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     Diviseema Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 13462 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 14.96.69.75 Rating: N/A |
gandhi is unfit to lead any set of people. it may be hindui , gujju or indian. T DBing ki hanikaram. Dooram ga vundali | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11981 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
LOL..anduke antha mandini jaillalo pettaru...next inko 50yrs aithe Gandhi was a myth antaremo. Mahanubhavudu Einstein munde cheppadu.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113401 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: N/A |
vooru vadili safe places ki vellipondi minorities (hindus)ani just like gujarath lo 70,000 mandhi muslim familes jump jilaani ayinattu 2002 lo | ||
| Diviseema Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 13461 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 14.96.69.75 Rating: N/A |
//perfect call i would say.....85% muslimz vs 15% hindus vunna areas lo...muslims matha pichi tho meedha padi rape lu murders chesthu unte..... the best call is requesitng victims to QUIT from there// adhe quit or die 85% hindus and 15% muslims vunna choota , muslims ki chesunte appudu nee argument right. lekapothe gandhi is wrong. T DBing ki hanikaram. Dooram ga vundali | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11776 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
perfect ga cheppavu bhayya .. ee sentence lo chaala depth undi .. santhi anedi prapancham lo andaru korukuntene .. daani kosam paritapinchaali .. lekapothe out of the way velli manaki manam suicide chesukokudadu .. thats just against nature. well said. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113400 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: N/A |
noakhali ikkade ee rojullone : http://www.hrw.org/news/2002/04/29/india-gujarat-officials-t ook-part-anti-muslim-violence | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6119 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: |
annai, nee agenda and spin thelisinaa aduguthunna kaani kshaminchi cheppu.  ee quit or die ani ekkada annadu gandhi? nee udheshyam lo quit ante enti ikkada?balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11980 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Godhra lo 790 mandi mathrame poyaru. Unnadi mana Govt ye, aa lekkalu mathram correct to decimal point. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Diviseema Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 13460 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 14.96.69.75 Rating: |
enti difficult path. sakkaga thini thongondi , vaallu dayathalichinappudu legisi nunchundam annadu. mana janam whistles vesaru. india rocks. gandhi is a great and all time greatest WORLD LEADER(provided the world agrees his leadership), not an indian leader ani naa abhiprayam. T DBing ki hanikaram. Dooram ga vundali | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11979 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Yes, but just bcoz we are on the true side Gandhi did not call for blowing up British homes in India, or killing all british officers. All these acts can be justified by saying - "we are fighting for the true cause". Gandhi did not do that, and condemned that in the strictest terms. Asalu ala vache freedom vadhu annadu. That made all the difference in the British POV anukuntunna. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11775 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
bhayya .. lets limit the discussion to the topic at hand .. ippatike .. modi gang gujarat lo 2000 mandini lepesaaru ani mee gangleader OT kaaru koothalu koosthunnadu .. with knowing an iota of truth that the riots were not without a background, the number of dead were 790, and Modi's govt arrested more than 70,000 rioters in 2 days. Ippudu thread ki sambandam leni abaddalu post chesinanduku nenu OT ni boothulu tittocha? indaka distort chesaru ani anukuni .. kinda evarno .. "lkodukulu" ani tittadu OT .. does it apply to him at some level? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113399 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: N/A |
i read gandhiji call to hindus : Quit or die in that region perfect call i would say.....85% muslimz vs 15% hindus vunna areas lo...muslims matha pichi tho meedha padi rape lu murders chesthu unte..... the best call is requesitng victims to QUIT from there | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10756 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135 Rating: |
lol | ||
| Diviseema Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 13459 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 14.96.69.75 Rating: N/A |
tilak baa just votes kosam mathalni marchesthunnaru. daanimeedha endhuku meeru ekkuva concentrate cheyyaru. T DBing ki hanikaram. Dooram ga vundali | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113398 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: N/A |
please point me to a reputed news agency's own report OR reputed historians' websites or books or NEWS or something like that where it was recorded as 7,000 hindus were killed in noakhali except hindu xtremists' blogs nowhere on web i could read 7K were killed Incidents tappaka jarigaayi, vandallone lepesaaru manollani....no doubt...but 7,000 mandhini champeyyadam busss buss busss | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11978 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
True, alantappudu mooskuni kurchovachu. Civil disobedience ani mallee British vaadu kodithe inko chempa choopinchakkarledu kada. Yes armed resistance existed, but the greatness of Gandhi's leadership is that the masses embraced the far more difficult path he proposed, over that. Forgiveness, sin etc etc come into play only when we are on the side of truth, and good. Gandhi's weapon was the truth. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11774 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noakhali_genocide and aa link lo aa sentence ki original reference - Ian Stephens, Pakistan (New York: Frederick A. Praeger, 1963), p. 111. Hindu extremist blogs .. LOL India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6118 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
koncham dense ikkada. so have patience.  Gandhi's belief in truth and the british realizing that truth - anedhi correct ye. what is important is 'whose version of truth?'. british version for a long time was that colonialism was good for these native countries. our version was that it was national subjugation and unjust imperialism. it took Gandhi to come and prove to them that our version was the 'true' version. but ofcourse even that did not change them much did it? balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Vjavasi Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 10755 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 24.248.216.135 Rating: |
Gandhi politician ki takkuva emi kaadhu......Bose gelisthe resign chese daaka voorukola....Gandhi ideas are good for economics not politics Gandhi leka pothe okka desham kinda vundedi kaadhu ani cheppataiki emi reason ledhu.....infact it was patels force that united india.....india oka geographical/political entity ga gandhi lekapoyina kalisedhi.......the reason for so much confusion in india is its independence was out of compromise, not triumph | ||
| Diviseema Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 13458 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 14.96.69.75 Rating: N/A |
//plus world history lone strong ga record ayyi undedhi// lala jaragaledhanega baadha,. daanigurinchi matladataaniki kooda thappuga vundhi so called hindu dominant DB lo. inka india lo paristhithi cheppala. kompa kollerayipoddi. T DBing ki hanikaram. Dooram ga vundali | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11773 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
papam .. family, asthulu, valla traditions - anni kolpoyina oka sagatu Bengali Hindu, tanani paavu ga vaadukuni tana peru meeda jarigina rajakeeyam lo tanaki jaragina nastanni .. using historical resources vivaristhe .. adi burada ani paint cheyyadam .. manake chellu .. kanisam oka saati manishi vyadha ki kaneesa jaali kuda lenatuvanti jeevitam enduku? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113397 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: N/A |
seriously till this thread i never heard about noakhali incident(may be my ignorance ?)....google chesthe matha kalahaalu or oneside ga muslimz hindus ni champesaaru ani ardham ayyindhi..champese untaaru....mana Modi gang gujarath lo 2,000 mandini sampinattu but i doubt those Noakhali numbers ......... ee hindu extremists blogs lo raasina 6,000-7,000 hindus were killed anedhe fact aithe danni asalu indian history lone black day ga 6,000 years jarupukunevaru prajalu plus world history lone strong ga record ayyi undedhi | ||
| Diviseema Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 13457 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 14.96.69.75 Rating: |
gandhi is great. alaani athani wrongs disco cheyyadam lo thappuledu. india lo edho dowrbhagyam. vyakthi pooja ekkuva. oka vyakti ki baanisa ayipoyaka inka aa manishi gurinchi matladina kopam vachhesthundhi. gandhi gurinchi entha matladukunte antha manchidi desaniki , manaki. aayanni thqappupattalani kaadu. alanti great personalities gurinchi research chesthe manasika vikasaniki thodpaduthundhi. T DBing ki hanikaram. Dooram ga vundali | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6117 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
