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Jujung
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 08:35 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I do not have a complete understanding of tax laws. But broadly, I think this is the reason for lesser tax rates on investment returns:

Nenu $1000 oka company lo invest chesanu. Company nenicchina dhani meeda $100 profit sampadinchindi.

Aa $100 lo $35 tax kattindi govt ki. Migatha $65 naaku ichindi. Govt vadu malla naakocchina dhantlo inko extra $10 tax theeskoni migatha $55 nakicchadu.

Andari lanti accounting ayithe company vadi profit $100 naku ravali, kani $55 mathrame vachayi. Ante effective tax rate is actually 45%. Ippudu okadocchi nenu 15% tax mathrame kadutunnanu ani gola cheyyatam is meaningless.
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Pete_sampras:


That is the difference between income tax which is a 1st time tax and capital gains tax which is a second tax on money that was already taxed as income the first time.

Yeah Romney is rich. So what you wish you were too. He paid 1.9 million in taxes on captial gains last year from money he had already paid even more millions of taxes on before.

That's the reason for the claim that rich people don't pay enough taxes. People don't understand that truely rich people don't make first time earned income. They don't get bi-weekly paychecks like everybody else because they don't have the same kind of jobs everyone else has. They put their already taxed money to work to make more and it gets taxed again at a lesser amount.


Mitt Romney is 65 years old.... That's a retirement age. A 65 year old guy who doesn't have a regular paycheck job just paid 1.9 million dollars in secondary taxes. Get over it.
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 05:10 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Obama's new taxes to hit Jan 1 2013

http://jeffduncan.house.gov/full-list-obamacare-tax-hikes

http://thedcpost.com/?p=20174

Good luck Obama fans...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWeUqWqgZKc

Ann Romney in Iowa
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Newguy123:

daantlo 90% church ke potundi.


dude what's so wrong about donating 30% of his income to charity??? The Mormon community helps people with so many charities whenever there is a crisis.... After Katrina incident mormon groups came from all over the country to help clean up the mess in New Orleans......Do you expect to seek any help from Obama's community people ???? I know many of my Mormon colleagues who help their neighbors in cutting down the trees and helping people in moving their stuff...


I want to see bama's college records & birth certificate ?? Before you talk about Romney's tax records, show them first.
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 02:35 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nobody cares how much he pays, it is the institutional advantage these people get from the system, and these same people are against anyone who look to the govt for things like food and medicine.

If they are successful its totally their "hard work "and if the fail The govt "failed" them. :-)
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Newguy123:

Tax wages meeda nena?.. Tax income meeda.. evidhamga vachina tax kattali..




investments meeda 15% as they are dividends, not stable, risky etc etc. its for every tom dick and harry.
investments meeda kuda wages laga taxes vunte evadu aiyan enduku invest chestadu? growth etta vuntadi... there is equal chances of investments going downwards right voste 30% kattali ante poyinappudu?

wages meeda vary avtundi..

investments lo Millions M aiyte uncle obama vochi help cheyadu kada...

aiyna investment cheyataniki vochina millions meeda already wages taxes cut vocharu...
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Abcdefghij:

wages leni people in USA does not even pay taxes....he is paying 14%




Tax wages meeda nena?.. Tax income meeda.. evidhamga vachina tax kattali..
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Newguy123:

other income 450K vundiga..deductions motham amount meeda ..




ee mukka romney 14% ee pay chestunnadu annapudu cheppali...

asalu romney ki wages ee levu ga mari

wages leni people in USA does not even pay taxes....he is paying 14%


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Abcdefghij:

394K wages lo 300K exemptions
ee equation prakaram obama takes 75% deductions to avoid tax rate entha correct oo mitt is paying less antha correct...




other income 450K vundiga..deductions motham amount meeda ..
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Newguy123:

daantlo 90% church ke potundi..




10% of income by default goes to church...

rest charity anukonta..
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Abcdefghij:

he gave 4M in charity....




daantlo 90% church ke potundi..
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Newguy123:




mana obama garu 19%

394K wages lo 300K exemptions
ee equation prakaram obama takes 75% deductions to avoid tax rate entha correct oo mitt is paying less antha correct...

obama as president only pays 180K as taxes but mittromney pays 2M as taxes with wages as zero...siggu vundali inka pay cheyali cheyali antunna dems ni



Income
Wages: $394,821
Other income: $449,764
Adjusted gross income (AGI): $789,674 (Obama's adjusted gross income was reduced $54,911 by adjustments that partially offset wages and other income)
Minus exemptions, deductions: $293,298
Equals taxable income: $496,376
Taxes paid
Income taxes (19.02% of AGI): $150,253
Payroll tax (4.35% of AGI; Payroll tax includes employee and employer share): $34,378
Tax rate (19.02% + 4.35%): 23.37%.
Federal tax paid: $184,631
After-tax income: $605,043
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Pete_sampras:

14.1 % aa?? too bad yaa..



why

his income was mainly from investments...everyone in US pays the same on investments he paid almost 2M in taxes on investments whats wrong....

US ni Russia cheddam anni decide chesinatu vunnaru 2M taxes kadtunnada takkuva takkuva antu..

leda andaru wages tesukovali anni decide chessara

he gave 4M in charity....

hypocrisy vundakudadu...

obama wants to help poor but cannot help his own half brother who is poor...
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Qdoba:

mee Bob ni adigara eppudaina why he is paying taxes for only 35 crores of income , when he has huge assets in Singapore & US worth more than 100 crores ?




foriegn accounts lo Romney ki entha vundo evadiki telusu.. ikkada matladedi chupinchina amount ki entha tax ani..
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Newguy123:


mee Bob ni adigara eppudaina why he is paying taxes for only 35 crores of income , when he has huge assets in Singapore & US worth more than 100 crores ?
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Gotcha:

percentage chuste takkuve untundi, amount chudali




1.9 million kattadu..


Gotcha:

u will understand the logic in tax laws.




logic emi ledu.. vaadi income antha interest meeda vachindi and capital gains.. daani meeda tax takkuva.. aa paina inka chala tax breaks..

75K vaadiki 150K vaadi tax % chuste tax percentage,amount rendu ekkuve vuntayi..
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percentage chuste takkuve untundi, amount chudali. ide db lo oka thread untundi why rich people need to pay less tax anioka bar meeda analogy adi chadivite u will understand the logic in tax laws.
This real estate is for sale.
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14.1 % aa?? too bad yaa...Ekkado sadiva...if he hadn't got the tax breaks he would have had to pay $13Million instead of $7+ Million he had paid...so technically he is also part of 47%...
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14.1% only :D

http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/21/pf/taxes/romney-tax-return/i ndex.html?hpt=hp_t1

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