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Hello ikkada maa own allies evaru ?




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Hello ikkada maa own allies evaru ?

By opposition I mean all parties opposing this.

I dont talk party wise. I talked issue wise.
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Idekkada chepparu.




mee own allies(trinamool nd SP) ne convince cheyyakunda.... why are you blaming opposition parties...

not only oppossition parties.... UPA ki supposrt chese parties are also against to it:

Trinamool opposiing the decision:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/upa-plays-big-bang-reform-card-tm c-oppn-fume/291520-37-64.html

SP is also against to FDI

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sp-wont-allow-implementation-of-f di-in-retail-in-up/291783-37-64.html

BJP parliament lo discussions gurinchi:

Reminding the government that it had assured both Houses of Parliament that a decision on this issue will be taken only after wide consultations...

http://www.asianage.com/india/parties-unite-slam-retail-fdi- 062

congress minister is about FDI decission:

minister said the decision was first taken last November but subsequently held back following opposition mainly from the Left, BJP and the Trinamool.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Govt-pushe s-for-reforms-angers-allies-on--51-FDI/Article1-930269.aspx
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parliament lo disco cheddham ane kadha... you have to convince them too right?

you can't take that decision alone ane kadha valla point...nothing wrong in it...




Idekkada chepparu. Opposition parties are outright opposing FDI in retail saying India is not ready.

They did not offer the compromise you are offering, allow less than 50% first, and then increase gradually.
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china ala kaadhu ani... they will dictate the terms.... In India... I don't think so...




In India Reliances, Birlas, and Tatas are as strong as Walmart.

Indian companies actually have more experience in our market, just like the local players in China.

If not China, you have Thailand, Brazil or Indonesia. Better comparisons than the US.
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Anyway the power is still with the state Govts to allow it or not. Why the fuss then?




opposition parties adigedhi.... parliament lo disco cheddham ane kadha... you have to convince them too right?

you can't take that decision alone ane kadha valla point...nothing wrong in it...
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After bhopal thousands of foreign companies invested in India. Are they operating any worse than Indian companies?




you got me wrong...

na point... india other countries pressure ki easy ga influence avuthundhi ani...

china ala kaadhu ani... they will dictate the terms.... In India... I don't think so...
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manam oka point accept cheyyali.... he is doing better than our so called central minsters....




I am not judging Modi here. See the hypocrisy of BJP and its supporters.

Modi 6 months ki okasari foreign trip vesi, anni companies ni vachi invest cheyandi ante aaha oho naa.

Anyway the power is still with the state Govts to allow it or not. Why the fuss then?
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Anyway we had enough disc on this. China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brazil, Thailand - Every developing economy other than India had FDI in retail for years. No where did local businesses, or local retail chains were wiped out.

Yes, they will be affected initially, but they have to correct themselves and compete.

The opposition wants our economy to be confined into a well. Just like the pre 90's.
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Then why is Modi inviting China to occupy Indian manufacturing industry? Will not China's investments displace Indian manufacturing companies? Will it not ship all the profits to China?




manam oka point accept cheyyali.... he is doing better than our so called central minsters....

modi ni reforms chesthunna... person a believe chesi.... india ki infr. investment vesthe.... india ke manchindhi kadha....

not only that.... Modi manufacturing 100% kaani 51% isthanu ani vundaka povacchu... may be below 51% offer chesthu vundi vuntadu...

ayina... gujrat ki projects vacchina... central govt. decision tho ne ga vacchedhi....
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china lo ala jaruguthundhi ante.... i doubt.... corruption vuntundhi.... but not like india....

china allow chesindhi foreign companies..... but still they will do business with govt. terms....

in india alla jaruguthundhi ante.... naaku doubt... highly imposiible..




After bhopal thousands of foreign companies invested in India. Are they operating any worse than Indian companies?

Meeru cheppe logic accidents autunnayi kabatti asalu roads vaddu annattu undi
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I agree. But the Chinese chains won thru competition. Indian Govt is restricting FDI only in cities with more than a million population. Isn't that intervention?




India lo bhopal lo antha mandhi chavuki karanam ayina.... union carboid anderson gadini..... daggarundhi.... arjun singh goru... flight ekkincharu....

india intervention aa bondha.... dabbulu icchesthe pani ayipothundhi....

china lo ala jaruguthundhi ante.... i doubt.... corruption vuntundhi.... but not like india....

china allow chesindhi foreign companies..... but still they will do business with govt. terms....

in india alla jaruguthundhi ante.... naaku doubt... highly imposiible..
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Mesharu... Infrastructure lo 100% ki anni parties ok avuthayi.... I agree 100% with modi,jp etc..,




Meeru point choodandi. BJP's argument enti ante mana manufacturing sector reform cheyali. Mana manufacturing sector develop ayyake FDI allow cheyali ani.

Then why is Modi inviting China to occupy Indian manufacturing industry? Will not China's investments displace Indian manufacturing companies? Will it not ship all the profits to China?

Don't you see the hypocrisy?
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Mesharu... Infrastructure lo 100% ki anni parties ok avuthayi.... I agree 100% with modi,jp etc..,

Not in other sectors.... Manaki china ki compare chesthe.... Manam ekkado vuntam... Chivarana... We need 100% fdi in infra...

Inka other sectors lo anatara.... Debate jaragali....

Assalu opposition parties tho kaani... Parliament lo kaani... Intha varaku debate jargaledhu ane kadha.... Opposition argument....
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btw JP gaaru sudden gaa active ayinattunnaaru twitter lo
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Opposition parties anedhi... Without all party debate tho endhku chesthunnaru ane kadha...




All party debate cheyataniki parliament undi gaa. Already adi try chesaru gaa. Asalu constructive politics ekkada unnayi?

Okkati cheppandi Modi went to china and asked china to set up manufacturing plants in Gujarat. Same BJP is opposing FDI and asking for manufacturing sector reform. Did Modi reform Guj's manufacturing sector before inviting the chinese?

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I can show you multiple examples... China intervention in us companies ani.....

Its not easy to do business with china.... Its a known fact....




I agree. But the Chinese chains won thru competition. Indian Govt is restricting FDI only in cities with more than a million population. Isn't that intervention?
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I can show you multiple examples... China intervention in us companies ani.....

Its not easy to do business with china.... Its a known fact....
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Opposition blid ga arguE cheyyatam ledhu... Ane anukuntunna..

Opposition parties anedhi... Without all party debate tho endhku chesthunnaru ane kadha...

Itlanti policy implement cheyyataniki.... You have to take all party opinion... There is nothing wrong in that argument...

Govt. lo evarunna... Idhi implement ayyedhi...
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mesharu..china 9 years time icchindhi FDI impact valla retail economy meedha ela vuntundho telusukovataniki.... paiga.... companies ki 100% ownership vunna.... chinese govt. intervention ekkuva....




China Govt control cheste US companies business cheyavu. You can clearly see that Chinese retail chains out competed the foreign chains.

Ok, first less than 50% tho start cheyali anukundamu. Is the opposition even making that argument, instead of blindly rejecting them totally?
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intha all of the sudden decision ki ravadaniki karanam.... high food inflation rates kooda one of the reasons... we don't have any other options now...

ee problem illane continue ayithe..... mana indian economy inko brazil konni years back ayyinatlu avuthundhi...

manmohan ee decission eppudo.... below 50% tho china la implement chesi choosi vundalsindhi...

last year mid nunchi... manaki foreign depositis india nunchi vellipothunna daggara nunchi alochinchi.... last year dec nundi... govt. max try chesindhi...
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I already posted China's experience. We should discuss, not on assumptions, but on facts.




mesharu..china 9 years time icchindhi FDI impact valla retail economy meedha ela vuntundho telusukovataniki.... paiga.... companies ki 100% ownership vunna.... chinese govt. intervention ekkuva....

i doubt.... ala india lo vuntundhi ani....

