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Tilak
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Post Number: 12638 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 117.195.242.40
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 01:08 pm: |
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Vjavasi:presided over some internal liberalization.......negatives- completely neglected rural economy
historic decision by PVNR .. looking back .. in hindsight .. i feel .. had he not cut down license raj .. I feel India would have been a failed state .. but agree that rural econ did not benefit much from liberalisation .. Vjavasi:too much focused on stock market centric growth
well, blindly aping the american model .. to an extent .. which is wrong .. Vjavasi:neglected rural economy positives - infra development particularly Roads
Even communications revolution should be credited to his govt .. specially mobile telephony .. I think he deserves credit for that .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Vjavasi
Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 10932 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:50 pm: |
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Bushu: GDP growth is an OK factor. PPP is rarely in your control. dollar volatility controls most of it. what stops a country from going under are controlling inflation and the deficit. idhi basics of econ annatlu. everything is tigtly interlinked of course and there are all kinds of feedback loops that go around. but economists focus on these critical factors in addition to exchange rate - to assess a country. BJP managed them amazingly well inspite of going through some historic events during their rule. what they did not do well is percolating these to the bottom sections of the society - reducing inequalities in income.
i am not talking Purchasing power parity....i think it's different form overall purchasing power in the economy.....purchasing power is policy dependent.....you have to balance GDP growth with purchasing power spread for robust and healthy growth......if people at large lack purchasing power economy can't grow.......econmists mostly talk about peripheral stuff, they can't dare to question the basics........economics at its core is simple common sense...there is nothing in this world that cannot be explained in simple language |
   
Bushu
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Post Number: 6302 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:38 pm: |
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Vjavasi:but the overall foundation and health of economy has to be assessed form the fundamentals i mentioned
GDP growth is an OK factor. PPP is rarely in your control. dollar volatility controls most of it. what stops a country from going under are controlling inflation and the deficit. idhi basics of econ annatlu. everything is tigtly interlinked of course and there are all kinds of feedback loops that go around. but economists focus on these critical factors in addition to exchange rate - to assess a country. BJP managed them amazingly well inspite of going through some historic events during their rule. what they did not do well is percolating these to the bottom sections of the society - reducing inequalities in income. in any case, just some pointers if you were to engage with anyone about economics. these are loaded topics, cannot be explained in a DB. balupu s/o gelupu |
   
Vjavasi
Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 10931 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:36 pm: |
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Iamim:
you can read this...this is part of 7-part series on Hindu nationalism http://krishnarjun108.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/hindu-nationa lism-vajpayee-government-a-disaster/ |
   
Iamim
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Post Number: 4735 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 117.195.178.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:31 pm: |
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Vjavasi:shielded italian mafia
Why? |
   
Vjavasi
Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 10930 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:30 pm: |
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Bushu: avi kooda choodali but these two are key. they determine and control if a country can get into a mess.
these two are governance issues......but the overall foundation and health of economy has to be assessed form the fundamentals i mentioned |
   
Vjavasi
Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 10929 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:28 pm: |
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Tilak:annai .. please explain these to novices like me .. what was better with PVNR govt, what was "okay" with ABVP govt, what is "wrong" with MMS govt .. that helps ..
With PVNR, first cong PM outside mafia.......improved internal security, his look east policy is visionary in foreign relations and helped india.....presided over some internal liberalization.......negatives- completely neglected rural economy vajpayee, a pompous windbag, seriously believed in the illusion that he was man of masses.....focused more on self glorification like nehru than interests of party and country....shielded italian mafia.......too much focused on stock market centric growth......failed in internal security......actively promoted delhi establishment....backstabbed the movement that took him to the chair....neglected rural economy positives - infra development particularly Roads MMS- worst PM and a moron in PM chair, i don't have anything positive for this idiot |
   
Tilak
Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 12637 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 117.195.242.40
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:03 pm: |
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Vjavasi:Vajpayee govt better compared to MMS but substandard on many fronts compared to PVNR
annai .. please explain these to novices like me .. what was better with PVNR govt, what was "okay" with ABVP govt, what is "wrong" with MMS govt .. that helps .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Tilak
Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 12636 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 117.195.242.40
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:00 pm: |
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Bushu:Mostly for Tilak and Vjavasi
unfortunately  Vjavasi:foolishly went for a blast before assessing the reality..
may be .. in hindsight .. "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Bushu
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Post Number: 6300 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 11:57 am: |
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Vjavasi:.foolishly went for a blast before assessing the reality.....also the economic direction was flawed
LOL. okay. balupu s/o gelupu |
   
Vjavasi
Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 10928 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 11:50 am: |
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Tilak: it started off with "economic sanctions" of the entire world in 1998 and in 1999 - we faced a war, 2001
whose making?....foolishly went for a blast before assessing the reality.....also the economic direction was flawed |
   
Bushu
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Post Number: 6299 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 11:49 am: |
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Vjavasi:.i will look for increase in GDP, purchasing power and employment growth rate
avi kooda choodali but these two are key. they determine and control if a country can get into a mess. balupu s/o gelupu |
   
Tilak
Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 12630 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 117.195.242.40
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 11:44 am: |
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Vjavasi:Vajpayee govt better compared to MMS but substandard on many fronts compared to PVNR
The biggest thing ppl fail to credit Vajpayee govt on economic front is - it started off with "economic sanctions" of the entire world in 1998 and in 1999 - we faced a war, 2001 - Kutch earth quake and Operation Parakram, 2001-03 huge drought .. its been very very eventful .. PS - these are not excuses, but facts that very much influence economy! Bushu:look at the inflation and the current account deficit numbers here. in comparison with china and the US. BJP is the party of banias - anedhi true. Indian business climate will change with them.
absolutely .. also .. deficit ni .. 2.5% of budgeted amount daatakunda manage chesaru .. which helped India get great credit ratings and loans for less interest ... which percolated into national markets and loans were available to common man easily at low rates .. which thrived entrepreneurship .. simplistic ga matladi undachu .. but I think these are facts .. but corrections are welcome "India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda |
   
Vjavasi
Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 10925 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 11:32 am: |
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Vajpayee govt better compared to MMS but substandard on many fronts compared to PVNR |
   
Vjavasi
Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 10924 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 11:14 am: |
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economic strength anedhi just inflation , current account deficit to decide cheyyalem ani naa feeling........i will look for increase in GDP, purchasing power and employment growth rate |
   
Bushu
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Post Number: 6298 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 11:03 am: |
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Mostly for Tilak and Vjavasi if you want a comparison to the ABV govt and the MMS govt. look at the inflation and the current account deficit numbers here. in comparison with china and the US. BJP is the party of banias - anedhi true. Indian business climate will change with them. inflation - http://i.imgur.com/lgpzrcz.jpg . current account - http://i.imgur.com/bwaM1ES.jpg briefly, current account (exports - imports) needs to stay at < -5% .. look at how it dropped soon as cong took power in 2004. and when the IT boom was in full swing. balupu s/o gelupu |