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Iamim
Junior Artist Username: Iamim
Post Number: 639 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 221.134.40.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 01:26 pm: |
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Last time edo Vajpayee gentleman kabatti saripoindi.. ee sari BJP ravali.. ide last election avvali... |
   
Iamim
Junior Artist Username: Iamim
Post Number: 634 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 221.134.40.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 12:36 pm: |
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Democracy is just one of the forms of governance.. democracy is the bane of India.. the only reason why India will never become a super power like China is coz of democracy.. Indira has given a taste of Super power through emergency.. Indians were not ready for that.. they like the freedom of a begger to roam on streets rather than being king in a fortress... |
   
Bicchapathi
Comedian Username: Bicchapathi
Post Number: 1122 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 141.158.20.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:46 pm: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:
Someone said Arrogance is sometimes disadvantage and sometime it is advantage. That is what happend with Indhira Gandhi. Her arrogance helped Indian in dealing with pakistan and divide it in two countries. She gave shit to the USA. If she has not dealt that issue with arrogance then we would have got another kashmir at bengal. Disadvantage was emergency. She littrally took over indian law and democracy. She bruitally crushed all politicians and journalist. That was the black day. |
   
Anand_n
Junior Artist Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 341 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:44 pm: |
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Morarjee Desai did commission enquiries into atrocities of Emergency ...and then the govt. collapsed before anything could come out of them - don't recall any major results from the enquiry..Google cheste confirm cheyyochu aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3092 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:39 pm: |
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Anand_n:And cong came back with a vengeance...
when congi defeated after emergency...the party which got power didn't delve into the atrocities of congi during emergency and prosecute the concerned partiez??? |
   
Anand_n
Junior Artist Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 340 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:35 pm: |
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JKM, True, ee atukulu JP weak(both health and politically) avvagane vidilipoyayi...And cong came back with a vengeance... Then, Arun Shourie started his crusade ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Jkm
Junior Artist Username: Jkm
Post Number: 569 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.192.47.28
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:28 pm: |
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Anand_n:Jayaprakash Narayan brought the different parties and their leaders together into a coalition (Janata Party ) and steered them to victory... but sad that he could not keep them together too long...
appude IG janata party ni athukula bontha annatundi. annattugaane 2 years lo govt padipoyindi. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
   
Anand_n
Junior Artist Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 339 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:10 pm: |
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El /**Gulzar rocks**/ Yes he does - huge fan of his  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3091 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.86
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:02 pm: |
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Anand_n:Surprisingly Aandhi was made during the emergency - inspired by Indira Gandhi ...
gulzar rocks |
   
Anand_n
Junior Artist Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 338 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:01 pm: |
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Basky, Yep - black period indeed..People used to be scared to talk politics outside their immediate circle of trusted friends...media was used for propaganda only not news... Surprisingly Aandhi was made during the emergency - inspired by Indira Gandhi ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Basky_indya
Side Hero Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 4309 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 144.226.230.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 06:46 pm: |
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I was in Maharasthra until 1979. I was 5 years at that time. yes, it was a black period during those times. for PRESS censor ship was there, etc etc all india Utter Flop Hero Fans UUUUth President |
   
Anand_n
Junior Artist Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 336 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 06:41 pm: |
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El/JKm, /*Evaranna uncles aa time lo youth lo unnara??? untey mee experiences seppandi*/ Uncles emi matladataledu kada nenu naku gurtunnavi cheptanu I was 9 when emergency ended Anta restrictions impact teliyaledu cos we were in a protected microcosm of a township, but I recall a lot of conversations between Dad and his friends about the atrocities of emergency... and reading the doctored newspapers and listening to the radio a lot Before skeptics start questioning , my dad insisted I read the first page of the newspaper from age 5 when I started reading and that we discuss the news, so I got to read the doctored news and then hear his rebuttal of the same The horrors of Nasbandi - Sanjay Gandhi's excesses... What I do remember very clearly is going to Morarjee Desai's election campaign speech , and the energy and enthusiasm in the people desperately wanting to defeat congress... Jayaprakash Narayan brought the different parties and their leaders together into a coalition (Janata Party ) and steered them to victory... but sad that he could not keep them together too long... And yes - Hazaron Khwahishe aisi is a very powerful film  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3057 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 01:42 pm: |
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Jkm:appudu operation cheyinchukunte money itchevaranta. 500 rs or something. plus ekkuva operations chesina govt doctors ki bonus, propmotion itchevaru. aa time lo chala pedda scams jariginayi.
garibi hatao ani slums slums lepi paradhibbaru anta....dhed dhimaag gallu...aakhariki Indira Gandhikey bhayam vesi emergency etthi para dhobbbindhi |
   