FDI below 51% tho eppudo implement chesi..... consequences study chesi vundalsindhi.... all of the sudden.... ila implement chesthe.... how do we know the consequences...
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ee scenario inka maripothundhi ane kadha.... ippudu point.... kirans stores tho paatu medium indian retial stores ki kooda affect avuthundhi kooda...




FDI valana maha aithe 20% perugutayi ante. Poni 50% perigayi anukundamu. Market share will increase from 4% to 6%.

Indian retail will grow by about 30% with this new capital. Simple math - FDIs will simply occupy the new growth space.

I already posted China's experience. We should discuss, not on assumptions, but on facts.
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Inkoti ee basic fact answer cheyandi. Already cities lo tens of retail chains unnayi for the last 10yrs. Let us assume that your claim that retail chains send kirana shops out of business is true. Isn't 10yrs enough time to make that happen in cities? Don't you know that retail chains have co-existed with kirana shops for more than a decade?

yes, you are right, indian retail chains valla koncham affect ayindhi kirana stores ki...ee scenario inka maripothundhi ane kadha.... ippudu point.... kirans stores tho paatu medium indian retial stores ki kooda affect avuthundhi kooda...


All that is happening now is those 10 retail chains increase to 12 or 13. And you say that that alone will send all kirana shops out of business. 10 - 12, a mere 20% increase.

nenu ala alochinchatam ledhu.... intially 12 or 13.... aa number slowly padipothundhi.....
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Many of these changes, according to Chinese analysts, were made possible by the entry of foreign retail giants such as Walmart and Carrefour, who changed the way Chinese companies managed their businesses, from farm procurement to logistics. Yet, 20 years on, it is Chinese local retailers — and not their foreign competitors — who dominate the retail market, with initial fears of a foreign invasion ultimately appearing unfounded as local companies learned quickly to out-compete their foreign rivals.

The country's biggest retail firms today are all Chinese companies — the Shanghai Bailian group, Suning, Gome and Dashang — all have bigger sales than Walmart in China, according to several research studies.

Walmart, which came to China in 1996 and has since opened more than 350 stores, has seen its market share fall from 8 per cent to 5.5 per cent in the past three years, according to the China Market Research Group.



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kaneesam.... India allanti... pani kooda cheyyala....

without even knowing the consequences.... ela implement chestharu.....




Did India open 100%? Ledu gaa, meeru assumptions meeda vadiste elaga?

Inkoti ee basic fact answer cheyandi. Already cities lo tens of retail chains unnayi for the last 10yrs. Let us assume that your claim that retail chains send kirana shops out of business is true. Isn't 10yrs enough time to make that happen in cities? Don't you know that retail chains have co-existed with kirana shops for more than a decade?

All that is happening now is those 10 retail chains increase to 12 or 13. And you say that that alone will send all kirana shops out of business. 10 - 12, a mere 20% increase.

More over even after a decade, organized retail is only 4% of the total. With 3 or 4 more players per city, it will increase to a max of 6%.

Ippudu edo oka case choopinchi danni generalize cheyakandi. You only have extrapolations from a different, and non-similar economy. I gave you numbers, and examples from India, and more similar economies like China.

China, Brazil, or Indonesia everywhere local stores adjusted themselves and thrived. Walmart is not the #1 chain in any of these countries.
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And with this .. I will rest my case ..

http://www.firstpost.com/blogs/unorganised-sector-hindu-rate -and-terminological-terror-457021.html

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ee sodhi antha either bjp/tdp or anyparty opposing it you cannot have it both ways.

you want people to come and invest in your states and i want to be protectionist where i want?

reforms will surely in the beginning take away some jobs which are overhead but in long run its better.

if fdi rakapothe gujrath/AP would have been what it is today?

aiyna there is a good clause the states which are against it can block them from entering?

how is it different from reliance cash power and walmarts...actually if people are against it geting rid of walmart is easier.
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asalu why wont the super markets impact kiranas? even in cities with above 10 lakhs of people .. arent there any kiranas? wont they go out of business without enough profits?




yeah true....nenu ee point miss ayya... you are right... good point...
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mesharu 1992 implemented with 49% and 2001 lo full ga implement chesaru...

china almost 9 years gap icchindhi.... full ga implement chesthe consequences telusukovataniki....

kaneesam.... India allanti... pani kooda cheyyala....

without even knowing the consequences.... ela implement chestharu.....
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wont they go out of business without enough profits? if not, why .. what is the magic thats being performed on those kiranas? India lo more than 10 lakhs population unna cities .. around 50 unnayi .. and that number is increasing by the day ..




0 nundi 10 retail chains vachina unna kirana shops, inkoka 2 retail chains add aithe affect authaya?

If you want to support your claim, you should be saying that the Govt should ban all retail chains and allow only local business.
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India lo more than 10 lakhs population unna cities ..




idhi assalu comedy.... choodandi.... 10 lakhs kanna above ani policy ni implement chesi.... slowly aa "limtit" ni lepetharu......
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correction 49%

they have tried it with 49% and around 2001 time lo full ga implement chesindhi....




You do the googling. 2001 was 11 years ago. And in China and many other countries, local retail chains already ahead of Walmart.
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you are missing the main point.... spencer vatitho direct competition vuntundhi..... ee kirana shops tho indirect compettion vuntundhi....



asalu why wont the super markets impact kiranas? even in cities with above 10 lakhs of people .. arent there any kiranas? wont they go out of business without enough profits? if not, why .. what is the magic thats being performed on those kiranas? India lo more than 10 lakhs population unna cities .. around 50 unnayi .. and that number is increasing by the day ..
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naaku poddunna JP tweets ki kaaladaaniki reason cheppanaa? he was supporting it like this FDI in retail is a new found potion for eternal youth and immortality .. that is far from truth .. it is not even panacea of the problems we already have ..




he became official spokesperson of congress.. :-)

some of his points are good.... especially in infrastructure FDI....
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cheyyali kuda .. endukante .. blind folded ga velladaniki idemi ashta-chemma aata kaadu .. 4 crore ppl meeda and a whole nation meeda impact padutundi ..




51% is purely based lobbying tho chesthunnaru.... china is far far better than us.... they have implmented with 49% in 1992...
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china tried with 20% ownership in the begining....




correction 49%

they have tried it with 49% and around 2001 time lo full ga implement chesindhi....
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you are thinking about only +ve points..... nenu -ve points kooda discuss chesthunna....


cheyyali kuda .. endukante .. blind folded ga velladaniki idemi ashta-chemma aata kaadu .. 4 crore ppl meeda and a whole nation meeda impact padutundi ..

naaku poddunna JP tweets ki kaaladaaniki reason cheppanaa? he was supporting it like this FDI in retail is a new found potion for eternal youth and immortality .. that is far from truth .. it is not even panacea of the problems we already have ..

yes .. we need investments .. but we need to plug our own leakages in the system .. which are in our hands .. big-ticket corruption is one thing that has grown into a 10 headed monster .. 2G, CWG, CoalGate, ThoriumGate .. whats the value of the money that is lost??? can we plug those leaks? why cant we?

ekkado chadivaa .. FDI lo vache every dollar ki .. 25% yearly returns expect chesi vastayani .. not every FDI might not be dangerous .. and some may be needed .. but not in retail in my view .. it is god damn supply-chain mechanics .. and cold-storages isnt forbidden technology either .. if ur private sector is not doing the needed .. honestly search for an answer why it is not, if there is a "scope for profits" .. arent Ambanis/Tatas/Birlas competitive enough to seek profits?
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Look at China, or Indonesia, or Malaysia. China opened 100% FDI in retail long ago.




just google it.... china tried with 20% ownership in the begining....
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Walmart competes with Reliance, Tatas and the like, not with the local kirana shop.




you are missing the main point.... spencer vatitho direct competition vuntundhi..... ee kirana shops tho indirect compettion vuntundhi....
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oka super market lo .. photos - pharmacy-clothes-hardware goods-electronics-FMCG .. everything under the sky is sold .. and that impact will be huuuge ..




ee scenario taluchukuntuntene... entha mandhiki affect avuthundho cheppalemu....

chala mandhi ki direct and indirect employment pothundhi....
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i dont know much about this stuff.....

