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Alochinchu
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Mental_sachinodu:

less pay how?




BlueCross pay is different from what Aetna pays from what Cigna pays.. alage ObamaCare exchange program will have different pay and that will be 30% less than others..
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Oohlala:

they cannot deny treatment...isnt that shoving down the throat for other law abiding tax payers




only on emergencies and after care..

same law abiding tax payers money welfare laki.. disability la ki.. vaduthunte badha anipinchata ledha?
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Alochinchu:

yes.. it is your option.. who will be protecting home less people?



no, its not an option for the hospitals, they cannot deny treatment...isnt that shoving down the throat for other law abiding tax payers :-)
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Oohlala:


Separate the person from the problem ...doesnt matter who proposed it, doesnt matter if its not the right thing for us personally....feel it would still be a better scenario than what we have now




I sincerely dont think so.
Obama care is a pai pai fixing without research or understanding of the core issue, such makeups will not be better in the long haul..
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Alochinchu:

less pay



less pay how?

also, private hospitals ki patients kaadhu pay cheyaru kadha ippudu kooda? there is a middle man out there.. a big one i would say. neways business ki loss is a trivial argument in my view, whether health care is something that every citizen should have or not is the more bigger and apt argument. business ni protect seyyakarledhu.. it will always adapt.
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Oohlala:

ante makantu own thoughts/opinions vundavu ane kada mee vuddesam


Campaigning ante only offer annatlu...obligation emi ledhu....but Obama ki veyyandi
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Oohlala:

dont even go to a hospital...is than an option?




yes.. it is your option.. who will be protecting home less people?
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Mental_sachinodu:

for the larger corporations the more the merrier. simple economics.




ela avudhi.. treatment and service fee cut down avudhi.. earlier less volume high pay.. now more volume less pay.. over all ga balance avudhi.. but overheads ekkuva avuthayi..
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Alochinchu:

"others" protection kosamy mandatory.. health.. it is you body... your choice..



idi kooda others prtoection ke, my body my choice ante, dont even go to a hospital...is than an option?

Mental_sachinodu:

operational costs to cope with this. for the larger corporations the more the merrier. simple economics.



agree, all small scale industries ki konchem ekkuva effect vuntundi, but close down shut down economy will be affected is nothing but scare tactics..

Getafix:

ee argument africa,asia lo unde poor nations ki set avuthundi not developed nation like US.



why......if its a right, then it comes with a responsibility.
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Oohlala:

so hopefully this will encourage the Govt to bring down the higher education costs....




FYI.. education is the only one going 6% or more increase every year.. there is no stop to it.. enti govt. control chesedi..

annitiki govt. cheyali anukunte ela.. basic point is do not depend on govt. for your needs.. govt. nee dabbu theesukontame kaani ivvatamu undadhu (middle class and over)..

ippati varaku mana social security ki guarantee ledhu.. it is our hard earn money.. it is not tax.. they just took it saying it is security for the retirement..

medicare.. no hopess..
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//actual ga nee car ki insurance akkaraledhu but have to take liability for compensating others if it is your fault.. "others" protection kosamy mandatory.. health.. it is you body... your choice..
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but these people are using the hospitals and not paying the bills. Hospital is spreading the money and collecting from people who pay.

i am paying for myself and cost of some one else. Look at the lead plantiff , she had no insurance used hospital and then filed bankruptcy.

Do you think the hospital will jsut leave it.

In the same way why can't a woman decide if she wants to have the baby or go for a abortion?
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Gandhiguevara:

Vunte Obama ki veyya mani campaign sedhaam ani



ante makantu own thoughts/opinions vundavu ane kada mee vuddesam :-)


Mental_sachinodu:

govt should protect rights, if having a good health becomes a right of every citizen then govt should make sure everyone gets it and its protected.



very well said :-) captured the essence in one sentence


Zulu:

nuvvu jai obama na? honestly..do you think obamacare is going to do any good?



Separate the person from the problem ...doesnt matter who proposed it, doesnt matter if its not the right thing for us personally....feel it would still be a better scenario than what we have now
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Time_pass:

bathiki vunna manishi ki akkarledu kaani car and home ki teesu kovala?




actual ga nee car ki insurance akkaraledhu but have to take liability for compensating others if it is your fault.. "others" protection kosamy mandatory.. health.. it is you body... your choice..
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Getafix:

taxes/bain capital and exporting jobs lo kaadhu..




got it... andhuke ee question kooda adiga mesharu...


