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DB lo BP perigipothundhi ani monna evaro maatladathunte....chebithe emo anukunna


ivaala experienced aa? did u see a doc?
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DB lo BP perigipothundhi ani monna evaro maatladathunte....chebithe emo anukunna


ivaala experience aa?
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From the very article

"Loosening up FDI in this sector or that will also contribute to such efficiencies, but they are simply not game-changers."

FDI in retail ni support chestoooo - the article is asking for big ticket reforms like rasing the prices and removing subsidies totally.....
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mallle topics ki sambandham leni articles......

This govt is doing a fantastic job ani evvadu antam ledhu....this govt is pushing a lot of reforsm ani assalu antam ledhu...

FDI in retail is a good policy antunnam - and the article is saying -
okka chettu kooda (big reforms) leni chota.. avadham mokka (FDI in retail)unte adhe goppa....

DB lo BP perigipothundhi ani monna evaro maatladathunte....chebithe emo anukunna
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Dada, Python goru ..

http://www.firstpost.com/economy/if-these-are-economic-refor ms-im-amitabh-bachchan-463613.html


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naaku hatred ante



Dada:

What was the need for the clarification - if the same guy had interviewed?


exactly .. cheptunna kada .. interview chesina vaadu .. antha long answer ni edit chesi .. short ga cheppanu annadu .. when it became a controversy .. he published the whole answer .. and still you suspect and shoot Modi .. hatred kakapothe enti?
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mari original interview lo endhuku alaaa vacchindhi - if the same guy had interviewed your CM?


bcoz .. the original interview was an "excerpt" of the total conversation he had with Modi ..


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Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s remarks about malnutrition in a Wall Street Journal interview have sparked controversy in India. In the interview, Mr. Modi said Gujarat’s economic advances can be a model for the nation, discussed whether he has prime ministerial ambitions and explained his reasons for not apologizing for the 2002 communal riots in his state. Below is Mr. Modi’s full, extended answer to a question about the state’s malnutrition challenges. It is translated from Hindi.



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What was the need for the clarification - if the same guy had interviewed?

naaku hatred ante - let me remind you - I preached in early 2000s that the govt of that day is doinga good job in opening up the Insurance sector.

The only time I rabidly supported a political party was in 2008-2010.

Policies ni choodu thammudu - parties ni kaadhu -
pulihora lo puli undaadhu kaabatti perugannam lo perugu ledhu ani vaadhinchadam kaadhu
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Dada:

Shall we believe this?


you quoted an article that quotes WSJ .. I gave you the total link to the WSJ interview uploaded by the "same journo who interviewed Modi" .. and you say it is equalent to Wiki? LOL man .. your bias is evident .. hahaha ..
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mari original interview lo endhuku alaaa vacchindhi - if the same guy had interviewed your CM?

I do not want to get into this nonsense - politicians wife tho oka maata chebuthaaru - keep tho inko mata chebuthaaru -

The point is - Just because party X is passing a good policy, some people like you are opposing. If Party Y passes it, and if you owe alleigance to party Y, then you would support the same policy.

While supporting the FDI in Retail - nenu chaala saarlu - I denounced the Congress party and it 's other policies - in this and other threads.
There ends the matter.
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APPC chief medha Wiki lo raasi undhi
"Botsa Satyanarayana is seen as the champion of Social justice in Andhra Pradesh and is a darling of the masses in the North coastal districts."

Shall we believe this?
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Dada:

blogs ni memu kooda pettaam



dont be ignorant .. after the controversy arose .. WSJ journo who interviewed Modi, uploaded that on WSJ site (which includes this blog) .. u quote WSJ interview .. and then when I give u the actual link to read .. u say its a blog ..

I find that you are blinded by hate...
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blogs ni memu kooda pettaam - Pawan kalyan is Cheguevara ani raasesaanu - avaasam lo :-)

Blogs - Wiki - ivaa source...anyone can write anything.

