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Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8306 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.188.111.221
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:32 pm: |
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@katthi, WRT320 is dual band not simultaneous. You have to get a new router. |
   
Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6089 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 24.91.33.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:13 pm: |
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simbu babai na wireless router WRT320N linksys vadidi.. it is either taking 2.4mhz or 5mhz. it is not allowing me to have both. looks i need to have another outer for non-n computers oo pali seck sesi seppu Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Ntr_rocks
Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks
Post Number: 41219 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 08:30 pm: |
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Bmw007:
Annai...GC ragane eti plan chesaru.... |
   
Bmw007
Side Hero Username: Bmw007
Post Number: 9963 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 24.6.218.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 08:28 pm: |
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Simba:
Thanks Bro 08/24/2012-167.4 lbs 02/8/2012-181.2 lbs 01/04/2012-187 lbs |
   
Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8305 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.188.111.221
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 08:25 pm: |
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Bmw007:Bro edi konamantavu...madi duplex most of time connected to 2 devices + Tv
ASUS RT-N66U, Netgear WNDR4300, TRENDnet TEW-692GR, Linksys EA3500 These are top-of-the line current generation routers, running around $125. Keep checking for deals on them. You will not need upgrade for next 5 years. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 9372 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 06:57 pm: |
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Amigo:I think the other thing to see is the bandwidth provided by your ISP....for e.g. here cablevision provides around 15mbps...even with cablevision's boost it is 50mbps max.. so g ( 54mbps) itself will not be fully used , right? n maynot be needed...
with in LAN transfer ki upayoga padathadhi, like streaming from Media server, dlna servers and other devices, or uploading any data from device to other device. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Bmw007
Side Hero Username: Bmw007
Post Number: 9955 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 24.6.218.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 05:25 pm: |
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Simba:It runs only on 2.4 Ghz mode. Please retire it like Ponting at get a better one that will never retire like *****
Bro edi konamantavu...madi duplex most of time connected to 2 devices + Tv 08/24/2012-167.4 lbs 02/8/2012-181.2 lbs 01/04/2012-187 lbs |
   
Jackson
Side Hero Username: Jackson
Post Number: 8730 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 05:20 pm: |
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Simba:*****
sachin or dhoni (evarikaina applicable ana) ... |
   
Amigo
Comedian Username: Amigo
Post Number: 1356 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 24.228.177.250
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 05:10 pm: |
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great info simba bro... I think the other thing to see is the bandwidth provided by your ISP....for e.g. here cablevision provides around 15mbps...even with cablevision's boost it is 50mbps max.. so g ( 54mbps) itself will not be fully used , right? n maynot be needed... |
   
Rajusk
Megastar Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 24629 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.0.74
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 02:36 pm: |
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Simba:Your router doesn't have have dual band support.
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Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8298 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 02:34 pm: |
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Rajusk:D-Link DIR-655
Your router doesn't have have dual band support. It runs only on 2.4 Ghz mode. Please retire it like Ponting at get a better one that will never retire like ***** |
   
Rajusk
Megastar Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 24618 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.0.74
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 02:08 pm: |
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Simba:router brand/model enti?
D-Link DIR-655 |
   
Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8295 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:57 pm: |
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Rajusk:the wireless settings does not show..me a way to add another SSID..
router brand/model enti? |
   
Rajusk
Megastar Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 24617 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.0.74
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:55 pm: |
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Simba:If you have only one router then leave it to Auto.
i have one router and 4 devices connecting to it.. I have 3 devices which show 802.11n (2.4GHz) and one device that shows 802.11g the wireless settings does not show..me a way to add another SSID.. |
   
Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8294 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:55 pm: |
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Rajusk:I have 3 devices which show 802.11n (2.4GHz) and one device that shows 802.11g so you are saying ..the 3 devices can go to higher speeds...if I create a SSID for the 5ghz..i should be good ?
Everyone can see 2.4 ghz because that is the most basic. If you have 5 ghz band on router, enable, give it different ssid and set to accept n clients only. Any laptop/client that sees this new ssid will benefit higher speeds. Rest of all connect to old ssid and run at lower speeds. |
   