Conquas:

okka healthcare meedhe honest aa leka.... anni vishayallona..



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Oohlala:

I guarantee obamacare will not close private hospitals. PPO, HMO kudarnappudu atleast this would be an option anipistundi.




actually i was discussing this with few doctors, their view is that larger hospitals and doctors will make more money out of this, but the smaller hospitals and smaller clinics will have to increase their operational costs to cope with this. for the larger corporations the more the merrier. simple economics.
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If you don't have a car, why would you pay for the auto insurance
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If you are not alive no one is asking to buy Health Insurance
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http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/08/nation/la-na-healthc are-plaintiff-20120309

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/03/10/plaintiff-i n-landmark-anti-obamacare-lawsuit-bankrupted-by-medical-bill s-you-and-i-pick-up-her-tab/
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Getafix:

ee argument africa,asia lo unde poor nations ki set avuthundi not developed nation like US.




i think it needs to be left out to US citizens to decide. it doesnt matter to me. if US citizens think that their health should be a right of every citizen, then who is anyone else to not give it to them. arguments are all welcome, but people should choose what they want. to heck with principles.
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Health care law meedha suprem court lo case esina small business avida
case hearing ki vachhe lopu jabbu padi insurance lekunda hospital ki velli
bill kattakunda Bankruptcy file chesinddi

mari edi neethi nijayathi, working hard
reps cheppindhi ikkada bale nammesi malli vallistunnaru

health care needs change, it started,
is Obama Health care bill the best NO
but you need to start some where, he had to compramise on many issues to get it passed

In this law there is a rule that Insurance company can not spend more than 15% on adminstrative costs. adi pedda noppiga vundi insurance executives ki
valla jeethalu cut avuthayi , anduke ee kukka edupulu
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Mental_sachinodu:

govt should protect rights, if having a good health becomes a right of every citizen then govt should make sure everyone gets it and its protected. business ki loss, economy ki loss are all trivial arguments IMO




ee argument africa,asia lo unde poor nations ki set avuthundi not developed nation like US.

good health in this desam is responsibility.. ofcourse konni unlucky cases untar and exceptions are made to provide care to them.. but majority cases - you gotta make responsible choices to stay healthy..
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Alochinchu:

totally 400K in loans..



good point...so hopefully this will encourage the Govt to bring down the higher education costs....btw valla loans max 1-3 years lo teeripotayyi kada.

Docs want their pays, employers dont want to contribute....whats the alternative? Growing taxes or evari karma valladi antara?

Zulu:

There are powerful lobbies that keep healthcare expensive, alanti issues address cheyyakunda..



agree,doctors insurance is very expensive but when we have a right to sue everything in this country, you cant change that. Pharma companies have huge lobbies, its not easy to change that either.


Alochinchu:

private cannot compete.. will shut down slowly.. obamam care will be the only care..



panic response.....India lo kooda vundi govt hospitals, I guarantee obamacare will not close private hospitals. PPO, HMO kudarnappudu atleast this would be an option anipistundi.
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Conquas:




Romney double standards:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/us/politics/as-romney-repe ats-trade-message-bain-maintains-china-ties.html?pagewanted= all&_r=0

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As a candidate, Mr. Romney uses China as a punching bag. He accuses Beijing of unfairly subsidizing Chinese exports, artificially holding down the value of its currency to keep exports cheap, stealing American technology and hacking into corporate and government computers.

âHow is it Chinaâs been so successful in taking away our jobs?â he asked recently. âWell, let me tell you how: by cheating.â

But his private equity dealings, both while he headed Bain and since, complicate that message.

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Mr. Romney also has millions invested in a series of Bain funds that have a controlling stake in Sensata Technologies, a manufacturer of sensors and controls for vehicles, aircraft and electric motors that employs 4,000 workers in China. Since Bain took over the operation in 2006, its investment has quadrupled in value. Bain continues to own $2.6 billion worth of Sensataâs shares.
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If Auto Insdurance is compulsary, Home Insurance is compulsary then why not health?

bathiki vunna manishi ki akkarledu kaani car and home ki teesu kovala?