US lo local farmers enduku Walmart laanti companies tho unhappy gaa unnaaru?
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na point US scenario ni endhuku apply cheyyakoodadhu ani.... just google it.... before walmart and after walmart....retail paristhi emiti ani....




Enduku apply cheyakudadu already examples ichanu. Look at China, or Indonesia, or Malaysia. China opened 100% FDI in retail long ago. Indian economy closer to US than China, or Indonesia ante in lite.

Conquas:

Kirana shops anedhi.... self employment.... ee scenario completely ga maripothundhi anedhe point ikkada....

farmers ki oo tega help avuthundhi ani kooda ikkada evvaru cheppaleru... guessing is different




Mahaprabho Kirana shops market veru, Walmart market veru India lo. Without any restrictions giants like reliance, bharti, tatas co-existed with kirana shops for more than a decade. Meeru cheppindi nijam aithe Kirana should would have all disappeared by now.

Walmart competes with Reliance, Tatas and the like, not with the local kirana shop.
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US lo jarigindi direct gaa India ki apply cheyakandi. Indian economy more closer to developing economies like Chinas, and Indonesias.




ikkada evvaru.... blind ga oppose cheyyatam la...

na point US scenario ni endhuku apply cheyyakoodadhu ani.... just google it.... before walmart and after walmart....retail paristhi emiti ani....

developed or developing countries.... retail scenario is almost similar...

Kirana shops anedhi.... self employment.... ee scenario completely ga maripothundhi anedhe point ikkada....

farmers ki oo tega help avuthundhi ani kooda ikkada evvaru cheppaleru... guessing is different

once big box retailers ni allow chesthe with 51%.... slowly.... super walmart above 10 lakhs ki ani.... normal walmart above 5lakhs people ki ani ammendaments teesuku vastharu....lobbying tho....

you are thinking about only +ve points..... nenu -ve points kooda discuss chesthunna....
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Btw .. pappu/uppu ammukune shavukaar ke kaadu problem/competition ..

oka super market lo .. photos - pharmacy-clothes-hardware goods-electronics-FMCG .. everything under the sky is sold .. and that impact will be huuuge ..

btw .. 4 crore employed in retail business in India .. direct employment under retail .. indirect employment sangati enti?
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retail lo effect not just small retailers meeda kaadu....they change the way farming is done........manaki US ki polika leda in terms of economy




Yes, we need to change the way farming is done in India. Currently Govt has a monopoly on the produce. 40% of the food is wasted before it even reaches the market.

WE need investments and capital to build the supply chain infra, mainly in the agri economy. In the current situation, FDI is the only way to bring that.
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retail lo effect not just small retailers meeda kaadu....they change the way farming is done........manaki US ki polika leda in terms of economy

alraeady we have seen the ill effects of companies like Monsanto in India
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India lo corruption valla investments rakapothe, Walmart matram enduku vastundi invest cheyataniki. Lack of transparency, redtapism ivi WAlmart ki matram addu kaada? FDI in retail ki addu kaada?






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4 crore jobs oke saari padakapovachu .. 2 years lo just 10% market displace aithe 40 lakhs jobs lechipotayi .. FDI in retail ki employment generation potential .. GoI entha project chesindo .. can any supporter of FDI in retail ivvagalaraa?




LOL...More than a decade nundi Reliance, Birlas, Tatas, Future group, Bharti veellandaru asalu emi restrictions lekunda business cheste organized retail share is 4%.

Two years lo walmart adi 10% chestunda? That too with all the restrictions.
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Co opertavie farming antene collective farming kada ... evari land allake untadi... collective ga oke crop untundi why would they lose their land. eg AMUL


AMUL procurement/pricing model ki .. Walmart procurement/pricing model ki relation untunda tammi? India lo ne .. Amul is the only one of its kind .. I dont think expecting a parallel is not fair .. it is a pure capitalist company .. while Amul objective is a different purpose ..
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its good and bad.


mostly bad. i have business in usa. these big time corporate businesses valla maku chala ibbandhi uslo.

inka india lo ie chinna towns lo battala kotlu , chillara kotlu nadupukontunna smalla business owners ki chukkal. chala lechipothayi next 10 years lo.
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Co opertavie farming antene collective farming kada ... evari land allake untadi... collective ga oke crop untundi why would they lose their land. eg AMUL




True.

Walmart has done some malpractice. But that does not mean that they took every US farmer out of business. We can do it the right way, and we already have the checks put in.
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10 walmarts open ayinanta matrana 4 crores mandi oke sari road meeda padaru kada ... ipudoche walmart/tesco target spencer/more/reliance fresh customers ni target chestayi kani galli lo unde stores ni kadu kada. they can co-exist. daniki malli china ne example !!



can u tell me .. who are "fresh customers" .. were they not consumers till today?

4 crore jobs oke saari padakapovachu .. 2 years lo just 10% market displace aithe 40 lakhs jobs lechipotayi .. FDI in retail ki employment generation potential .. GoI entha project chesindo .. can any supporter of FDI in retail ivvagalaraa?
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Lets apply the same logic.

Why let Infy or TCS compete with accenture in India? Let us ban accenture.

Why let toyotas, and chevys compete with Mahindra? Let us ban them

Why let SBI compete with HSBC. Let us ban all foreign banks.

But let us allow Narendra Modi invite China to setup manufacturing in India, and call it manufacturing reform.
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Walmart is a company with deep money pockets .. deeper than Reliance or Aditya Birla or Heritage or any other Indian company .. it can push for business more aggressively and with more patience ..

There are no two retail markets in India .. for there is one seller .. and one buyer ..

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/S upermarkets-make-a-tryst-with-record-sales-on-Independence-D ay-occassion/articleshow/15527353.cms

This is what a vendor with deep pocket does (and imagine Walmart/Tesco in the fray) .. everything is manipulated .. supply .. demand .. everything ..

It will take a while to understand what hit us so hard, if this retail thing is successful ..
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slowly a huge population of the farming community will be thrown out of farming .. is there a system in India to make this transition from farming to other fields smooth?




Co opertavie farming antene collective farming kada ... evari land allake untadi... collective ga oke crop untundi why would they lose their land. eg AMUL





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India lo Retail sector has 4 crore people working in it .. Walmart at max will employee 1 lakh to a max of 5 lakhs depending on their success .. think how much % of the existing retail employees will have to face the music?? what is the alternative for them?





10 walmarts open ayinanta matrana 4 crores mandi oke sari road meeda padaru kada ... ipudoche walmart/tesco target spencer/more/reliance fresh customers ni target chestayi kani galli lo unde stores ni kadu kada. they can co-exist. daniki malli china ne example !!

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It has been seen MNCs retailers uses there big size to kill competitors.




Walmart competes with Reliance, Birla group, Tatas, future group etc. You think these ppl are not big enough?

US lo jarigindi direct gaa India ki apply cheyakandi. Indian economy more closer to developing economies like Chinas, and Indonesias. They opened FDI for retail decades ago. And in many countries domestic retail chains won the competition over Walmart
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Asalu emanna artham undaa, you are comparing apples to oranges. US does not restrict Walmart to open only in locations with more than a million population. India does.




LOL... once manam accept chesthe chalu... ammendments chala vasthayi.... its still begining....

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Companies like Walmart buy each item they sell in very huge quantity. So they sell at cheaper prices than other smaller retail chains like Relaince, Spencer etc. Hence they eat up the market share of these companies. Of-course people who rely on selling these products in their shops also suffer.

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India lo ki investments ravatledu .. and that bcoz of corruption, lack of transparency in policy making, red-tapism, slowing growth etc .. govt should have fixed those issues to get back investments .. not open another sector called "Retail" without taking adequate protectionist measures .. thats my bottomline ..




India lo corruption valla investments rakapothe, Walmart matram enduku vastundi invest cheyataniki. Lack of transparency, redtapism ivi WAlmart ki matram addu kaada? FDI in retail ki addu kaada?