not a sin but then we had no power to fight against the british. the failure of 1857 was pretty devastating for many in the country. and british only got even more aggressive after that. the congress was a bunch of elites who had good intentions but no idea how to go about. and that's when Gandhi came as a breath of fresh air. dont forget that armed resistance existed before and after Gandhi. but it did not multiply because the british were super effective at suppressing it. they controlled the supply lines and isolated the militants. balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Hero Side Hero Username: Hero Post Number: 3063 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 108.65.110.4 Rating: N/A |
Nobody is perfect.. gandhi lanti charismatic leader world lo ledu. never before ,never after every incident ki 1000's of views untai...we cant blame gandhi | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11772 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
asalu creation emi ledu .. jarigina incidents ni .. sources cite chesi quote chesadu .. antaku minchi Gandhi ni okka tappu mata kuda analedu .. then you should stay back and let others read and discuss, why did you jump into the fray? btw - a document only 30 pages, not even 100. kanisam open chesi cheppala, adi distorted ani .. what a debater you are .. LOL India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113396 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: |
Gandhi antha mistakes chesthe voorukune daniki pichi janam evaru leru...naadu nedu yenaadu ainaa society lo voorukoru....as a matter of fact our beautiful democracy(no sarcasm) lo Gandhi pettina candidate ni kuda vodinchaaru party elections lo...it means Gandhi emi supremecourt + parliament + constitution kaadhu prapancham lo unde daridraalu anni Gandhi ki chuttadaniki RSS chandasavadulu edho okati eekalu peekutune unnaaru just for the reason their own RSS nadhuram godse killed gandhi danni cover chesukodaniki buradha burada buradha | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11771 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
may be 'we' are building up those confidence levels of our nation by sticking to truth I get what you are saying. Am also only trying to keep it positive. No blood baying for Gandhi. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11977 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Annai Nenu anni rakalugaa vestunna meeku thagalatledu. British POV lo totally agree. Civil disobedience need not be combined with non-violence. That is what Gandhi did. Non-violence lekapothe disobedience kooda vaddu annadu. Hindu Religion POV lo choosina, basic human nature POV lo choosina non-violence goes against the tide. Why should so many hindus follow it, and follow Gandhi. Same dress, leadership skills etc meeda debba pade varake kada. This is the reason anukuntunna -
What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113395 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: N/A |
ilanti bokkalo pdf lu 10000 create jeyyochu....raasina vadu emaina unbiased research scholar aa ? aa 100 la page la junk views chadive opika ledu..... 10 sentences lo neeku emi ardham aindho cheppu... Incident , Gandhi role , why gandhi was wrong ? explain pls | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11770 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
Just hit and run pigs ekkuva DB lo .. content discuss chese scene ledu .. but ardam pardam lekunda oogesi .. see I fought him ane self satisfaction is such a low life thing to do. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6116 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
it will happen when the nation gains enough strength to 'confidently' relook at the history and analyze what happened more objectively. We are still struggling and the 'father of nation' is a great coordinating device; and I think should not be disturbed too much. ;) for ex: in the US, george washington is revered as the founder, father and the writer of constitution. all kids are taught the positive aspects of this man and cities and streets are named after him. he was as worse a slave trader as you could get. even though he repented several times about the practice. but then such 'positive' stories help a nation feel good and stay united.balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11976 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
150 postlu paddayi. Better ga em cheyachu sevavivvandi ani oka 3 sarlu adigaa. Hindu majority areas choose cheskuni noakhali tho poti padi muzs ni veseyandi ani cheppala? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11769 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
burra dobbinda? adi raasina aayana .. he is a descendant of the East Bengal victims. And he clearly gave references to every quote he used in the PDF. Just goes to show that you have not read the document. not even one page. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Shikari Hero Username: Shikari Post Number: 11697 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 183.82.161.242 Rating: N/A |
history ela tagaladithe enti?...desam tagaladuthunte ippude manam em peekuthunnam anedhi important. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11768 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
istamochinattu boothulu vaade mundu, andulo edi "distorted" oo cheppu .. anavasaram ga oogaku .. neeku okati "distorted" ani telisindi ante .. correct ento kuda teliyali .. care to post that correct one here. Content discuss cheyyaleka distorted ani branding chesesi tappinchukovadam chaala cheap .. just shows your level of intellect. Gandhi ni evaru vimarsinchaledu ee thread, not me atleast and yet you portray it as such that I have. I only pointed to what I consider a blunder and the reason for it. But from the very first post of yours, you just tried to stop me from critically analyzing gandhi and his acts. But I did expect this from you. Not surprised at all. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Hero Side Hero Username: Hero Post Number: 3062 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 108.65.110.4 Rating: N/A |
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| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113394 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: N/A |
Scientific paddhatullo research chese books emaina chadavochu gaani mana mangali bhaavajalanne reflect chese ilanti pdfs bochedu dorukutaayi asaduddhin batch lo kasab ganni support chesthoo raase PDF views kuda circulate avutaayi alaage ee matha pichi moodha mudanashtapu RSS chandasavadulu kuda Gandhi meeedha buradha jalladame pani as if Gandhi was hindu hater atanemaina politician aa votes kosam edho okati cheyyaniki? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11975 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Answer this. Gandhi might have known that non-violence will work against the British based on their Christianity roots. Same religious roots POV lo non-violence Hindus follow avvali ani ledu. Ye rakam gaa choosina British dushtule. Shikshinchadam is not a sin, right?
What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6115 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
guess you are talking about satyagraha. I thikn the more powerful weapon was civil disobedience. even though satyagraha was the background 'concept', the 'action' was disobedience. and that's what appealed to indians. and the fact that he employed that successfully in south africa was a 'proof of concept' for the average indian. this was the innovation and indians adopted it. balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113393 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: |
"Maa taatha alaa chesi undakapothe na !!" ani charitra loni prati okka incident ki chaaana kaburlu cheppocchu... Gandhi/Venkayya/Pullayya evarainaa aa rojullo edhi best solution aithe adhe chesthaaru....kavalani evaru mistake cheyyaru, vallaki kuda aanati society emi antundhi ano prajallo -ve reaction untundhi ane pressure annnii untaayi...PLUS evaina mostly collective decissions ye....gandhi main ayyundochu konnitlo Gandhi edho aarojullo supremecourt , parliament, constitution anni okkade ayinatttu ee distorted PDF lu raase lkodukulani cheppu tho kottali | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11974 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Precisely. Gandhi ni prathee daniki vimarsinachaka pothe history teliyadu ani kondari opinion. But ee thread lo raise chesina issue lo kooda ippati varaku better solution evaru cheppaledu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11767 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the posting bhayya. Alage, "talachukuni baadha padatam" kosam thread veyyaledu. Our public discourse has been hijacked by some unreal history and principles. And those very principles were responsible for a huge section of people suffering, we have to learn from those mistakes/principles, correct them and learn to not repeat them again. Those are very costly mistakes for which we are still paying. We can continue to honor Gandhi, bcoz not his entire life has been stained. And regarding fans, you just have spelled it. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11973 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Tamud shivaji ni quote chesi, hindu dharmam gurinchi telsuko ani inkokallaki cheppatam kaadu. Manam type chesinde manaki artham ayyindaa annadi chooskovali.