Neena Vyas is a journalist - She has quouted Modi. If she has said something wrong - sue her. Or challenge her.Proove her wrong.
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Not to be left behind in absurdity, Modi defended his government on hunger statistics in Gujarat in an interview to Wall Street Journal. Modi blamed it on vegetarianism and on the fact that Gujarat was a �middle-class state� and its women were �more beauty conscious than health conscious.� As if that was not ridiculous enough, he rubbed in the point: �If a mother tells her daughter to drink milk, they will have a fight. She will tell her mother �I won�t drink milk, I�ll get fat.�Never mind the facts underlined by National Sample Surveys, Planning Commission�s Human Development Report 2011 and a study done by the National Council for Applied Economic Research. The 61st NSS estimated 44.6 per cent children in Gujarat were malnourished and 69 per cent in the 0 to 5 years age group anaemic�



Propaganda of lies due to agenda ..

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012/08/30/everything-mod i-said-on-malnutrition/

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-09-18/news /33926147_1_gujarat-today-minister-narendra-modi-panchayats
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LIES..abaddhaaalu antunnavu kadha...

Who is saying no to DOTCOMS in India - SWADESHI ani egire political parties like CPI / CPM / BJP
- Will they allow 100% manufactured goods which are non edible, whcih are not luxury goods,to be imported by an individual as part of a commercial transaction that happenned in India without any value addition in India?

Kushi gurthukuvasthundhi....
KINDA PADDA SARE...enti.....KINDA PADDA SARE....uuuuu....
AMMAYI sir..... After all Ammaayi Sir.....
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asalu emaina sambandham undhaa aaa article ki - FDI in retail ki - and the foolishness of our politicians....
The article says - In india - it is not ideas but access to capital which is making a successfull dotcom. Maybe true - Flipkart had good money - and was a success - but redbus.in did not have any money and still is a success

excerts from the article on which this thread is based on....

- Earlier this month, speaking at Kolkata’s Writer’s Building Banerjee blamed dieting to lose weight for people falling prey to dengue. “I appeal to you, my young friends, not to go on diet...because when you do, your immunity system goes down and you may be struck by diseases like dengue.” The people were at fault for going down with dengue. Not the fault of the government or the civic authorities for not checking spread of the deadly mosquitoes.
Not to be left behind in absurdity, Modi defended his government on hunger statistics in Gujarat in an interview to Wall Street Journal. Modi blamed it on vegetarianism and on the fact that Gujarat was a â€middle-class state’ and its women were “more beauty conscious than health conscious.” As if that was not ridiculous enough, he rubbed in the point: “If a mother tells her daughter to drink milk, they will have a fight. She will tell her mother â€I won’t drink milk, I’ll get fat.’Never mind the facts underlined by National Sample Surveys, Planning Commission’s Human Development Report 2011 and a study done by the National Council for Applied Economic Research. The 61st NSS estimated 44.6 per cent children in Gujarat were malnourished and 69 per cent in the 0 to 5 years age group anaemic”
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http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2012/09/hunting_for_elephants_in_ind ia.html?cm_mmc=SocialHub-_-3271-_--_-8974712081296041933

Idii e-commerce situation in India .. ilanti situation lo India lo invest chestaam ra babu antunna vaallani .. chi po antaru .. kaani FDI in retail ki vacheppatiki matram .. they say .. we need foreign investments .. or else our growth slows down (as though it hasnt now) .. our ratings will be downgraded (as though it hasnt already been) .. our interest payments will go up (as though falling rupee did not make the same) .. our fiscal deficit will grow enormously (it did the same anyways) ..

weird are the ways of some govts and their supporters ..
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make-break rules .. as they wish




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hence a separate regulation will be brought out for e-commerce firms ani antunnaru.


ok fine .. as they want it me-lord .. make-break rules .. as they wish ..
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And e-Commerce across the border transactions should be scrutinised.
Why should we import 100% finished goods (non luxury) on a large scale and sell them in India?
Today the law says - we can import semi finished goods and raw materials - but not completely finished goods (except in certain categories where there si a lot of customs tax i.e.luxury goods OR for food distribution - in whcih case the Govt takes possesion of these goods i.e. edible oil )

but naaku oka CD player kaavali - and instead of buying it from India - I will buy it from an eCommerce site in europe which will ship this product (kone vaadu - if he is awilling to pay the extra shipping costs) ante - it is against the law - since the CD player needs to be manufactured or assembled in India - or imported by the person himself as a non commercial transaction and the customs duty has to be paid.