Agree that all the above are there, but if these factors are stopping foreign investors, they should also stop Walmart, Tesco and the likes.,
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And the existing supermarkets are from giants like REliance, Tatas etc. Walmart will compete with them. Not with your local kirana store, bcoz the market for the local kirana store is different from the super markets.




Predatory pricing could strangulate the domestic retailers.

It has been seen MNCs retailers uses there big size to kill competitors.

In order to bring goods at lowest possible price for customers they squeeze the margins of their suppliers. So as claimed by thousand that suppliers will benefit, it still doubted.
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US lone intha affect ente.... India llanti countries lo inka affect avuthundhi....




Asalu emanna artham undaa, you are comparing apples to oranges. US does not restrict Walmart to open only in locations with more than a million population. India does.

Every family in US has a car, and can drive miles in minutes. Hyd lo konni areas lo 1 mile ki 1hr kooda pattochu. Ppl in India are not going to drive miles to go to walmart.
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I will agree with this JP's Tweet, he is 100% correct...

There is no solid argument against FDI in infrastructure. We need more investment. Capital is scarce. We must tap all sources.

http://twitter.com/JP_LOKSATTA/status/246822917910978560
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perfect... nenu na old postlalo adigindhi idhe.....

manaki edho manhciga avuthundhi ani Jp goru entha endorse cheina..... ee points evadu matladadu....

emanna ante.... BJP/TDP vallu tappa andhru support chesthunnaru.... antaru...

akkada own UPA lo members ee support cheyyatam la...

I can give 100 examples... walmart ravatam valla.... chuttu pakkana vunna retail business vallu entha mandhiki debbo....




Adigina point cheppandi mastaru, evaru endorse chesaru enduku.

Already FDI valla walmart vache cities lo 10+ supermarkets unnayi. You are saying that if walmart comes and opens the 11th one, ONLY THAT is going to affect kirana stores. Asalu logic ki andani vishayam idi.

And the existing supermarkets are from giants like REliance, Tatas etc. Walmart will compete with them. Not with your local kirana store, bcoz the market for the local kirana store is different from the super markets.
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US lone intha affect ente.... India llanti countries lo inka affect avuthundhi....

Economists David Neumark of University of California – Irvine, Junfu Zhang of Clark University and Stephen Ciccarella of Cornell University, Journal of Urban Economics, July 2007

"On average, Wal-Mart store openings reduce retail employment by about 2.7 percent, implying that each Wal-Mart employee replaces about 1.4 employees in the rest of the retail sector. Driven in part by the employment declines, retail earnings at the county level also decline as a result of Wal-Mart entry, by about 1.5 percent."
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India lo Retail sector has 4 crore people working in it .. Walmart at max will employee 1 lakh to a max of 5 lakhs depending on their success .. think how much % of the existing retail employees will have to face the music?? what is the alternative for them?




well said...

perfect... nenu na old postlalo adigindhi idhe.....

manaki edho manhciga avuthundhi ani Jp goru entha endorse cheina..... ee points evadu matladadu....

emanna ante.... BJP/TDP vallu tappa andhru support chesthunnaru.... antaru...

akkada own UPA lo members ee support cheyyatam la...

I can give 100 examples... walmart ravatam valla.... chuttu pakkana vunna retail business vallu entha mandhiki debbo....
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media lo entha allow chesthunnaaru FDI?
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super markets and kirana shops serve two different markets in India.
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Rowdy:

... appudu aa too kuda undadu ani antunnadu le




Ippati daaka 10 unna supermarkets 12 aithene anni kirana shops mootha padipotaya?


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There are easily 10 super markets even in 2nd tier cities like Vizag, Vijayawada in India. At the same time there are kirana shops too. This has been the status for the last 10yrs, at the least.

Let us say the FDI increases the 10 supermarkets to 13, or 14 in each city. So this increase by 3, or 4 is going to bankrupt all small businesses?, or are these new stores going to compete with the existing 10 supermarkets?

Idi chala chinna logic, you should easily get it.




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walmart jagan hands lo vunte, target or moodo vodu entry elaaa isthaaadu?




okkate entry allowed ani vunda?

walmart sees light in AP, target, kohls, penny's etc will also see it right, if walmart is allowed, target is also allowed, so andarini manage cheyaleru kada politicians...

so privatization is good in that way...

inka good or bad annedi evaru correct ga cheppaleru retail lo fdi....benefits ekkuve..consumers ki... yes people who own small shops will be impacted by it no doubt in it but that reason ni tesukonte privatization tappu idi okka dantlo nee tappu ante etta?

tellari legiste mana desaniki vochi invest cheyandi anni CM's out of country eltaru podune ikkada godava...
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ex: walmart jagan hands anuko, target some other x annuko iddaru competitive ga ne cheyyali so there is no fixation

iddaaru fix aiyte mudo vodu vostadu....


walmart jagan hands lo vunte, target or moodo vodu entry elaaa isthaaadu?

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privatization leni antha varake ee politicians nakaralu okka sari privatization voste villaki vuche...peddaga elu pettaledu

ex: walmart jagan hands anuko, target some other x annuko iddaru competitive ga ne cheyyali so there is no fixation

iddaaru fix aiyte mudo vodu vostadu....
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I foresee more disadvantages with Walmarts,Kohl stores going into the hands of politicians like Jagan,Gali,Brother Anil,Sabitha Indra Reddy...They are going to do the price fixation on all the products if such thing really happens....God save India.




antha cinema vundadu lee...

privatization lo initial ga corruption vundochu kani long run lo vundadu...
ekkuva cheste kosi karam pedtai...as they are answerable to share holders and price of their share matters.
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manchidega istam vunna states ee implement chesukontai....

prolong cheyagalaru appaleru FDI in retail...


appadam problem kadu...problem is evadu own chestaru stores ni...As jujung said, ministers, local goonda relatives start chesthe price fixation valla we have to pay the amount they ask for rather than paying the market price.
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essentially the local partners will be politicians or their relatives or someone who manages by paying them in suitcases.
just a ploy to grab more money by politicians in the guise of protecting locals


I foresee more disadvantages with Walmarts,Kohl stores going into the hands of politicians like Jagan,Gali,Brother Anil,Sabitha Indra Reddy...They are going to do the price fixation on all the products if such thing really happens....God save India.
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--States given discretionary powers of opting for it or not




manchidega istam vunna states ee implement chesukontai....

prolong cheyagalaru appaleru FDI in retail...
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essentially the local partners will be politicians or their relatives or someone who manages by paying them in suitcases.
just a ploy to grab more money by politicians in the guise of protecting locals




exactly. instead of just passing a law, thereby allowing outsiders deal with local partners and set a deal based on the legal constraints... now they need to get govt approval fro every deal, which means more money under the table.

see second paragraph, "Foreign investments in retail will have to go through Government approval first."
http://www.cedar-consulting.com/pdf/Retail%20FDI%20in%20Indi a.pdf

ye law aina manakenti ane type lo raaskuntaaar mana LKball politicians.
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i think the only reason for the govt to set the fdi limits at 51%, 49% etc is to give undue power to political negotiators - essentially the local partners will be politicians or their relatives or someone who manages by paying them in suitcases.
just a ploy to grab more money by politicians in the guise of protecting locals
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Tilak:


Artham lekunda unrelated points evo chepthaventi. Modi is inviting Chinese firms to SET UP MANUFACTURING UNITS IN INDIA. Thamari logic prakaram Indian firms ni encourage cheyachu gaa.