Shivaji did not even the FAMILIES of muz aggressors. Bcoz he knows they may have nothing to do with the aggression. Alantidi Godhra lo karsevaks ni champesaru ani state motham retaliation justified antunnavu. Chanipoyindi evado, rail bogey ni burn chesindi evaro, just same religion ani janalu champeskovacha. Daani peru spontaneous retaliation aa? Em nerpadayya neeku shivaji? Paigaa same karsevaks, riots jarigindi same districts ani justification okati.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6114 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
mistakes happened. many had blood on their hands. inka thalachukuni baadha paddam waste. dont think most who praise Gandhi do not understand his mistakes. balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11972 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Ante oka syllabus undi. Aa school lo hindu rastra, akanda bharat, how Gandhi was responsible for these not happening etc cheptaru. Thread motham chadivithe artham autundi..
British POV wise meeru cheptunna dantlo point undi.. Kanee Hindus non-violence follow avvalani ledu gaa. Dress like aam aadmi can give him an audience, that is where it ends. Lakshala mandi cheyyi ethakunda lathi debbalu thinnaru non-violence ani. Gandhi message lo truth janalaki artham kakapothe thintara? Asalu aa path lo oka 10 mandini nadipinchatanike it takes extra ordinary leadership. It takes an extra ordinary nation too to understand it. But that nation disappeared long ago. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11765 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
correct. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11764 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
I donno what "syllabus" you refer to. I only read history. Neeku insinuations level daati discuss chese scene ledu ani telusu. So, you can happily go around arguing Noakhali with Godhra and think one is just/unjust. I will limit myself to the subject I want to discuss, not "argue". India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6113 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
what do you mean? balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6112 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
from when have Hindus only appreciated Hindu ideas? Gandhi's appeal to Hindus was not because of his forgiveness or sinner concept - he used that against the british effectively. hindu indians do not care nor did they even understand half of what he was doing to the british. his appeal was because here was a leader who understood the length and the breadth of the country, dressed like them and spoke like them. not one congress leader before Gandhi had ever traveled the country in 3rd class compartments, nor dressed like an aam aadmi. to top it, he was also a barrister who could talk english, lived in england and handle the british in their own language. balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11971 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Evari concepts hollow annadi nenu prove cheyakkarledu anukunta..basically syllabus chadavani vallu bagane alochistaru kotha lokam lo lekunda
Sivaji ki unna budhi lo manaki 0.1% unna Godhra lantivi support cheyam...killing innocents = "spontaneous" retaliation ani justify cheyam. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11970 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Going by this Gandhi should never appeal to hindus. But he did.
What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11763 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
Hinduism lo forgiveness leda? adi nee understanding of Hinduism then! You neither understand Dharma or Kshama, I guess! Asalu Hinduism beauty is, it only asks one to take up weapons for war as the last resort, but it sure asks to fight. That too only per Dharma, meaning following just practices, weapons, not attacking innocents, etc .. And thats what has been brought into India's "Nuclear Weapon Deterrent". No first use, but use of nuclear weapons for maximum damage and stopping escalating conflict. Shivaji Maharaj, the maratha emperor fought around 500 wars in India mostly with Muslim/Mughal chieftains around India. But in no war did he ever extract a bounty from the subjects or kidnapped the wife/wives of the opponent. He even made sure those people dont face hardships. Thats called the "dharmic" way of war. You need deep understanding of Hindu dharma before commenting that Hinduism doesnt have the concept of forgiveness! Very hollow arguments. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11762 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.220.248 Rating: N/A |
Thanks bhayya. You are the single sane poster in this thread. You actually showed it how stark your posting is wrt others in this thread discussing on hyperbole. This thread is not about bashing Gandhi or anywhere close. It is only to discuss how a huge number of people (around 30 million) suffered due to an inept leadership, while also giving some due credit to the role Gandhi did play in taking the "independence movement" to the aam-Indian. Wow, some hilarious posts included tangents like - Akhanda Bharat, Modi, 2002, Kalinga, Ashoka, Bose .. what a consistency in posts irrespective of threads, amazing I say. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6111 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
ledhu. but that is what he learnt from xtianity and applied against them. what do you do with islamists? balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11969 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Hinduism lo kooda ledu gaa concept of forgiveness? Dusta shikshana annaru, dustunni kshaminchamani analedu. I think Gandhi believed in truth more than the religion. He thought that when you stand for truth, without being violent, it will make the perpetrator of violence realize bcoz he also knows what the truth is. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 6110 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115 Rating: N/A |
clearly Gandhi understood christianity better than he did Islam. his tactics worked against the british because he appealed to their innate xtian concept of sin, forgiveness and protecting the weak. he made the british gov generals look like a bunch of uncivilized brutes - back in their homeland, a christian land which understood good and bad. Islam is not a similar religion and has no concepts of forgiveness; and Gandhi failed in evolving a strategy to work against that. the same template clearly did not work and would not have worked. if he had 20 more active years, he could have probably come up with something. but that's all conjecture now. balupu s/o gelupu | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11968 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Pak secular coountry peruke... Communal feeling tho form ayyindi...mana okkallake kaadu syllabus, akkada kooda undi syllabus batch. Secularism ni thokkesaru, you see the result. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35976 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
LOL Jinna speech soodu oka paali. Pak form ayinappudu pakistan was secular country nay. anyway, not interested in this thread anymore, bye ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11967 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Pak, Bangla are not secular...intha chinna logic ela miss ayyaru? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35974 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
mari pak, bangla lo hindus endhuku peekaledhu? bhalay septhaar
adhay cheppedhi, manam majority untay, no consideration for others. manam minority avvagaanay ekkada leni syllabus ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11966 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Velli same christians, Sikhs ki hindu rastra concept chepte laagi okati peekutaru.
