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kali, you're arguing with me ! rest




I know. Antha type chesaaka ade feelign kaligindi.

ayina post button nokkesaa..
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kali, you're arguing with me ! rest...
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Masularex:

our ability to argue is the reason where we are now




kanchi swami(nadiche daivam) mida naaku baagaa nammakam vundedi.Monna okaayana oka get-together lo evidences tho sahaa cheppaadu(with many references of articles and books) . Yiyana(pedha swamy), and Bharathiya Vidya Bhavan- Radha Krishna kalisi kanchi peettam history ni yentha thiaragarasaaro ani. r.Venkatraman kudaa villa ku full support anta.Asalu yi peettam sankarachaarya pettaka poyina, pettinaltu, Adisankarulu ikkade samadhi chendinatlu history ni thirga raasi, Sankara vijayalau book ni kuda revise chesindi anth apedha swamy adhvaryam lone jariigndi ani.

Mind dobbs. Ippati daakaa nenu namuthunaa books anni kuda thiraga raasina books anta. Aayana old copy of Sankara vijyalau chupinchaadu valla intlo..
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Masularex:

our ability to argue is the reason where we are now




yenti brother vupayogam?? Nenu cheppinde right ani nenu, nuvvu cheppinde right ani nuvvu konni references quote chesthamu. Asalu aa quote chesinodu chppindi nijamo, kaado manaku theliyadu..vaadu manalaanti biased vaade ayivuntaadu. Aslau history motham inthe..inka nijam yela thelusthundi??
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Tilak:

ala annada Savarkar ekkadaina?




Bushu:

annai, marathas are more anti-hindi/north than even tamilians, konni chotla. FYI.






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Kalikaalam:

Konni, konni adaga kudadu. Alaa flow lo vellipothu vuntaayi.Ishtam vunte andulo participate cheyyaali. lekapothe silent gaa thappukovaali. Inkokadu vachi'Asalu Mahatma Gandhi desa drohi. Desanni chilchaadu. Manam yenduku jaathi pitha gaa, mahaatmudu gaa accept chesi aayana brith/death days celebrate chesukovaali?" antaadu. never ending.

Google chesthe andariki anukulamgaa yenni write-ups vuntaayo, vyathirekam gaa anne vuntaayi. Manaku yedi nachithe, adi follow avvadame. pakka valla ni ibbandi pettanantha varaku yevaru yedi follow ayinaa thappuledu ani naa openion.Just manaku yedo nachindi kaabatti, adi andaru accept cheyyalaani pakka valla nu hurt chesthe maatram adi raakshsathavam.


defeatist suggestion ! as humans, our ability to argue is the reason where we are now !
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Anand_n:

Why do they celebrate it as Martyr's day ? He died of natural causes at home kada ?




Konni, konni adaga kudadu. Alaa flow lo vellipothu vuntaayi.Ishtam vunte andulo participate cheyyaali. lekapothe silent gaa thappukovaali. Inkokadu vachi'Asalu Mahatma Gandhi desa drohi. Desanni chilchaadu. Manam yenduku jaathi pitha gaa, mahaatmudu gaa accept chesi aayana brith/death days celebrate chesukovaali?" antaadu. never ending.

Google chesthe andariki anukulamgaa yenni write-ups vuntaayo, vyathirekam gaa anne vuntaayi. Manaku yedi nachithe, adi follow avvadame. pakka valla ni ibbandi pettanantha varaku yevaru yedi follow ayinaa thappuledu ani naa openion.Just manaku yedo nachindi kaabatti, adi andaru accept cheyyalaani pakka valla nu hurt chesthe maatram adi raakshsathavam.
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Brilliant tribute to Veer Savarkar by @malikashok that was published in Pioneer around May 2008

Vinayak Damodar Savarkar would have been 125 today. In life, he was a demonised, marginalised 'political Hindu'. Yet, in contemporary India, Savarkar stands vindicated and Savarkarism is more accepted than ever before.

