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i doubt it man.....Azzu popularity took a plunge only after the fixing i think.....may be i'm wrong




99 world cup zimbabwe game taruvata crowd chanting gurtuleda. his dad was in the crowd that day and felt very bad. he didnt get harassed physically but by hearing to the hatred fans had against Azzu. If team loses captain should be blamed I agree but not as if cornering him as sole reason.

people in this DB are all from AP and were/are DB fans at some point in time. I have discussed with some north indians who r pure azzu haters long before match fixing scandal.


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Azzu victim ani nuvvu anukuntey....upto you.....i respect your opinion




thanks. I am not arguing that he is totally innocent, dal me kuch kala hain, but he doesnt deserve all the disrespect and hatred from band wagon fans.
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fans kuda mostly ganged up against Azhar around world cup 1999 for all the failures of team
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mmm...i doubt it man.....Azzu popularity took a plunge only after the fixing i think.....may be i'm wrong.....1999 failure....i dont know whom to blame....we had our batsmen scoring big....Rahul,sourva and sachin all fired.....but its that agarkar over against Zimbabwe which cost us that tournament antaaru......eerojullo aithey...adhi captain thappey antaaru....but....I dont blame him......

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do you think he cant afford diamond watches with what he earns normally.
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daaniki answer Azzu should know......how come he fell to that low that to cover his lifestyle he sold nation's pride ani........jadeja,,,,,ajaya sharma...ect etc......as i said before.....we can count them all in...but not filter Azhar out.......he is the centre.....now dont ask me how i can decide/conclude.....we all follow the same press/media and get to our conclusions......Azzu victim ani nuvvu anukuntey....upto you.....i respect your opinion..........
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BCCI used him a scapegoat theory is a new one....i never heard of it before....




BCCI okkate kadhu, fans kuda mostly ganged up against Azhar around world cup 1999 for all the failures of team. remember the incident in world cup when his dad was harassed and crowd bad mouthing him for the indian team loss. by that time match fixing has not even surfaced.

I agree that he was not very communicative and friendly with the team, especially after his second marriage. appatnunchi separate entity ga chusevaru, prati failure ki azhar ni blame chesevaru. he got axed few times from the team or as captain and came back in style.


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Selling matches for diamond watches




do you think he cant afford diamond watches with what he earns normally. he had that habit of wearing rich clothes,watches for njoyment. some players njoy boozing,partying azzu njoys nawabi clothing. whatz wrong.

what about jadeja, why was he life banned and then exonerated. doesnt it mean that BCCI did a blunder and screwed up a great cricketer. same happened with Azhar. "blown out of proportions"
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IPC bhai....naaku kooda chaala baadha estundhi......the one circketer i liked most of 90's and earlier turned out like this.......

match fixing kaani lekuntey...he would be an example/model for many people.....

sad that happened ......

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we are more interested in punishing a couple of people and not cleansing the system
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100% correct i agree.....indulo no argument.....
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no doubt Azhar was the main culprit in this episode....but as always we end with a kangaroo court justice where we are more interested in punishing a couple of people and not cleansing the system
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In whatever way we try. we only end up adding more culprits to Match fixing saga but not eliminate 'Azhar' from it.....he sold himslef and its hard to defend him.......

it's not just a player who is accused we are talking of here....It's 'Indian Captain'......and that is a big role......if a captain sells himself...he not only betrayed his nation but his players who look upto him.........except the players who teamed up with him in that fixing......

Azhar as a player sold.....wouldn't be as big as him the Captain invloved in it......
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BCCI used him a scapegoat theory is a new one....i never heard of it before....>>>

How can you hear this theory? This theory came up yesterday, in CCDB




this story was always in circulation eversince match-fixing came up.....it was widely believed that BCCI official somehow were linked or Knew about it and didn't take action.....

another version was they wanted this investigation to come to a conclusion given the damage it was causing....if only a couple of players were responsible then they would have brought criminal charges or dragged them to court....but what happened in the end was punishing a couple of players and ending the matter for public and media sake
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Film_fan:

Jannat ela undhi......worth watching aa?



DVD watch avg movie match fixing mida base chesi tisadu
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Jannat ela undhi......worth watching aa?
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Monna Jannat movie chusa Azhar,Sidhu,Bob Whoolmer,Shahid Afridi ni indirect ga chupichadu
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How can you hear this theory? This theory came up yesterday, in CCDB
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swarry....still one day late......
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BCCI used him a scapegoat theory is a new one....i never heard of it before....>>>

How can you hear this theory? This theory came up yesterday, in CCDB
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I liked Azhar for his wristy flicks.....and his electric fielding.......

