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Pplsuck:

.please enlighten me and tell me what I am missing.........


Boss, whats wrong with you? where did I vouch for his article? Why are you selectively quoting my statement? The rest of the statement I mentioned "Not sure if some of the points are sarcasm or written for a specific context."
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vivekananda also at taht TIME OPPOSED BRAHMANICAL SYSTEM which opposed change in 1890 ....complacency and opposed to change is brahmanical sytem no caste basis here some brahmins by caste opposed brahmanical ssytem even in those days also

YES MODI WIL CHANGE THAT COMPLACENT BRAHMANICAL SYTEM IN RULING CLASSES IN DELHI I BELIEVE
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Vjavasi:

Pranab Mukherjee
Shankar dayal sharma
R. Venkarraman
Varaha Venkata Giri
Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan
Babu Rajendra Prasad




so these are those called elite?.........reason for degenerate system?......and that too as presidents corrupting the whole power corridor of India.......and debilitating India?.......

even if they are competent normally, they shud be considered elite only bcos they are brahmins?.......

endo kaamedy?.........I still dint get what is this degenerate brahminical system?........and how that theory is being proposed and getting propagated?.................

anyways, who gives a fxuck to anything called reason, truth, facts or sense?.......
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Gandhiguevara:

oka 10 names cheppandi?





only presidents



Brahmin
Pranab Mukherjee
Shankar dayal sharma
R. Venkarraman
Varaha Venkata Giri
Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan
Babu Rajendra Prasad


Muslim

Zakir Hussain
Fakhrudin Ali Ahmed
Abdul kalam
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you can assume or suspect whatever you want
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Vjavasi:

just one odd example ....atleast she won assembly.......do you want me to list out how many from brahmins and muslims were rewarded as presidents, vice-presidents, Prime ministers, HRD ministers, finance ministers, home ministers, foreign ministers,chief ministers, diplomats, media, academia ir of trespective of their political standing ....the list is endless




holy cow........when u were discussing brahmanical system, at least you had issues with caste system or something anukunnaa.........basically u r targetting brahmin community..............that is a better than hiding behind systems and stuff...............backing up the claims wud be even better...........

I dunno about the author.......but my suspicions about u posting it here are correct I guess.........u were not talking about systems or the elite culture.........
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Vjavasi:

just one odd example ....atleast she won assembly.......do you want me to list out how many from brahmins and muslims were rewarded as presidents, vice-presidents, Prime ministers, HRD ministers, finance ministers, home ministers, foreign ministers,chief ministers, diplomats, media, academia ir of trespective of their political standing ....the list is endless


oka 10 names cheppandi?
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Tilak:

Prathibha Patil, similarly, was never a political heavy weight, except that she won Amaravathi MLA a couple of times I guess .





just one odd example ....atleast she won assembly.......do you want me to list out how many from brahmins and muslims were rewarded as presidents, vice-presidents, Prime ministers, HRD ministers, finance ministers, home ministers, foreign ministers,chief ministers, diplomats, media, academia ir of trespective of their political standing ....the list is endless
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Vjavasi:

you may deny it......but majority vote for congress, consider it part of their legacy.....prefer it better than any regional party


They prefer national parties than regional party - I agree .. not necessarily national party = congress .. more importantly in UP ..

After 1980s .. most Brahmins have voted for BJP repeatedly .. till the emergence of BSP in 2007 .. I dont have to contest ur claims on these things ..
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Vjavasi:

how do you explain ascendance pranab mukherjee who never won any election before 2009 as finance minister and now president?


Btw, thats at best the Congress way of politicking. Prathibha Patil, similarly, was never a political heavy weight, except that she won Amaravathi MLA a couple of times I guess .. yet she rose to become the President and she is no Brahmin. And there are many in Congress who are rewarded that way by dynasty and mafioso .. and it happens from time to time .. and some may be Brahmins by birth, who are an important cog in this wheel of corruption and nepotism .. I donno if thats enough to give such a system their identity. Anyways, no big deal if some one thinks .. Brahmanical system is degenerate and slippery (in terms of values) ..
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Tilak:

yes, is the answer. But the next question would be .. what percentage of the entire population form the section that consider dynasty as brahmins? And if it is around 10-20% of it, then it is very unfair to attribute it to the entire community.





you may deny it......but majority vote for congress, consider it part of their legacy.....prefer it better than any regional party
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Vjavasi:

don't you think sections of voting population in UP,AP consider nehru family as brahmins.......


yes, is the answer. But the next question would be .. what percentage of the entire population form the section that consider dynasty as brahmins? And if it is around 10-20% of it, then it is very unfair to attribute it to the entire community.

Vjavasi:

why did rahul gandhi decalred himself as brahmin before UP elections?