In 2004, when the historian Ron Chernow wrote his eponymous biography of Alexander Hamilton, he was partly impelled by the sense that his subject had not been given his due. Hamilton was an American nationalist, a votary of federal institutions, a Republican, an advocate of limited Government and a patron of the industrial society before these terms were coined or at least entirely understood. He was also the first Secretary of the Treasury of the United States and a widely influential figure in the early years of the new republic.

Yet, over the decades, memories of Hamilton's contemporaries overwhelmed his legacy. He was America's forgotten Founding Father, lost in the crevices between George Washington and Benjamin Franklin. Hamilton had opposed slavery even while his great rival Thomas Jefferson had kept slaves; yet, it wasn't Hamilton who was remembered by human rights chroniclers.

What Hamilton lost in life, Hamiltonism won in history. By the 20th century, Hamilton's ideas had triumphed. His initial postulates continue to define American strategic thinking, foreign policy and economic philosophy. Every White House resident in the past 20 years has paid homage to Ronald Reagan; Reagan himself often evoked Hamilton.

It is tempting to see Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, who would have been 125 this morning, as an Indian Alexander Hamilton. By the time he died in 1966, he had shrunk to a limited presence. Surrounded only by a few devoted adherents and members of the Hindu Mahasabha, his writings read mainly by his fellow Maharastrians, his heroic role in the freedom movement had been effaced by official historians.

Savarkar was the intellectual equal of Jawaharlal Nehru. Revisit the writings of the stalwarts of the pre-1947 period and you will encounter few besides these two with a grasp and informed assessment of contemporary world affairs. Yet, in the hard, harsh world of politics and political ideas, Savarkar, by the 1960s, had lost to Nehru's cult and charisma.

There were many reasons why the Left-liberal intelligentsia, most of whom are, in some form or the other, pensioners of the Nehruvian state structure, despised Savarkar. For a start, he was flesh-and-blood refutation of the charge that Hindu nationalism lacked an intellectual tradition. Second, he represented a cogent and coherent position that believed the political choices India and the Congress had made in 1947 (or 1950 or 1952, after the first election) were not necessarily correct.

These were inconvenient truths for Nehruvian fellow travellers, Savarkar the inconvenient man. There was astonishing virulence towards Savarkar. Some, like the perverse and bigoted Mr Mani Shankar Aiyar, even mocked the 10 years that Savarkar spent in Cellular Jail, Port Blair, in horrific conditions, alone in a tiny cell.

The antipathy to Savarkar has to be seen in a larger context. Post-independence, the Congress establishment sought to rewrite history in its own image. It determinedly underplayed the role of the early Indian elites -- the Poona Brahmins, Bombay's Parsi constitutionalists, Calcutta's Bengali and Brahmo activists -- who had dominated public life prior to the Mahatma's mass politics.

As the Congress set out to establish that there was no history and no freedom struggle before Gandhi, and no politics and no consciousness of modern India before Nehru, these pioneer groups became expendable. The Marxist historians who actually wrote the textbooks had their own theories. For instance, not just was Savarkar demonised, even the venerable Bal Gangadhar Tilak was painted in sectarian colours.

Even so, history has a strange way of getting back. Savarkar's idea of the political Hindu, of a polity and of political parties that would be sensitive to the Hindu cultural mainstay of Indian nationhood, that would, while eschewing ritualism and dogma, incorporate robust nationalism into policy-making, is more relevant than it has ever been. Nehruvianism is in retreat and, even though Savarkar has been dead 42 years, Savarkarism has never been more alive.

Written in 1923, Savarkar's slim tract, Hindutva, remains a remarkably contemporary articulation of organic nationalism. Indeed, it anticipates some of the ideas expanded upon by Samuel Huntington in Who Are We? (2004).

Leftist historians often divide Savarkar's life into two -- the supposedly "acceptable" first part, till the mid-1920s; and, his espousal of Hindutva after that. Actually, this division is bogus.

Admittedly, Savarkar's early life was one of a romantic revolutionary. As a student in London, he was in touch with Irish, Turkish and Chinese dissidents and rebels. In 1907, he wrote The War of Independence of 1857. The book was deeply researched and provided an interpretation of documents and events from the Indian perspective.

