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     Bittertruth Junior Artist Username: Bittertruth Post Number: 127 Registered: 11-2012 Posted From: 98.156.73.49 Rating: N/A |
Good Point! Here is a video of "Hasan Nisar" a well respected Pakistani intellectual firing on Saudis. They used to come to Pakistan like beggars before oil boom of 70s. He is saying that muslims are shameless in opposing west where they get Citizenship and treated well, but in Arab countries they are not even allowed to get citizenship and are treated 3rd class. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4-yfcwm7uE | ||
| Nrules Junior Artist Username: Nrules Post Number: 97 Registered: 10-2012 Posted From: 79.170.54.104 Rating: N/A |
Gujarat & Saudi Arabia ni comparision loki teesukochaara ??? OK, let's discuss. Saudi lo laws strict. Ivi andarikee.... except Saudis. Ikkada Muslims & Non-Muslims or Asian Muslims & Arab Muslims anna teda kante - SAUDIS - NON SAUDIS ane bheda bhaavam ekkuva. Asalu Human rights violation antoo edaina jaruguthonte - eee topic meeda jaruguthondi. Its just like the feeling of some people from outside are coming and grabbing the opportunities whereas their own community is facing unemployment problem. However, for this - they have to blame themselves and not others. Same Telangana & SA problem idi. Anduke they behave ARROGANT on NON-SAUDIS particularly ASIANS(Koddiga bhayapadataaru due to language problem... so tokkachu). Egyptians & Yemanis meeda kooda prathaapam choopabothaaru kaani - vaallu same language kaabatti COUNTER kooda dheetu ga vuntundi. Pai problem ki - Gujarat issues ki ponthane ledu .... kaabatti comparision waste. However, Saudi lo Okka Indian kooda vundakoodadu ani namme vyakthi ni nenu. Ikkada nundi bayataku vachina tarvaatha oka blog leda website open chesi - ikkadi problems gurinchi enlightenment chesi - mana vaallalo 1% mandini ikkada pokunda aapagaligina - jeevitham dhanyam - However - 100% ikkadaku evaroo raakoodadu + Future lo eee Rogues ye mana daggiraki employment opportunities kosam raavaali ane aasa. Neraveruthundo ledo teliyadu. | ||
| Kano Junior Artist Username: Kano Post Number: 8 Registered: 02-2013 Posted From: 117.197.226.242 Rating: N/A |
The study warns that Christians suffer greater hostility across the world than any other religious group. And it claims politicians have been “blind” to the extent of violence faced by Christians in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. The most common threat to Christians abroad is militant Islam, it says, claiming that oppression in Muslim countries is often ignored because of a fear that criticism will be seen as “racism”. It warns that converts from Islam face being killed in Saudi Arabia, Mauritania and Iran and risk severe legal penalties in other countries across the Middle East. The report, by the think tank Civitas, says: “It is generally accepted that many faith-based groups face discrimination or persecution to some degree. Related Articles Pakistan's only Christian minister shot dead 02 Mar 2011 Britain failing to stand up for Christians, say MPs 26 Feb 2012 Christians celebrate Christmas against the odds in China 25 Dec 2010 Christians now persecuted all over the world 29 Oct 2012 Christians in Bethlehem will celebrate midnight Mass on Christmas Eve, but dream of living elsewhere 23 Dec 2012 "A far less widely grasped fact is that Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers.” It cites estimates that 200 million Christians, or 10 per cent of Christians worldwide, are “socially disadvantaged, harassed or actively oppressed for their beliefs.” “Exposing and combating the problem ought in my view to be political priorities across large areas of the world. That this is not the case tells us much about a questionable hierarchy of victimhood,” says the author, Rupert Shortt, a journalist and visiting fellow of Blackfriars Hall, Oxford. He adds: “The blind spot displayed by governments and other influential players is causing them to squander a broader opportunity. Religious freedom is the canary in the mine for human rights generally.” The report, entitled Christianophobia, highlights a fear among oppressive regimes that Christianity is a “Western creed” which can be used to undermine them. State hostility towards Christianity is particularly rife in China, where more Christians are imprisoned than in any other country in the world, according to the report. It quotes Ma Hucheng, an advisor to the Chinese government, who claimed in an article last year that the US has backed the growth of the Protestant Church in China as a vehicle for political dissidence. “Western powers, with America at their head, deliberately export Christianity to China and carry out all kinds of illegal evangelistic activities,” he wrote in the China Social Sciences Press. “Their basic aim is to use Christianity to change the character of the regime...in China and overturn it,” he added. The “lion’s share” of persecution faced by Christians arises in countries where Islam is the dominant faith, the report says, quoting estimates that between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the Middle East have left the region or been killed in the past century. “There is now a serious risk that Christianity will disappear from its biblical heartlands,” it claims. The report shows that “Muslim-majority” states make up 12 of the 20 countries judged to be “unfree” on the grounds of religious tolerance by Freedom House, the human rights think tank. It catalogues hundreds of attacks on Christians by religious fanatics over recent years, focusing on seven countries: Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan, Nigeria, India, Burma and China. It claims George Bush’s use of the word “crusade” after the September 11 attacks on New York created the impression for Muslims in the