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naaku ee thread nachindi .. :D
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gidigo gippude septanda, telugu lo kuda telangana telugu chala oldest oldu
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@ Unorthodox: Niccolo de Conti(Italian of the east) //

Italian kante Telugu ee old kabatti manam venakki chebudam .... Italian is Telugu of the West :D !!

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Unorthodox:

'ARAVAM'--tamilodu kanapdite nenu first adigedi neeku aravam ane padaaniki meaning telusaa ani? endukante inta popular word tamil vaallu maaku teliyadantaaru...konta mandiki ee padam telugu vaalu vaadataarani telusu...plus adi tamil ki derogatory word, anukune vaallu 99% vunnaaru...



director Shankar kuda telugu lo matladetappudu aravam lo ee cinema ane chebuthadu.
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Stig:

Arava batch believes that Sanskrit and Tamil came from sound of Shiva's Damarkuam. oka side tamil oka side Sanskrit anta




false. sound ochinapudu tamil, silent ainapudu sanskrit ayuntadhi. :D
balupu s/o gelupu
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Stig:





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Stig:

Only telugu people have a separate name for tamil ie. ARAVAM, word arava refers to sangam period divisions of present tamil nadu Aravanadu, Arubaidthalai. Aruvanadu then ruled by nomadic tribe who migrated from machilipatnam.


1)aravam ane padam andhrulu, kannadigulu iddaruu vaadaaru...ee iddaruu tappa inkevaruu aravam ane padaanni vaadaledu...vaaduka bhashalo, literature lo...

2) 'ARAVAM'--tamilodu kanapdite nenu first adigedi neeku aravam ane padaaniki meaning telusaa ani? endukante inta popular word tamil vaallu maaku teliyadantaaru...konta mandiki ee padam telugu vaalu vaadataarani telusu...plus adi tamil ki derogatory word, anukune vaallu 99% vunnaaru...

3) 'ARAVAM' ane padaaniki etymology raka raakaaluga undi: a) aravam in tamil means snake and people of nagas tribe were referred to as 'arava vallu' b) ravam lenidi 'aravam' --idi rakaaram related anukuntaa... c) ika modern analysis lo arudra okasaari, chengalpat, arcot inkaa edo jillani kalipi aravanaadu antaarani--daani nundi arava vaallu, aravam ane padaalu vachchaayani cheppadu...

4)mana literature inta vistrutamgaa unna padam derogatory avvadaaniki avakaasame ledu...

5) Niccolo de Conti(Italian of the east) dagagra nundi...bharatiyar(sundaramain telugu anadam) daakaa...krishna devaraayalu(telugu, tulu, kannada anedi moot point--he knew 10 languages and many beleive telugu is not his mother toungue) 'telugadela yanna desambu telugu' padyam lo 'telugu nu lessa' gaa varnichadam---ivannee language sweetness ki, akshara ramyataku--nidarsanaalu...

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telugu derived from sanskritaa..goppa article..evadi blog lo aadu istham vochindi rasukovochu..nenu english derived from telugu ani rasi pedatha..evaranna link post cheyyandi
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Arava word etymology :

Only telugu people have a separate name for tamil ie. ARAVAM, word arava refers to sangam period divisions of present tamil nadu Aravanadu, Arubaidthalai. Aruvanadu then ruled by nomadic tribe who migrated from machilipatnam.

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=jHaVqNy-V6UC&pg=PA16&lpg= PA16&dq=Basaronagas&source=bl&ots=jeynRHymPX&sig=E4ZdiPdHv0I Lb_ikpQRdQ9-U5ak&hl=en&sa=X&ei=62myUJPrHszOrQeFwYCACQ&redir_ esc=y#v=onepage&q=Basaronagas&f=false


So sangam period ante around 350BCE nunche manam tamil batch ni aravam ani pilustunnam ... appatki classic tamil ee inka puttaledu kani manam nomadic tribes ki kuda perlu pettesam :D !!