Admittedly, it is not the last word on the Indian Uprising. In hindsight, Savarkar could be accused of glossing over the differing motivations of the participants of the 1857 war and of being simplistic in believing that there was overwhelming consensus in re-establishing the Delhi throne as a Maratha protectorate -- as had been the case till 1803.

Nevertheless, this was a passionate young man of 24 writing the first non-imperial account of a dramatic struggle. It was passionate and pulsating, being smuggled to India wrapped in dust jackets saying Don Quixote and Pickwick Papers. The British Government arrested Savarkar and sought to send him to India to stand trial. At Marseilles, in a dramatic move, he squeezed out of the porthole and swam to the shore, claiming asylum from the French Government.

It was refused and he was re-arrested on French soil and handed over to the British. This was in breach of international law and among those who protested at Savarkar being denied asylum was Jean Longuet, French lawyer-editor and grandson of Karl Marx.

Savarkar was heavily influenced by Italian thinkers such as Mazzini. He saw Hindutva as an Indian Risorgimeto, conceptualising it as a reawakening of the national spirit and of a pride in, and understanding of, the territorial frontiers of India. He was not a religious sort and did not interpret 'Hindu' solely in terms of worship. He was an early opponent of Dalit exclusion, seeing a Hindu harmonisation process as essential to national unity.

Savarkar was often impatient with the RSS and it is piquant to compare him with MS Golwalkar, 'Guruji' as he is called and the man who made the Sangh the all-India institution that it is today. Savarkar was a thinker, Golwalkar a do-er; Savarkar was the rare Hindu mind who understood statecraft and the importance of state power, Golwalkar sought to change society by working bottom-up from grassroots communities. For Golwalkar (as for Gandhi), the Hindu was ascetic-exemplar; for Savarkar, he was warrior-ideal.

The two streams were not antithetical but clearly complementary. When they finally merged, consciously or otherwise, in the late-1980s, it changed Indian politics and moved the polity irrevocably to the Right. At its best, the BJP is a confluence of Savarkar and Golwalkar.

Savarkar had known it all along. Just before his death, in an emotional piece called "This, My Legacy", he had written: "If we are to live with honour and dignity as a Hindu nation -- and we have the right to do so -- that nation must emerge under the Hindu flag. This, my dream, shall come true -- if not in this generation at least in the next. If it remains an empty dream, I shall prove a fool. If it comes true, I shall prove a prophet. This, my legacy, I bequeath to you."

Savarkar is gone. Let us cherish his legacy, salute the prophet.



"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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If yet your blood does not rage, then it is water that flows in your veins. For what is the flush of youth, if it is not of service to the motherland.
-Chandrasekhar Azad
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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Btw - Today (27 Feb) is Chandrsekhar Azad's Punyathidhi (Vardanthi) ..

One more nationalist who sacrificed everything he had for the country ..
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Zulu:

hindu hindi hindustani patriot




annai, marathas are more anti-hindi/north than even tamilians, konni chotla. FYI.
balupu s/o gelupu
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Zulu:

hindu hindi hindustani patriot


ala annada Savarkar ekkadaina?
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old school..hindu hindi hindustani patriot
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Why do they celebrate it as Martyr's day ? He died of natural causes at home kada ?

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vohhoohhhooohhhooo....nationalism kii loyalty to religion kii thedaa baga cheppaar....by the by miriyaala chaaru meedha meee vopinion enti
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garuda sir kee athesit tho emi pani
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Humpty_dumpty:

live today, fight tomorrow






garuda puraanam lo... atheist, coward, atheist n coward ki evaina special treatments unnaya ?
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tactically signed anta... bhagat singh la padina siksha aanandnaga sweekarinchalsindi !


live today, fight tomorrow :D
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great personality but later turned into a petty communalist ! like jinnah ! both were atheists ! and power seekers ! and opportunists !

savarkar's clemency petition

Savarkar appealed for clemency in 1911 and again during Sir Reginald Craddock's visit in 1913, citing poor health in the oppressive conditions. In 1920, the Indian National Congress and leaders such as Mahatma Gandhi, Vithalbhai Patel and Bal Gangadhar Tilak demanded his unconditional release. Savarkar tactically signed a statement endorsing the trial, verdict and British law, and renouncing violence, a bargain for freedom.