Romney cheppinatlu insurance lenodu velli emrgency lo treatment teesukoni bill eggotidhe vaadu repu rate lu penchi katte vaadi daggara vasoolu chestadu

anthe kaani vaadi jebu lo nunchi enduku pettu kuntadu
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Zulu:

manam kochum resonable ga matladukundam...




ledhu annai, naak eeda politix antha idea ledhu.. my story is give what people need.

govt should protect rights, if having a good health becomes a right of every citizen then govt should make sure everyone gets it and its protected. business ki loss, economy ki loss are all trivial arguments IMO
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honest ante unnadhi unnattu matladthad ani anna.. taxes/bain capital and exporting jobs lo kaadhu..
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Qdoba:

If you don't have a car, why would you pay for the auto insurance ? Btw, not all the states have mandatory purchase of full auto insurance.




Car unnodiki mandatory ye kada? AS far as I know, only Connecticut is the state where insurance is not mandatory, I could be wrong. Read my post again, it "started" out as "shoving down your throat". Later on, many companies came into the business and states made their own laws.
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Nuvvakka




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Qdoba:

Our company HR has sent out a notice to all the employees that they would have to layoff some of the employees , once Obamacare comes into effect.


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nuvvu jai obama na? honestly..do you think obamacare is going to do any good?

manam kochum resonable ga matladukundam...
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Nuvvakka Mr.Hyd ni kindal chesi ikkada naa yenaka paddavaa...uzeless
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Getafix:

romney true republican.. honest kurrod..




okka healthcare meedhe honest aa leka.... anni vishayallona..

ee kurrodu honest emiti m esharu..... Bain capital.... oka chinese company tho kalisi... ee desam security ki debbeyyataniki try chesindhi....

disappointed ya..... romney honest ante...chuss
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Qdoba:

Our company HR has sent out a notice to all the employees that they would have to layoff some of the employees , once Obamacare comes into effect.




good for them.. avasaram leni employees ni ettukotam business ki waste. they have to get rid of them.. these ppl should work where they are needed.
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Oohlala:

why do you want to know?




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There are powerful lobbies that keep healthcare expensive, alanti issues address cheyyakunda..if you pass the obamacare expensese to the businesses..they are going to cut the number of employees..which is not good for the economy.
//Obama Health care cuts costs. They are changing Medicare into a HMO type.
Idi varakati la janalu edi padithe adi cheya leru

It is cutting costs and by bringing many people into the pool will cut premiums

Insurance is a zero sum game, more people the risk averages lower
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Oohlala:

why do you want to know?


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Qdoba:

Our company HR has sent out a notice to all the employees that they would have to layoff some of the employees , once Obamacare comes into effect.



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Qdoba:

ippatiki artham kaadu eellu pro life ani yela cheppukuntaru




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Gandhiguevara:

Meeku Vote vundhaa?



why do you want to know?

Qdoba:

If someone hires you, then it is your responsibility or it is up to you if you want to purchase the healthcare or not. Why are employers being forced to sponsor healthcare for their employees ? If poor people can't afford to purchase the healthcare, then non-profit hospitals must come forward to treat them at the expense of doctor's pay cut. I've been paying health insurance for so many years, but never got a chance to go to a clinic till now.



well, in an ideal world you would think every one will have personal responsibility, but when its not the case, this is a better alternative if not perfect. Why are you complaining abt not going to a clinic, be happy :-)
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Oohlala:

but I feel like we will all need affordable healthcare.




you get health care but you won't get good care.. you know how much effort dr.s put.. 8 years of study.. 4 years residecny.. almost age 31.. totally 400K in loans.. that too after competing to get in and being smart.. if they could not make decent money for their long hard work why they chose that profession (personal interest is exception)..

antha edhuku.. for what ever reason in market.. related what ever is your work.. meeku ippudu 30% salary cut ante ela untundhi?

you should not expect affordable health care at expense of Dr. pay..
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bathi kunnodiki health care affordable cheyaru gaani
puutani embryo ki matuku rights istaranta
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Our company HR has sent out a notice to all the employees that they would have to layoff some of the employees , once Obamacare comes into effect.
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these assxoles are pre-life fetus gurinchi lectures danchamante matram sye mana mundu vunna janalaki vooru peru teliyani rogam vasthe don't worry about it.. ippatiki artham kaadu eellu pro life ani yela cheppukuntaru
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Dreamcatcher:

"Shoving down your throat" antunna vaallu eppudu auto insurance teesukoleda? Adi kooda "shoving down your throat" laaganey start ayyindi kada?