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undi emi labham..
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Stig:

Arava batch believes that Sanskrit and Tamil came from sound of Shiva's Damarkuam. oka side tamil oka side Sanskrit anta !!



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telugu is older than all south.

sambar batch actually belong to simhalese ,demon dynasty.
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Everyone wants their language to be the oldest, but you ask them to give their age and they reduce it as they get older.:-)

Anyhow, good to know that Telugu is older than Aryan Tamil. Proves that Telugus are true Dravidians.
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Arava batch believes that Sanskrit and Tamil came from sound of Shiva's Damarkuam. oka side tamil oka side Sanskrit anta :D !!

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Stig:

All south Indian languages came from Telugu including Tamil.


oldest kaadu antene tattukoleru inka telugu nundi puttindante sambarolla mokaal soodali :-)
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Stig:

Telugu is older than Tamil !!


damil tammullu kamikaze attacks shuru sestaaru tattukoleka :D
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idedo Ashton kurrodi Aryan theory ki supportive article laa undi ...
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Methhanithodugu:

but thambees say tamil is older than Sanskrit....some say Sanskrit is mother of telugu language




adhe nen cheppedhi tambis already did the propaganda.. ippudu telugu oldest ante idli lu petti kotti sambar lo munchestharu
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but thambees say tamil is older than Sanskrit....some say Sanskrit is mother of telugu language

cinima c ni ma la soodandi
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@ Anand_n:

Telidandi, wiki lo hellenistic civilization gurinchi chaduvuthoo dari tappi inkedo inkedo chosta akkadninchi linguistics meeda padi edo choosta unte link dorikindi ... bhale undi kada ani vesa :D !!

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Just so you know, Telugu is proven to be a Indo-Aryan language.

http://linguisticsabout.blogspot.com/
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So he claims Telugu is older than Sanskrit or Tamil...till then its fine..Linguists can debate which language was a precursor to Sanskrit:-)

I did not get why he said Cupid is a cognate of Kaamudu or Gamta ..Any clues ?

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manusulantha okkate ani antunte.. ee aryans, dravidians, sachin fans (new race emerging) antu macro level of caste peelings enti ash baa


US lo whites/blacks/hispanic/Asians madhya race differences lo unappudu India lo Aryan/Dravidian races undatam lo thappu ledu ba
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manusulantha okkate ani antunte.. ee aryans, dravidians, sachin fans (new race emerging) antu macro level of caste peelings enti ash baa
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@STIG: According to the article, if Telugu was really that old compared to Tamil, then all telugu people must be dravidians, which is not true. Dravidians ante ne Tamil people who are the first native inhabitants of India.
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ee maata damil sambhar tammulatho oka iddariki seppandi..
first damil tambi gunde aagi sachipothadu
second damil tambi proof tho choopisthadu that telugu came into existence when rajini saar sneezed
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1. Aitereya brahmanyam which is a part of Rigveda ( oldest book on the earth) written thousands years B.C has mentioned about Telugu language.

2.Then (ten or dhen ) means South . The southern part of India is called Telugu(Tenugu). All south Indian languages came from Telugu including Tamil.

3.Sanskrit is the oldest language next comes Telugu. The logical proof is.. The linguistic prakriya (Game) of Sanskrit Avadhana is existing only Telugu . From this we can say immediate next language of Sanskrit is Telugu. In other languages Avadhana disappeared because of passage of time and their birth is after telugu . Obviusly son possesses more features of father than grand son , because son is more immediate.