Jkm
Junior Artist Username: Jkm
Post Number: 559 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.235.145.222
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 01:38 pm: |
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appudu operation cheyinchukunte money itchevaranta. 500 rs or something. plus ekkuva operations chesina govt doctors ki bonus, propmotion itchevaru. aa time lo chala pedda scams jariginayi. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
   
Telugu_times
Side Hero Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 4476 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 01:14 pm: |
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thappu needhi kaadhu neee posts ki respond avuthunna maadhi...>>> Late gaa ayinaa, latest gaa gamaninchaaru. Other than his Kansas state univ thread, I ignored all his posts.  |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3051 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 01:08 pm: |
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Nbkfan:Ee extra comments enduku? contradict my point that emergency did not add up anything to family planning. Oka sari google cheyyi. you will get tonnes of information on this.
pelli kaani vallaki vasectomy operations endhira babu....ur truly a Squirrel Catcher....thappu needhi kaadhu neee posts ki respond avuthunna maadhi... |
   
Kingaa_bongaa
Comedian Username: Kingaa_bongaa
Post Number: 1603 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 134.163.255.25
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:41 am: |
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Nbkfan:Raktha Mega Fans di Dabbulu Raktham konna customers di Land Government di Father Theresa peru matuku chiru di. siggu chetu
OK , The way it works is, Celebrities use their popularity to do such things. they dont need to spend from their pockets For example TDP/NBK colect funds from all over the world. trust name NTR, good name also goes to NBK & TDP NTR intoduced 2Rs/Kg biyyam. rest of the money did not come from his pocket. its tax payers money, but ee rojuki kooda nuvvu cheppukuntaav, NTR adhi chesaadu idhi chesaadu ani. Same thing applies to YSR, what ever they do is public money, not one penny from their pockets. but Name/fame always goes to them. Thats just how it works. As OT says, DONT PEEK EEKALU ON EGGS. Look at ur signature every time u post a message. Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. |
   
Sachin
Comedian Username: Sachin
Post Number: 1719 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 68.100.138.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:39 am: |
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oka vela CCT vala jarigina manchilo chiru ki emi sambhandam ledu ani nuvvu ani unte..nee antha edavani , thalakimaasina vaadini, thadutheginavaadini, EP ni nenu soodaledu anta..nuvvu alaaani unte.. |
   
Sachin
Comedian Username: Sachin
Post Number: 1718 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 68.100.138.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:38 am: |
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Nbkfan:Raktha Mega Fans di Dabbulu Raktham konna customers di Land Government di Father Theresa peru matuku chiru di. siggu chetu
memu blood ichedi maa chiru kosam ..neekosam kaadugaaaa...EP disco aaapi pani choodu... |
   
Nbkfan
Comedian Username: Nbkfan
Post Number: 1256 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:36 am: |
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Goonda, where did i change my stance? . Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Goonda
Hero Username: Goonda
Post Number: 10140 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 146.18.173.73
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:35 am: |
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Nbkfan:
neeku idi saripotundhi |
   
Nbkfan
Comedian Username: Nbkfan
Post Number: 1255 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:35 am: |
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Jkm, I am not supporting emergency. I just raised a point that it did good to some issue. You can always argue for or agnaist it. Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Jkm
Junior Artist Username: Jkm
Post Number: 554 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.235.145.222
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:33 am: |
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Nbkfan:Ee extra comments enduku? contradict my point that emergency did not add up anything to family planning. Oka sari google cheyyi. you will get tonnes of information on this.
NTR movie yamagola lo emergency meeda sattires vuntayi. yama urgency ani. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
   
Nbkfan
Comedian Username: Nbkfan
Post Number: 1253 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:28 am: |
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>>babai...sachin cheppinattu CCT lo thappulu patti....forced family planning lo manchini choosthunna Squirrell Cather NBKfan....>> Idi sarle. Malla chiru CCT expansion ki land kosam govt ki apply chesadanta. Pinasodu. Real boom valla 1000 crores vuntundhi property. Maala support Raktha Mega Fans di Dabbulu Raktham konna customers di Land Government di Father Theresa peru matuku chiru di. siggu chetu Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Nbkfan
Comedian Username: Nbkfan
Post Number: 1252 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:25 am: |
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>>Please get the perk out of this thread.....dont make a mockery of urself....>> El, Ee extra comments enduku? contradict my point that emergency did not add up anything to family planning. Oka sari google cheyyi. you will get tonnes of information on this. Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Nbkfan
Comedian Username: Nbkfan
Post Number: 1251 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:23 am: |
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Goonda, Emiti Janalu chesedi. Power misuse cheyyakapothe janalu valla. misuse chethe balisi cheyyatam. Give credit where it deserves Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Jkm
Junior Artist Username: Jkm
Post Number: 553 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.235.145.222
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:20 am: |
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Kingaa_bongaa:we do not vote directly for the PM . it would have been different if we were.
thats true. okappudu MGR, NTR direct elections kosam try chesaru. ippudu aa fight chiru cheyyali. congress vallu NTR ni comment chese vaaru CM avvaka mundu. jayamalini meeting pettina janam vastharu ani sattire vesevaranta. inko joke vundedi. sholay release ayina tarvatha hema malini US type direct elections lo nunchunte PM ayi vundedi ani. adi direct election side effect. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3049 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:19 am: |
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Goonda:deeniki kaaranam janalu, not leaders.. indians eppudu subtle ga vuntaru. adi telidu malli nuvvu ikkada preachings.
babai...sachin cheppinattu CCT lo thappulu patti....forced family planning lo manchini choosthunna Squirrell Cather NBKfan.... |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3048 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:18 am: |
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Nbkfan:Emiti radio programmes tho maredi? Neeku mandu ekkinda? Ee roju ki Muslims/christians ki family planning chesthe devudu sikshatdu ani cheptaru valla theologists. Dont talak BS. appreciate good when it is done. Inka nayam SC/ST atrocity act enduku radio lo publicity iddhamani analedu. There needs to be laws to control society
Appreciate good aaa??? Please get the perk out of this thread.....dont make a mockery of urself.... |
   