Match fixing is Desa Droham however we try to justify it by comparing to corrupt politicians......

Desa Drohi...and i hated him to the core when he used his minority card by saying....he is vicitmised because he is a muslim.... forgot that we all loved him as a captain and made him a captain of Hindusthan.........

Selling matches for diamond watches....is worst than what most politicians do.....for that matter.....


BCCI used him a scapegoat theory is a new one....i never heard of it before....


my opinion........
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Vengsarkar was not that much ziddu, compared to Gaekwad,Gavaskar, Amarnath.




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Vengsarkar was not that much ziddu, compared to Gaekwad,Gavaskar, Amarnath.
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ayya baboi, azhar thread lo srinath, gavaskar, marshall aa?
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test matches ante vengsarkar , shastri jiddu chusevallam. onedays lo kuda same jiddu for 40 overs india lo games unte. last 10 overs shastri wickets vadilesi slogging untadhi. away games aithe especially WI, NZ etc 100 - 150 untundhi total in a one day game

srikanth as a captain was good for few series , but losing was a habit at that time for indian team




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Rajusk:

ee otami ki draw ki madya nilichina vaade Sunil Manohar Gavaskar




Gavsakar retire ayyaka sangati nenu cheppedi. gavaskar naku telisindi 86,87 lo matrame meeru mari 76, 79 lo test matches gurinchi matladutunnaru, vaati knowledge ledu.

after gavaskar and before azhar came into team for few years chala series lu odipoindhi indian team. test matches ante vengsarkar , shastri jiddu chusevallam. onedays lo kuda same jiddu for 40 overs india lo games unte. last 10 overs shastri wickets vadilesi slogging untadhi. away games aithe especially WI, NZ etc 100 - 150 untundhi total in a one day game

srikanth as a captain was good for few series , but losing was a habit at that time for indian team
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Vengsarkar captain ga oka sari windies vellaru 1989. commentary on cheyyadam 10 mins late aithe india 3 wicks down undevi >>>>

I think in one match lo, Vengsarkar and Arshad Ayub lu, enno dhebbalu thini, odipothunna oka test ni save chesaaru. No wonder, he was called colonel.

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entha darunam ga odipotundhi anedhi question




ee otami ki draw ki madya nilichina vaade Sunil Manohar Gavaskar
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india were out for 100 and 66...darunam...i think we lost by 320 runs....




aa time lo india WI or SA vellindi ante series odipovatam question e kadhu, entha darunam ga odipotundhi anedhi question. Vengsarkar captain ga oka sari windies vellaru 1989. commentary on cheyyadam 10 mins late aithe india 3 wicks down undevi
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got some work, will be back after 1 hour
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india were out for 100 and 66...darunam...i think we lost by 320 runs....
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i can never forget the way he bowled against SA in ahmedabad



That was on a cracking Motera pitch, first time Srinath won the man of the match.Funny thing yenti ante after that series India went to SA where the South Africans took revenge by preparing a lighting quick durban wicket , India was all out for 80 odd runs on it
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basky, just kidding man
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Basky, are you sure Gavaskar scored 221 out of 406 runs. I doubt it. one day lo double century naa???




He score 178 runs on the 5th day...of a test match against the likes of Willis/Botham/Edmunds

3 Sep day 4 - India 2nd innings 76/0 (SM Gavaskar 42*, CPS Chauhan 32*)
4 Sep day 5 - India 2nd innings 429/8 (150.5 ov) - end of match
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sure .double sure >>>>



India 2nd innings (target: 403 runs) R M 4 6
SM Gavaskar c Murray b Jumadeen 102 245 13 0
AD Gaekwad c Kallicharran b Jumadeen 28 0
M Amarnath run out 85 440 0
GR Viswanath run out 112 220 15 0
BP Patel not out 49 0
S Madan Lal not out 1 0 0
Extras (b 8, lb 12, w 1, nb 8) 29
Total (4 wickets, 147 overs) 406
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sure .double sure




http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/63240 .html

Sunny 4th innings double century kottindi ee gaame..we fell short by 9 runs...