The no threat comes bcoz India chose to be secular. Syllabus lo unnattu hindu rastra ante ee patiki kukkalu chimpina vistari ayyundedi. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35972 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
evarannaaru OT? Paritala naa? ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 113391 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 98.226.57.134 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi edhava, Modi mahanayakudu  | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 12853 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.177.241.31 Rating: N/A |
That was rather amiss of me -Meeku kuda  Actually thread anta chadavaledu - time inclination rendu ledu - only skimmed thru and read the last few posts The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35970 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Yesss Hindus, Sikhs and Christians stayed in India, becoz they have the feeling of unitedness. Migathaa batch ki, memu ekkuva untay, seperate identity kaavaali. Memu minority untay, secularism kaavaali...anay mindset The reason more muslims stayed in India is not becoz of love for secularism, but becoz of financial situation and no threat in India. whereas, Hindus ki aaa safety ledhu, in pak and bangla. That is why, their numbers went down from double digit percentage to single digits. rest kookatpalli theory syllabus ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11965 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Religion batti chooskunte, after Hindus, India lo join ayyindi ekkuva muzs ye. Lakhs preferred staying in India even after the partition. Gandhi, and the then national leadership united everybody. Kaani syllabus lo Hindu kings avvatam valane joined in India, anduke Hyd lo problem ani cheptaru.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6120 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
north east kirastanis koodaa join ayyaru...mee kochen kii answer naa kante meeke baga thelus....answer is...." andaroo talib gallantha vedhavalu kaadu kabatti"...... so, cheppedhi enti ante, gandhi valla hindus ki jarigina chedu kante, jarigina manchi ennoo ennoo retlu ekkuva.... | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35969 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
then why punjabi sikhs joined india? thet are not hindus ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11964 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
EE thread ni single hand tho 100 kottinchindi nenu, and no compliments on my patience..  What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6118 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
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| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35968 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
fake baba fans, lol ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6117 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
not true...raja raja chola and rajendra chola attacked singapore, malaysia, thailand, indonesia..etc.....their descendants ruled those kingdoms for several centuries | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35967 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
True, I am not discrediting Gandhi. But andhari enemy okkaday (British gaadu) avvadam valla kooda, unity vacchi undocchu naaku ardham kaanidhi, gujarathi, odissi, malayaali, sambaar etc andharoo unite ayinappudu...why not east bengal, west punjab and sindh? ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 12852 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Mee patience ki The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35966 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
eee list lo ki, East Bengal, West Punjab, Sindh raadha doctor saab?
ledhandi, muslim leaders ni emi anatledhu, meeru koncham relax kandi ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Netra Megastar Username: Netra Post Number: 22378 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 69.53.237.65 Rating: N/A |
inthaki gandhi etani decide sesindru.. traitor or father on nation?? appatlo andhra bhoomi lo gandhi ni thittudu soosi eseyydame correst anipinchindhi.. ippudu metthabai alochistte what he has done and achieved is remarkable.. mistakes antaara intha pedda fight ni lead chesetodiki aa maathram mistakes thappavu.. narakadam ni justify seyyadam ante aa lekkana seema faction kooda right ee kadha.. some where it needs to end ani thaata uddesam emo.. ayina konni thaata panulaki kopam vassina still he is the real "LEADER" and of the greatest human being.. alaantollu appudappudu pudathaaru.. respect him YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11963 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Gurujee meeru syllabus teliyakunda matladutunnaru... Syllabus lo emi undi ante India unite ayyindi Hinduism ane roots valla. Daniki Gandhi, Patel peekindi em ledu. Inkoti, 500+ princely states antha easy gaa Indian union lo kalavataniki kooda hinduism ye karanam. Patel peekindi em ledu...
RAja Jaichand vi, Prithviraj vi same roots kaada ani matram adagoddu.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6116 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
mestaru meeru telisi aduthunaara theleeka aduguthunnaaraa leka thelisii theliayanattu aduguthunnaaraaa...what do u expect from nizam and his rajakars...aadiki chance vunte iran loo ainaa nimajjanam chesevadu...i am not supporting them...but gandhi theesukunna approach valla hindus vidipoledhu, unite ayyaru antunnaaa.....antakamundu vandala samvatsaralaloo leni unity vachindi telugus, tamils, marathas, gujs, etc..madhyana...anduke desam okkatigaa nilabadindhi...inka patel...hydbad ante, nehru cabinet approve chesinake kadha patel action theesukundhi nizam gadi meedha | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11962 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Hindu dharma parirakshak lu PM lu, central Home minister lu ainaa dikku diwanam ledu kaani muz leaders, MLAs adagala? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35965 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
True, but which way it is related to pakistan, other than religion? why he wanted to join pakistan, when Patel ......... Geographically, culturally, it is more into India kadhaa? ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6115 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
it was not part of british India | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35964 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Kashmir lo nunchi Pundit gaallani thanni tharimesthey....dhikku dhiwaana ledhu, eee roju ki. what the H. is secular india doing now? intha peddha desham lo, okka muslim leader ayinaa adigindaa...what is this injustice ani? Amarnath yaathra ki velthunna pilgrims, temporary tents vesukuntay...Kashmir population numbers change avuthaayanta, kashmir assembly lo, MLAs argument shameless ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35963 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Mari Deccan Hyderabad ???
eee roju ki kooda, India lo communal riots regular gaa ekkada jaruguthaayo thelisindhay gaa ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6111 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
"akhanda bharat" is a very romantic idea yaaaa... ...in this fairy tale, india is treated just as a huge land mass, and not as a nation that can live and thrive together... | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11961 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
akkada syllabus lo emuntundi ante if this had happened, hindus would have united and outnumbered muzs, and driven them out.hindurastra would have formed. Mana kalala hindu rastra did not form bcoz of Gandhi....cut cheste
What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6110 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
no, not "just hindus"....it iz tamilians, telugus, marathas, mallus, bengalis, sikhs, hindi speaking people, guajarathis....etc.. northwest and north east vallu veru annadhi thelisindhe kadha...that's why they are not part of india now...intha chinna logic miss kyoon? | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6109 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: |
also, u have to look at gandhian non violence in the bigger picture...it was not just a tool to fight the british, but also to unite the Indians....if u read the history of our freedom struggle, many leaders, right from 1910' to 1920's have repeatedly proposed that congress should adopt the motion of "complete independence or swarajya" and strive towards it....but gandhi kept on rejecting that proposal until late 30's....the reason: "Indians are not ready for self rule, yet"..... if indian masses were armed with weapons, to fight the british...what do u think would have happened after the british left India? they would have turned those guns against each other...hindus against m'slims...and vice versa...marathas against rajputs, sikhs against others, tamils against others...etc....India was a recipe for disaster, if the masses were armed to fight the brits...it was never one country, and if everyone had a gun, it would have never remained one country....without gandhi, we would have still gotten independence, but we would have not been one big nation..this is the biggest achievement of Mahatma...and that is why he is the Father of our nation....gawd bless | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11960 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
1200AD ki 1900AD ki theda teliyakapothe maakoo navvostondi What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35962 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
antay appatlo kooda, Gandhi gori ni believe chesindhi, secularism ni believe chesindhi, only hindus ye ani kavi baavam saar eee theory Mohd Ghori ki, Prithviraj chowhaan ki, cheppandi navvukuntaar ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11959 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Kodithe thirigi kottu anataniki, vaadu mana matham vallani champestunnadu ani egadoyataniki gorrelu kavali. Vadu kodithe kottaku ante follow avvali ante alochana kavali bcoz it goes against the most natural human instincts. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6108 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
ok | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 16020 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
bottom line ettandi | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35961 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
LOL Independence occhi 65 years ayyindhi. Eee roju ki, gorrelaki Gandhi kanapadithey votes guddhuday guddhudu. Be it Sonia Gandhi, or Sania Gandhi. Malleee before 1947, people ignoring Gandhi.
