moment when the shutter falls on this shot, Ronald Reagan has every reason to be careful of Catholic susceptibility. His policy in Central America, which has resulted in his Cabinet officers defending the murders of four American nuns and the Archbishop of San Salvador, is deeply unpopular with the voters. One of his more daring lies—the claim that he had received a personal message from the Pope supporting his policy in the isthmus—has had to be retracted after causing considerable embarrassment. In the basement of the very building where Mother Teresa sits, a Marine Colonel named Oliver North (who foresook the Catholic Church for evangelical Pentecostalism after being vouchsafed a personal vision) is toiling away on an enterprise which will nearly succeed in destroying the Presidency that spawned it. Stepping on to the portico of the White House, flanked by Ronald and Nancy, Mother Teresa knows just what to say: "I am most unworthy of this generous gift of our President, Mr Reagan, and his wife and you people of the United States. But I accept it for the greater glory of God and in the name of the millions of poor people that this gift, in spirit and in love, will penetratethe hearts of the people." This kind of modesty—speaking for God and for the poor—is now so standard on her part that nobody even notices it. Then: "I've never realized that you loved the people so tenderly. I had the experience, I was last time here, a sister from Ethiopia found me and said 'Our people are dying. Our Children are dying. Mother, do something.' And the only person that came in my mind while she was talking, it was the President. And immediately I wrote to him, and I said, 'I don't know, but this is what happened to me.' And next day it was that immediately he arranged to bring food to our people....Together, we are doing something beautiful for God." Here was greater praise than Reagan could possibly have asked or hoped for. Not only was he told that he 'loved the people so tenderly' but he was congratulated for his policy in Ethiopia. That policy, as it happened, was to support the claim of the Ethiopian ruling junta—the Dergue—to the supposed 'territorial integrity' of the Ethiopian empire, which included (then) the insurgent people of Eritrea. General Mengistu Haile Mairam had deliberately used the weapon of starvation not just against Eritrea but also against domestic and regional dissent in other regions of the country. This had not prevented Mother Teresa from dancing attendance upon him and thereby shocking the human rights community, which had sought to isolate his regime. That very isolation, however, had provided opportunities for 'missionary work' to those few prepared to compromise. To invest such temporal and temporizing politics with the faint odour of sanctity, let alone with Mother Teresa's now familiar suggestion of the operations of divine providence ('And next day it was...') is political in the extreme, but the White House press corps, deliberately ignorant of such considerations, duly gave the visit and the presentation its standard uncritical treatment. Doctor's Dilemma An account of Mother Teresa's Home for the Dying in Calcutta by a doctor and a volunteer THOSE prepared to listen to criticism of Mother Teresa's questionable motives and patently confused socio-logical policy are still inclined to believe that her work is essentially humane. Surely, they reason, there is something morally impressive in a life consecrated to charity. If it were not for the testimony of those who have seen the shortcomingsand contradictions of her work firsthand, it might be sufficient argument, on the grounds that Mother Teresa must have some genuine good for the world's suffering people. Take, as one unremarked example, the visit of Dr Robin Fox to the Mother Teresa operation in Calcutta in 1994. As editor of The Lancet , perhaps the world's leading medical journal, Dr Fox was professionally interested in, and qualified to pronounce upon, the standards of care. The opening paragraphs of his report in the journal's 17 September, 1994, issue also make it clearthat he paid his visit with every expectation of being favourably impressed. Indeed, his tone of slightly raised-eyebrow politeness never deserts him: "There are doctors who call in from time to time but usually the sisters and volunteers (some of whom have medical knowledge) make decisions as best they can. I saw a young man who had been admitted in poor shape with high fever, and the drugs prescribed had been tetracycline and paracetamol. Later a visiting doctor diagnosed probable malaria and substituted chloroquine. Could not someone have looked at a blood film? Investigations, I was told, are seldom permissible. How about simple algorithms that might help the sisters and volunteers distinguish the curable from the incurable? Again no. Such systematic approaches are alien to the ethos of the home. Mother Teresa prefers providence to planning; her rules are designed to prevent any drift towards materialism : the sisters must remain on equal terms with the poor. ...Finally, how competent are the sisters at managing pain? On a short visit, I could not judge the power of their spiritual approach, but I was disturbed to learn thatthe formulary includes no strong analgesics. Along with the neglect of diagnosis, the lack of good analgesia marks Mother Teresa's approach as clearly separate from the hospice movement. I know which I prefer." [Emphasis added.] It should be underlined that the state of affairs described by Dr Fox was not that obtaining in some amateur, impoverished clinic in a disaster zone. Mother Teresa has been working in Calcutta for four and a half decades, and for nearly three of them she has been favoured with immense quantities of money and material. Her 'Home for theDying', which was the part of her dominion visited by Dr Fox, is in no straitened condition. It is as he described it because that is how Mother Teresa wishes it to be. The neglect of what is commonly understood as proper medicine or care