Middle East of a “Christian assault on the Muslim world”. “But however the motivation for violence is measured, the early twenty-first century has seen a steady rise in the strife endured by Christians,” the report says. The 2003 invasion of Iraq left Iraqi Christians “more vulnerable than ever”, highlighted by the 2006 beheading of a kidnapped Orthodox priest, Fr Boulos Iskander, and the kidnapping of 17 further priests and two bishops between 2006 and 2010. “In most cases, those responsible declared that they wanted all Christians to be expelled from the country,” the report says. In Pakistan, the murder last year of Shahbaz Bhatti, the country’s Catholic minister for minorities, “vividly reflected” religious intolerance in Pakistan. Shortly after his death it emerged that Mr Bhatti had recorded a video in which he declared: “I am living for my community and for suffering people and I will die to defend their rights. "I prefer to die for my principles and for the justice of my community rather than to compromise. I want to share that I believe in Jesus Christ, who has given his own life for us.” | ||
| Ustad Hero Username: Ustad Post Number: 12758 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 76.173.42.79 Rating: N/A |
There are lot of pakis who are delusional about arab ancestry and forget they were hindus few generations ago. Bragging is a mask for insecurity. Truly confident people are quiet and unassuming. | ||
| Bittertruth Junior Artist Username: Bittertruth Post Number: 122 Registered: 11-2012 Posted From: 98.156.73.49 Rating: N/A |
I think Indian muslims should take the route of some muslims that are taking the line of..."My religion is Islam but by culture I am Indian". Just because Islam has some Arabic cultural connotations and we have beleived their religion does not mean, we need to adopt their culture. This line of thought is gaining respect of educated Pakistanis these days. ..like what our Christians do.... | ||
| Bittertruth Junior Artist Username: Bittertruth Post Number: 121 Registered: 11-2012 Posted From: 98.156.73.49 Rating: N/A |
Though South Asia muslims were trying try to think that they are all descendents of Arabs, Indian and Pakistani muslims that had a taste of Arab people very well know that since they are converted muslims, Arabs treat them with contempt (like some in India treat SC's). Indian-Pak muslims are slowly coming to new terms that most of their genetic origins are Indian and not any way related to Arab or middle east. Here is some proof: http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/10/18/comment/columns/l osing-respect/ -------------------------------------------------- How Pakistanis are treated in Saudi Arabia Allow me to highlight some of the difficulties which the pilgrims from Pakistan have to face during the course of their visit to Saudi Arabia. Also the atrocities of the blood sucking mafia operating in our country in the shape of travel agents. A senior colleague of mine has recently come back from Saudi Arabia. He went there to perform Umrah. He stayed there for thirty days during the Holy month of Ramadan. From what I have heard from him, I do not think that the treatment meted out to him there, during the course of his stay, was entirely to his satisfaction. He had been lucky enough, in the past, to perform the religious duty of Hajj in the year 1985. At that time Saudi Rial was worth two and a half Pakistani Rupees. When he now landed in Saudi Arabia, Saudi Rial had considerably gone up. To begin with, it was worth 25 Pakistani rupees. During the course of his stay, his market experience showed that the money exchangers of Saudi Arabia were not even prepared to accept 25 Pakistani rupees for one Saudi Rial. This degradation in the value of Pakistani currency was really mind boggling for him. Even much worse treatment is being dealt out to the Pakistan currency by the USA dollar. It is the talk of the day that most of the people, having lots of riches in Saudi Arabia, prefer to deposit the same in American banks, just like what the Pakistani politicians are reportedly doing. This flight of capital from the country seems to be the main reason for the sharp decline in the value of the Pakistani currency. If the value of Saudi Rial keeps going up, who knows what consequence would result therefrom. If there is no let-up in the situation, the middle class and the lower middle class of Pakistan would soon come to realise that performance of the religious duty of Hajj and Umrah is something utterly beyond their financial capacity which facility would then possibly remain available only to the elitist class of Pakistan. There are rows and rows of multistoried buildings in the two holy cities. The Mecca tower is the tallest. It is a massive building, having thousands of rooms. Someone told him that rent, per day, of a room in the Mecca tower is four thousand Saudi Rials. In terms of Pakistani currency, the rent would be Rs 100000/-. So, perhaps even the elite class of Pakistan cannot afford the luxury of staying in Mecca tower. The message of our religion is that all human beings are equal, regardless of the colour of their skins, on account of being the offspring of Adam and Eve. However, as per him, during the course of his stay in Saudi Arabia, he felt that he was being treated as a human being of a lesser kind. Coming back to Mecca, from Madina, by a passenger bus, he and other Pakistani travellers were told, by the Arab bus driver, to disembark from the bus, pick up their luggage and to walk to their hotel, which happened to be at a considerable distance from the point, where the passenger bus was brought to a halt. The protests and entreaties of the passengers remained unheeded The Arab driver pointed out that beyond that point only Arabic speaking passengers had been allowed the privilege to move forward in