"hereby acknowledge that I had a fair trial and just sentence. I heartily abhor methods of violence resorted to in days gone by and I feel myself duty bound to uphold law and constitution to the best of my powers and I am willing to make the [1919 Montague-Chelmsford Reforms] a success in so far as I may be allowed to do so in future"

Savarkar appealed for clemency within a year of his reaching the Andamans. In one of his communications, he says,

"...if the government in their manifold beneficence and mercy release me, I for one cannot but be the staunchest advocate of constitutional progress and loyalty to the English government which is the foremost condition of that progress.... Moreover, my conversion to the constitutional line would bring back all those misled young men in India and abroad who were once looking up to me as their guide."


tactically signed anta... bhagat singh la padina siksha aanandnaga sweekarinchalsindi !
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your face cut is looks like a bootcut
hindutva ki religion ki enti sambandham?

swadesi concept >>>>> belief in god
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yKu1lOvMeA

This is a song that Savarkar wrote, when he was arrested and thrown in the Andaman jail (in a dungeon) for a long time. Papam, samudram ni adugutaadu .. please take me to my motherland, I cannot bear this separation anymore ani ..

Must listen .. so heart touchingly rendered by Mangeshkars ..
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Bushu:

but oka concept ichadu nationalists ki. and very cleverly disengaged it from the core religion itself. master stroke.



bhayya .. Indian nationalism in itself has never been "religious" right from the days of Shivaji Maharaj or Maharana Pratap .. its just a continuation of that ..

Tilak and Savarkar are those two greatest freedom fighters .. who have made "nationalism" the primary tool in independence movement ..

Farmer:

gandhi kii against ani hemooo


against ani emi ledu .. their ways are different anthe .. Savarkar never criticized any other freedom fighter or their ways .. unlike some other ..
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gandhi kii against ani hemooo




quite possible.

but oka concept ichadu nationalists ki. and very cleverly disengaged it from the core religion itself. master stroke. :D
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problem hemii ledh...but anthagaa own chesukoni henduk oogipothara ani doubting...same with bhagat.....

gandhi kii against ani hemooo
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heyy asalu self proclaimed atheist savarkar kii right wing batch enduku bandmelam vaayistaru?




atheism thoti hinduism kenti problem? it is another accepted stream of thought. Savarkar represented the nationalistic thought and called it Hindutva. Hindu word kooda not related to God kadhaa. Many nationalists who are also atheists. Gods are but symbols.
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Veer savarkar was a zamindar... You get this title which is equal to a major only if you are your family has worked for the British army for 30 yrs
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ohhh thatttaaa....inthakii gandhi thata case looo eeyaniki clean chit ichaaraa?
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emoo guruvu garu....hindutva concept correctey kani ayana atheist ani cheppukunevadu antaru mari....inkoo case, bhagat singh.... hard core communist.....but bhagat kurrod peru inagaane right wing janal shatabdi express loo passengers laga oogipothaar


bhayya .. vaallu religious athiests .. not spiritual/cultural/national athiests .. chaala teda undi .. (precise ga cheppalante .. thats the difference between Nehru and Savarkar/Bhagat)
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http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/aug/23spec1.htm
NTR and YSR are nothing short of a boon to telugu land.

http://telanganaissue.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/14469.pdf
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Veer Savarkar - A legend

> The first political leader to daringly set Absolute Political Independence as India's goal (1900).

> The first Indian political leader to daringly perform a bonfire of foreign (English) clothes (1905).

> The first Indian to organize a revolutionary movement for India's Independence on an international level (1906).

> The first Indian law student who was not called to the English Bar despite having passed his examination and observed the necessary formalities, for his activities to seek India's freedom from the British (1909).