Goonda
Hero Username: Goonda
Post Number: 10139 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 146.18.173.73
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:16 am: |
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Nbkfan:On eof the biggest things Gandhi family did to india is "Sustaining Democracy". India lanti muti-cultural society lo absolute power undi kooda misuse cheyyakunda democracy ki vupuri posaru.
deeniki kaaranam janalu, not leaders.. indians eppudu subtle ga vuntaru. adi telidu malli nuvvu ikkada preachings. |
   
Nbkfan
Comedian Username: Nbkfan
Post Number: 1250 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:14 am: |
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On eof the biggest things Gandhi family did to india is "Sustaining Democracy". India lanti muti-cultural society lo absolute power undi kooda misuse cheyyakunda democracy ki vupuri posaru. Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Nbkfan
Comedian Username: Nbkfan
Post Number: 1249 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:12 am: |
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EL, Emiti radio programmes tho maredi? Neeku mandu ekkinda? Ee roju ki Muslims/christians ki family planning chesthe devudu sikshatdu ani cheptaru valla theologists. Dont talak BS. appreciate good when it is done. Inka nayam SC/ST atrocity act enduku radio lo publicity iddhamani analedu. There needs to be laws to control society. Road ni pove varivi kosara? Dont talk rubbish. Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Kingaa_bongaa
Comedian Username: Kingaa_bongaa
Post Number: 1602 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 134.163.255.25
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:05 am: |
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Jkm:She became PM to a country with largest democracy when many countries still didn't have voting rights to woman. iron lady. kaani aame cabinet lo ladies ni evarni encourage cheyyaledu.
we do not vote directly for the PM . it would have been different if we were. Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3046 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:04 am: |
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Kingaa_bongaa:thoda kottaledemo hero
thigh hit...movie hit  |
   
Kingaa_bongaa
Comedian Username: Kingaa_bongaa
Post Number: 1601 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 134.163.255.25
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:03 am: |
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Killer225:very good film. Dont know why it wasnt a major success.
thoda kottaledemo hero  Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3045 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:02 am: |
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Kingaa_bongaa:eeyana peekina oka pani ento?
CM gaa unnappudu rojuki 1C theesikellakapothey wife dinner pettedhi kaadhanta intlo...chaala strict principled family |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 182 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 199.171.86.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:01 am: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:regarding legacy....mantra to become a PM candidate in congres... tag gandhi to ur name....have an intenrnational girl friend....stay ooutside india for 25 yrs and comeback have a jolly india tour in the name of learning india...file for nomination and become PM ....
I suppry El on this.....Congress has become the bastion of corruption and power mongering..with blatant flagration of ideology for the derived benefits of just being in power........Valla punyame ee reservation mahammari and people like Mandha Krishna |
   
Kingaa_bongaa
Comedian Username: Kingaa_bongaa
Post Number: 1600 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 134.163.255.25
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:01 am: |
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Jkm:sanjay gandhi friends bangarappa, gundurao, and janardhara reddy, inka chala vunnaru. rowdy batch. arachakalu chese vaaru desamlo
nedurumalli aaa? eeyana peekina oka pani ento? eeyana pellaam ki ministry ichina tharvaatha, eeyanaki central ministry ivvaledhani aligindhi , worast fellows. inkaa annee oke family ki ivaali , thu characterless fellows Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. |
   