In whcih category do eCommerce transactions come? hence the delay.
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e-commerce ki special scrutiny ..




Special scrutiny evaru chesaaru?
100 Mil USD petti - Which eCommerce firm will enter the market???

hence a separate regulation will be brought out for e-commerce firms ani antunnaru.
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http://www.niticentral.com/2012/09/ecommerce-in-india.html
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tell me one policy of this govt that u dont support




Rupayi Kilo biyyam
Arogya sree
MNREGA

and maybe a lot more - depending on what those policies are
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http://dailypioneer.com/home/online-channel/top-story/95977- us-eyes-infrastructure-spending-in-india-emerging-economies. html
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Dada:

But common sense says that a eCommerce firm will never do all these.


Walmart and other notorious retail chains ki common sense and past history choosedi ledu .. but e-commerce ki special scrutiny .. common sense .. bongu boshanam ..

tell me one policy of this govt that u dont support? just want to see if at all you differ from their spokespersons anywhere ..
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Tilak:

they will be investing all the backend infra ..




What is this back end infra?
Does amazon need to set up warehouses? Will they need to tie up with farmers? What for? Do they need huge fleet of refrigerated trucks?

Walmart on the other hand - has to set up warehouses in the rural areas - near the farms - they have to maintain the warehouses - cold storages - and they have to invest in transportation to transport the goods to the stores which are in cities. And Invest in stores and IT services to carry out the entire operations.
And to make this work - enter into long term contracts with the small farmers and cooperatives.
AND because of this investments - which would benefit the economy in the long run - this decision was taken.

e-commerce site ki - except for IT infrastructure - Is anything extra needed.

Reg. amazon - also - no one is opposing - just that right now we do not have laws in place to take care of the below given transaction
- If you as a customer order something over Amazon (despite the shipping cost involved), if amazon decides to ship these retail products for your order from country X , then how do we treat it - since it is not a non commercial shipment - it is not an industrial / production / agricultural shipment.

If amazon wants to set up thier own warehouses in India and procure a min of 30% of the goods from the local manufacturers, set up atleast one retail shop - investing a minimum of 100 Mill USD - then no one is stopping them.

But common sense says that a eCommerce firm will never do all these.

So once the necessary rules are formulated, then maybe the requisite rules will be passed - whoever is in power at that point of time - But then ecommerce just deos not require massive investments - anyonce can start an eCommerce site - redbus is a classic case of eCommerce .
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do u understand the issues of a poor farmer or a small trader .. NO .. and u blame "them" for their situation and also the ills of the country .. while they dont enjoy the power like u do ..




i do understand the issues of poor farmer .. my native place the biggest revenue generate is agriculture ... manam emi seyyam ... edutodu edagakudadhu ane mentality .. kothemi kadhu ...

naaku power emundi bongu .. em mattadutunnav .. iam just a customer ...
raithu anna peru tho .. nana gandaragolam seyyagalru ... national highways meeda baitayimpu putuvas pettalna?? naa personal cameras tho tisinavi .. poor passer-bys ni sava gotti .. seuvulu moosi mari .. highways blocking ... ku'mooskuni morning to evening on the road nenu ..naaku power enti
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We will support UPA government to keep communal forces away: Mulayam Singh Yadav



we know that .. we dont expect Mullayam saab to be sane anyways ..
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ee mathram upgrade aina .. all these pedha raithulu .. should become more organized .. have a representation to govt .. avail loans .. create their own supply chains to these MNCs and make money and move away from poverty ..

ala cheyyaru .. emi cheyakunda .. maaku anyayam jargindhi .. meeru bagupadakudadhu .. maatho paatu matti lo dorlandi antaru ..



wat a talk away from reality .. do u understand the issues of a poor farmer or a small trader .. NO .. and u blame "them" for their situation and also the ills of the country .. while they dont enjoy the power like u do ..
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One point i don't understand is why we have this fear that international companies will gobble up our small traders.



Bcoz studies say .. they did so in almost every country they entered ..

just last week .. NY said no to Walmart .. saying it creates only 2 jobs to every 3 jobs it takes away ..

poni .. study something closer .. in Thailand .. all the local mom&pops are about to be out of the scene now ..
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Whereas - allowing these same MNCs to sell thier goods over Internet - ki vacchetappaki - they should first set up the infrastructure in terms of warehouses, supply chain investments etc - and start sourcing the goods from the local manufacturers and farmers. Once all this is in place and working -vthen definietly - they can be allowed to sell the same good via the Internet.