Rajusk
Megastar Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 24616 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.0.74
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:49 pm: |
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Simba:
I have 3 devices which show 802.11n (2.4GHz) and one device that shows 802.11g so you are saying ..the 3 devices can go to higher speeds...if I create a SSID for the 5ghz..i should be good ? |
   
Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8289 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:23 pm: |
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Siloan:what about channel width (20 hz/40hz) and channel frequeny ?? auto lo vadileyadam betteraaa
If you have only one router then leave it to Auto. If you have multiple (one primary, rest access points), then you should give same ssid and authentication for all, but different channels. I have them running, at 12 hz, 16hz, 20hz, 24hz equally spaced, with no interference. |
   
Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6085 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:22 pm: |
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Simba:
cheyyali babai.. atta etta avutundi.. vottiga iste anni kali chestaru.. guru dakshina undali ga. Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8288 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:21 pm: |
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Katthi:Simbu bha.. too much info icchavu..
paisal charge cheddama?  |
   
Siloan
Legend Username: Siloan
Post Number: 30115 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:17 pm: |
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Simba:
what about channel width (20 hz/40hz) and channel frequeny ?? auto lo vadileyadam betteraaa rock(8557):nenu ekkada nundi chupinchamantav. commonsense thappithe na dhaggara proof emi ledhu. |
   
Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6084 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:11 pm: |
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Simba:
Simbu bha.. too much info icchavu.. Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8285 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 01:05 pm: |
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Kurrokurru:How can we determine that our laptop supports 5GHZ frequency even though it has wireless N adapter. Heard some where that only few laptops support 5 GHZ and rest all supports only 2.4
You give separate ssids for the radios. For example, ssid for 2.4 ghz is "myhome" and for 5 ghz it is "myhome_n". If your laptop sees "myhome_n" wireless network, that means it supports 5 ghz frequency. Connect to it for full speed. If it sees only "myhome", it is at 2.4 ghz, sharing the network with other a/b/g clients. You don't get n speeds in this case. |
   
Kurrokurru
Comedian Username: Kurrokurru
Post Number: 1087 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 72.43.252.206
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 12:30 pm: |
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Simba:
Super Bro.. Good idea How can we determine that our laptop supports 5GHZ frequency even though it has wireless N adapter. Heard some where that only few laptops support 5 GHZ and rest all supports only 2.4 Pls suggest |
   
Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6083 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 12:23 pm: |
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Simba:
simba ba seppavu.. weekend kukoni setta.. N ni enable setta.. Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 9355 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 11:12 am: |
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Simba:
baa seppaav bro..
Katthi:
nuvvu sesindhi correst kaadhu. N disable cheyatam solution ela avuthadhi. check for any devices that b/g on your network. use seperate SSIDs for 5 and 2.4,simba seppinattu the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Rajusk
Megastar Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 24605 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.0.74
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 11:12 am: |
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Simba:Here is what you need to do. Login to Router administration. Under wireless radio settings, for 5 ghz set to n clients only. For 2.4 ghz radio, set to a/b/g/ clients. Give different ssids for 2.4 and 5 ghz radios. Depending on your clients laptop, mobile phone, tv, bluray player etc pick the appropriate ssid to connect. There will not be any interference between the radios and clients will enjoy full speeds.
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Abhysg
Side Hero Username: Abhysg
Post Number: 7299 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 68.37.201.21
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 11:08 am: |
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Simba:Little primer on Routers: When you get dual band router, make sure you get simultaneous dual band router which means both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz radios work in parallel. By default, 2.4 ghz radio support a/b/g/n clients and 5 ghz supports b/n clients. a/b go upto 12 mbps, g goes up to 54 mbps and n is limted at 300/450mpbs. Speeds are theoretical limts. Important thing to know. When you connect a mix of b, g or n clients to one radio, the speed drops to lowest denominator. That means, if only n client is on 5 ghz radio, it can go up to 300 mbps. As soon as a g client connects to same radio, the speed for n client also drop to g speed (54 mbps). Here is what you need to do. Login to Router administration. Under wireless radio settings, for 5 ghz set to n clients only. For 2.4 ghz radio, set to a/b/g/ clients. Give different ssids for 2.4 and 5 ghz radios. Depending on your clients laptop, mobile phone, tv, bluray player etc pick the appropriate ssid to connect. There will not be any interference between the radios and clients will enjoy full speeds.
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Chillarodu
Side Hero Username: Chillarodu
Post Number: 2372 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 173.162.149.129
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 11:07 am: |
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Simba:Little primer on Routers: When you get dual band router, make sure you get simultaneous dual band router which means both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz radios work in parallel. By default, 2.4 ghz radio support a/b/g/n clients and 5 ghz supports b/n clients. a/b go upto 12 mbps, g goes up to 54 mbps and n is limted at 300/450mpbs. Speeds are theoretical limts. Important thing to know. When you connect a mix of b, g or n clients to one radio, the speed drops to lowest denominator. That means, if only n client is on 5 ghz radio, it can go up to 300 mbps. As soon as a g client connects to same radio, the speed for n client also drop to g speed (54 mbps). Here is what you need to do. Login to Router administration. Under wireless radio settings, for 5 ghz set to n clients only. For 2.4 ghz radio, set to a/b/g/ clients. Give different ssids for 2.4 and 5 ghz radios. Depending on your clients laptop, mobile phone, tv, bluray player etc pick the appropriate ssid to connect. There will not be any interference between the radios and clients will enjoy full speeds.
5 stars... Thanks Simba A diamond with a flaw is better than a common stone that is perfect. |
   
Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8279 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 11:05 am: |
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Katthi:
You disabled wireless N band, disabled firewall protection on router. What is the point in buying this hardware? |
   
Jackson
Side Hero Username: Jackson
Post Number: 8684 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 11:05 am: |
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Simba:
aa maahan hai mama... rojukokati konni kotta vishayaalu telsukuntunna.. ... |
   
Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8278 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.17.33
Rating:  Votes: 6 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 11:01 am: |
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Little primer on Routers: When you get dual band router, make sure you get simultaneous dual band router which means both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz radios work in parallel. By default, 2.4 ghz radio support a/b/g/n clients and 5 ghz supports b/n clients. a/b go upto 12 mbps, g goes up to 54 mbps and n is limted at 300/450mpbs. Speeds are theoretical limts. Important thing to know. When you connect a mix of b, g or n clients to one radio, the speed drops to lowest denominator. That means, if only n client is on 5 ghz radio, it can go up to 300 mbps. As soon as a g client connects to same radio, the speed for n client also drop to g speed (54 mbps). Here is what you need to do. Login to Router administration. Under wireless radio settings, for 5 ghz set to n clients only. For 2.4 ghz radio, set to a/b/g/ clients. Give different ssids for 2.4 and 5 ghz radios. Depending on your clients laptop, mobile phone, tv, bluray player etc pick the appropriate ssid to connect. There will not be any interference between the radios and clients will enjoy full speeds. |
   
Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6082 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:52 am: |
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I have recently purchased a XPS L702x which came with the N 6230 wireless network card and have the same issue connecting to my Virgin Media SuperHub. The only solution that is working for me is to disable N mode in the adapter settings and make a few changes in the router which as mentioned above post caps @ 20MB which does not help people like me who have just paid to upgrade to the 30/50MB services. None of the suggestions about disabling Bluetooth helped in my case but it may work for you - Right click my computer and open properties - Device Manager - Network Adapters - Right click on the Intel Advanced N 6230 - Advanced tab - Highlight 802 11n Mode and change to disabled and press ok - Close to desktop and the wireless connection will reconnect - Open web browser and go to http://192.168.0.1 - Enter you username and password for the router which if you have not changed is Admin and changeme - Click advanced settings link at bottom - Untick Firewall and IP Flood Detection - Save and close - You should now have a stable connection If this is the only device you connect to your Virgin SuperHub via wireless and or all other devices support 5GHZ wireless N then you can get full speed and do not need to disable wireless N in device manager. - Open web browser and go to http://192.168.0.1 - Enter you username and password for the router which if you have not changed is Admin and changeme - Click on Wireless settings box - Move from 2.4 Ghz to 5 Ghz and save - Click advanced settings link at bottom - Untick Firewall and IP Flood Detection - Save and close - You should now have a stable connection at you full max connection rate. Please can anyone post a reply if they can connect to their SuperHub using an Intel N 6230 wireless card with N mode enabled. I hope the steps above help for now! dinni follow ayyanu Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Rebel
Side Hero Username: Rebel
Post Number: 9229 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.22
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:52 am: |
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idi ela undante latest quad core processor slow ga undani pentium processor ki shift ayinattu undi... |
   
