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Tilak
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Post Number: 10130 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.47.204
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 12:44 am: |
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naaku ee thread nachindi ..  India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda Amra Morbo, Jagat Jagbe (We shall die to awaken the nation) - Bagha Jatin |
   
Rudraksha
Junior Artist Username: Rudraksha
Post Number: 405 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 70.181.57.58
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 12:26 am: |
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gidigo gippude septanda, telugu lo kuda telangana telugu chala oldest oldu |
   
Stig
Side Hero Username: Stig
Post Number: 9534 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 173.224.119.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 12:22 am: |
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@ Unorthodox: Niccolo de Conti(Italian of the east) // Italian kante Telugu ee old kabatti manam venakki chebudam .... Italian is Telugu of the West !! --- http://savethering.org/ |
   
Shikari
Hero Username: Shikari
Post Number: 11116 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 183.82.178.22
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 11:18 pm: |
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Unorthodox:'ARAVAM'--tamilodu kanapdite nenu first adigedi neeku aravam ane padaaniki meaning telusaa ani? endukante inta popular word tamil vaallu maaku teliyadantaaru...konta mandiki ee padam telugu vaalu vaadataarani telusu...plus adi tamil ki derogatory word, anukune vaallu 99% vunnaaru...
director Shankar kuda telugu lo matladetappudu aravam lo ee cinema ane chebuthadu. Unban Dr.Farmer |
   
Bushu
Side Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 5470 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 24.61.12.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:50 pm: |
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Stig:Arava batch believes that Sanskrit and Tamil came from sound of Shiva's Damarkuam. oka side tamil oka side Sanskrit anta
false. sound ochinapudu tamil, silent ainapudu sanskrit ayuntadhi.  balupu s/o gelupu |
   
Ringo_rangaswamy
Side Hero Username: Ringo_rangaswamy
Post Number: 2234 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 69.120.136.97
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 09:41 pm: |
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Stig:
But dying faster |
   
Unorthodox
Comedian Username: Unorthodox
Post Number: 1958 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.125.140.130
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 03:34 pm: |
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Stig:Only telugu people have a separate name for tamil ie. ARAVAM, word arava refers to sangam period divisions of present tamil nadu Aravanadu, Arubaidthalai. Aruvanadu then ruled by nomadic tribe who migrated from machilipatnam.
1)aravam ane padam andhrulu, kannadigulu iddaruu vaadaaru...ee iddaruu tappa inkevaruu aravam ane padaanni vaadaledu...vaaduka bhashalo, literature lo... 2) 'ARAVAM'--tamilodu kanapdite nenu first adigedi neeku aravam ane padaaniki meaning telusaa ani? endukante inta popular word tamil vaallu maaku teliyadantaaru...konta mandiki ee padam telugu vaalu vaadataarani telusu...plus adi tamil ki derogatory word, anukune vaallu 99% vunnaaru... 3) 'ARAVAM' ane padaaniki etymology raka raakaaluga undi: a) aravam in tamil means snake and people of nagas tribe were referred to as 'arava vallu' b) ravam lenidi 'aravam' --idi rakaaram related anukuntaa... c) ika modern analysis lo arudra okasaari, chengalpat, arcot inkaa edo jillani kalipi aravanaadu antaarani--daani nundi arava vaallu, aravam ane padaalu vachchaayani cheppadu... 4)mana literature inta vistrutamgaa unna padam derogatory avvadaaniki avakaasame ledu... 5) Niccolo de Conti(Italian of the east) dagagra nundi...bharatiyar(sundaramain telugu anadam) daakaa...krishna devaraayalu(telugu, tulu, kannada anedi moot point--he knew 10 languages and many beleive telugu is not his mother toungue) 'telugadela yanna desambu telugu' padyam lo 'telugu nu lessa' gaa varnichadam---ivannee language sweetness ki, akshara ramyataku--nidarsanaalu... No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader - Robert Frost. |
   
Zulu
Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 14846 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.28.117
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 02:56 pm: |
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telugu derived from sanskritaa..goppa article..evadi blog lo aadu istham vochindi rasukovochu..nenu english derived from telugu ani rasi pedatha..evaranna link post cheyyandi
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Stig
Side Hero Username: Stig
Post Number: 9533 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 173.224.119.174
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 02:10 pm: |
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Arava word etymology : Only telugu people have a separate name for tamil ie. ARAVAM, word arava refers to sangam period divisions of present tamil nadu Aravanadu, Arubaidthalai. Aruvanadu then ruled by nomadic tribe who migrated from machilipatnam. http://books.google.co.in/books?id=jHaVqNy-V6UC&pg=PA16&lpg= PA16&dq=Basaronagas&source=bl&ots=jeynRHymPX&sig=E4ZdiPdHv0I Lb_ikpQRdQ9-U5ak&hl=en&sa=X&ei=62myUJPrHszOrQeFwYCACQ&redir_ esc=y#v=onepage&q=Basaronagas&f=false So sangam period ante around 350BCE nunche manam tamil batch ni aravam ani pilustunnam ... appatki classic tamil ee inka puttaledu kani manam nomadic tribes ki kuda perlu pettesam !! --- http://savethering.org/ |
   