See .. as you say .. the govt already has a mechanism to check this for foreign retail corps .. right? so what is the problem to also check e-commerce companies against the same rules???

Amazon clearly says .. they will be investing all the backend infra .. they will comply to all the govt laid rules .. and yet the govt says .. no .. not now ..!!!

Dada:

but first - let the real thing - i.e. infra lo investments start - if at all they want to invest in india after seeing all this hype over nothing.


Amazon is lying antunnava? or Amazon does not have the capacity to invest in India .. whats ur/govts suspicion against them? when they are saying .. we will do business according to ur rules?

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there might be some cross-border transactions but all of them had to pay heavy price for shipping from the cross the border, the levies and taxes for ferrying goods across the border .. there is a diff from how it is done to what amazon is asking right??


nope .. there is no diff .. Amazon is asking .. just treat us like everyone else .. if there are taxes to be paid .. they will .. why do u think they wont? and if paying taxes isnt feasible .. they will set a warehouse in India ..

my point is simple .. FDI in retail emo .. govt ki urgent ga dabbulu avasaram ani clear chesesaaru .. FDI in e-commerce emo .. no no .. not now antunnaru .. while both are exactly similar .. and that lack of transparency in decision making .. raises doubts against the intention of the govt ..
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why do the small traders not object when a Big Bazaar, Reliance etc gets into retail.




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besides inviting FDI etc., the govt should ban these old and irrelevant outfits like CPI/CPM .. inka patha kalam paddatulani pedala meeda ruddutaru ...

ee mathram upgrade aina .. all these pedha raithulu .. should become more organized .. have a representation to govt .. avail loans .. create their own supply chains to these MNCs and make money and move away from poverty ..

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you almost support every move of the govt at every dubious instance



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we have cross border transactions since many years .. whats new now?




Tilagam .. sites like DinoDirect etc., can sell their products here, may be .. but we never let these MNT retailers on the net to set their go-downs here and do local procurement .. that is the difference ...

there might be some cross-border transactions but all of them had to pay heavy price for shipping from the cross the border, the levies and taxes for ferrying goods across the border .. there is a diff from how it is done to what amazon is asking right??
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time ante - mee BJP power loki vaachaaka???

As it is - late ayyindhi - so better late than never.

Whereas - allowing these same MNCs to sell thier goods over Internet - ki vacchetappaki - they should first set up the infrastructure in terms of warehouses, supply chain investments etc - and start sourcing the goods from the local manufacturers and farmers. Once all this is in place and working -vthen definietly - they can be allowed to sell the same good via the Internet.

but first - let the real thing - i.e. infra lo investments start - if at all they want to invest in india after seeing all this hype over nothing.
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One point i don't understand is why we have this fear that international companies will gobble up our small traders. Take the case of Singapore where i go every month. I used to visit a Carrefour to buy some stuff. Last week i went there, they were closing down Carrefour in SG (they have two branches). They are finding it difficult to compete against the local Fairprice (govt. run shops) and 7-11s. Across Asia too i have not seen many big cases of foreign retailers overrunning smaller local ones. Each will have their place. I go to a Spar or Hypercity to buy some fancier stuf - like say a Blueberry jam or a Nutella Hazelnut spread. Maa local Mallu joint does not provide that choice. I get great prices on stuff like diapers which my local guy does not provide. Why do you want me to pay more as a consumer?

Even our traders will survive as long as they provide good customer service, good display, wide range of products etc etc. I still buy by vegetables from a Hopcoms because it is only 100 yards from my house while Reliance Fresh is around 400 yards away. But they have to become more price competitive. Currently their main value proposition is proximity to the consumers. If they can start competing on price, nothing like it.