> The only Indian leader whose arrest in London caused legal difficulties for British Courts and whose case is still referred to in the interpretations of the Fugitive Offenders Act and the Habeas Corpus (Rex Vs Governor of Brixton Prison, ex-parte Savarkar)

> The first Indian historian whose book on the 1857 War of Independence was proscribed by British Authorities in India even before its publication. The Governor General had asked the Postmaster General to confiscate copies of the book six months before the book was officially banned (1909).

> The first political prisoner whose daring escape and arrest on French soil became a cause celebre in the International Court of Justice at The Hague. This case was mentioned in many International Treaties at that time (1910).

> The first graduate whose degree was withdrawn by an Indian University for striving for India's freedom (1911).

> The first poet in the world who, deprived of pen and paper, composed his poems and then wrote them on the prison walls with thorns and nails, memorized ten thousand lines of his poetry for years and later transmitted them to India through his fellow-prisoners who also memorized these lines.

> The first revolutionary leader who within less than 10 years gave a death-blow to the practice of untouchability in the remote district of Ratnagiri while being interned there.
> The first Indian leader who successfully started -
A Ganeshotsava open to all Hindus including ex-untouchables (1930).
Interdining ceremonies of all Hindus including ex-untouchables (1931).
"Patitpavan Mandir", open to all Hindus including ex-untouchables (22 February 1931).
A cafe open to all Hindus including ex-untouchables (01 May 1933).
The first political prisoner in the world who was sentenced to Transportation for Life twice, a sentence unparalleled in the history of the British Empire.
The first political leader to embrace death voluntarily by way of Atma Samarpan in the highest tradition of Yoga (1966).




Got some dates mixed up .. here is the link to the website on his name made by his fans .. http://www.savarkar.org/en/veer-savarkar
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emoo guruvu garu....hindutva concept correctey kani ayana atheist ani cheppukunevadu antaru mari....inkoo case, bhagat singh.... hard core communist.....but bhagat kurrod peru inagaane right wing janal shatabdi express loo passengers laga oogipothaar
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Manchi ki Manchi, Punch ki Punch
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heyy asalu self proclaimed atheist savarkar kii right wing batch enduku bandmelam vaayistaru?


read his book .. "Hindutva" ..

Hindutva concept ki janam lo acceptability teesukuni vachindi Savarkar .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savarkar
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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marchipothunna inkoka mahaanu bhavudu

SAVARKAR
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Tilak:

Thanks a lot for the thread .. evaranna vestara leda chuddam ani waiting nenu ..

Bharata Desam lo ne motta modati saari - 1905 lo ne .. manaki kavalsindi .. "dominion status" kaadu .. "complete freedom" ani gurtu chesina mahonnata vyakti ..

Antaraani tanam pogottatam kosam andari kante mundu .. samajika bhojanaalu erpatu chesina maharshi ..

ila okati enti .. almost annitlo kuda pioneer ga nilichaaru .. peru kosam paritapinchakunda ..

Vinayak Damodar Savarkar - aka Veer Savarkar - Amar Rahe ..



Koi Hindu hai, koi Muslim hai aur koi isai hai. Magar sabne insaan naa banne ki kasam khai hai
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heyy asalu self proclaimed atheist savarkar kii right wing batch enduku bandmelam vaayistaru?
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Thanks a lot for the thread .. evaranna vestara leda chuddam ani waiting nenu .. :-)

Bharata Desam lo ne motta modati saari - 1905 lo ne .. manaki kavalsindi .. "dominion status" kaadu .. "complete freedom" ani gurtu chesina mahonnata vyakti ..

Antaraani tanam pogottatam kosam andari kante mundu .. samajika bhojanaalu erpatu chesina maharshi ..

ila okati enti .. almost annitlo kuda pioneer ga nilichaaru .. peru kosam paritapinchakunda ..

Vinayak Damodar Savarkar - aka Veer Savarkar - Amar Rahe ..
"India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal" || "...with patriotism must be associated a real feeling for others... We must not forget that we have to teach a great lesson to the world... religion and philosophy..." - Swami Vivekananda
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Today..
Bharatajaathi muddhu bidda..
savarkar amarrahe
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