Jkm
Junior Artist Username: Jkm
Post Number: 552 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.235.145.222
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:59 am: |
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Telugu_times:Margaret Alva from karnataka, undedhi gaa
okallo iddaro vunde vaaru. adi kooda ivvali kabatti. indira gandhi meetings lo andaru magavalle. gadagada ladinchedi anta andarini. ramakridshna hegde anduke personal secratary post ki resign chesindi. office lo assistants lo kooda ladies vunde vaaru kaadu. sonia gandhi vache varaku congress lo woman ki importance ledu. ee vishayam lo sonia ni mechu kovachu. she gives preference to woman. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3044 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:58 am: |
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Rajusk:Indilo Family history/legacy lekunda vachina vallu unte ..it is really appreciable ...kaani most of these leaders are from hereditary ruling families and were imposed on the nation..of course still credit goes to them to sustain the pressures..
regarding legacy....mantra to become a PM candidate in congres... tag gandhi to ur name....have an intenrnational girl friend....stay ooutside india for 25 yrs and comeback have a jolly india tour in the name of learning india...file for nomination and become PM .... |
   
Rajusk
Comedian Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 1149 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:55 am: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:kyamedy enti antey...third world countries like india bangladesh and even pakistan had woman prime ministers but not USA .
Indilo Family history/legacy lekunda vachina vallu unte ..it is really appreciable ...kaani most of these leaders are from hereditary ruling families and were imposed on the nation..of course still credit goes to them to sustain the pressures.. |
   
Telugu_times
Side Hero Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 4471 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:54 am: |
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not bangla...donno wether they had any >>> Infact, Bangladesh has a woman prime minister and their main opposition leader is also a woman. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3041 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:52 am: |
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Telugu_times:sri lanka, phillipines too burma got a good woman opp leader.
i meant sri lanks...not bangla...donno wether they had any |
   
Telugu_times
Side Hero Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 4470 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:51 am: |
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kyamedy enti antey...third world countries like india bangladesh and even pakistan had woman prime ministers but not USA ....kikiki>> sri lanka, phillipines too burma got a good woman opp leader. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3040 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:49 am: |
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Jkm:indira gandhi is india's pride ani cheppu kovachu. She became PM to a country with largest democracy when many countries still
kyamedy enti antey...third world countries like india bangladesh and even pakistan had woman prime ministers but not USA ....kikiki |
   
Telugu_times
Side Hero Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 4469 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:47 am: |
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kaani aame cabinet lo ladies ni evarni encourage cheyyaledu. >>> Margaret Alva from karnataka, undedhi gaa? |
   
Jkm
Junior Artist Username: Jkm
Post Number: 549 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.235.145.222
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:37 am: |
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indira gandhi is india's pride ani cheppu kovachu. She became PM to a country with largest democracy when many countries still didn't have voting rights to woman. iron lady. kaani aame cabinet lo ladies ni evarni encourage cheyyaledu. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
   
Rajusk
Comedian Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 1147 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250
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Telugu_times:Thappulu seyyadam maanava sahajam, kshaminchadam utthamudi gunam
You mean Tamil Nadu CM Karunanidhi ? |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3037 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Killer225:kaani "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" ane vishayam manam gurtunchukovali.
exactly....bad past should always be remebered such that we wont go throght that path again.... The movie was awesome....when the only guy who lives life by good principles(shiney ahujas dad) is arrested....u lose trust on everything.... |
   
Okatelugodu
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Post Number: 985 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.130
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:15 am: |
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Telugu_times:Kontha mandhiki, sarigga samaj kaaka, iddharu/mugguru ladies ni pelli sesu kunnaaru. Thappulu seyyadam maanava sahajam, kshaminchadam utthamudi gunam ani guluG seppaar!
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Rajusk
Comedian Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 1146 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:08 am: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:family planning entha ccheppu...
Jokes apart..on a serious note..back in those days child mortality was very high..as a result may be people wanted to have more children..because they were not sure how many of them would survive.. Google and find out..what was the Male mortality rate by the time of Independence and compare it with today.. |
   
Killer225
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Post Number: 75 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 195.10.3.194
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Elcaminocapastrino:
very good film. Dont know why it wasnt a major success. manaki mana gurinchi telusukovadam ishtam ledanukuntaa... kaani "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" ane vishayam manam gurtunchukovali. leka pothey maro emergency raadani gurantee emi ledhu. ofcourse ippudu paristhithi emergency kantey takkuva emi ledanukondi |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3036 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Telugu_times:Kontha mandhiki, sarigga samaj kaaka, iddharu/mugguru ladies ni pelli sesu kunnaaru.
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Telugu_times
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Post Number: 4466 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10
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aaa rojullo oka advertisement undaydhi. Iddharu leka mugguru chaalu ani. Kontha mandhiki, sarigga samaj kaaka, iddharu/mugguru ladies ni pelli sesu kunnaaru. Thappulu seyyadam maanava sahajam, kshaminchadam utthamudi gunam ani guluG seppaar! |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3035 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:06 am: |
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Rajusk:ponile kshaminchu EL...appatlo TV lu levu..soap operalu levu.. so janalaki time pass ki em cheyyalo teliyaka..pillalu kannaru.. ippudu choodu..TV choodadanike time ledu..inka pillalani ekkada kantaru
Appudu annitikantey powerful mode of communication undindhi..... RADIO.... Hitler adhi use chesukuni almost world conquer chesadu....family planning entha ccheppu... |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3034 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Jkm:opposition edo question chesthe ee world lo lancham theesukoni vallu evaru ani mana YSR style lo opposition ni reverse attack chesindi. anduke desamlo congress ni anni states lo banda boothulu thidathaaru. oka PM position lo vundi aa mata anataniki dhiryam vundavachu kaani party workers ki elanti signal ichinattu ? ika chota nayukulandariki license itchinattayindi. sanjay gandhi friends bangarappa, gundurao, and janardhara reddy, inka chala vunnaru. rowdy batch. arachakalu chese vaaru desamlo. family planning ani cheppi pelli kaani vallaki kooda operation cheyinche vaaru. emergency time vaddule. nenu putte vunna kaani pedda idea ledu. peddollu cheppe vaaru. arachakam.
IF possible try to watch this movie... HAZAARON KHWAISHEN AISI.....u will love it.....shows country through idealitic youth during the era of emergency.....u will be furious |
   