LOL ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11958 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
LOL..ee comparison aanimutyam. Mughal kings became kings by the sword, and killing people. With Gandhi people had the free choice to ignore him. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11957 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Asalu Gandhi ki antha control unte janalu enduku kottuku chastaru? Fasting chesi pranala meedaku techukunte kaani aagala riots. Riots aapataniki mallee gandhi kavali... What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11956 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi leader gaa emerged bcoz people accepted his path, and believed that his path is the right way to freedom. Janalani rechagottadam easy ne, eduti vaadu kottina thirigi kottaku ani convince cheyadame kastam. Gandhi cheppindi correct kaadu anukunte fasting ki bhaya padalsina pani ledu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6107 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
no, he did not have much control on the muslims in northwest and north east...maulana azad, frontier gandhi lanti kontha mandi thappithe, gandhi thoo paatu congress loo vunnavallu chala thakkuva...they were all with muslim league | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6106 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
if patel was allowed to handle the situation, there would have been civil war...and India would have never come into existence...there would have been 20 countries in the subcontinent, just like europe | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6105 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
kaakateeya time loo mughals leru...delhi sultans lee...but i'm sure u got my point....marathas meedha fight chesina mughal generals andaroo so called rajaputru leee... inka patel, nehru vishayaniki vasthe gandhi made the right choice.....patel is a great man..no doubt...but aa candidate bhavajalam veru....india needed a much more secular PM at that time...and when i say secular, i don't necessarily mean religion....for example hindi language godavani nehru correct gaa handle chesadu....also, states reorganisation based on languages....he made sure that india is a loose federation, and it worked out great....force thoo hindi/cowbelt bhavalani migatha states meedha rudhali ani choosthe, india as a country would have been a disaster....of course, oka dynasty create chesi sachadu, mana dourbhagyam kii | ||
| Teluguhero Comedian Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 1075 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 24.129.105.123 Rating: N/A |
what i meant we need to change our ideologies/approach if some someone try to attack our country or divide our country.I think if Ghandi allowed other people like Patel in decision making and if patel handled the situation before the partition, the country would have been in different shape now. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 12851 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
LOL - enduku argument -Gandhi chesinavi anni tappule - asalu Gandhi Bhagat Singh ni pardon cheyinchi unte, mana right wing sodarlu cheppinattu Bhagat Gandhi ni overshadow chesi unte, chakkaga desaniki oka marxist, atheist, secular leadership undedi - right wing vallu happy ga retire ayye pani Pone bose ni ayina lead teesukonichina aryan zindabad anukune pani emito ee gola - pone aa lessons emito , present day lo ela implement cheyyalo cheptara ante - adi ledu Teluguhero - Kalinga yudham ee dharmam valla madhya jarigindi - enduku jarigindi? Asokudu yudham taravata Buddhist ayyadu kada - mundu hinduvu kaada? The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35960 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Rajput kings andharikee, okadi maata vinay sance ledhu, appatlo. whereas British India lo, Gandhi goru single leader gaa emerged annatlu, just like moghul empire. oo antay hunger strike sesi black mailing with masses annatlu, doctor saab ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9935 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
, ala ani kaadhu.. tilakam baadha enti veera maranam ayithe voook, but ila santhi kosam amayakulu pranalu kolpotam visaara karam ani battam line anukuntunna.. neways, ee tune baagundhi. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6104 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
enti hindu meeda atrocities gandhi time lonee start ayyaayaa? anthaka mundu 10 centuries gaa jaruguthunnaii...appudu gandhi ledu kada...mari so called hindu parirakshaks appudu hemi peeking ? oh yeah..let me guess...the so called rajputs were busy mixing their blood with mughals and fighting against other hindu kingdoms, including kaakateeyas and marathas. | ||
| Teluguhero Comedian Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 1073 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 24.129.105.123 Rating: N/A |
No I'm not confused .As I said earlier our kings pardoned muslim kings when they won war against them.For example Ghazni invaded somnath temple 17 times and 18th time he destroyed the temple and siva linga and killed many hindus. According to historians many times Ghazni lost wars against hindu kings,but 18th time he killed all hindu kings. And also i agree with you that our kings never united when they fought war against muslim kings. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35957 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi ki, credit ivvaka povadam anay prasnay ledhu. Toss the coin and if heads, Gandhi is always good, if tails, Gandhi is always bad mind set manchidhi kaadhu anedhi naa yokka adhi idhi ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9933 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
baba, im no Gandhi. im just defending him for his ideology, we might not agree with him, but atleast give him credit for what he is. he might have been the wrong guy in the wrong times, but to be what he is, is something a normal human can achieve. same logic use chesina christhu, budhudu ne daivam chesaaru, ofcourse oka 1000, 4000 yrs back. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35955 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
appudu, ippudu, eppudoo laughable ye. Theory vinadaaniki baavuntundhi. Reality is always different MS goru ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11955 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Thamud chala confuse autunnavu. Asalu, kings unnappudu nonviolence enti. Hindu kings lost bcoz of lack of unity, anthe kaani nonviolence anatam valana kaadu. Uncivilized and barbaric annadi comes to individual. Ninnu evado kottadu ani vadini nuvvu velli kodithe retaliation autundi. Evadu kottado, vaadu mundu start chesadu kabatti nenu vaadi matham vaadu evadu kanapadina kodatha ante nuvvu kooda authavu uncivilized and barbaric. Retaliation, revenge etc anna musugu thodigithe kudardu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9931 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
avunu baba garu. he was the one. asal ki Ghazini goriki anni sances issar soosaru , hehe its laughable in a way .the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35954 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Pruthviraj chowhaan gaadu anukuntaa ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9930 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
yes, and why do we believe we are better than those muslim kings ? because of these ideologies, isnt it? if we were just like those kings, we might have used some cliches like "all is well in war and love" and carried on. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Teluguhero Comedian Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 1072 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 24.129.105.123 Rating: N/A |
I never said we prefer to hindu kings over Gandhi.What I said gandhi falied to learn mistakes done by our kings.I read somewhere our hindu kings pardoned (similar to Gandhi's non voilence principles)muslim kings, when they won war against them.They understood our weakness attacked again and again and finally ruled our country. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11954 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Aa gandhi nenu father of the nation ani nuduti meeda raskuni nenu em chepte adi cheyali annadu. Manandaram aayana banisalu ani decide ayyi chesamu. That is why Hindus suffered bcoz of him. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11953 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Every muz is not equal to the barbaric invader king. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9921 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
Good Night Tilakam, always a delight talking to you. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9920 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: |
chass typos that sassipothunna.. how can you say its inorganic. how is violenCE organic, and non-violence inorganic, both are ideas, and social conditioning. why is one religion more violent than the other? do you say the more violent religion is more organic? do you say vegetarianism is "IN"organic as it is less violent than the other ideas of "food".
if sword solved all the problem, "Dont" you think Gandhi would have been insignificant, i mean the idea. why do we see more beasts than humans, if violence or history infact worked? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9918 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
exactly, what lessons did we gain by violent history, you tell me the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9917 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
ne yenkamma, im talking about the idea, and not about who is getting affected.
how can you say its inorganic. how is violent organic, and non-violence inorganic, both are ideas, and social conditioning. why is one religion more violent than the other? do you say the more violent religion is more organic? do you say vegetarianism is organic as it is less violent than the other ideas of "food".
 ante ippatiki ippudu appa cheppa mante kashtam . neways, i think we are entering a pegionhole or alteast I am, because i dont undertand Gandhi - as much as i want to. I feel that his ways of doing things were just abit too advanced for a neanderthal like me.