ASK CHINA TO SET UP MSNUFACTURING IN INDIA. THIS IS THE SO CALLED MANUFACTURING REFORM OF BJP
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ainaa since they left the final decision to individual states, we can see who will benefit..


cinima kanipisthundhi AP laanti states lo Jagan, Botsa, mukesh goud etc ministers tho deal chesi deal set cheyaalante. debbaki paaripothaaaru. no worries.
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FDI's in retail valla farmers ki loss anedi tappu anukuntunna , this will actually be hugely beneficial to the farmers, mundu mundu ee big retail companies supply chains lo losses taginchadaniki direct ga food producer deggaraki velataru middlemen ni cut chesi, mana farmer ki unna pedda ati pedda obstacle ee middlemen, this will also result in co-operative farming ,then they can afford more technology, productivity /yield perugutundi. bureaucracy tagipoddi.


tammi .. India lo 95% farmers/farming class have less than 2 acres each .. they are some of the smallest farmers in the world .. I agree with ur co-operative farming possibility if they have to see their produce to retail giants .. but that means, slowly a huge population of the farming community will be thrown out of farming .. is there a system in India to make this transition from farming to other fields smooth?

Stig:

Inka Mom&Pop stores ki bokka anedi kooda konta varaku wrong, day to day chinna chinna supplies kosam mana vallu anta dooralu traffic lo velli parking gola bharinchi prati varam walmart kelle vallu takkuva, china vallu 100% allow chesina akkada organized retail cos. share is less than 15% ... India lo kooda ante untadi, and also edanna small share poyina organized sector will compensate.


well .. everyone agrees that Walmart and Tesco have deep pockets? or do u think they dont? yes .. there cant be a walmart in every colony .. but do u understand that there will be a variant? For example .. LB Nagar lo Big Bazaar undi .. Vanasthalipuram lo More/Spencers unnayi .. Saroornagar has a Super-More ..

almost every major locality lo atleast 1 super markets vachesayi .. and they do eat away a considerable volume of business .. otherwise they wont be sustaining .. simple logic ee ga? Yes .. Walmart and other retail giants have failed in other countries ... can only pray and hope the same here .. kaani if they are successful in India .. the fear is it will be bloodbath in India .. official GoI estimates prakaram .. India lo Retail sector has 4 crore people working in it .. Walmart at max will employee 1 lakh to a max of 5 lakhs depending on their success .. think how much % of the existing retail employees will have to face the music?? what is the alternative for them?

Stig:

BJP/TDP opposition chair lo unnayi kabatti gola chestunnayi kani valle power lo unte congress la inta late ga kakunda ee patiki eppudo approve chese vallu !!


Thammi .. political parties are expected to do politics keeping in view the pulse of the people .. there is nothing wrong in politicking .. frankly .. last 1.5 years .. India lo ki investments ravatledu .. and that bcoz of corruption, lack of transparency in policy making, red-tapism, slowing growth etc .. govt should have fixed those issues to get back investments .. not open another sector called "Retail" without taking adequate protectionist measures .. thats my bottomline ..
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antha avasaram evadiki ledhu akkada labor ki kuda




Exactly......kavali ante Labour eee isthaaru credit..... Freee gaa dabbu vasthundhi - Rajiv Scheme - valla amma scheme - valla nanamma scheme peru tho...vallaki credit endhuku.....
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Chinna stores lot of still give for credits




ye voorlooo ? inka alanti system ekkadaa ledhu...may be in few villages,few traditional retailers might be giving.....antha avasaram evadiki ledhu akkada labor ki kuda
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Will the people who are opposing this - oppose this move if the same decision was taken by another political party?

See the decision - not the party which has taken it :-)
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today a farmer in Madanapalle is not even getting Rs.1 for a Kilo of tomatoes and the purchase is also not guaranteed....
Tomatoes are perishable and 40% of them get destroyed.

Due to large cold storage - chains - purchase is guaranteed and there is no need for finding a buyer - since these retail chains buy in bulk through contract system.
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FDI's in retail valla farmers ki loss anedi tappu anukuntunna , this will actually be hugely beneficial to the farmers, mundu mundu ee big retail companies supply chains lo losses taginchadaniki direct ga food producer deggaraki velataru middlemen ni cut chesi, mana farmer ki unna pedda ati pedda obstacle ee middlemen, this will also result in co-operative farming ,then they can afford more technology, productivity /yield perugutundi. bureaucracy tagipoddi.

Inka Mom&Pop stores ki bokka anedi kooda konta varaku wrong, day to day chinna chinna supplies kosam mana vallu anta dooralu traffic lo velli parking gola bharinchi prati varam walmart kelle vallu takkuva, china vallu 100% allow chesina akkada organized retail cos. share is less than 15% ... India lo kooda ante untadi, and also edanna small share poyina organized sector will compensate.

BJP/TDP opposition chair lo unnayi kabatti gola chestunnayi kani valle power lo unte congress la inta late ga kakunda ee patiki eppudo approve chese vallu !!

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In the 1980s whenj the givt of the day started computerising the Govty offices, the Trade Unions were up in arms....

There will always be resistance to change....

those who welcome it will thrive
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At last the govt has woken up from it's slumber.......

party affiliations pakkana petti - please appreciate and see the good in these decisions.....negative aspects are also there - but than there is nothing that is absolutely good in this world
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Bio-gas agri waste .. more than 8000 crores investments proposed ..

http://www.gujagro.org/Images/biogas-fuel-agri-waste.pdf

we need to protect our people first .. even if we invite investments .. adi bottomline ..
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http://www.gujagro.org/guj_agri_proc.htm

Gujarat has since 2003 tried to establish more "agro-processing" industries to help its farmers .. teliyakunda matladithe .. mana agnaname bayata padedi .. fortunately ..

sample case .. 2009 vibrant gujarat summit lo .. just agro processing sector lo .. more than 2000 crores ki MoU's sign chesindi .. Govt of Guj .. http://www.gujagro.org/Images/food-processing-1.pdf
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Shivrampally location is their warehouse .. LB Nagar lo Walmart pettindi .. to take on business from Malakpet .. which is less than 6-7 kms from NTR nagar ..

plz talk only if u know .. or else .. plz dont .. LB Nagar location has huuge business potential .. anduke pettadu .. it is well within the city with a ring road .. giving easy access to almost all the city .. intha kante vivaram ga evadu cheppaledu ..

all these false claims will be busted in the next 2-3 years ..
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10 reasons why FDI in retail is bad.... good blog..

http://sanjaykaul.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/10-reasons-why-fd i-in-retail-is-a-bad-idea/
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LB Nagar / NTR nagar .. city lo location kaada? denemma .. ivaala repu Hayathnagar/Shamshabad/Madhapur kuda city lo ne undi antonte ..

LB Nagar is less than 10 kms from Koti/Abids ..
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Bharti Walmart Pvt Ltd, is all set to make its debut in Hyderabad with a Best Price wholesale outlet at Shivrampally near the international airport.




Shivrampally near international airport, kooda middle of the city...
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LOL .. LB Nagar is "away from the city" .. sare le .. baavi lothu alantidi ..




Lekapothe LB Nagar middle of the city aa LOL....

Monnati daaka Ranga Reddy district, Greater Hyderabad form ayyaka kalisindi Hyd lo. Teliyani vadiki cheppu velli.
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Walmart set to make its debut in Hyderabad


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HYDERABAD: Retailing giant Walmart, which has a presence in India through a joint venture with Bharti group -- Bharti Walmart Pvt Ltd, is all set to make its debut in Hyderabad with a Best Price wholesale outlet at Shivrampally near the international airport.

"The company has acquired around two acres of land adjacent to the PVNR expressway and has already begun work at the site," sources said. This will be the third Bharti Walmart wholesale outlet in Andhra Pradesh, sources told TOI. The company already has stores in the state at Vijayawada and Guntur.

Also called cash and carry stores, the Best Price wholesale stores cater only to businesses like kirana shop owners, general merchandise resellers, hotels, restaurants, caterers, offices and institutions by offering products at wholesale rates. Bharti Walmart currently has a total of 17 Best Price outlets across eight states including Jammu & Kashmir, Punjab, AP, Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra and Rajasthan.

Apart from Bharti-Walmart's debut in Hyderabad, Bharti Retail Pvt Ltd, the retail arm of the Sunil Bharti Mittal run Bharti group, is also planning its debut in Hyderabad with the first of its 'easyday' retail outlets slated to come up in LB Nagar.