Sachin
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Post Number: 1714 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 68.100.138.242
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Elcaminocapastrino:goodthings aaa????poddhunney mandhu thaagi vasthaava nuvvu DB ki???? family planning succes cheyyali antey road lo padi kosi pareyyatam kaadhu.... give privileges to people having one child.....iddharu untey cut cheseyyi aa privileges....anthey kaani kattesi kosestara.....balayya fan vi anipinchavu
NBKFan ni emi anaku..ayana emergency lo koodaa manchini choosaaadu,, but CCT vallla jarige manchi kanapadadu..only thing chiru blood ammukunnaadu land freegaa nokkkesaaadu... |
   
Rajusk
Comedian Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 1145 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250
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Elcaminocapastrino:family planning succes cheyyali antey road lo padi kosi pareyyatam kaadhu....
ponile kshaminchu EL...appatlo TV lu levu..soap operalu levu.. so janalaki time pass ki em cheyyalo teliyaka..pillalu kannaru.. ippudu choodu..TV choodadanike time ledu..inka pillalani ekkada kantaru |
   
Siloan
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Post Number: 2601 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 155.201.35.54
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Elcaminocapastrino:anthey kaani kattesi kosestara.....balayya fan vi anipinchavu
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Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3033 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Nbkfan:Mana population devunni nammukoni family planning chesevaru kadu. Naru posinode neeru poyada ani theories cheppevaru. Govt took some stringent actions during emergency time. though emnergency itself is wrong, there are some good things happenned because of it. Family Planning is one of them.
goodthings aaa????poddhunney mandhu thaagi vasthaava nuvvu DB ki???? family planning succes cheyyali antey road lo padi kosi pareyyatam kaadhu.... give privileges to people having one child.....iddharu untey cut cheseyyi aa privileges....anthey kaani kattesi kosestara.....balayya fan vi anipinchavu |
   
Siloan
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Post Number: 2599 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 155.201.35.54
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Nbkfan:and now they are turning to a buffon like CHIRU. right EL
mari YSsao? |
   
Nbkfan
Comedian Username: Nbkfan
Post Number: 1248 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
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and now they are turning to a buffon like CHIRU. right EL Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3032 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Okatelugodu:I guess there would've been a much stronger opposition to Indira if he lived longer.
congress had a golden oppurtunity in their hands...No opposition....young india....they could have done miracles....what they end up introducing was corruption...In states like bihar the agravaranams unleashed their power on badugus....no law and order...people used to live in pitiful conditions.... Imagine how they turned up for a jackass like laloo for help...LOL...it means the other party was more horrible than him....u can imagine.....same is the case with NTR in AP....congress was so horrible that lesser idiots like laloo and NTR started to appear like GODS to common man...... |
   
Jkm
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Post Number: 548 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 216.235.145.222
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Elcaminocapastrino:
5 stars man. opposition edo question chesthe ee world lo lancham theesukoni vallu evaru ani mana YSR style lo opposition ni reverse attack chesindi. anduke desamlo congress ni anni states lo banda boothulu thidathaaru. oka PM position lo vundi aa mata anataniki dhiryam vundavachu kaani party workers ki elanti signal ichinattu ? ika chota nayukulandariki license itchinattayindi. sanjay gandhi friends bangarappa, gundurao, and janardhara reddy, inka chala vunnaru. rowdy batch. arachakalu chese vaaru desamlo. family planning ani cheppi pelli kaani vallaki kooda operation cheyinche vaaru. emergency time vaddule. nenu putte vunna kaani pedda idea ledu. peddollu cheppe vaaru. arachakam. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
   