is not a superficial contradiction. It is the essence of the endeavour, the same essence that is evident in a cheerful sign which has beem filmed on the wall of Mother Teresa's morgue. It reads 'I am going to heaven today.' According to many other former volunteers, Dr Fox may have paid his visit on an unusually good day, or may have been unusually well looked after. Mary London, a volunteer in Calcutta who has since written extensively about the lives of nuns and religious women, has this testimony to offer about the Home for the Dying: "My initial impression was of all the photographs and footage I've ever seen of Belsen and places like that, because all the patients had shaved heads. No chairs anywhere, there were just these stretcher beds. They're like First World War stretcher beds. There's no garden, no yard even. No nothing. And I thought what is this? This is two rooms with fifty to sixty men in one, fifty to sixty women in another. They're dying. They're not being given a great deal of medical care, They're not being given painkillers really beyond aspirin and maybe if you're lucky some Brufen or something, for the sort of pain that goes with terminal cancer and the things they were dying of.... "They didn't have enough drips. The needles they used and re-used over and over and over and you would see some of the nuns rinsing needles under the cold water tap. And I asked one of them why she was doing it and she said: 'Well to clean it.' And I said, 'Yes, but why are you not sterilising it; why are you not boilingwater and sterilizing your needles?' She said: 'There's no point. There's no time.' "The first day I was there when I'd fin-ished working in the women's ward I went and waited on the edge of the men's ward for my boyfriend, who was looking after a boy of fifteen who was dying, and an American doctor told me that she had been trying to treat this boy. And that he had a really relatively simple kidney complaint that had simply got worse because he hadn't had antibiotics. And he actually needed an operation. I don't recall what the problem was, but she did tell me. And she was so angry, but also very resigned which so many people become in that situation. And she said, 'Well, they won't take him to hospital.' And I said: 'Why? All you have to do is get a cab. Take him to thenearest hospital, demand that he has treatment. Get him an operation.' She said: 'They don't do it. They won't do it. If they do it for one, they do it for everybody.' And I thought—but this kid is fifteen." Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global income is more than enough to outfit several first-class clinics in Bengal. The decision not to do so, and indeed to run instead a haphazard and cranky institution which would expose itself to litigation and protest were it run by any branch of the medical profession, is a deliberate one. The point is not the honest relief of suffering but the promulgation of a cult based on death and suffering and subjection. Taking Lessons from Dictators ON my table as I write is an old copy of L'Assaut ( The Attack ). It is, or more properly it was, a propaganda organ for the personal despotism of Jean-Claude Duvalier of Haiti. As the helplessly fat and jowly and stupid son of a very gaunt and ruthless and intelligent father (Jean-Francois 'Papa Doc' Duvalier), the portly Dauphin was known to all, and to his evident embarrassment, as 'Baby doc'. In an attempt to salvage some dignity and to establish an identity separate from that of the parental, L'Assaut carried the subtitle 'Organe de Jean-Claudisme'. On the inside, next to a long and adoring account of the wedding anniversary of Haiti's bulbous First Citizen and his celebrated bride, Michele Duvalier, is a large photograph. It shows Michele, poised and cool and elegant in her capacity as leader of Haiti's white and Creole elite. Her ban-gled arms are being held in a loving clasp by another woman, who is offering up a gaze filled with respect and deference. Next to the picture is a quotation from this other woman, who clearly feels that her sycophantic gestures are not enough and that words must be offered as well: 'Madame la Presidente, c'est une personne qui sent, qui sait, qui veut prouver son amour non seulement par des mots, mais aussi par des actions concretes et tangibles.' The neighbouring Society page takes up the cry, with the headline: 'Mme to Presidente, le pays resonne de votre aeuvre.' The eye rests on the picture. The woman proposing these lavish compliments is the woman known to millions as Mother Teresa of Calcutta. A number of questions obtrude themselves at once. First, is thepicture by any chance a setup? Have the deft editors of L'Assaut made an exploited visitor out of an unsuspecting stranger, placed words in her mouth, put her in a vulnerable position? The answer appears to be in the negative, because the date ofthis issue is January 1981, and there exists film footage of Mother Teresa visiting Haiti that year. The footage, which was shown on the CBS documentary programme Sixty Minutes, has Mother Teresa smiling into the camera and saying, of Michele Duva-lier, that while she had met kings and presidents aplenty in her time, she had 'never seen the poor people being so familiar with their head of state as they were withher. It was a beautiful lesson for me.' In return for these and other favours, Mother Teresa was awarded the Haitian Legion d'honneur. And her simple testimony, in warm encomium of the ruling couple, was shown on state-run television every night for at least a week. No protest against this footage is known to have been registeredby Mother Teresa (who has ways of making her views widely available) between the time of the award and the time when the Haitian people became so 'familiar' with Jean-Claude and Michele that the couple had barely enough time to stuff their luggage with the National Treasury before fleeing for ever to the French Riviera i am leading a pious life so far so good | ||
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