3. Bilhana Kavi in his book Rajatarangini mentioned about Telugu.

4.One of the sons name of Bali Chakravarthy ( the one who was sent to Pataala by Mahavishnu i.e. by Vamana) is Andhra or Andhrudu. Telugu area i.e. Andhra Pradesh was ruled by him . So the place became Andhra. See ,, this Bali Chakravarthy was long before Ramayana and Mahabharata. Mahabharata was 3000 years B.C. { Dr.Vedavyasa’s Ph.D. Research Topic. Dr, Vedavyasa got Ph.D . on time determination of Mahabharata}. From this we can say Telugu was existing more than 5000 years from now.Because Bali Chakravarthy was several thousands of years before Mahabharata and Ramayana.Telugu is the language from him. Some people may say Andhrudu’s death time is Telugu’s birth time . Then also , Telugu is the oldest. At the time of Mahabharata Andhra was not the ruler . He died long before Bharata and Ramayana.

5. Tamil is not older than Telugu... One fact is , with the passage of time, activities , languages etc become more and more simple. People gradually adopt simple pronunciations. Tamil has simple pronunciations than Telugu. Some typical sounds of Telugu are not in Tamil.

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http://en.allexperts.com/q/Hindus-946/2008/4/Sanskrit-1.htm

Legends say that Saraswathi, goddess of learning, created Sanskrit for
eternity. Another legend given in a few Puranas say that Saraswathi
spoke Telugu (another name for Andhra) when she began to speak, and
created Sanskrit when she matured. The standard dictum "Samskaritha
bhaasham Sanskritham" means Sanskrit is a created and refined language
from a formerly existing language. Andhra is reinterpreted as Adi Amara,
the root language for Sanskrit. Among all languages in India, Telugu
contains the largest number of Sanskrit words - about 70. If you take
any Indian text which is older than 400 years, this percentage in them
is less than 20. "Bala rasala sala nava pallava kavya kanyakan" -
all these words are Sanskrit, yet it is called Grandhika Andhra
(language of ancient Andhra texts).

The Andhra people have a legend that one of their ancestors visited
Europe many millenia ago. Many cognate words have formed due to the interaction. Some are given below. The second one is a Telugu word
having the same meaning which is being used for more
than a 2000 years:

attic - attaca. asset - aasti. beat - baadu. boat -
padava. bore - boriya. boy - abbayi. cavity - guvta.
cattle - goddulu. cheek - chekku. chin - chunbu. cut -
kota. dull - deela. elope - lepuka. fat - boddu.
foundation - punaadi. gale - gaali. lace - allica. link
- lanke. mask - musugu. master - mestri. mead - metha.
mouth - moothi. mud - matti. murky - muriki. nerve -
narav. oath - ottu. pale - paali. pan - penam. pap -
pappa. piece - pisaru. put - pettu. site - chotu. short
- chiruta. show - choopu. slice - cheelchu. suck -
cheeku. surprise - achcheraparachu. sweat - chewata.
theft - thoepidi thick - dukka. thread - thraadu. value
- viluva. veil - valle. vomit - vaamthi. upon - paina.
with - waththa. wonder - winta. yean - yeenu.

The belief in Cupid is many centuries old.

The Rig Veda, which is now accepted to be 8000 years
old, mentions ships with 100 oars. The Buddhist Jataka
stories wrote about large Indian ships carrying seven
hundred people. They went around the world many a
times. Aithereya Brahmana, which is a part of the
Vedas, mentions Telugu people as one of the earliest
tribes. History says that Telugu King Samudra Gupta
went around the world several times. Many cognate words
have formed due to this interaction, and many more
preior to him.

(1) The god of love in Telugu literature
is called Kaamudu, the word is cognate
with Cupid.

(2) In some old European drawings, the
Cupid is shown wearing blind-folds.
Gamta, a word which is cognate with
Cupid, means 'blind-folds' in Telugu.

(3) Cupid is shown shooting arrows in to
hearts of persons to generate love. The
ancient texts of India say that heart is
the seat of love. Gumde, a word which is
cognate with Cupid, means 'heart' in
Telugu.

(4) Cupid is described as a small child.
Gumta, a word which is cognate with
Cupid, means 'a small child' in Telugu.

The above words are used in Telugu for
more than 2000 years.

I have written a research paper on this topic.
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