Nbkfan
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Post Number: 1247 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
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Sanjiv Gandhi did try to implement forcefully in slums. Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Nbkfan
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Post Number: 1246 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
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EL, Mana population devunni nammukoni family planning chesevaru kadu. Naru posinode neeru poyada ani theories cheppevaru. Govt took some stringent actions during emergency time. though emnergency itself is wrong, there are some good things happenned because of it. Family Planning is one of them. Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, Legend OT ki Fan |
   
Kkd
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Post Number: 4079 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.18.228
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Elcaminocapastrino:Ravino...weherever U R ...come to this thread and explain why congress did it and also defend ur stand of unconditional support to that party
Guruji ki Indira congress ki fan kadhu...only YS congress ki fan ani Bitter seppamannadu.  |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3031 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Nbkfan:emergencu time lo Family Planning operations balvamthaga chesaru. kasto koosto janabha adupulo ki vacchindhi. Lekapothe 150 croroes ayyetollamu ee patiki
babu...nuvvu neee views nee dhaggara pettuko....population thagginchataniki balavanthanga kosthara??? O pani cheyyi bomb etthi dngu people sattharu population thagudhhi |
   
Ind2usa
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Post Number: 1147 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 205.174.22.26
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Nbkfan:emergencu time lo Family Planning operations balvamthaga chesaru. kasto koosto janabha adupulo ki vacchindhi. Lekapothe 150 croroes ayyetollamu ee patiki
I ndont think so. this happened only in few places because of Sanjay Gandhi?? |
   
Nbkfan
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Post Number: 1245 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 66.239.163.214
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 09:42 am: |
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emergencu time lo Family Planning operations balvamthaga chesaru. kasto koosto janabha adupulo ki vacchindhi. Lekapothe 150 croroes ayyetollamu ee patiki Cinemallo NBK, Politics lo YSR, DB lo OT ki Fan |
   
Siloan
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Post Number: 2596 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 155.201.35.54
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 09:40 am: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:Ravino...weherever U R ...come to this thread and explain why congress did it and also defend ur stand of unconditional support to that party.... In the same manner also let the people of this DB know what happened to the real congress leaders behind sikh riots....has atleast one of those guys have been convicted????
Pedhollaki pavala vaddi...indiramma padakam...ivi saalu bottom line: emergency lo poor people ki manche jarigindhi...common man was safe. idhe Guluji seppedi |
   
Okatelugodu
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Post Number: 980 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.130
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 09:36 am: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:people say the emergency improsonment took a toll on jaya prakash narayans life and he succmbed to it subsequently
I guess there would've been a much stronger opposition to Indira if he lived longer. Opposition leaders that fought emergency during that time including Vajpayee, Advani are a dying breed of politicians in India in my opinion-- who know how to conduct themselves build consensus, inspite of differences of opinion. Many of today's party just have a leader or a power centre and it's c oterie running the show and rest do not matter.(probably commies are an exception) |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3029 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 09:35 am: |
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Ravino...weherever U R ...come to this thread and explain why congress did it and also defend ur stand of unconditional support to that party.... In the same manner also let the people of this DB know what happened to the real congress leaders behind sikh riots....has atleast one of those guys have been convicted???? |
   
Okatelugodu
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Post Number: 979 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.130
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I also once attended a talk by George Fernandez once when he spoke about emergency. In the same talk, he explained how Coke tried to humiliate him through a Turkish guy who was head of world bank, when he was railway minister in V.P. Singh's govt in 90s-- for banning Coke as Industries minister in 70s. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3027 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Okatelugodu:George Fernandez was amongst many opposition leaders who was put in prison. George's family at that time lived in US at the place of George's friend -- an American. I read a piece written by that American friend of George sometime ago about emergency.
people say the emergency improsonment took a toll on jaya prakash narayans life and he succmbed to it subsequently |
   
Okatelugodu
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Post Number: 978 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.43.48.130
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Elcaminocapastrino:No opposition party
George Fernandez was amongst many opposition leaders who was put in prison. George's family at that time lived in US at the place of George's friend -- an American. I read a piece written by that American friend of George sometime ago about emergency. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3024 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 09:17 am: |
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The Cause Indiramma in her constutuency seemed to have done illegal things during elections like using state facilties for her favor. So high court cancelled her victory and told her not to contest for 6 years in elections. THen outof desperation she did this act... I repeat Congress can stoop to any level for power...even if it is making a mockery of democracy or human life and liberty |
   
Onlytruth
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Post Number: 10518 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 24.195.246.255
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EMERGENCY 19 months pettindhi Indira aa time lo all types of elections suspended No civil liberties No freedom of press No opposition party |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3023 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Alochinchu:Emergency ante emiti? President rule? Military rule? Who will have the power to rule?
article 352 of our constitution allows the president to declare emergency and provide the law to an individual(here indhiramma) or a group of individuals to rule without opposition.Somehow our indiramma convinced the then president to impose this law.Millitary doesnt come into pic.One of the good things Chacha nehru did was he never encouraged millitary to interfere in ruling where our sister country pakistan messed up. http://specials.rediff.com/news/2005/jun/28sld1.htm |
   