It is learnt that the LB Nagar outlet may be opening its doors either by May or June. However it is not clear if the outlet will be an easyday neighbourhood store, easyday Market or easyday Hyper outlet. Bharti Retail currently has 150 easyday outlets across 10 states.




http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-23/hyder abad/31229568_1_bharti-walmart-pvt-outlet-easyday

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The players Walmart is going to compete with are Reliance, Tatas (have tie-up with Tesco), Aditya Birla group, Future group etc. All of them are looking to expanding in retail. Now read this


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"The next two-three years will see most of the players expanding their scale aggressively across the country," says Mishra of E&Y. "In the retail business you have to expand to increase your profits. There is no other route." The bottomline is that everyone -- big and small -- needs money. "This sector needs funding and FDI is a good source," Mishra says. He expects the easing of FDI rules to be phased out. "Many Indian retailers who are cash strapped are looking forward to FDI in multi-brand retail for the investments that it will bring in," says Varghese of Reliance. "It will also make joint ventures easier, simpler and cleaner."




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LB Nagar is the middle of Hyd.



LOL .. LB Nagar is "away from the city" .. sare le .. baavi lothu alantidi ..
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http://www.easydayindia.com/

This is Walmart and Bharti's retail outlet store .. these locations are just in Delhi/NCR region .. and they are not "away from the city" as ppl are speaking untruths ..

Delhi/NCR Locations

Easy Day
Location - Mahagun Mall, Sec-3, Vaishali, Ghaziabad – 201012

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Easy Day

Location - P No-11, Grd Flr, Ramphal Chowk, Sec-7, Dwarka, Delhi – 110075

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Easy Day

Location - C-3/12, C-BLK, Janak Puri, Delhi – 110058

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Easy Day

Location - Shop No-2, Opp Geetanjali Apt, Shanti Vihar, Karkardooma, Delhi – 110092

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Easy Day

Location - Shopprix Mall, Noida, Noida – 201301

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Easy Day

Location - F-1/123, Vikas Puri, Delhi – 110018

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Easy Day2 ratings

Location - Shop No C-2/8, Sec-14, Prashant Vihar, Delhi – 110085

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Easy Day

Location - L 29, Ramesh NGR, Kirti Nagar, Delhi – 110015

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Easy Day

Location - B 3/178, GRD FLR, Opp Cafe Coffee Day, Janak Puri, Delhi – 110058

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Easy Day

Location - A-3/8, Grd Flr, Nr Jwala Heri Mkt, Paschim Vihar, Delhi – 110063

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Easy Day

Location - Jaipuria Mall, Ahinsa Khand-2, Indirapuram, Ghaziabad – 201014

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Easy Day

Location - Sco-25, Hooda Mkt, Faridabad Sector-16, Faridabad – 121002

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Easy Day

Location - Shop No F-300, Grd Flr, F-Blk, Mansarover Garden, Delhi – 110015

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Easy Day VASUNDHARA

Location - Vasundhara, Sec-13, Ghaziabad, Ghaziabad – 201001
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LOL .. Walmart is coming up in the huge "Janapriya" facility in NTR nagar near LB Nagar .. it is a 15 floor building and Walmart is going to occupy more than 5 floors with more than 1,00,000 sq ft space .. and many retailers (based in adjacent LB Nagar) are damn scared .. even the malakpet ganj retailers are worried about a huge loss of business ..




Same Walmart opened in VJA more than a year ago..

LB Nagar is the middle of Hyd.
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Sir, since 1991 .. more than 10 lakh Indian farmers committed suicides .. because of changing market dynamics and their inability to come clear of debts .. ever pondered why?




Bcoz Govt monopolized their market. FDI in retail will change that coz retail chains will provide an alternate market to the farmer.

And parties that did not speak about manufacturing reform in 30yrs of their politics, suddenly remember it today bcoz they want to oppose FDI.
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LOL .. Walmart is coming up in the huge "Janapriya" facility in NTR nagar near LB Nagar .. it is a 15 floor building and Walmart is going to occupy more than 5 floors with more than 1,00,000 sq ft space .. and many retailers (based in adjacent LB Nagar) are damn scared .. even the malakpet ganj retailers are worried about a huge loss of business ..
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Indian farmers works for the lowest profit margin in the whole world




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then....why you are fixing something.. which is not broken....?




Growth potential ani chaduko galaru. Without more investment it will decline.

Another fact: Given the challenge of finding real estate, Walmart can never open such huge stores in the middle of the city. My claim is supported by the fact that Walmart is still in search of a place to open their wholesale in Hyd, and in VJA they opened only in Nidamanuru, which is not even the outskirts of VJA.
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2. if indian farmer can't produce a particular thing for a cheaper price than some other farmer elsewhere, either he will improve his productivity (agri reforms) or change his crop or change his occupation.. i don't see why 50% of the people has to be in farming even in the 21st century.. US lo at the beginning of 20th cnetury more than 60% in farming, now less than 5%..


Sir, since 1991 .. more than 10 lakh Indian farmers committed suicides .. because of changing market dynamics and their inability to come clear of debts .. ever pondered why?
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Let the Govt allow farmers to export their products before it allows imports by walmart.




Walmart will not import food products, period.

US lo kooda manam sona masoori konukku thinte, India lo vaadu thailand rice tintada? No way.

Inka migatha products anni, WAlmart import cheste, so will ANY Indian super market chain. So Walmart valana kothaga import ayyevi emi undavu.
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Indian retail sector is growing at 30% per annum.




then....why you are fixing something.. which is not broken....?
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ofcourse some businesses will go bankrupt.. if a business goes bankrupt that will lead to a better and more efficient allocation of precious resources.. and that is a very much a part of doing business.. business by its nature is risky.. no govt can or should not give guarantee to any business.. they are wasting resources (which could be used more beneficially elsewhere) if they are artificially propping up some businesses


I wish .. I read this "gyaan" when Obama and Hillary were pushing Walmart and securing "business" .. but you never come to our rescue in such times ..

How easy to say .. someone will be out of business and an american corp will replace him .. nice ..
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either he will improve his productivity (agri reforms) or change his crop or change his occupation



he is pretty screwed already...agri reforms vachi unte ee patike ravali,raledhu.he will be screwed more anthe.
Let the Govt allow farmers to export their products before it allows imports by walmart.
yes,US lo only 2% are involved in farming.manam kuda people meeda dependency tagginchukuni machinery ki pani cheppali.production cost taggutundhi.
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thailand oka example matrame..... what i meant.... ekkada cheap vunte.... akkada nunchi.... ani.... if rice and things are cheaper in other countries..... ee big mnc akkada nunchi teeskuku vasthayi.....




Ekkada cheap oka country cheppandi. Indian farmers works for the lowest profit margin in the whole world, afaik.

Moreover when India can grow crops 12 months a year, and has the cheapest labor, why will Walmart or anybody want to pay transportation costs from a foreign land?
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chala chinna stores ki debba tagilindhiii... indian supermarkets valla kooda... ex: reliance fresh etc., but still reliance fresh lo indian farmers nunchi konnavi dorukuthayi...

walmart lo dorike products... vadiki ekkada cheap vunnte akkada nunchi...teesukuvasthadu.... India farmers nunche kontadu ani gaurantee emiti?

for ex: rice india lo costly ga vunte.... thailand rice ammuthadu indian walmart lo.... appudu evariki benefit???



exactly .. and not only that .. rapid urbanization in the last 15 years .. increased populations on a big scale in Tier-1 and Tier-2 cities .. so aa growth in markets .. did not entirely show the devastating effect on the "small kirana" stores ..

but Vijayawada lo retail business is a classic example of walmart .. traditional retail business did get impacted badly .. anybody can check ..
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Another fact for you - Indian retail sector is growing at 30% per annum. Adding 2 more supermarkets for more than 10lakh populated cities will only eat into that growing 30%.
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Indian food, rice, or veggies are the cheaper than thailand




thailand oka example matrame..... what i meant.... ekkada cheap vunte.... akkada nunchi.... ani.... if rice and things are cheaper in other countries..... ee big mnc akkada nunchi teeskuku vasthayi.....
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1. consumer benefit avvakapothe walmart lo konatam manestharu.. appudu walmart kottu moosesukuntadu.. i dont understand this logic..

