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Simpletruth:


You are hungry from morning. So if somebody comes and say, take the seed, plant it. Once it bears fruits, you will never be hungry. Are u o.k. With that?




meeru ye context lo e example icharo artham kaledu
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Truelies:

ee khap panchayat lo undedi kooda manushule kada....vallu BAD anukonnadi, migatha vallaki GOOD anipisthundi..and vice versa....how can khap panchayat decide societal values..??




if we take that particular group as a society, its their value system.
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khap panchayat unnayi... that part of scoiety lo avi GOOD/CORRECT antunnaru.. follow avutunnaru. but its wrong legally.




ee khap panchayat lo undedi kooda manushule kada....vallu BAD anukonnadi, migatha vallaki GOOD anipisthundi..and vice versa....how can khap panchayat decide societal values..???
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how do you define GOOD or BAD according to soceity? ide society lo oka person ni kontha mandi good antaru, same person ni inkontha mandi bad ani kooda antaru. where do you draw the line? everyone is part of society.




khap panchayat unnayi... that part of scoiety lo avi GOOD/CORRECT antunnaru.. follow avutunnaru. but its wrong legally.
live in relations unnayi.. aa part of society lo GOOD/CORRECT antunnaru... and its not wrong legally.
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any society GOOD or BAD anedi societal values meeda depend ayi untadi....




how do you define GOOD or BAD according to soceity? ide society lo oka person ni kontha mandi good antaru, same person ni inkontha mandi bad ani kooda antaru. where do you draw the line? everyone is part of society.
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Nice thread dude..
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Truelies:

oka democratic society lo good/bad anedi individual people/events ni baTTi kakunda oka constitution or chaTTa paranga, nyaya paranga decide chesuskovali.



any society GOOD or BAD anedi societal values meeda depend ayi untadi....
RIGHT or WRONG anedi meerannattu constitution meeda depends.
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Bottom line is, As long as you are not causing to harm/trouble/pain to others, it is GOOD/RIGHT.



bhayya... ours is land of limited opportunities and limited resources.
the fact that, u r faking resume or u r helping some guy copying (which helps in getting his job), u r denying opportunity to some one else.....
in that sense... helping someone is bad if it denies chances to someone eligible.
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Just a thought from ischool times-

Right/Wrong - Exam lo copy kottadam or copy kottanivatam is wrong

Good/Bad - but in reality, the way majority looks at it is people who help them by showing their papers during examination are considered good nice helpful and the ones who dont let others copy from their papers are considered bad/selfish etc...

It is interesting as to how one looks at this - Passing is like survival in India. You pass to get a degree and use your degree to get a job. All for survival and anyone who helps you with it is Good. (in the process what you are doing may be right or wrong by the rules)...

Same applies to Faking resume and so on... it is justified as it is for survival...

Now coming to politics... I think the same applies here... for e.g. someone like JP may be talking the right thing but will be taken as good by the junta fighting for survival only if it gives them the pass marks... they dont care what is right or wrong... yes give us reservations then you are good leader... give us freebies then you are a good leader...

bottom line - I am seriously confused... may be the definition of right/wrong is man made... and it needs to depend on the nature... anything for survival????




Mee analogy use chese edi correct cheppachu.

5th class lo copy kotti pass authadu. Next 6th class lo mundu nundi chaduko ani strict gaa undakapothe mallee 6th lo kooda copy meeda depend authadu. And this will continue for ever. That guy will be dependent on copying for ever.

Same with freebies. Freebies annavi temporary relief matrame ivvagalav. Temporary gaa avi ichi, education ichi, jobs provide cheste they will become contributing citizens.

Ala kakunda okka freebies ichi migatha anni vadileste they will be dependent on freebies for ever. They will be stuck in survival mode. This is what all major parties are doing.

Anduke 65yrs of independence taruvatha kooda we are not able to think beyond roti, kapda.
What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Scenario#1

- exam lo okadu paper chupisthadu, inkokadu copy kodathadu. both are happy. copy kottina vaniki chupinchina vadu good. chupinchaka pothey bad fellow.
- oka political leader janala sommu baga thini, thana vargam vallaki baga help chesthadu, so kotha mandi janam/vargam drushTilo he is GOD or more than that..
- oka rowdy gadu untadu, rapelu, murders chese vadu...inko "manchi rowdy" vachi veenni esethadu. so janam drushTilo manchi vadu avuthadu.
- oka satru desam sainikudu mana desam meeda yudhaniki vasthadu, mana desa sainikudi chethilo chasthadu.