Manoj
Side Hero Username: Manoj
Post Number: 2289 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.164.158.177
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 01:57 pm: |
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undi emi labham.. |
   
Shikari
Hero Username: Shikari
Post Number: 11114 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 183.82.178.22
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 01:18 pm: |
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Stig:Arava batch believes that Sanskrit and Tamil came from sound of Shiva's Damarkuam. oka side tamil oka side Sanskrit anta !!
 Unban Dr.Farmer |
   
Netsaint
Side Hero Username: Netsaint
Post Number: 6983 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 49.204.177.65
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 01:17 pm: |
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telugu is older than all south. sambar batch actually belong to simhalese ,demon dynasty. My Telugu Bhakthi Blog :http://gurugeetha.blogspot.com/ |
   
Madrascalcutta
Junior Artist Username: Madrascalcutta
Post Number: 636 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 70.26.163.42
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 01:12 pm: |
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Everyone wants their language to be the oldest, but you ask them to give their age and they reduce it as they get older.:-) Anyhow, good to know that Telugu is older than Aryan Tamil. Proves that Telugus are true Dravidians. |
   
Stig
Side Hero Username: Stig
Post Number: 9532 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 173.224.119.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 12:50 pm: |
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Arava batch believes that Sanskrit and Tamil came from sound of Shiva's Damarkuam. oka side tamil oka side Sanskrit anta !! --- http://savethering.org/ |
   
Jacksparrow
Side Hero Username: Jacksparrow
Post Number: 4958 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 89.234.93.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 12:41 pm: |
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Stig:All south Indian languages came from Telugu including Tamil.
oldest kaadu antene tattukoleru inka telugu nundi puttindante sambarolla mokaal soodali  |
   
Jacksparrow
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Post Number: 4957 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 89.234.93.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 12:39 pm: |
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Stig:Telugu is older than Tamil !!
damil tammullu kamikaze attacks shuru sestaaru tattukoleka  |
   
Rowdy
Megastar Username: Rowdy
Post Number: 21887 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 76.113.242.34
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 12:18 pm: |
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idedo Ashton kurrodi Aryan theory ki supportive article laa undi ... |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 2846 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 184.39.238.57
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:51 am: |
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Methhanithodugu:but thambees say tamil is older than Sanskrit....some say Sanskrit is mother of telugu language
adhe nen cheppedhi tambis already did the propaganda.. ippudu telugu oldest ante idli lu petti kotti sambar lo munchestharu |
   
Methhanithodugu
Megastar Username: Methhanithodugu
Post Number: 22046 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 117.213.225.207
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:50 am: |
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but thambees say tamil is older than Sanskrit....some say Sanskrit is mother of telugu language
 cinima c ni ma la soodandi Jai Chandra Madiga garu |
   
Stig
Side Hero Username: Stig
Post Number: 9531 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 173.224.119.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:49 am: |
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@ Anand_n: Telidandi, wiki lo hellenistic civilization gurinchi chaduvuthoo dari tappi inkedo inkedo chosta akkadninchi linguistics meeda padi edo choosta unte link dorikindi ... bhale undi kada ani vesa !! --- http://savethering.org/ |
   
Qdoba
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Post Number: 3828 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 74.221.212.139
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:32 am: |
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Just so you know, Telugu is proven to be a Indo-Aryan language. http://linguisticsabout.blogspot.com/ |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 12436 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.177.241.31
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:22 am: |
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Stig:
So he claims Telugu is older than Sanskrit or Tamil...till then its fine..Linguists can debate which language was a precursor to Sanskrit I did not get why he said Cupid is a cognate of Kaamudu or Gamta ..Any clues ? The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Qdoba
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Post Number: 3827 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 74.221.212.139
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:16 am: |
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Whyme: manusulantha okkate ani antunte.. ee aryans, dravidians, sachin fans (new race emerging) antu macro level of caste peelings enti ash baa
US lo whites/blacks/hispanic/Asians madhya race differences lo unappudu India lo Aryan/Dravidian races undatam lo thappu ledu ba |
   
Whyme
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Post Number: 2845 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 184.39.238.57
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:07 am: |
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Qdoba:
manusulantha okkate ani antunte.. ee aryans, dravidians, sachin fans (new race emerging) antu macro level of caste peelings enti ash baa |
   
Qdoba
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Post Number: 3826 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 74.221.212.139
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 10:03 am: |
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@STIG: According to the article, if Telugu was really that old compared to Tamil, then all telugu people must be dravidians, which is not true. Dravidians ante ne Tamil people who are the first native inhabitants of India. |
   
Whyme
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Post Number: 2843 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 184.39.238.57
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 09:59 am: |
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ee maata damil sambhar tammulatho oka iddariki seppandi.. first damil tambi gunde aagi sachipothadu second damil tambi proof tho choopisthadu that telugu came into existence when rajini saar sneezed |
   