its not as simple. if sword solved all the problems, do you think Gandhi would have been an insignificant, i mean the idea. why do we see more beasts than humans, if violence or history infact worked? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11761 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
Anyways, instead of going in circles and circles. I want everyone to read history, verify it across sources and common sense and learn lessons for future. Good Night. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35948 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Exactly ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11759 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
Lets choose the natural one and not some inorganically grown one. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11758 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: |
You are saying Gandhi was insensitive towards the pain/grief of fellow humans but was more sensitive towards the idea of killing others, only in order to protect your life. None can be so materialistic, leave leaders of today! Ok, lets assume that it is my definition/idea of a leader. But what is Gandhi's idea of leadership? Want to quote from "Hind Swaraj", his own writing? Precisely put. We need to disown the idea/approach of non-violence when dealing with beasts and their ideas/approaches. Simple. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9915 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
why should we prefer to hindu kings of myth or history, over gandhi? ofcourse, not taking away anything from those stalwarts. ideologically there could be different ways, a few very obvious, and a few difficult to fathom. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Teluguhero Comedian Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 1071 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 24.129.105.123 Rating: |
Non violence approach wont work with uncivilized and barbaric people . Gandhi ignored history and our Puranas. Hindu kings never attacked any country in the world but muslim kings invaded& looted our country and killed and many hindus. Then British ruled our country and it took so many years for us to get independence.Also in Ramayana and Mahabharata either Rama or Krishna never followed non violent path. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9914 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
grief is an outcome of attachment to an idea or material, if a person grieves its one persons emotional outcome, and it is apparent that Gandhi did not mind such grief, or may be did not grieve about more mundane ideas and materials. his grief could probably be more related to the idea of killing others, to which he was against. now, i dont know if gandhi was doing this for personal name and fame. if he his blame all you want. i personally i believe that my ideals fall short in stature to his beliefs. so i respect him there, i cant do it even if it meant fame and name to me.
see this is entirely our idea of a leader. hence, our inability or failure to grasp his role as a leader, if he really felt that he was the leader. his allegiance was to his religion in which he believed non-violent behavior is foremost. even if it meant, the annihilation of self (individually or as a society as a whole). the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11757 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi's great weapon of non-violence, ultimately brought grief to the more matured Hindus and fame and name to him. I am not sure why is anyone not accusing gandhi of materialistic desire for name/fame. I understand Gandhi or for that matter even Jinnah that they have individual convictions. As a human, I think a leader or someone assigned the responsibility of a father has a "responsibility" towards the respect, safety and dignity of his subjects/children. And my only point is, he clearly failed in his duty. We may honor him for his other deeds in life, but we should make sure, these historical wrongs are indeed judged and pronounced aloud, lest somebody from future cults may follow these "ideals" blindly and make their subjects suffer again. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9913 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
chasss typos he is the "father of the nation", "not" because he was "secular", or for that matter a "Hindu" by any standard of living. adhi neeku kooda thelusu anukuntunna i think we cant understand Gandhi, because we differ at the basic rule of our life. just like "HE" cant seem to understand a usual reaction of ordinary human to become a beast when opposed ideologically or otherwise. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9911 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
 the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9909 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
we all know the reason, its "religion", why beat around the bush and blame a few people for it. its the idea of one being superior to other.incidentally, or may be due to our maturity we belong to the religion which is not entirely savage.
that is GANDHI. he tried to show humans, that we can be much more than marauding beasts, even in the face of death and destruction, that to kill someone for our survival is not the way. you might not like it, i might not like it, but we cant deny that his weapon of choice, is much difficult to yield, than any of the weapons of a human can possess innately or materilistically.
he is the "father of the nation", because he was "secular", or for that matter a "Hindu" by any standard of living. adhi neeku kooda thelusu anukuntunna. i think we cant understand Gandhi, because we differ at the basic rule of our life. just like we cant seem to understand a usual reaction of ordinary human to become a beast when opposed ideologically or otherwise. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11756 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
sampestunnad baba .. Gandhi gurinchi DB lo thread esthe saalu .. either vere janam thodantha karsio .. or ee kurrod ila .. sambandam leni stuff tho karsio .. mottaniki Gandhi enduku ala chesevaado matram discuss cheyyadam kudaradu .. chass liberals .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35946 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Hindu majority muslim victims ...only partition appudu. Migatha appudu antha bomma ledhu. ekkadainaa jariginaa, thammullu first start chesinavi undocchu Antha dhaaka endhuku? Take AP today. Communal riots ekkada avuthai? Hyd, Mahabubnagar, Nalgonda, nizamabad, Bhainsaa...all muslim majority places. amalaapuram, rajamundry, peetapuram, srikakulam lo, hindus riots chesinatlu eppudoo sooda ledhu ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35944 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Hindu majority muslim victims ...only partition appudu. Migatha appudu antha bomma ledhu. ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11755 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
I want evidence for this. Else this is just fiction. 58 dead + some 50 more injured. These dead people primarily belonged to Ahmedabad and surrounding districts. And the riots also took place in those 7 districts. Neeku details teliyakunda vaadinchestunnav kabatti cheptunna. You please cut your crap and not post in this thread. This is just nonsense.
May be you should start answering my questions from the below then. Why did 10,000 Hindus die in Noakhali nunchi start cheyyi. Why did Gandhi ask Hindus to face death bravely varaku okkokkati cheppu, aa document chadivi. Those are my points. He is the "father of the nation", religious followers are not! Hope you get it. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35943 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Maaku oka religion ante nachadu. Modi byaad, corrupt, murderer, rapist ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11952 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Maaku oka religion ante nachadu, so Gandhi same policy ni vadakudadu ikkada..adi point. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35940 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Very good question. Vijayawada lo, oka anti social element ni evaro champesthey....4-5 districts burnt for a week. Uttha punyaaniki, matham picchi thammullu thindi ekkuvai, innocents ni champesthey....attaagay untadhi. 2,000 lo, excpet those 58, all others muslims emi kaadhu. more than 600 out of 2000 died are hindus too adhannamaata Gandhi goru oka thappu ni, rendo thappu tho balance sesthaaranna maata. british with muslims. OK, updated ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 9905 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
tilakam, whats the point, i fail to see. Gandhi simply stuck to his non-violent strategy, may be he is egocentric nut at a very basic level, but are the religious followers any different in that aspect? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11951 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
46/47 lo okka Noakhali lo kaadu, desam motham riots jarugutunnayi. Muz majority aithe hindu victims, hindu majority aithe muz victims. Ekkada aina thamari "justified retaliation" ye karanam janalu chachipotaniki. Ekkado manollani champestunnaru ani evado start cheyatam..