2. if indian farmer can't produce a particular thing for a cheaper price than some other farmer elsewhere, either he will improve his productivity (agri reforms) or change his crop or change his occupation.. i don't see why 50% of the people has to be in farming even in the 21st century.. US lo at the beginning of 20th cnetury more than 60% in farming, now less than 5%..

3. you are forgetting the new businesses that will come up to support the expanded retail sector
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Fact 2: Indian supermarkets already import a lot of goods from China.




Lot of goods, I mean non food items. Plastic ware etc.

Conquas:

chala chinna stores ki debba tagilindhiii... indian supermarkets valla kooda...




10yrs nundi unnayi kada super markets, more than 10 per city. Ippudu aa 10, 12 aithe aakasam oodi padipotundi, whole market changes, anthe naa?

That too when we know that Indians don't have the mobility like in the US to travel miles to buy stuff.
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So the issue is import restrictions, not whether the super market is owned by an Indian, or foreign company.




You are missing key point here....


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--51 percent FDI allowed in multi-brand retail




this is big for lobbyists....


Indiarocks:

Walmart vaadu bayata nundi teeskoste Reliance ni evaru aaputunnaru? What makes you think he can't?




manam imports cheseukuni cheskuni ila inflation problem tecchukunnam....
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chala chinna stores ki debba tagilindhiii... indian supermarkets valla kooda... ex: reliance fresh etc., but still reliance fresh lo indian farmers nunchi konnavi dorukuthayi...

walmart lo dorike products... vadiki ekkada cheap vunnte akkada nunchi...teesukuvasthadu.... India farmers nunche kontadu ani gaurantee emiti?




Fact: Indian food, rice, or veggies are the cheaper than thailand, and many countries, bcoz Indian Govt pays only peanuts to the farmer.

Walmart vaadu bayata nundi teeskoste Reliance ni evaru aaputunnaru? What makes you think he can't?

Fact 2: Indian supermarkets already import a lot of goods from China.

So the issue is import restrictions, not whether the super market is owned by an Indian, or foreign company.
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idhi matram jaragadhu...they are the scapegoats everywhere.




+1

evaranna benefits pondhutaru ante.... vallu Big box stores like walmarts and Politicians.... migatha vallu benefits ante.... i doubt....
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farmers will benefit



idhi matram jaragadhu...they are the scapegoats everywhere.
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oppose chesevallu ekkadaina untaru.. that does not mean they are right..




same thing applies with your statment....

MNCs allow chesinnatha matrana....India lo vunna farmers ki kaani customers ki kaani... help avuthundhi anukovatam kooda not correct...

FDI policy valla inflation issue ni solve cheyyatiniki tappa.... idhi India ki usefull avvatam anedhi..... I doubt...
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sandhu chivara chillara kottu safe.super markets,pedha kirana shops,where people buy goods for a month,ki effect untundhi.ayina pedha kirana shops run chese communities are very intelligent fellows,they will comeup with some plan for damage control,walmart ke sukkal supetteygalaru...i wish so:D
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2nd tier cities lo asalu kirana shops undakudadu, coz more than 10yrs nundi anni cities lo supermarkets unnayi




chala chinna stores ki debba tagilindhiii... indian supermarkets valla kooda... ex: reliance fresh etc., but still reliance fresh lo indian farmers nunchi konnavi dorukuthayi...

walmart lo dorike products... vadiki ekkada cheap vunnte akkada nunchi...teesukuvasthadu.... India farmers nunche kontadu ani gaurantee emiti?

for ex: rice india lo costly ga vunte.... thailand rice ammuthadu indian walmart lo.... appudu evariki benefit???
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on this whole concept of some sections losing out due to any changes in the economy:
ofcourse some businesses will go bankrupt.. if a business goes bankrupt that will lead to a better and more efficient allocation of precious resources.. and that is a very much a part of doing business.. business by its nature is risky.. no govt can or should not give guarantee to any business.. they are wasting resources (which could be used more beneficially elsewhere) if they are artificially propping up some businesses

fdi vasthe kontha mandi kirana stores vallue nashtapotharu, but at the same time farmers will benefit.. consumers will benefit from lower prices.. food storage facilities will expand rapidly.. more new businesses would come up to cater to this.. etc and etc..

economy is not a one-dimensional 2 player game..
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If ur big fish eat small fish theory is correct, 2nd tier cities lo asalu kirana shops undakudadu, coz more than 10yrs nundi anni cities lo supermarkets unnayi, more than 10 per city. 10yrs is enough to eat all the small fish.




Why don't u answer this?

Last 10yrs paigaa a minimum of 10 super markets, and kirana shops are co-existing in India. Do you agree?
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With the Gujarat assembly election less than six months away, chief minister Narendra Modi is working furiously to get China's big business to invest in his state. As a follow-up of his visit to that country in November, Modi had sent his top aides last week to woo top Chinese companies
in power, textiles, construction and auto sector to shift their manufacturing units to Gujarat.




Manufacturing reform blah blah.... Why not Modi look at reforming the Indian manufacturing sector, before asking China to set up factories here? kiki...
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copying this link from some law firm website:

US lone piccha anti... ee walmarts meedha..




oppose chesevallu ekkadaina untaru.. that does not mean they are right.. the thing is in the US most people do not and hence it's more developed than most other countries.. not because they like wal mart, but because they like free markets.. because of that it was easy for a walmart to develop here and deploy economies of scale and gain efficiency..

ade india lo, sava laksha permits, licenses valla the only people who can succeed are those who can grease the politicians or those who have "connections".. and most people in india think these licenses/permits are all necessary to protect them from the rapacious businessmen.. and this is why india is still poor
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http://stopwalmartcolorado.com/economic-impacts-of-walmart/

Food for Thought: A Case Study of Walmart’s Impact on Harlem’s Healthy Food Retail Landscape

Office of the Manhattan Borough President, November 2011

"Based on the experience of retailers in Chicago's West Side, within the first year of a Walmart moving into the vacant lot at West 125th Street and Lenox Avenue, anywhere from 30 to 41 fresh food retailers could go out of business, taking with them between approximately 110,300 and 126,300 square feet of fresh food retail space."
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Ela same autharu? Hyd lo 5km dooram lo unna walmart ki 1hr pattochu, 1 way driving ki. US lo entha time padutundi?

Yes US Lo law suits unnayi, mari US lo 10lk kante ekkuva population untene walmart pettali ani rule ledu.

If ur big fish eat small fish theory is correct, 2nd tier cities lo asalu kirana shops undakudadu, coz more than 10yrs nundi anni cities lo supermarkets unnayi, more than 10 per city. 10yrs is enough to eat all the small fish.
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Indiarocks:

US concept apply cheyakandi.




why? customers every where same...

copying this link from some law firm website:

US lone piccha anti... ee walmarts meedha..

http://www.lawmall.com/wal-martproscons.php


Indiarocks:

2 super markets add aithe appati daaka unna 10+ super markets




simple logic.... Big fish eat small fish....
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technological parity/level playing field:
this is largely a side issue and hardly matters in the long run.. it's never about who is the absolute best in any field.. it's always about who has the relative advantage in a particular aspect.. allowing everyone and more capital will only distill the special advantages of indian human resources, which will then be effectively used..
take the example of japan or even south korea (contrast with the very SWADESHI north korea here) for that matter.. they do not have great natural resources and they cannot afford to go swadeshi even if they want to.. but that did not make them poor.. they concentrated on the stuff they can do and delivered better than the rest of the world on that particular aspect.. in return, they import the other stuff they cannot do..
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City more than 10lk population lo 2 super markets add aithe appati daaka unna 10+ super markets and kirana stores mootha padataya?