Onlytruth
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Post Number: 10517 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 24.195.246.255
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Alochinchu:Emergency ante emiti? President rule? Military rule?
Govt rule ye.. but No rule , No law Govt can arrest ANYBODY, literally ANYBODY without showing reason IG jailed all opposition leaders, all newspaper editors... Her son sanjay gandhi desam meedha padi chesina arachakalu anni inni kaadantaaru peddhollu |
   
Onlytruth
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Worst prime minister in terms of atrocities against who oppose her Worst CM on the same lines Indiramma rajyam vachindhi |
   
Alochinchu
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Emergency ante emiti? President rule? Military rule? Who will have the power to rule? I heard in democratic nation military cannot take over. please enlighten me.. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3022 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Evaranna uncles aa time lo youth lo unnara??? untey mee experiences seppandi |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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R V Chandramouli, a retired IAS officer, was Gujarat's home secretary when President Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed declared a state of Emergency in the country on June 25-26, 1975. Chandramouli recounts what life was like for civil servants during those 19 months when democracy was suspended and India was ruled by a virtual dictator. The Emergency was declared on the intervening night of June 25-26, 1975. It so happened that I was not in Ahmedabad but in Bombay (later renamed Mumbai) for some personal work. When I reached Ahmedabad on the 26th morning, I expected only my driver at the railway station to pick me up, but I found quite a few constables and some senior police officials too. I thought riots had broken out in Ahmedabad. When they told me an Emergency had been imposed, I asked, 'What is this Emergency?' I asked the question because there was no aggression by Pakistan or China. Then, they said, it is an internal Emergency. My experience in Gujarat as home secretary can be divided into two parts -- the period when a popular government ruled the state, and the period after the Emergency was imposed. Babubhai Patel became chief minister following the 1975 assembly election. I was the chief election officer. It was a Janata Morcha government in which the Jan Sangh, the old Socialist Party and many others were constituents. From the station that morning I drove straight to the chief minister's residence. He was a very decent man, one who never played games. He said we are opposed to the Emergency politically, but we have to implement the central government's valid orders. He told me you are free to implement it whenever you think a valid order has been passed by the central government. We will not embarrass you by giving a contradictory order. That was the beginning. The first thing the central government did was order the arrest of Morarji Desai, who became prime minister after the Emergency, Jayaprakash Narayan, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, L K Advani, etc. The biggest culprit in the eyes of Delhi in Gujarat was Babubhai Patel, but he happened to be the chief minister. The central government could not pass an order to arrest a chief minister. As far as I can recollect, we did not arrest many people in Gujarat so long as the Babubhai Patel government was in place. The central government had sent orders on censoring newspapers. We took the view that any criticism of the Emergency could not be considered to be a threat to the security of the State. In north India, there was a blanket ban on public meetings. Haryana was under Bansilal then. They wanted us to pass a similar order in Gujarat too, banning public meetings. We said we couldn't do it. At that time, a committed Gandhian, whose name I think was Chunnilal Vaidya, was running a weekly paper in which he wrote anti-Emergency articles. The central government wanted to stop him. We didn't agree. He continued printing the paper. Then, Delhi took action against him directly under the Printing Regulation Act or something like that. Ultimately, he had to shut the paper because Delhi threatened the press which printed it. Then, he started sending hand-written journals by post. Soon, the post office stopped collecting his mail. Gradually, the central government's anger against the Gujarat government was mounting. Indira Gandhi was determined to see all non-Congress governments dismissed. In Tamil Nadu, then governor K K Shah was asked to make a report that then chief minister M Karunanidhi was corrupt. On the basis of that report, Karunanidhi was dismissed. In case of Babubhai Patel, that could not be done. Governor K K Viswanathan, though a Congressman, was a very fair person. So they resorted to the time honoured method of getting Patel defeated by defections. Babubhai resigned and President's rule was imposed in the state. I still remember Babubhai's greatness. The Delhi government used to send proposals to arrest an MLA who was known to be a smuggler. Once we found that there was evidence to arrest him under COFEPOSA (Conservation of Foreign Exchange and Prevention of Smuggling Activities Act). I signed it and sent it to the chief minister. At that time, the Rajya Sabha elections were due. Babubhai saw the papers and said: 'I know he will vote against my candidate, but I don't want to deprive him of his vote'. He then asked me to postpone the arrest by a day or two. I must say such a request was never expected from a political person. I was removed from the home secretary's post in May 1976 and appointed to the education department. I knew it was coming, and it was such a relief for me because the conflict of conscience was too much. There are occasions you find you have to do things that are absolutely, one hundred per cent wrong. I knew that there was talk in Delhi that the Emergency was not properly enforced in Gujarat, which meant we hadn't put the opponents of the Emergency in jail. I told the person who succeeded me that the job required not application of mind, but application of pen. The first thing the governor was forced to do was ban all meetings. Earlier, those who opposed the Emergency used to meet and air their views against its imposition. Now, that voice was stifled. Newspapers also became afraid to write against Delhi. An interesting incident happened under President's rule. The director of the Intelligence Bureau issued a list of people to be detained. Of course, all those who were against the Emergency were arrested. A person who was with Babubhai earlier and had defected to the Congress also was in the list. I think the IB fellows didn't do their homework. So, the man who was against the Emergency earlier, but was supporting it now landed in jail. It was a funny situation. By December 1976, it was clear that Mrs Gandhi would call elections soon. Two things I want to say about the Emergency are: one, the Congress people used to think that if the Emergency was strictly imposed, they would win the subsequent election. But surprisingly, in the states where the Emergency was not implemented ruthlessly, the Congress fared better. In places like Bihar, UP, Haryana, Punjab, Rajasthan, MP, etc the Congress got zero. People were very angry. In Gujarat, the Congress got 10 seats and the Opposition 16! Two, wherever there was compulsory sterilisation, the Congress lost heavily. It was the darkest period of Indian democracy, a blot. It was shameless use of power. The good thing that came out of the Emergency was the fact that Indian voters may be illiterate, but they know the value of putting the ballot paper into the ballot box. Today, I think no government can tamper with our democracy. Even the poorest man, even the most illiterate, the unlettered Adivasi knows that he has the most valuable right with him to teach a lesson to the politicians, at least for five years! |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3020 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
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Emergency symbolised the arrogance and mindless cruelty of power. Though Mrs Gandhi declared in her first address to the nation after declaring Emergency that there was no need to panic, it was panic she set in the minds of millions of Indians. To this date the question that remains unanswered is, how did our democratic order collapse so meekly before authoritarianism? To paraphrase a quote, how did Indians, when ordered to bend, crawl so easily? The lesson from 1975 is that democracy cannot succeed without constant vigilance on the part of the citizenry.} How well have we learned that lesson? |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
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Post Number: 3019 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 08:57 am: |
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Brute power can never be a substitute for people power, which Indira Gandhi continued to lose through the period. She continued to rule, but India was clearly out of her governance. And, realizing this perhaps, as suddenly as she imposed Emergency she withdrew the measure in January 1977 and ordered fresh elections. The Opposition leaders who were persecuted by her banded together under the Janata Party, and the electorate dealt the Congress party a sound defeat, its first ever at the federal level. } |
   