Abhysg
Side Hero Username: Abhysg
Post Number: 7296 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 68.37.201.21
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:49 am: |
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Simba:so you are saying B mode is faster than N. Welcome back to 2002!!
annay.. ala gillaka pote asheervadincha vochu kada.. andaram santoshistam no siggy |
   
Analog
Side Hero Username: Analog
Post Number: 2885 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 76.185.166.13
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:45 am: |
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your wireless channel may be close to neighbours's channel...N mode nunchi B mode ki change cheyagane interference thaggi fast anipisthundi emo NenoDi neeve gelichi... nee gelupu naadani thalachi... raagaalu ranjilu roje raaji rammanTi |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 9352 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:45 am: |
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katthi, seck if you have configured both 5 and 2.4. 5's spatial range is less, but is faster with in a certain range. 2.4 covers more area. i usually use different SSIDs for 5 and 2.4. b faster than n ante surprising ga undhi.. router firmware upgrade emaina undhemo soodi the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Amigo
Comedian Username: Amigo
Post Number: 1354 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 24.228.177.250
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:42 am: |
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By design 802.11n uses two channels compared to b or g kada. N should be much faster |
   
Simba
Side Hero Username: Simba
Post Number: 8277 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 206.210.27.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:34 am: |
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Katthi:default mode kotta laptops lo N ani tisukuntundi.. if you disable it will fall back to b mode which is much faster..
so you are saying B mode is faster than N. Welcome back to 2002!! |
   
Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6079 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:15 am: |
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Humpty_dumpty:
Nadi dual band babai.. dual band ani etta.. ee router 5.4 mhz kuda support chestadi.. highend router deal lo adithe tisukunnna oo year back.. windows 7 bane work ayyindi windows 8 with latest centrino wireless card tho problems unnai anta.. ee setting cheste zoom zoom ka pothundi Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 19181 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:14 am: |
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Katthi:
asalu nee router N band enabled aa? if yes, is it dual band? transmitting both N and G on different frequencies? enduku antay konni routers lo dual band leka pothay it defaults to lower band, if receiving unit is lower band afaik this is/was one issue with N band routers...check it out |
   
Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6077 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:06 am: |
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Siloan:
teldu babai.. nenu ade anukunna.. edi aithe enti ani n/b ani set cheste.. motthanike mosam vacchindi.. n ni disable cheste .. too good undi Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6076 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:05 am: |
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Kurrokurru:
Device manager lo ellu.. Network / wireless card select chesukoni right click kotti properties loki ellu.. Dantlo advanced lo untai.. if ur card is different than my card you may see in differe tab. Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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Siloan
Legend Username: Siloan
Post Number: 30108 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:05 am: |
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n mode fastest kada...idem reverse fitting fafesh rock(8557):nenu ekkada nundi chupinchamantav. commonsense thappithe na dhaggara proof emi ledhu. |
   
Kurrokurru
Comedian Username: Kurrokurru
Post Number: 1086 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 72.43.252.206
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 10:03 am: |
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Katthi:final ga settings wireless card drivers settings lo n mode ni disable cheste.. dini talli.. asalu 60 70 mbps mida vastundi..
ee setting ekkada cheyyali...naa laptop kuda same prob ..frequent drops and slow |
   
Katthi
Side Hero Username: Katthi
Post Number: 6075 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 170.63.120.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 09:56 am: |
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Ninna night kotta laptop wireless router ki connect ayyindi.. Too slow and droping connect very often.. kurchoni retri antha research cheste telisindi enti ante.. default mode kotta laptops lo N ani tisukuntundi.. if you disable it will fall back to b mode which is much faster.. final ga settings wireless card drivers settings lo n mode ni disable cheste.. dini talli.. asalu 60 70 mbps mida vastundi.. Windows 8 task manager lo ni internet speed check chesukovacchu.. chudandi Papi gadu post este katthi la digali
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