Another question i had is that why do the small traders not object when a Big Bazaar, Reliance etc gets into retail. Are they not going to hurt small traders, or is it the community brotherhood that prevents them from doing so (Banias, Marwararis).
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instead we are saying - please set up your infrastructure and stores here - and reg. your selling on the Internet - we shall take a decision in the future - once the market becomes big.


u remember the argument in the case of FDI in retail ..

u said .. the country needs "investments" now .. or else we will be dead with the fiscal deficit issue .. didnt u??? can they say .. we will wait for 2 more years to open FDI in retail .. so that corp retail market becomes big???
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2% of their customer base will go away .. as you only said .. people with > 10L earning are only 2% ... that the unorganized retailer is bound to loose for not offering any quality standards, no transparency, refusing to give bills, not paying taxes etc., he does not deserve to cater to creamy customers ... rest of the customers will still be with him that is 98% .. he should be happy with it ...



I am asking you .. why is not the govt telling the same thing ..

Dada:

But - when are you are so rabidly oppossed to MNC retailers entering India, why are you supporting these MNC retailers to sell thier goods over the Internet?


I am trying to show how they have two different policies for two issues .. over FDI in retail .. they want it .. so that India gets some foreign investments .. while in e-commerce .. Amazon has been waiting for more than an year now .. and yet the govt says we need more time??? and says there will be issues with cross-border transactions?? comeon .. we have cross border transactions since many years .. whats new now?

Dada:

And if they do not enter India and have stores - how can they sell thier good in India via the Internet? Even if they ship from thier warehouses in Europe / US to India (if anyone buys payign the shipping charges) - is this not a loss to the country?


lol .. and what happened to ur logic of feasibility of business here? will it be feasible for them to do business without having a warehouse in India (btw .. Amazon even said they will have warehouses in India as they want it to be the hub of their South Asia operations) ..

you almost support every move of the govt at every dubious instance .. and yet have the guts to ask people to raise above politics .. LOL
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bunkum is this .. what are those several issues? we already have many cross-border transactions .. what are the new issues .. dont they have the responsibility to be transparent in policy making?




You fight for allowing the MNC retail players to also sell thier goods via the Internet - who is stopping it?
If it your demand- please state it.
Ofcourse - the govt is saying - we need more time to take this decision - we need to study this issue in more depth.
so it is your choice - if you want to waity till the "study" is over and start demanding it from now itself.

But - when are you are so rabidly oppossed to MNC retailers entering India, why are you supporting these MNC retailers to sell thier goods over the Internet?

And if they do not enter India and have stores - how can they sell thier good in India via the Internet? Even if they ship from thier warehouses in Europe / US to India (if anyone buys payign the shipping charges) - is this not a loss to the country?

instead we are saying - please set up your infrastructure and stores here - and reg. your selling on the Internet - we shall take a decision in the future - once the market becomes big.
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the unorg retail will lose a "wealthy section of customers" and their business .. but will retain their customer base???




2% of their customer base will go away .. as you only said .. people with > 10L earning are only 2% ... that the unorganized retailer is bound to loose for not offering any quality standards, no transparency, refusing to give bills, not paying taxes etc., he does not deserve to cater to creamy customers ... rest of the customers will still be with him that is 98% .. he should be happy with it ...
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so unorg retailers will lose their creamy customers which they deserve to for not paying taxes ... but still their customer base is more or less intact ...


contradiction in ur argument is .. the unorg retail will lose a "wealthy section of customers" and their business .. but will retain their customer base??? why did not the govt tell this to the people exactly? why are they saying that .. no no .. FDI in retail will only add jobs .. but not take away any .. all the market of unorg Retail will be undisturbed .. ??? are they outrightly lying?
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Allowing e-commerce would have raised several issues related to cross-border transactions, said Arpita Mukherjee, professor, Indian Council for Research on International Economic Relations.


What bunkum is this .. what are those several issues? we already have many cross-border transactions .. what are the new issues .. dont they have the responsibility to be transparent in policy making?
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correct .. so whats the point of urs .. how will FDI in retail help fix the issue of tax evasion by unorg retail?




unorg retail will be relegated to cater to lower and lower middle class poeple .. which as per you are 98% in the country ... rest of the people will NO DOUBT migrate to MNC retailers ... but these are the people who spend majority of the money and the MNCs have no go but pay tax and help govt ...

so unorg retailers will lose their creamy customers which they deserve to for not paying taxes ... but still their customer base is more or less intact ...
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Buddhi gaa bhakthi tho - neethi gaa unte - automatic gaa taxes pay chesthaaru..



corp retail kadutundi .. fine .. but how will it solve the prob of 94% market share unna unorg retail??? adi naa question ..