Simply, because he wanted to grab whatever he would get. He, being a political fool, identifies the least common denominator to grab some votes, be it being a brahmin or a kashmiri or tomorrow may be a roman catholic! and imparting credence to Rahul is the same I said before - greatest favor to the pseudo-secular political hegemony that ruined this country thus far ..
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Tilak:


In fact .. considering Nehru, Indira or Rajiv to be representing Brahmins .. is the greatest favor you can do to pseudo-secular political hegemony in this country.






It's not about just Nehru, Indira or Rajiv.....the entire nehruvian system inherited from congress legacy....don't you think sections of voting population in UP,AP consider nehru family as brahmins.......why did rahul gandhi decalred himself as brahmin before UP elections?.......we are not discussing about electoral consequences of it......how do you explain ascendance pranab mukherjee who never won any election before 2009 as finance minister and now president?.....there rae number of such example from before and after independence......
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Not withstanding Swapan's own way of identifying Indian political systems - and his choice of words thereby, I think NaMo will bring to the table a new political culture (partly Brahmanical, partly non-Brahmanical in nature [whatever that means] but a completely Indian/Hindu way of discourse) and the changes are just welcome for every Indian.
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and where do we have Brahminical "SYSTEM"?.......whatever that means...........
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Vjavasi:

His will, in effect, be an assault on the degenerate Brahmanical system of slipperiness.


Swapan should have come up with a few good examples of degenerate Brahminical system .. because few attributes have to be validated ..

In fact .. considering Nehru, Indira or Rajiv to be representing Brahmins .. is the greatest favor you can do to pseudo-secular political hegemony in this country.
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Vjavasi:

brahminical




He says Brahmanical..........not brahminical..........let us leave the spelling aside............even Brahminical talks about social and cultural elite that are descendants..........

who is social and cultural elite today in Indian politics?........Mayawati? Mulayam? Mamata?......Sonia?......CBN?......Jagan?.......

I hardly see any elites in there.........I still dont see author's point.......may be I am being dense here.........but it still feels like the article doesnt seem to be on a strong footing....
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Pplsuck:

baaga aadutunnaav game.........this is what I get from what author mentioned.......check the link below......





game aa evaritho?.......if you don't like my explanation.....contact the authoer and deman his explanation.......i told what brahminical meant in indian political context....it's a temperament related to cultural elites, in indian context majority are from brahminical background...the word used frequently in political discourse, hence part of political dictionary
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and for Brahmanical systems, here u go.......

http://science.jrank.org/pages/8801/Consciousness-Indian-Tho ught-Brahmanical-Systems.html
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Vjavasi:

this is the meaning of brahminical - a member of cultural and social elite who has vested interest in preserving status quo




baaga aadutunnaav game.........this is what I get from what author mentioned.......check the link below......


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Brahmanical

even the brahminical doesnt come with all the bells and whistles you are attaching it too............except Rahulji, who else in power is qualified for such a term?............everyone else is fighting for their own self.........
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Vjavasi:

tripuraneni chitti meedha paddavu enti.......daaniki deeniki sambandham enti...nuvvu bhale select chesukuntav ga targets ni




aa madhya Kanche Illiah gaari logic nachchindi.......he denounces discrimination and suggests that all brahmins should be discriminated to work as servants........as the solution for his so called social evil.........he was the flavor of the season at that time.....

ippudu Tripura Chitti for something totally twisted and sounds absolutely crappy........monna MB episode lo oka logic cheppaadu...........gira gira tirigaayi kallu.........
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Nehru hated military and generals......always felt insecure about them.....his attitude was to enjoy power and pelf playing safe like a blue eyed elite
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tripuraneni chitti meedha paddavu enti.......daaniki deeniki sambandham enti...nuvvu bhale select chesukuntav ga targets ni
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this is the meaning of brahminical - a member of cultural and social elite who has vested interest in preserving status quo

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/brahminical


Those nominated leaders who enjoyed power without going through the necessary hardwork, struggle or qualification most failed this country in their roles........there r many examples in indian politics in past, present starting from Nehru.....entire delhi is full of them......on account of their lack of any base they tend to run politics of cosy compromises, coteries without being accountable to the masses.......most of these nominated elites come from cultural and social elitist backgrounds......brahminical doesn't necessarily mean pious god fearing temple pujaris reciting their vedas, but definitely means the traditional cultural elites in hindu society.......Nehru was never a practising hindu and loathed traditions.......but is he brahminical in political sense?....yes he is
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north india lo unte telisedhi




enti telisedi bokka?.............emantaadu aayana naaku ardhamey kaaledu..............Tripura Chitti logic laaga.......
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The_illusionist:

adi vrasindi Swapandas gupta.. He is a BJP supporter.




so people just need to accept something he writes?.........which doesnt make an iota of sense.....

or if it makes sense to you.........please enlighten me and tell me what I am missing.........