Different parts ki chendina vallu aithe different parts lo retaliate avvacha? Idem logic vayya.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11753 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
1) 1946/47 lo Noakhali ki retaliatory ga Hindus "offensive edi ani adiganu .. you could not answer. 2) You come up with 2002 expectedly. But peddle lies and half-facts. 2002 riots lo much less than 1000 poyaru ( I think its 790, including some 200+ Hindus). Godhra lo train kaalchesina, chanipoyina vaallu different parts of the state ki chendina vaallu. 58 people died. who rioted first, ane daaniki evari daggara concrete evidence ledu. Many muslim majority areas of Ahmedabad like Juhapura lo, first riots initiate chesaru anadaniki police calls/FIRs evidences unnayi. So you will have to eat crow on several accounts. 3) This whole argument of yours is irrelevant to this thread and qualifies to be called BS. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11950 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi religion vadukuni polarize cheyaledu janalani. Caste vadukola. Region vadukoledu. And that too he chose the most difficult path. Non-violence is not the solution ani easy path choopinchina evadu dekhaledu migatha vallani.. Kodithe inko chempa choopinchu anatam blackmail ani mee daggare nerchukovali. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11949 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Abbooo ee roju telsukovali. Gandhi any violence ki oke mandu vaadadu. Manaki against British bagane undi, against Muzs aithe hurt autunnamu...prejudice manalo pettukuni.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11948 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
eppatido akkarledu. 2002 Gujrat riots. More than 2000 people died. Idi "spontaneous" retaliation antaru thamaru, I know. Yes, burning of the train started it, but why should somebody residing in Ahmedabad, or Gandhinagar start rioting for something that happened in Godhra annadi naa question. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35939 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Ezzatly eee roju thelusunna vishayaalaki, sir hurt ayinatlunnaaru same old, one chempa, second bugga ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35938 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
JP ni follow avvadam konni rojulu maanesthey better emo sir jee. vote, paisal, saara..... people follow leaders for so many other reasons.... Owaisi, KCR emi paisal, saara poyaaru,voters ki ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11751 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
seriously, you are trolling in this thread without content. I suggest you to stop posting here. I dont like it anymore. You are just killing the content. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11947 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
LOL..oorukokandi, thatha pothe enti anukondi. Thatha manishiki 1000Rs panchatledu naa maata vinamani.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11750 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
ala Hindus ekkada chesaru ani vaadistunnav nuvvu? give me an example. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35937 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
akkada sir ki, old age lo chaadhastham vacchesindhi, just like any other old person. ooo antay chetla kindha hunger strike start chesay vaadu, Law abiding citizens ni black mail chesay vaadu. As usual, manchollay maata vintaaru, anti social elements will never listen DB lo manalani evadainaa thidithey, nimisham oorukom, ventanay retort isthaam. Hindus maathram, on a regular basis thatha maata vini oorukovaali mari. aada Kashmir lo pakistan war chesthuntay, thaatha pakistan ki paisal ivvaalani chetla kindha upavaasam ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11946 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
LOL...ekkado riot jarigindi ani ikkada memu retaliate authamu ante adi retaliation anaru. Danni kooda riot initiation ane antaru. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11749 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
nuvvu emi anukokunda .. mammalni anukomanakunda .. Hindus "initiate" chesina riots list ivvu. Nuvvu ee thread lo vaadistunna daaniki Hindus ekkadanna/eppudanna offenders ayyaremo telisipotundi. Lekapothe nee imaginary stuff based judgments may mislead a few people. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11945 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
BS. Ekkado Hyd patha basti lo Muzs hindus ni champesaru anukundamu. Daaniki Anakapalli lo Hindus Muzs ni champeste adi retaliatory fire autundaa? Even patha basti lo asalu ee vishayam tho yem sambandham leni oka muz ni champeste retaliation autundaa? Retaliation, and revenge can be taken on individuals. Not on religions. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11944 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Is this the solution you propose ante answer ledu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11747 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
Hindus oka certain place lo "offenders" ani oka example ivvu. From that era (1940-47). I will be glad. Note - Retaliatory fire is not offense, its only defense. Thats the principle on which we will judge. Is that ok?
Asalu nenu more violence in other areas is my solution ani ekkada cheppaledu. You can do better to manufacture such content from my posts. My whole intention is to show the hollowness in the "gandhian" principle when it comes to dealing with Muslim aggression towards Hindus. If we agree on discarding that principle in this problem, we can discuss solutions and move forward. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35935 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
victims ki thelusthundhi noppi. ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35934 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
"If the congress wishes to accept partition, it will be over my dead body" - Gandhi. Rest Gandhi Jee's stand on Khilafat movement and Mopla rebellion ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 8854 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.1 Rating: N/A |
gandhi garu history nundi emi nerchukoledu anukunta..briotish ola mundu esinattu islamic mobs mundu surrender ayyi dramalu aduthe motham race race ni wipeout chesi paradobbutharu barbaric fellows.. edhava sodhi ani.. Visalandhra book house, koti - one stop place for all telugu literature..(books,novels, literature etc).. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11943 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Noakhali lo Muzs offenders. Vallu akkada chesindi choosi inkoka sambandham leni Hindu majority place lo Hindus ade chesi, memu kevalam retaliation ante, Hindus kooda offenders ye autharu. Intha vadistunnavu kaani nee daggara kooda solution ledu aa problem ki, except to incite more violence in other areas and calling it "justified revenge". What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11746 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
Oka offender group ni oka victim group ni "equal" ga treat cheyyadame basic flaw in ones' rational thinking. And ee flawed equality lo nunchi vache decisions obviously undesired results ne istayi. Anyways, I am done with this disco. More than anything, I have discussed Gandhi enough. I leave the thread open and will only respond if I see some new unknown argument come up. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11942 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
How can equality be injustice to anybody. Edo okaru konchem ekkuva samanam anukunte thappa equality annadi injustice ela autundi. Okaru konchem ekkuva samanam anukunte danne prejudice antaru. Violence ki basis colonism aina, religious extremism ainaa Gandhi was consistent with his approach. Oka case lo ok ani, inko case lo thappu ante, aa change manalo vachindi...Did Gandhi say that nonviolence has to be used only against less barbarous opponents? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11744 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
I can see a difference in between Brits and Muslims. Muslims rioted almost every year in some corner of the country. British, though did exploit natives and kill them to suppress revolts, werent exactly so uncivilized. The degree of barbarism is less, in my view. Gandhi's approach towards treating Muslims (offenders) and Hindus (victims) equally is an idea born out of his personal observation that religion is personal and cannot be used to make/break nations (basically a neo western secularist notion). But the equality was injustice to Hindus (victims). Gandhi's appeasement of Muslims is a fact. And we did get the disastrous results for that and we will be getting similar results in the future for such a cataclysmic policy unless it is corrected. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11941 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
TT garu, so Gandhi ilaa cheyalsindi antara...idenaa mee solution..