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aina ee small traders andharu oka party supporters kadha


LOL .. TN lo Chettiars/Nadars .. AP lo Komatlu .. evariki votes vestaro cheppu .. alage .. inka ye ye small traders unnaru communities lo??? vaallu evariki votes vestaru .. homogenous ga vestara?
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The government on Thursday decided not to allow companies with foreign direct investment (FDI) to sell their products through the Internet in India.
Allowing e-commerce would have raised several issues related to cross-border transactions, said Arpita Mukherjee, professor, Indian Council for Research on International Economic Relations.

“Once there is more regulation and structure to this format...they will wait and see the implications before opening up this space,” she said.

An executive at a PE firm said that even if the government had allowed FDI in e-commerce, the investment barrier of at least $100 million (around Rs.540 crore) would have been too high for most firms.

“I expect big players like Amazon to wait till the market grows to a bigger size before they enter India either through an acquisition of an existing player or from scratch,” added this person, who didn’t want to be identified.
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how will FDI in retail help fix the issue of tax evasion by unorg retail?




Buddhi gaa bhakthi tho - neethi gaa unte - automatic gaa taxes pay chesthaaru..
aina ee small traders andharu oka party supporters kadha - why cannot that party make these traders pay the taxes
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e-commerce venture ki FDI kaavala???



oh retail ki matrame kaavala? e-commerce lo invest cheyyadaaniki .. Amazon is waiting .. vaalla dabbula valla mana "fiscal deficit" (remember one of ur prev arguments) problem nunchi help avutundi gaa? mari why did they say NO to it yesterday?
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ALL I SAID WAS - unorganised retail stores do not pay taxes - Organised retails stores pay taxes.
It means - kirana shops taxes kattaru - peddha retail chains (organised sector) taxes kadathaaru.



correct .. so whats the point of urs .. how will FDI in retail help fix the issue of tax evasion by unorg retail?
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Tilak:

FDI in e-commerce




e-commerce venture ki FDI kaavala???


You can still purchase from eBay, amazon, homeshop18, shopperstop, flipkart, cleartrip,bookmyshow etc etc in India
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eedu aadu medha ekkuthaadu - aadu eedi kosam onguntaadu ani nenu analedhu -




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retail will replace onorg retail? That means the govt is lying abt it???




nenu ekkada - ee sentence raasono choopinchu...
ALL I SAID WAS - unorganised retail stores do not pay taxes - Organised retails stores pay taxes.
It means - kirana shops taxes kattaru - peddha retail chains (organised sector) taxes kadathaaru.

eedu aadu medha ekkuthaadu - aadu eedi kosam onguntaadu ani nenu analedhu -
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Dada:

SMEs ki support ledhu antaaru - What is this policy saying - Atleast 30% of the good should be procured from SMEs.


30% is nothing .. it is peanuts .. it should have been 70% ..
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Dada:

Forget the political parties - why cannot we rise above these stupid politics and support a policy whcih we can turn into an opportunity adn move ahead.



Its a policy that will impact more than 20 crore people directly .. it cant be pushed from inside the dark .. why so clandestinely .. if u think this govt needs FDI .. why did it reject FDI in e-commerce just yesterday? What is the sin of Amazon .. w.r.t Walmart??? Amazon also pays taxes .. they also invest in IT .. they also have gr8 logistics .. then y were they kept away from entering India .. ??? Why is the policy not transparent? Why favor some companies and why loss others?
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And most important - the unorganised retail dealer do not pay taxes at all - all of the transactions are black - there are no reciepts goven - no VAT amount mentioned.
Not the case in organised retail - where every transaction is accounted for.



Till now the govt was saying .. nothing is going to happen to the unorg retail dealer ..

now u say .. they dont pay taxes .. they are frauds etc .. and say org retail is paying taxes .. wat r u trying to suggest .. corp retail will replace onorg retail? That means the govt is lying abt it???
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sorry we dont know how 3G works .. go check the web site and look at the demo ... we cant help in setting up your computer .. is what people told when 3G was released ...