If you don't have a car, why would you pay for the auto insurance ? Btw, not all the states have mandatory purchase of full auto insurance.
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Under obamacare , patient who can afford quality treatment will get same quality treatment who cannot afford it.. just like mana desam..obamacare osthe ganaka mana rich people in india better think twice when they come to USA for better treatment..
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Zulu:

they are going to cut the number of employees



they will just have to find other jobs or start their business

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Oohlala:

whats the alternative?



The alternative is to research why healthcare is so expensive in the first place, If healthcare keeps getting expensive,making health insurance mandatory is not going to help anyone.

There are powerful lobbies that keep healthcare expensive, alanti issues address cheyyakunda..if you pass the obamacare expensese to the businesses..they are going to cut the number of employees..which is not good for the economy.
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Qdoba:

doctors take a cut in their pay




they do not have to cut the pay.. obama care makes the cut.. after a while the dr. have to see more no. of patients to get paid same .. after a while.. waiting hours will prolong.. will have reduction in doctors..

when it comes to insurance.. obamacare brings the exchange program.. one of them would govt. sponsored.. that means it will be 20 to 30% less than private.. so more people will opt for that.. companies will prefer that too to cut down the cost.. private cannot compete.. will shut down slowly.. obamam care will be the only care.. it is more onto govt. administration.. god should help people.. you will lose the quality of service big time..

any field, you get the service for the cost you pay.. it is just simple..

when it comes to employers.. company employing more than 50 have to provide health care or pay penalty.. it will get too much burden for them.. either they have rise their product prices or cut jobs..

Govt. intervening is not good.. better to be capitalism..
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Qdoba:

Hospitals emo kani small scale industries will be shutdown.



why do you think that....aren't we all prioritizing medical insurance over other things? They will too, if that means taking a small cut on smthg else, I have a hard time believing that that will bring them down. Medical insurance is a luxury annattu chestunnaru enti...shouldnt most people be happy that some kin of healthcare would be available for a lot of folks?
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"Shoving down your throat" antunna vaallu eppudu auto insurance teesukoleda? Adi kooda "shoving down your throat" laaganey start ayyindi kada?
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maa republican naani Ayn Rand bathiki unte obamacare gurinchi ila anedhi..

"Birth of Omabacare is shit away from personal responsibility and towards a view that health care is an unearned "entitlement" to be provided at others' expense".
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Oohlala:


whats the alternative? Law abiding tax payers paying more for emergency costs? healthcare is a necessity, people will be forced to look at their priorities, take healthcare rather than spend on other things. There will always be people who cant afford anything but there are lots of them who spend like crazy on luxury items but think healthcare is waste. So, if we can atleast make them take healthcare, tax payers and Govt burden will def reduce. Dont you think so? (Puting aside our personal affliations....just talking abt healthcare)


If someone hires you, then it is your responsibility or it is up to you if you want to purchase the healthcare or not. Why are employers being forced to sponsor healthcare for their employees ? If poor people can't afford to purchase the healthcare, then non-profit hospitals must come forward to treat them at the expense of doctor's pay cut. I've been paying health insurance for so many years, but never got a chance to go to a clinic till now.
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Netsaint:

like we have in india our poll issues are poverty, gareebi hatao,basic education,sanitation,girl child protection,

ikkada single agenda tho poll motham nadipinchesthara.




Ikkada kooda multiple issues untaayi...poverty/sanitation issues aa?? Basic education is not, but Hihger Education costs are a major issue all the time.
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Oohlala:

not all jobs give you medical benefits




then get a job that pays for healthcare.
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Oohlala:


Meeku Vote vundhaa?
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Saint:

seems dcotr is not all happy....



oh ya, docs are super upset...however mana s/w and their pays are hugely inflated anipistundi


Getafix:

get a job and get healthcare.



not all jobs give you medical benefits, rt, thats what they are opposinf, mandatory healthcare. So, you have to get a decent FT job, inka 20 years taruvatha, manaki kooda adi antha easy avvadu kada...
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Zulu:

what romney meant is there are emergency rooms/hospitals which are obligated to take patients in, even if they dont have insurance.