BI ..Not to snub you...I know after so many years..it is difficult to remember all those exact details...
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n the 1976 series in the West Indies, India chased 406 at Port of Spain to create a world record which stands to this day. The two men who fashioned the win were Sunny Gavaskar and Gundappa Vishwanath, who were later to become brothers-in-law
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sure .double sure
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DID u all forget the 221 SUNNY score at PORT of spain chasing 406 on the LaST day and sunny made double century on the single day innings..and lead india victory. >>>>

Basky, are you sure Gavaskar scored 221 out of 406 runs. I doubt it. one day lo double century naa???? Gavaskar ki, antha scene ledhu
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SUNNY trademark : SKULL helmet.




this was very late in the career..when he started using that..probably around 1980...
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RICHARDS: never used helmet in his career




To only see the likes of Thompson/Willis/Lillee charging into bowl is frightening..and scoring off them without having a helmet on..only this man can do it...with nonchalance
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RICHARDS: never used helmet in his career




no wonder he was called Master Blaster...

He had tonnes of talent along with his arrogance..with his talent if he was born in Mumbai...he would still have all the batting records...in his name
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okappudu west indies fielding, nenu 5th slip kooda chooosa.

close fielding pettestharu.

NO-BALL BOUNCER rule appudu ledu. so BOUNCERS meedha BOWncers.

I think Vengsarkar got retired hurt couple of times. oka sari 160 plus kotti retired hurt ayyadu.

SUNNY trademark : SKULL helmet.

RICHARDS: never used helmet in his career
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but intelligently due to GAVASKAR short weight also helped a quite for him.




But he was a compulsive hook shot player until late in the career...he never walked away without offering resistance..that was his greatness..and Tendya took it to the next level..which is counter attacking...
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in 1978 we had to "give up" innings as 5 batsman for retired hurt and BEDI GAVE up the INNINGS




Adi mana anna M.Holding gaari daya..he was terror..along with Colin Croft..Andy..Garner...asalu aa scenes amogham ..4 slips..2 gullies...
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Rajusk:

you can hardly see any leg cutters or out swingers from him...





variety ledu correct ee kani....indian pitches midha srinath ki vacchinani wickets at a strike rate...which is better than most of bowlers...he got close to 106 in 32 tests...i can never forget the way he bowled against SA in ahmedabad...totally ripped into them...6/21 i think
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Rajusk:




but intelligently due to GAVASKAR short weight also helped a quite for him.

GAVASKAR, VENGsarkar was the Main pair atleast which winsthanded.

SUNNY maximum centuries 13 are against west indies, double centuries too.

DID u all forget the 221 SUNNY score at PORT of spain chasing 406 on the LaST day and sunny made double century on the single day innings..and lead india victory.

another sunny innings chennai 236 not out , appatiki TV undedhi, so adhi choosa
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vammo 36/38 years ki ela vese varo ardham authondi




Nenu monna vesanu almost oka 10 overs non stop...not in match playing conditions though..can with good fitness regimen it is possible anipinchindi...I will try probably next summer...
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Malcom Marshal died 3/4 years ago.
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Malcolm Marshall reentry after a while, andaram marshall, world's fastest bowler




Evadu bowling vesthe Gavaskar(the greatest player of fast bowling) bat chethilo nunchi egiripoyindo ...vaade Marshall
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Brother nenu Malcom Marshall 1st phase career lo kooda chooooosa.

1983 series after wordcup. India ki vacchi india team ki CHUKKAL choopinchi vellaru. aa series lo ne KAPIL for 9/83 wicket haul.

marshall 2nd phase lo RUN length short chesadu (but not speed), 1st phase lo

too much run length combines with pace.

in 1978 we had to "give up" innings as 5 batsman for retired hurt and BEDI GAVE up the INNINGS
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Basky_indya:

motham pains, asalu too much ... just early and mid thirties ki ila unte,



tamudu idi common, when we used to play cricket coaches used to tell us batsman ante he should have the stamina to bat atleast 2 days..monna 45 mins batting chesesarki tala pranam toka ki vachindi
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rajusk: literally now also maa offfice campus grounds lo "cricket tournament" jaruguthunnadi.

hardly 2 overs, vese sariki Kaaali neppi, nashalaniki ekkinattu,

motham pains, asalu too much ... just early and mid thirties ki ila unte,

vammo 36/38 years ki ela vese varo ardham authondi
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Rajusk:

you can hardly see any leg cutters or out swingers from him...



Variety ledu correct ae, his stock delivery was his inswinger. The fact is variety kanna if a bowlers bowls to his field,undertands his role in the side thatz what counts in odis. Zaheer and Asish were the attacking ones while srinath bowled miserly at the other end
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Telugu_times:

Sharjah lo, oka saari srikanth Malcom Marshal ni face jesindu. first over

2nd ball six, 3rd ball four. 4th ball bowled, off wkt, wkt keeper dhaggara padindhi.




I very much remember this innings. Malcolm Marshall reentry after a while, andaram marshall, world's fastest bowler ani ooo cheppukunevallam.

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