Stig
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Post Number: 9528 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 173.224.119.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 09:58 am: |
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1. Aitereya brahmanyam which is a part of Rigveda ( oldest book on the earth) written thousands years B.C has mentioned about Telugu language. 2.Then (ten or dhen ) means South . The southern part of India is called Telugu(Tenugu). All south Indian languages came from Telugu including Tamil. 3.Sanskrit is the oldest language next comes Telugu. The logical proof is.. The linguistic prakriya (Game) of Sanskrit Avadhana is existing only Telugu . From this we can say immediate next language of Sanskrit is Telugu. In other languages Avadhana disappeared because of passage of time and their birth is after telugu . Obviusly son possesses more features of father than grand son , because son is more immediate. 3. Bilhana Kavi in his book Rajatarangini mentioned about Telugu. 4.One of the sons name of Bali Chakravarthy ( the one who was sent to Pataala by Mahavishnu i.e. by Vamana) is Andhra or Andhrudu. Telugu area i.e. Andhra Pradesh was ruled by him . So the place became Andhra. See ,, this Bali Chakravarthy was long before Ramayana and Mahabharata. Mahabharata was 3000 years B.C. { Dr.Vedavyasa’s Ph.D. Research Topic. Dr, Vedavyasa got Ph.D . on time determination of Mahabharata}. From this we can say Telugu was existing more than 5000 years from now.Because Bali Chakravarthy was several thousands of years before Mahabharata and Ramayana.Telugu is the language from him. Some people may say Andhrudu’s death time is Telugu’s birth time . Then also , Telugu is the oldest. At the time of Mahabharata Andhra was not the ruler . He died long before Bharata and Ramayana. 5. Tamil is not older than Telugu... One fact is , with the passage of time, activities , languages etc become more and more simple. People gradually adopt simple pronunciations. Tamil has simple pronunciations than Telugu. Some typical sounds of Telugu are not in Tamil. --- http://savethering.org/ |
   
Stig
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Post Number: 9527 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 173.224.119.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 09:57 am: |
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http://en.allexperts.com/q/Hindus-946/2008/4/Sanskrit-1.htm Legends say that Saraswathi, goddess of learning, created Sanskrit for eternity. Another legend given in a few Puranas say that Saraswathi spoke Telugu (another name for Andhra) when she began to speak, and created Sanskrit when she matured. The standard dictum "Samskaritha bhaasham Sanskritham" means Sanskrit is a created and refined language from a formerly existing language. Andhra is reinterpreted as Adi Amara, the root language for Sanskrit. Among all languages in India, Telugu contains the largest number of Sanskrit words - about 70. If you take any Indian text which is older than 400 years, this percentage in them is less than 20. "Bala rasala sala nava pallava kavya kanyakan" - all these words are Sanskrit, yet it is called Grandhika Andhra (language of ancient Andhra texts). The Andhra people have a legend that one of their ancestors visited Europe many millenia ago. Many cognate words have formed due to the interaction. Some are given below. The second one is a Telugu word having the same meaning which is being used for more than a 2000 years: attic - attaca. asset - aasti. beat - baadu. boat - padava. bore - boriya. boy - abbayi. cavity - guvta. cattle - goddulu. cheek - chekku. chin - chunbu. cut - kota. dull - deela. elope - lepuka. fat - boddu. foundation - punaadi. gale - gaali. lace - allica. link - lanke. mask - musugu. master - mestri. mead - metha. mouth - moothi. mud - matti. murky - muriki. nerve - narav. oath - ottu. pale - paali. pan - penam. pap - pappa. piece - pisaru. put - pettu. site - chotu. short - chiruta. show - choopu. slice - cheelchu. suck - cheeku. surprise - achcheraparachu. sweat - chewata. theft - thoepidi thick - dukka. thread - thraadu. value - viluva. veil - valle. vomit - vaamthi. upon - paina. with - waththa. wonder - winta. yean - yeenu. The belief in Cupid is many centuries old. The Rig Veda, which is now accepted to be 8000 years old, mentions ships with 100 oars. The Buddhist Jataka stories wrote about large Indian ships carrying seven hundred people. They went around the world many a times. Aithereya Brahmana, which is a part of the Vedas, mentions Telugu people as one of the earliest tribes. History says that Telugu King Samudra Gupta went around the world several times. Many cognate words have formed due to this interaction, and many more preior to him. (1) The god of love in Telugu literature is called Kaamudu, the word is cognate with Cupid. (2) In some old European drawings, the Cupid is shown wearing blind-folds. Gamta, a word which is cognate with Cupid, means 'blind-folds' in Telugu. (3) Cupid is shown shooting arrows in to hearts of persons to generate love. The ancient texts of India say that heart is the seat of love. Gumde, a word which is cognate with Cupid, means 'heart' in Telugu. (4) Cupid is described as a small child. Gumta, a word which is cognate with Cupid, means 'a small child' in Telugu. The above words are used in Telugu for more than 2000 years. I have written a research paper on this topic. I can provide more information if you are interested. --- http://savethering.org/ |