he mentions some chaltha hai attitude......he mentions degenrate system and slipperines.......and in between slips the word "Brahmanical"...........except to play for the front benchers, it doesnt make sense to me.............pseudo crap ki best example this article........
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Pplsuck:

Comunists and pseudo-secularists kosam raasinattu undi..............what does this above mean?




north india lo unte telisedhi
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Vjavasi:

perhaps author means Dilli political system is brahminical in temperament, playing safe, preferring consensus over confrontation even at the expense of national interest, preaching pseudo morality and "liberal" values to maintain political status quo, deeply suspicious and afraid of middle india




OK...let us try this again.......I am sure you are not that dense.............what is the so called "Brahmanical" system?.........and how is any of this crap he spews out got to do anything with that assumed "Brahmanical" system??...........what brahmanical system teaches pseudo morality and "liberal" values?........any reference to such system and where it prescribes such bull shxit written by the author supported by able minded people like you?......

and till now I thought, Brahmins are misleading hinduism teaching their conservative crap under RSS/Bajrang dal and other rightist parties...........and congress is representative of pseudo-liberal govts away from the hindu roots............

Communist chetta laaga undi..............Kanche Illiah gaari student emo.........lokam lo evadu em chesina....ye story raasina.........somehow it is related to brahmanical system, people........anukuntaa kaamedy endi?........with out any facts/truths to back up the argument........

anyways, if u r convinced that it doesnt need any proof/facts.........just the mention of word is good enough to take it at face value............check out for Illiah, MB, Tripura and you will enjoy it a lot.....

if anything, Modi is representative of the explained Brahmanical system than anybody else........if you look at the system and understand properly.........Karma and Dharma at the heart of everything mentioned......he fits the bill in the system....
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2/3rd.. not so easy..


Actually more chances than 1998/99 - *under the right face ..
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The_illusionist:

2/3rd.. not so easy..






not easy...but not impossible
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Vjavasi:

if Bjp can strike 200 out of 300


2/3rd.. not so easy..
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Telugu_times:

2. BJP national party ayyundi, peddha peddha states lo presence ledhu. States like AP, TN, Orissa, Bengal, Assam etc.





if Bjp can strike 200 out of 300 odd seats where it is strong, the situation will change to its favor, in a wave it is possible
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adi vrasindi Swapandas gupta.. He is a BJP supporter... Not sure if some of the points are sarcasm or written for a specific context.
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Pplsuck:

he knows how to label/package shxit sandwiches and sell them good





who?


Pplsuck:

if anything Brahmanical system is considered rigid and conservative.........chaltha hai attitude ki, degenerate system ki, slipperiness of thought, action and mind ki...............madhyalo Brahmanical ani oka word vaadinattu undi................just to make communists and pseudo-intellectuals gorge on the article as something worthy and great.......




perhaps author means Dilli political system is brahminical in temperament, playing safe, preferring consensus over confrontation even at the expense of national interest, preaching pseudo morality and "liberal" values to maintain political status quo, deeply suspicious and afraid of middle india
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Vjavasi:

First, he will threaten a cosy, chalta hai consensus that has infected all walks of public life. His will, in effect, be an assault on the degenerate Brahmanical system of slipperiness.




Comunists and pseudo-secularists kosam raasinattu undi..............what does this above mean?

if anything Brahmanical system is considered rigid and conservative.........chaltha hai attitude ki, degenerate system ki, slipperiness of thought, action and mind ki...............madhyalo Brahmanical ani oka word vaadinattu undi................just to make communists and pseudo-intellectuals gorge on the article as something worthy and great.......

Tripura Chitti (Pronounced Shxitty shicago style) logic laaga undi.........or am I missing something here?........

u gotta appreciate onething though.......he knows how to label/package shxit sandwiches and sell them good........and there is no dearth of buyers without giving a second thought......
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BJP ki, 2 main problems.
1. Alliance vacchinappudu, most parties will not support BJP because of the minority vote bank.
2. BJP national party ayyundi, peddha peddha states lo presence ledhu. States like AP, TN, Orissa, Bengal, Assam etc.
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Dma:

Sammary 4 mukkallo telugulo seppu bhayya. janaalu sadutaaru. disco start avutundi.

itla chanthadu antha englis links pedithe kastam.




telugu translation kastam

"It is hazardous to look into the future. Yet what can be said with certainty is that Modi will add a riveting dimension to the general election. First, he will threaten a cosy, chalta hai consensus that has infected all walks of public life. His will, in effect, be an assault on the degenerate Brahmanical system of slipperiness. Secondly, he will personify the raw energy of an India that thinks big and wants to achieve big. There will be nothing mealy-mouthed about a Modi charge on privilege, cronyism and status quo. He will offer decisive choices that could unsettle the faint hearted."
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Sammary 4 mukkallo telugulo seppu bhayya. janaalu sadutaaru. disco start avutundi.

itla chanthadu antha englis links pedithe kastam.
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