Python:

still i hate BSNL as the people there refuse to upgrade their skills




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"Besides, at least 30 per cent of the manufactured products procured should be from small industries with a total investment in plant and machinery not exceeding $1 million"

SMEs ki support ledhu antaaru - What is this policy saying - Atleast 30% of the good should be procured from SMEs.
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Dada:

Forget the political parties - why cannot we rise above these stupid politics and support a policy whcih we can turn into an opportunity adn move ahead.



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Dada:

What about common man - to get a phone line in the 80s and 90s - we had to pay a bribe. And now????




yeah ... now getting a phone line is a cake walk ... just drop an application with fee ... but still i hate BSNL as the people there refuse to upgrade their skills .. sorry we dont know how 3G works .. go check the web site and look at the demo ... we cant help in setting up your computer .. is what people told when 3G was released ...
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And most important - the unorganised retail dealer do not pay taxes at all - all of the transactions are black - there are no reciepts goven - no VAT amount mentioned.
Not the case in organised retail - where every transaction is accounted for.

Forget the political parties - why cannot we rise above these stupid politics and support a policy whcih we can turn into an opportunity adn move ahead.
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yes - I know an employee in LIC who thought that the company would die and took VRS in 2002 and joined Satyam as a domain expert. And within 2 years he regretted his decision.
LIC has become a much better company after liberalisation.and today is actually giving the private players a run for thier money.

What about common man - to get a phone line in the 80s and 90s - we had to pay a bribe. And now????
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The salient features of the policy are:
Min amount to be brought in as FDI by the foreign investor should be $100 million
At least 50 per cent of total FDI should be invested in back end infrastructure within three years
Retail outlets should be set up only in cities with a population of over 10 lakh
Back end infrastructure includes investment made for processing, manufacturing, distribution, design improvement, quality control, packaging, logistics, storage, ware-house and does not include rentals and value of land.

Forget politicians - they are shameless. Some people are opposing this!!!
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The Vajpayee government went ahead with FDI in the insurance sector after his party had opposed precisely that move by the previous Narasimha Rao government. Vajpayee faced strong opposition from forces within the Sangh Parivar, the Swadeshi Jagran Manch.

The then BJP president Kushabhau Thakre was also a staunch opponent. Nevertheless the policy change did not bankrupt the Life Insurance Corporation and other nationalised insurance companies although dire warnings were given that they would be hit hard.




ee time lo insurance sector vallu gaggolu pettaru .. strikes chesaru .. mee saavu meeru savandi annaru ... what happened now?? now LIC has become more competent .... Malls lo ads ... managers ki targets .. outsourcing of rural areas etc., to agencies .. iraga kummutunnaru biz ...
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One policy - where it is left to the State govts to decided whether they want to implement it or not.....and yet so much noise over this - and in effect this ia just a policy - which can eba good opportunity if utilised properly.
The way we have utilised the policies framed after 1991 as opportunities.
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Domestic politics has increasingly become cantankerous and meaningless: it is funny when it should be dead serious; it is very real, but seems unreal; and it insults our intelligence.

Nearly two decades ago Harold Pinter wrote: “Rationality went down the drain donkey’s years ago and hasn’t been seen since.” This certainly rings true in the realm of public discourse in India.

Take the current hysteria after the government gave the green signal on Foreign Direct Investment in multi-brand retail. Mamata Banerjee in West Bengal may be right in opposing it, but surely, Maharashtra and Haryana chief ministers are equally within their right to have a different opinion.

Since the policy gives each state government the option to allow or disallow it in their state, where is the difficulty?

The Vajpayee government went ahead with FDI in the insurance sector after his party had opposed precisely that move by the previous Narasimha Rao government. Vajpayee faced strong opposition from forces within the Sangh Parivar, the Swadeshi Jagran Manch.

The then BJP president Kushabhau Thakre was also a staunch opponent. Nevertheless the policy change did not bankrupt the Life Insurance Corporation and other nationalised insurance companies although dire warnings were given that they would be hit hard.

When the country entered the World Trade Organisation during the Rao regime, the Left and the BJP had opposed the move. Yashwant Sinha, who later became finance minister in the Vajpayee-led government promised a BJP walkout of the world body if it came to power. Of course it did not when it came to power. Would any party today from the Right or the Left want India to leave the WTO?

Read on......
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