Lekapothe em cheyalsindi antaru? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35933 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
India lo, Minority appeasement eppudu start ayindhi, evari valla start ayyindho, kaneesam eee roju annaa thelusukondi. It started before Indian Independence. After the independece, the immediate governments followed the same principles. Indian secularism ki, other real secularism ki, zameen aasmaan farak untadhi and this indian secularism started not this decade or last decade. Indian secularism concepts were from 1947 time. The only difference today is, they are asking votes in the name of religion and reservations. Manam alaa mundhuku veldhaam inka, eee thread lo nunchi ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11940 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Confusion naaku kaadu neeke. Muzs, or British Gandhis principle was the same. Ironically you were okay when the principle was used against the British, but not against Muzs. Isn't that prejudice? Don't tell me that the British did not kill any Indians. Did he ever say that if a Hindu kills a muslim, the muslim can retaliate? Or, you are not happy bcoz Gandhi did not give a call to all Hindu majority areas and take revenge on what happened in Noakhali? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11742 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
you are getting confused I guess .. let me explain .. against the Brits, he asked Indian people not to go violent, but limit the resistance at non violent protests (kind of okay, that can be understood as his method). When Muslims were killing Hindus repeatedly over the years, at all corners of the country (Moplah/Kerala, Calcutta, Noakhali, Punjab, Sindh, Delhi etc), every time, he asked Hindus to "face death bravely". Lots of difference in the approaches. He is clearly asking Hindus to commit suicide by not offering resistance. And Suicide is violence on self. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11939 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
secularism deals primarily with Govt, politics and its relationship with religion. Akkada matter two religious groups kottukunte Gandhi was preaching nonviolence. Deeniki secularism ki relation enti. Mee own definition icheskuni ade secularism aneskunte kudaradu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11938 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi has been saying the same since he came into public life. Appudu British against gaa, ippudu Hindu-Muz clash lo. My suffering should make the perpetrator realize the crime he is committing. Even if I die in the process I will not retaliate. Aa principle follow avvatam, avvakapovatam janala choice. Moreover his path was the most difficult. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35932 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
abba chaa Indian secularism is derived from the concepts of father of the nation annatlu. Secularism deals with keeping religion out of govt and politics ani 8th class social studies lo chadhivina. still remembers it. but that is in theory ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11741 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi was the epitome of "secularism" we are seeing today. If you deny this, you dont even have an iota of truth in your words. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Pulibongaram Side Hero Username: Pulibongaram Post Number: 5454 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 162.115.108.103 Rating: N/A |
that is western depinishan....not indian | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11740 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
ledu baba .. eppudo chadiva .. ivaala twitter lo chadiva, so thread vesa .. kaani problem is .. we are branded "extremists", comedy ga .. and that too by ignorant people? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11937 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
Deeniki secularism ki sambandham ledu. Secularism deals with keeping religion out of Govt, and politics. If u have a problem that is with non violence. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11739 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
Meaning the people wanted Gandhi to say "Hindus face death bravely" at that time? They agreed with this philosophy and leadership? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35931 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
ivannee eee roju chadhivinavaa nuvvu? or just posting here for others? Manam 20 years kindhatay sadhivinam andhukay eee thokka lo "indian secularism" antay chiraaku ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11935 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.254.96.172 Rating: N/A |
As I said again, I despise those statements. We honored Gandhi as the father of the nation not bcoz he descended from heaven, not bcoz Gandhi paid money to people to follow him, but bcoz people agreed to his philosophy, and leadership.
Gandhi lekapothe antha twaraga aagevi kaavu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11738 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
I dont think thats the reason why Nehru should have been pushed ahead of Patel. If thats the reason as you cite, I guess, he doesnt the great-ness that we attribute to his leadership.
hmm .. fact ee .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35930 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
ok Gandhi unnaa, lekunnaa.....Riots ekkadainaa years years jaragav ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Iamim Side Hero Username: Iamim Post Number: 4472 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 117.195.170.194 Rating: N/A |
Patel was from GUJ like Gandhi.. Gandhi did not want to get a bad name by siding with fellow GUJ.. more over British preferred Nehru.. for obvious reasons.. | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11735 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
this is mindless pacifism to me. Also abdicating and failing in the responsibility of a "father". India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11734 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.99.188.202 Rating: N/A |
He wasnt just a "leader", he had the responsibility of a "father" ..
But look at his statements/acts and discuss them ..
I would like to understand the reasoning behind those kind of statements to hapless victims who were murdered, raped or converted by the sword. I understand Gandhi, his experiments with truth, his ahimsa and convictions. But what is behind those statements? Justified or not is something we should analyze and understand. Because as we have honored him with a "father of the nation" title, we are at the risk of future "leaders" following him and asking our fellow Hindus to "face death bravely", because now thats the "ideal thing to do". India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11932 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: |
Practical or not janalu alochonchukuntaru kada. Gandhi emanna kathi choopinchi non violence follow avvamannada? Paigaa inko chempa choopinchali antene kastam, thirigi kottatam kante. As much I despise Gandhi's statements, I dont know what else the oldman could do. Finally he was primarily responsible to stop the riots elsewhere. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35929 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Leader anay vaadu, annee aalochinchaali. oka chempa meedha kodithey, inko sempa concept vinadaaniki baavuntundhi, but practical gaa jarigay pani kaadhu. ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11931 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Read, thank you What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11733 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
plz read the document. Dont comment without reading it. I am not interested in an "argument". India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 11930 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 68.228.239.66 Rating: N/A |
Janalu kottiku chaste daniki Gandhi em chestadu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11732 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
Intha varaku .. no body, including Gandhi or Nehru could convincingly explain it to the nation (atleast naa drustilo) .. Hope one day our historians would raise to such a level that they break the shackles of the past and actually analyse this particular Gandhi-Nehru equation without any partiality and bias. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 17442 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.166.52.164 Rating: N/A |
Sardar Patel and other genuine leaders undagaa thatha ee Nehru gaadi side yenduku teesukunnadoo! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Whyme Side Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 3935 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 184.39.240.10 Rating: N/A |
nenu tittadam ledu.. Gandhi goppa panul chesadu but kichidi lu kooda baane chesadu.. biggest mistake he did is siding with nehru | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11731 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
btw .. Gandhi ni tittinchatam kaadu naa uddesam ee thread veyyadam lo .. kaani we should learn from Gandhi and that era's innumerable mistakes (mistakes anakudademo .. sins analemo .. for millions of Hindus have been eliminated from earth!) and we should be open to accept only truth .. adi maatrame naa intention .. just clarifying .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 8851 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.1 Rating: N/A |
mana charithra chaduvukunte blood boil avvatam tappa emi jaragadu..charithra enduku present teesukuna same scenario.. Visalandhra book house, koti - one stop place for all telugu literature..(books,novels, literature etc).. | ||
| Whyme Side Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 3934 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 184.39.240.10 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi myopic gaa chaala pulihoralu kalipaadu | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11730 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
adigo .. meeru Gandhi ni abuse chesesaaru .. you are an extremist baba .. we wont discuss details any further .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11728 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
Life is good bro .. life is okay .. pelli ee year .. US .. no plans as of now .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 35921 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
rediff lo, 1990's lo ituvantivi chaala vacchevi. but mana janam nammaru, becoz father of the nation is final. everything is secondary Asalu Gandhi koncham past experience with communal riots in India follow ayyuntay...2 nation theory ki oppukunay vaadu kaadhu. okavela oppukunnaa kooda, East and West pakistan lo planning sarigaa chesi unday vaadu, thereby minimising so many lives of hindus and sikhs ippudu atlaanay untadhi. 2014 lo ardhamaithadhi. | ||
| Ntr_rocks Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks Post Number: 44671 Registered: 04-2009 Rating: N/A |
Kamal annai... How are you ya ? Howzz life ? Pellepudu ? US vache plans emanna vunnaya ? | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11726 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
saduvu oka saari .. taravata icons eskundaam .. discos seddam .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 6103 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 93.174.93.145 Rating: N/A |
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| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11724 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
'Indian history was distorted by the British' http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Kolkata/Indian-hist ory-was-distorted-by-the-British/Article1-1004972.aspx And we still consider the same history authentic? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 11723 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
http://www.eastbengal.org/noakhali.pdf Must read .. If anybody needs an intro to the subject - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noakhali_genocide India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda |
