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agenda blinds rationale ..
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Dada:

It is the bureaucracy and the overall economic environment that decide rather than a single individual or a few men at the top...

Good article.....good read....Of course nothing new - but those with an open mind and without any leanings / prejudice can read this....

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation /why-just-a-strong-cm-cannot-attract-investments/articleshow /18307915.cms




Mana A.Poo. Pradesh lo maatramu vunnavi dochukovadaaniki, raashtraanni diwala tiyyataniki CM baaga work ayyaadu last 5-10 years lo

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Investments - development anedhi - it is a different issue. regulated Investments and Services will usually bring in all round development.

but the article was about -Is it a CM / a single person who is responsible for Investments?
And the answer is obviously NO....as the stats and the history has shown....
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Dada:

There was significant Investments during that time especially after 2002.....




it raises another debate whether investment leads to progress & inclusive dev or not?
if Q is whether investment depends on CM or not. i dont give too much credit to individual for that.


Dada:

Ground reality ni evvaru choodatam ledhu....and everyone wants to believe in the wave created by the media



If i were a politician, i would have done same by projecting rosy picture..
but media and educated individual should play their part in this game.
Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created...
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Boston_baba:




There was significant Investments during that time especially after 2002.....

But the problem is politicians try and ride a wave and claim success for that.....and on the other hand, when they are responsible for wrong actions, they never claim responsibility.

And it is the bureaucracy and officials who play a bigger role than the CM himself.

So as you said - Ground reality ni evvaru choodatam ledhu....and everyone wants to believe in the wave created by the media
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nakithe idi kiran ni covering sese thread laaga undi ..... ofcourse cm + rains will have max% influence dont believe those BS articles ....
sanna ga untaru kaani.... Middle class danemma Shock bagundi by Con-Gress!!!
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1999-2004, india shining ani national media, AP zooming ahead ani AP media (primarily eenadu) entha udaragottina, reality manam chusam kada annai...
Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created...
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Dada:

Singur is a classic case in point



TATAs wanted it to be in singur till last minute, only when they come to terms with it that, its impossible they looked for other options (Guj and elsewhere).
if Guj is so-investor friendly, it shud have been the first choice.
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Dada:



nice article babai...
anduke stats chudandi. mee local ground realities chudandi. wt work is going on? wt benifits and quality if services they are gettting.. thats good enuf indicator for any governance. tokkalo news articles kadu.
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Dada:

Are Investments dependant on a CM???


article chadavale

thread itle ki answer yes
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Rock:

ap gone to dogs paid article




That is the point I am trying to make....not just about AP....but the difference between the perception created and the actual ground reality....

In 2011 WB was on a wave called change.......and the result has been disastrous for a state already in disaster.
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Urukondi annai ap gone to dogs paid article by cong or ysrc Cbn vacchi lokakalyanam chesi state ni save cheyyali ippudu
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Forget the positive effect...Can politicians have a negative effect??

YES is the resounding answer :-)

Singur is a classic case in point
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On the list of actual foreign investment for 2011, in fact, Gujarat slips to No. 3 in the rankings, with Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh gaining traction. Karnataka and Jharkhand replace West Bengal and Uttar Pradesh.

Investments in 2011 (actual) The proposed was much much higher

Maharashtra- Rs. 4671 Cr
AP - Rs.2439 Cr
Gujarat - Rs.2148 Cr
Karnataka - Rs.890 Cr

AP lo perception is - the state has come to a standstill....nothing is moving...there is no leadership in the state at all.....
A state in Western India - the perception is - that is the most developing part of the world...and has a dynamic leader...
And both states have done well....despite the huge difference in public perception.....
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Between 1992 and 2008, a substantial period of 16 years, the top five states where FDI made its way were Gujarat, Maharashtra, West Bengal, Uttar Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh, in that order. While Gujarat, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh were expected in the top five, the surprise entries were UP and Bengal.

During that period, UP was going through the Mandal-Mandir churn of identity politics and uncertain coalition governments, while West Bengal was under the Left party rule — factors which should have discouraged investment in these states.

"This proves very clearly that political leadership is completely irrelevant to holding on to investment or, at the very best, it is of transient interest to investors," says economist Bibek Debroy.

"What really matters is that the senior bureaucracy should be stable and efficient in dealing with business. These numbers basically reflect that. The chief minister of a state is less important as a factor."

Besides, of course, the fact that West Bengal was embarking on its own version of perestroika under Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, the then CM
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It is the bureaucracy and the overall economic environment that decide rather than a single individual or a few men at the top...

Good article.....good read....Of course nothing new - but those with an open mind and without any leanings / prejudice can read this....

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation /why-just-a-strong-cm-cannot-attract-investments/articleshow /18307915.cms

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