a passenger bus, and that the said facility was not available to or could be claimed by non-Arabs. This discriminatory treatment was quite unwelcome to the Pakistani passengers, but quite obviously they could do nothing about the same and were forced to march towards their hotel, on foot. Does this mean that in the eyes of the Saudis, Pakistanis are Muslims of an inferior category? In fact, the same discriminatory treatment was meted out to him even in the Islamic Republic of Iran when he went there some years ago for Ziarat. The shopkeepers and traders of Saudi Arabia do their utmost for depriving the Zairin of what little they have. In Mecca, a cup of coffee was worth two Rials in the beginning. The price later on went up initially to five Rials, for a single cup of coffee, and later to 13 Rials. Perhaps the authorities concerned in Saudi Arabia do not think it proper to subject business community to any check or control. Even before he left for Saudi Arabia, a surprise confronted him. The concerned travel agent demanded a sum of Rs 32,000/- as visa fee. He later learned that the government of Saudi Arabia does not charge even a single penny for issuing visas. The travel agents in the business thus appear to be operating like a mafia. They amass wealth by sucking the blood of the poor and unsuspecting pilgrims. The matter definitely needs to be looked into by the ministry. Especially when the religious affairs minister has been able to secure bail, after more than one year of his arrest, in a criminal case registered against him. Both in Mecca and Madina, he found people openly enjoying soft drinks during day time. No one seemed to be interested in taking them to task for violating the sanctity of Ramadan. This failure to react, on part of the society, is a very healthy and pragmatic attitude. With more money and riches people start having greed and exaggerated avarice for gold. This became apparent in Madina. On one side of the Haram there was a massive and far spread out market of gold smiths, who shut down their business only during the prayer time. Their shops were adorned and packed with sparkling and glittering golden ornaments. Glare and brilliance of gold is like hell fire. Presence of such a huge gold market, in such close proximity of the Masjid-e-Nabvi, is repugnant to good taste and quite un-salutary. Coming out of Haram, one is practically catapulted into the gold market, as if thrown from the heaven, into the hell. The Saudi authorities should be kind enough to look into this. Finally, during Ramadan, whereas in Madina the hosts beg the Zairin to let them have the honour of joining them at Iftar time, the attitude at Mecca is quite different. The official staff in a harsh and disgraceful manner throw the Iftari packs at the Zairin, which induces in them the feeling as if they are beggars. Value of the Indian Rupee and Bangla Deshi currency is much better in Saudi Arabia as compared to Pakistani currency. Most of the sanitation staff appears to have been recruited from Bangladesh, whereas in the not too distant past such staff used to be recruited from Pakistan. It seems that Pakistan is no more treated as a favourable country in Saudi Arabia. | ||
| Ustad Hero Username: Ustad Post Number: 12747 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 76.173.42.79 Rating: N/A |
 Bragging is a mask for insecurity. Truly confident people are quiet and unassuming. | ||
| Kish Megastar Username: Kish Post Number: 29368 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 8.34.148.198 Rating: N/A |
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| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 8007 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 68.39.94.242 Rating: N/A |
 no siggy | ||
| Katthi Side Hero Username: Katthi Post Number: 7134 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133 Rating: N/A |
Gujarath lo muslims dhi deenavasta..Asalu evado cheste elli Modi elli vallani sampindu.. bad state of muslims.. emi cheyyaleka kushinchi pothunnaru.. Papi gadu post este katthi la digali | ||
| Time_pass Side Hero Username: Time_pass Post Number: 4400 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 136.174.187.5 Rating: N/A |
// how do you know....?? // MOdi vaste antha dilshuknagar ani annava How di you know thatu? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 36849 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: |
Those are islamic countries. Islam means peace akkada human rights ni thokkedhi emuntundhi? | ||
| Methhanithodugu Megastar Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 23231 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 115.184.210.50 Rating: N/A |
they can abuse [all muslims] women and no body gonna question them....while in Gujarat i dont think its possible ... PS: no disrespect its obvious ....it happens in Middle east rapist is left free under age girl will be punished sanna ga untaru kaani.... Middle class danemma Shock bagundi by Con-Gress!!! Jai Chandra Madiga garu | ||
| Chakkera_keli Junior Artist Username: Chakkera_keli Post Number: 980 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 206.39.12.245 Rating: N/A |
how do you know....?? | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 3718 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
calling JTH.... india lo unnanta freedom ye country lo undadu muslims ki.... i am leading a pious life so far so good | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 36848 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
10 times more human rights than gujarati muslims | ||
| Chakkera_keli Junior Artist Username: Chakkera_keli Post Number: 979 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 206.39.12.245 Rating: N/A |
do they have more freedom compared to gujarat..... how are human rights in middle-east muslim countries ? |