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Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3018 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 08:56 am: |
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The Emergency also saw the rise of the real power behind the throne: Sanjay Gandhi. In her need to confide in someone during this extraordinarily trying period, Mrs Gandhi relied more and more on her younger son, a big advocate of Emergency. At his behest, she clamped press censorship. Thousands of her Opposition leaders, including veterans like Jayaprakash Narayan, were thrown into jail. The Maintenance of Internal Security Act, under which anyone could be detained indefinitely without the right to appeal, was rampantly used. Through it all, the heavy hand of Sanjay Gandhi could be seen. He imposed forcible sterilisation drives, ordered slums bulldozed to 'beautify and de-congest' cities, banned industrial strikes, attacked the progressives and crushed any opposition effectively with his trusted band of Youth Congress workers and the police. } |
   
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Post Number: 3017 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 08:55 am: |
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The early 1970s was a period of widespread discontent in India. The war in 1971 and the refugee influx from East Pakistan compounded the inflation, and unemployment and corruption in the government were rife. Gujarat and Bihar were the most volatile states, with students in the forefront of the agitation. Jayaprakash Narayan in Bihar led the anti-government rallies. He believed the youth will usher in social change and announced that the moment for 'total revolution' had come. The Congress government in Gujarat resigned in 1974, and in the fresh elections, the party was routed. It dawned upon Indira and her coterie that power was slowly slipping from her grasp. The last straw was the Allahabad high court's declaring in June 1975 that Indira's 1971 election victory was invalid, because of the misuse of state power and the government machinery. The court unseated her and barred her from contesting elections for six years. Mrs Gandhi, who relied excessively on an inner circle whose protagonist was her younger son Sanjay, imposed the Emergency. With Article 352 of the Constitution granting the executive extraordinary powers, Mrs Gandhi launched a massive crackdown on civil liberties and political opposition. In her own words, democracy was brought 'to a grinding halt'. |
   
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Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 3016 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 08:52 am: |
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On June 26 high court declared indhirAMMAs selection to lok sabha as invalid ...she declared emergency like a coward.... 19 months torture choopinchindhi..... peddha peddha leaders ni jail lo vesi para dhobbindhi...most of them are gandhian principle followers....poor guys donga cases bahayinchindhi.... worst prime minister we ever had |