Scenario#2 (same thing in different perspective)

- nyaya paranga exam lo copy kottadam thappu, paper chupinchadam tappu...nijayithi ga exam rase vallaki nashTam jaruguthundi kabaTTi.
- oka political leader janam sommu thindam chaTTa paranga nEram.
- oka manishi inko manishini champdam nEram...
- mana desam meedaki vachina vaanni manam 'satruvu' antam, but valla desam vallu ade vanni 'veerudu' antaru.

bottomline:

GOOD or BAD ane daniki oka fixed definitions levu, paina prathi case lo okaniki good jarigithey, inkokaniki bad jaruguthondi. so good/bad anevi RELATIVE terms when you compare individual people or incidents.

oka democratic society lo good/bad anedi individual people/events ni baTTi kakunda oka constitution or chaTTa paranga, nyaya paranga decide chesuskovali.

when the constitution/law fails to protect GOOD/BAD meanings, people try to draw conclusions from individual's acts or events.

artham kakunte manninchu, assal arthame lekunte kshaminchu... :D
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You are hungry from morning. So if somebody comes and say, take the seed, plant it. Once it bears fruits, you will never be hungry. Are u o.k. With that?
Round 1: Mahesh(puli..Khaleja..Orange..PVC)
Round 2: Mahesh(Teenmar..Dookudu..Racha..SRR
Round 3: Panja..BM..Evadu??..AN (pending evadu)
Round 4: GS..SVSC..??..SN
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PB

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will depend on the sample that you are looking at kada
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Ofcourse it depends on the sample. I am talking in general sense where the logic applies 90% of the time.

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anduke think less be happy
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I AGREE with above.
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Gsn1:

As long as one's ACTIONS are NOT causing any trouble/problems to others and gives pleasure to that individual, it is RIGHT.




will depend on the sample that you are looking at kada... the broader you think the complex it gets... anduke think less be happy
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PB

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I am seriously confused... may be the definition of right/wrong is man made...
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Regarding above, I have one simple rule, As long as one's ACTIONS are NOT causing any trouble/problems to others and gives pleasure to that individual, it is RIGHT. If the same thing can help others in addition to contributing to that individual's happiness, that is EVEN MORE better.

Bottom line is, As long as you are not causing to harm/trouble/pain to others, it is GOOD/RIGHT.
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Simpletruth:

but giving freebies isnt a bad thing?



depends on what the freebies are and at what expense... giving a color tv instead of some good infra providing healthy drinking water.. whose gain is it?
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good analysis. but giving freebies isnt a bad thing? can you say that you are paying taxed for the amount you only use? 80% of us get more from the system then we put in. guy getting freebies is on the lower end in out spectrum. thats it. we get support from govt in terms of infrastructure, jobs, security etc. poor guy gets in form of freebies. thats all
Round 1: Mahesh(puli..Khaleja..Orange..PVC)
Round 2: Mahesh(Teenmar..Dookudu..Racha..SRR
Round 3: Panja..BM..Evadu??..AN (pending evadu)
Round 4: GS..SVSC..??..SN
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Just a thought from ischool times-

Right/Wrong - Exam lo copy kottadam or copy kottanivatam is wrong

Good/Bad - but in reality, the way majority looks at it is people who help them by showing their papers during examination are considered good nice helpful and the ones who dont let others copy from their papers are considered bad/selfish etc...

It is interesting as to how one looks at this - Passing is like survival in India. You pass to get a degree and use your degree to get a job. All for survival and anyone who helps you with it is Good. (in the process what you are doing may be right or wrong by the rules)...

Same applies to Faking resume and so on... it is justified as it is for survival...

Now coming to politics... I think the same applies here... for e.g. someone like JP may be talking the right thing but will be taken as good by the junta fighting for survival only if it gives them the pass marks... they dont care what is right or wrong... yes give us reservations then you are good leader... give us freebies then you are a good leader...

bottom line - I am seriously confused... may be the definition of right/wrong is man made... and it needs to depend on the nature... anything for survival????
PK | PK | PK | Charan | Mahesh | JP | A R Rehman | Jessie

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