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Bushu
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Humpty_dumpty:

But not naturally anukuntunna




you mean, the US style education? parents ki awkward gane untadhi but pillalaki emi farak padadhu kadhaa. they dont know the alternative options.

ee kumaon aithey pure desi anxiety. 6 yrs ki india lo pillalu two digit multiplication sethunnaru, ikkada inkaa addition ye start kaaledhu. basic gaa peer pressure. by the time the kids are 12, ikkada kurrollaki undey independent thinking, mana india lo next to impossible.
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Bushu annai
Asians adapting yes
But not naturally anukuntunna
We are getting trained to not only get used to the system
But may master it too
If you subscribe to your local Telugu asso mailing list
You will see a bunch of coaching inst advertising
I saw similar stuff in sinkis
It is not a level playing field anukuntunna

7 yr old kee kumoan math classes
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Anand_n:

.the same problem the dean of IITM lamented with the onset of coaching schools taking most of IIT seats

Samething with SAT scores - earlier 2400 used to be a rarity - now its common place among asians Has the standard of students increased or rote learning ?




it's human that people will game the system, if not today, maybe tomorrow. So, the system needs to change and adapt itself. exams are but a destination and are easy to be tweaked around. I am not that worried about it. notice how the format of JEE changed over the years; and ofcourse the coaching instis are catching up very fast and IITs need to stay a step ahead somehow. and they will figure it out. SAT may not have been tweaked but they touched GMAT this year - since the asians are gaming the exam. you will see chinese students with a GMAT of 760 who can barely write a proper english sentence coherently. just mind boggling.
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yeah but isnt this in addition to the core system? a system where critical thinking is stressed upon more? this hasnt replaced the basic system, right?




True - not yet :-) But it will is what i am saying...E.g. the GT program is meant for kids who are exceptionally gifted or talented - the testing is an IQ/cognitive test that identifies these kids..you are not supposed to prepare kids for this test..because it is meant to measure raw intelligence..and in the program to foster that creativity on all various fronts

Once you start pumping kids into the program who have been coached to the testand made it in by rote - you get a selection of kids who are unidimensional thus diluting the whole program ..the same problem the dean of IITM lamented with the onset of coaching schools taking most of IIT seats

Samething with SAT scores - earlier 2400 used to be a rarity - now its common place among asians :-)Has the standard of students increased or rote learning ? :-)

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Anand_n:

The change is happening both ways - heavy asian population unna areas lo malli coaching colleges , coaching centres to get into GT (Really? I was pulling may hair out when I read that int he DB ), SAT 2400 coaching centres anni desi/asian contribution - thankfully my older one did not get impacted and I am hoping it will stay the case for the younger one :-)


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Anand_n:

heavy asian population unna areas lo malli coaching colleges , coaching centres to get into GT




yeah but isnt this in addition to the core system? a system where critical thinking is stressed upon more? this hasnt replaced the basic system, right?

Indian DBers opinion ento?
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Bushu:

idhi AP sodhi kadha annai







Anand_n:

heavy asian population unna areas lo malli coaching colleges , coaching centres to get into GT





Narayana, Narayana !!!
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Bushu:

dont think so. the basic tenets of the system are all soundly in the culture. by rote is not encouraged anywhere in the system. I see asians adapting to this style rather than forcing it on schools here.




The change is happening both ways - heavy asian population unna areas lo malli coaching colleges , coaching centres to get into GT (Really? I was pulling may hair out when I read that int he DB ), SAT 2400 coaching centres anni desi/asian contribution - thankfully my older one did not get impacted and I am hoping it will stay the case for the younger one :-)

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Humpty_dumpty:

power to the sinks, desis...middle class competition takes over
inevitable anukuntunna




dont think so. the basic tenets of the system are all soundly in the culture. by rote is not encouraged anywhere in the system. I see asians adapting to this style rather than forcing it on schools here.
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america education system same idhay track lo untaadhi emo

but 1-2 decades lo students coming out might not be in the same boat which is housing the critical analytical thinkers today
power to the sinks, desis...middle class competition takes over
inevitable anukuntunna
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yes i see a change in the future..it will go from bad to worst
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Bushu:

bayata states parledhemo.



manollu bayata states lo kuda kampu lepthunnar.. narayana and sri chaithanya presence delhi lo kuda undhi..jr colleges ye kaadu.. they are now in elementary/middle and high school system as well.
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Truelies:

inko 50 years aina kooda same Eamcet, doctor, engineer... anthey..




idhi AP sodhi kadha annai. bayata states parledhemo. mana kaada dabbu, daskam pichi chaana ekkuva. thappu ledhu, somebody has to be like that.

but naa question is not about professional pichi. education style. schools lo inka adhey rotha home work untadhaa? emanna better aindhaa ani.
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no change... inko 50 years aina kooda same Eamcet, doctor, engineer... anthey..
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Do people see a change in the system from when we were growing up? People pay such crazy fees for their kids. do you think the system has evolved from rote learning to some critical analytical learning? I like the US style system a lot better than the indian style school education.
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