Tammi,

what you said is true for emergencies. Even in those case, ERs gives higher priority to patients with insurance over patients w/o insurance. Now, what if the patient has a disease that does not result in emergency? Like cancer, that kills patient slowly. ERs or hospitals have no obligation to treat the patient in those scenarios.


Zulu:

healthcare needs to be fixed, but obamacare is not the way.




May be you are right, obamacare may not be the exact solution, but something has to change and we need to start somewhere, at least give that credit to Obama. What Romney said in that article is already existing laws. I am not sure if Romney articulated a plan to replace Obamacare.
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Saint:

.obamacare valla next 2 years lo konni major hospitals mootha padathayi andi bay area lo...seems dcotr is not all happy....


Hospitals emo kani small scale industries will be shutdown. Silicon Valley lo enno hopes tho startup companies establish cheyyali anukunna vallaki big roadblock ee Obamacare.
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Zulu:

yes, healthcare needs to be fixed, but obamacare is not the way.



why? what are the other ways?


Qdoba:

I'm fine with Obamacare as long as doctors take a cut in their pay



ofcourse they have to, my doc friends tell me that it will impact their pay atleast by 20-30%....so I get their reluctance, but I feel like we will all need affordable healthcare.
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Oohlala:


monna recent gaa oka doctor tho mattadatha vunte...obamacare valla next 2 years lo konni major hospitals mootha padathayi andi bay area lo...seems dcotr is not all happy....
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Oohlala:

what is the republican solution for healthcare?




get a job and get healthcare.
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Netsaint:

as a senior citizen


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Oohlala:

Dont you think so?


as a senior citizen here, enni sarlu evariki vesaru meeru vote. just affiliation choodam ani.
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Qdoba:

It's like shoving down your throat to get mandatory healthcare.



whats the alternative? Law abiding tax payers paying more for emergency costs? healthcare is a necessity, people will be forced to look at their priorities, take healthcare rather than spend on other things. There will always be people who cant afford anything but there are lots of them who spend like crazy on luxury items but think healthcare is waste. So, if we can atleast make them take healthcare, tax payers and Govt burden will def reduce. Dont you think so? (Puting aside our personal affliations....just talking abt healthcare)
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I'm fine with Obamacare as long as doctors take a cut in their pay to sponsor the healthcare for people who can't afford it.
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Dreamcatcher:

will kill his own chances of winning. Ippatikey debate bounce anta gayab ayyuntadi...



just 1 doubtu, vellaki rest of all issues are solved a.

like we have in india our poll issues are poverty, gareebi hatao,basic education,sanitation,girl child protection,

ikkada single agenda tho poll motham nadipinchesthara.
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kondani thavvi eluka pattinattu undi..

what romney meant is there are emergency rooms/hospitals which are obligated to take patients in, even if they dont have insurance.

yes, healthcare needs to be fixed, but obamacare is not the way.
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Oohlala:

Healthcare is out of your reach if you dont have a proper job, it might not seem important to us now that we are young and able. However I cant help thinking that everyone will need affordable healthcare at some point in life. what is the republican solution for healthcare?


How many employers do you think would be able to afford the healthcare for their employees ? It's like shoving down your throat to get mandatory healthcare.
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Oohlala:

what is the republican solution for healthcare


nohealthcare
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Getafix:

obamacare



Healthcare is out of your reach if you dont have a proper job, it might not seem important to us now that we are young and able. However I cant help thinking that everyone will need affordable healthcare at some point in life. what is the republican solution for healthcare?
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romney true republican.. honest kurrod.. prajal kosam oka maata members ko mata cheppadu. ..as a repub he is opposite to obamacare and he said it.. aa honesty kosam ayina vote eyyalsinde.
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Dreamcatcher:



feels like he has complete disregard for that 47%...the first time could be a slip, but this seems lame
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LOL...Obama does not have to do anything, this guy will kill his own chances of winning. Ippatikey debate bounce anta gayab ayyuntadi...

http://www.newser.com/story/155660/romney-people-dont-die-at -home-because-they-lack-insurance.html

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