US concept apply cheyakandi. Here u can drive 3-4 miles easily to Walmart to buy a safety pin. India lo anta dooram traffic lo velatara?

Walmart whole sale kooda VJA lo dooramgaa nidamanuru daggara pettadu. Real estate is another issue
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do you know why some cities oppose walmarts in their cities in US?


baavi lo ki ee news raadu .. u will never get a reply to this question .. I bet ..
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give me an argument opposing fdi in retail without supporting the following cases:


technological parity/equality unda world antha??? then tell me how will India's manufacturing sector compete with say US/China nexus? before opening up economy for grabs .. why did not they come up with manufacturing reforms? just asking ..
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give me an argument opposing fdi in retail without supporting the following cases:
computers vasthe labor value padipoyiddi.. car lu vasthe gurrapu bandlolu nashtapotharu.. 24 hrs power unte inverters ammukune vallu nashtapotharu..




Its a waste of your time. Congress em cheste adi guddi gaa oppose cheyali. Anthe..

Modi kurrodu 6 months ki oka sari edo oka country ki velli maa country lo invest cheyandi ante adi super. Ade pani central Govt cheste thappu. Ee baavi chala lothinadi.
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Let us say the FDI increases the 10 supermarkets to 13, or 14 in each city.




walmart lu target lu perigithe.... chinna chinna spermarkets lu kooda disappear avuthayi... along with kirana stores....

aa supermarkets kooda indians ve... once walmarts and other MNCs perigithe.... poyedhi... mana stores ee....

do you know why some cities oppose walmarts in their cities in US?
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then u will understand why we need to allow fdi/open competition everywhere.. not just in retail but also in education, all industries, health care and so on..


yeah .. let there be open competition within your nation .. it is senseless to say compete with some other country .. where the rules of the game are different .. level playing field lenappudu .. mana country ke nastam ani telisina .. open up .. open up ani aravadam is equalent to supporting rape ..
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so FDI in retail .. is an idea of an open mind .. nice ..

how will the decision help India?




give me an argument opposing fdi in retail without supporting the following cases:
computers vasthe labor value padipoyiddi.. car lu vasthe gurrapu bandlolu nashtapotharu.. 24 hrs power unte inverters ammukune vallu nashtapotharu..

then u will understand why we need to allow fdi/open competition everywhere.. not just in retail but also in education, all industries, health care and so on..
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problem ante... chinna chinna stores ki debba.... till now... adhi chala mandhiki employment.... chinna chinna stores disapper avuthayi.... adhe main concern....




There are easily 10 super markets even in 2nd tier cities like Vizag, Vijayawada in India. At the same time there are kirana shops too. This has been the status for the last 10yrs, at the least.

Let us say the FDI increases the 10 supermarkets to 13, or 14 in each city. So this increase by 3, or 4 is going to bankrupt all small businesses?, or are these new stores going to compete with the existing 10 supermarkets?

Idi chala chinna logic, you should easily get it.
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this socialism/communism/swadeshi are the worst ideas that crippled the nation for more than 50 yrs


Swadeshi? when was it even govt policy in the last 50 yrs??? but still included it in the list ?
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this socialism/communism/swadeshi are the worst ideas that crippled the nation for more than 50 yrs




I request you to please come to the db everyday. mee thoughts bagunnayi.
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ilanti piccha ideas ni alaa pakkana petti open up the minds and expand the vision..




chaa...kastam andi..ippatlo sadhyam kaadu
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this socialism/communism/swadeshi are the worst ideas that crippled the nation for more than 50 yrs


LOL
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ainaa since they left the final decision to individual states, we can see who will benefit..

20 yrs back manolla mentality entante thokkalo phone connection ki kooda queue lu, recommendation lu, etc etc.. and for national security they would not allow radios.. ippudu luckily telecom lo it's mostly gone but ade mentality still continues in many areas..

this socialism/communism/swadeshi are the worst ideas that crippled the nation for more than 50 yrs
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ilanti piccha ideas ni alaa pakkana petti open up the minds and expand the vision..



oh .. so FDI in retail .. is an idea of an open mind .. nice ..

how will the decision help India?
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iddaru kalipi almost 20% vote bank .. Nadars alone more than 12% .. and they vote for Congress due to Kamraj Nadar connection ..




oho... ee angle kooda vundha...
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this is the best decision of the govt after nuclear deal and rti. 8 yrs lo pretty dismal performance.. if they can go thru with this, it wud be great.

fdi allow chesthe kirana stores vallu nashta potharu.. computers vasthe labor value padipoyiddi.. car lu vasthe gurrapu bandlolu nashtapotharu.. 24 hrs power unte inverters ammukune vallu nashtapotharu.. air india vadu discount ivvakapothe pedaprajalu flight lo travel cheyyaleru.. fresh graduates ki IT companies ekkuva jeethalivvatam machidi kaadu..
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bargain chesthunnatlu vundhi... will never allow ante... entha istharu ani emo... bro..



atla kaadu le .. TN lo max Kirana shops are run by Chettiars .. max retail shops are run by Nadars .. iddaru kalipi almost 20% vote bank .. Nadars alone more than 12% .. and they vote for Congress due to Kamraj Nadar connection .. may be she is eyeing for their votes .. by opposing FDI in retail ..

genuine ga .. see the number of jobs lost .. that scares most people ..
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Will never allow FDI retail in Tamil Nadu: Chief Minister




bargain chesthunnatlu vundhi... will never allow ante... entha istharu ani emo... bro..
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Will never allow FDI retail in Tamil Nadu: Chief Minister

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article389837 1.ece
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Made in the United States

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article3897906.ece

Please read this ..
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private insurance companies growth rate 60-70 unte LIC lanti state player 20% kooda ledu, ippudu 2/3 rd unna LIC share sagam ki tagipovadam khayam. Inta chesi Insurance lo FDI cap 25%



thats bcoz .. LIC has to do the clean up job for the govt's corruption ..

govt PSU's lo disinvestment cheyyalante .. bayata evadu ready lekapothe LIC tho 1000s of crores invest cheyistaru .. same case with UTI .. and thats how it is hurting LIC deliberately ..
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read tweets of JP of LSP .. what a sick person ..





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@ Netsaint : Insurance failed banks failed, aviation lo kooda fdi fail authadi //



Evaru chepparu Insurance failed ani ?? India lo almost every private player in insurance has tie ups with a foreign companies ... private insurance companies growth rate 60-70 unte LIC lanti state player 20% kooda ledu, ippudu 2/3 rd unna LIC share sagam ki tagipovadam khayam. Inta chesi Insurance lo FDI cap 25%

Aviation, ayina Retail ayina Indian companies ni ippudu vallalo invest cheyaboye foreign companies nunchi major ga kavalsindi Cash flow ante, end [point lo logistics, maintenance anni choosukunedi Indian partners ... for eg ippudu dookadaniki ready ga unna vallalon Walmart (Bharat), Carrefour (Kihsore biyani's future group), Tesco (tata) ellanta India lo tala pandina thatale ... kachitanga dent pedataru andariki !!

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--States given discretionary powers of opting for it or not
corruption ki chances are high....



well said ..

walmart said .. it officially spent 52 crores in India for lobbying for FDI in retail .. 450 billion USD retail market ni .. oka 500 crores lobbying ki spend chesi tinestaadu .. what a pitiable state we are in ..

btw .. read tweets of JP of LSP .. what a sick person ..

https://twitter.com/JP_LOKSATTA

supports every govt decision - increase in diesel price .. fdi in retail and aviation .. says for controlling fiscal deficit, we need to do these .. hails govt for biting the "last bullet of reform" ..
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40 million people are now employed in retail .. entha mandiki "new employment" vastundi .. entha mandiki potundi .. any stats?

Netsaint:

which normal traders won't prefer



lets see .. lets hope u r correct ..
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But good thing is chala jobs create avutayi both in US & India....




who cares US lo jobs create ayithe mesharu.... India ki anthaga job creation antu vundadhu....

Walmart vaadu..... china nunchi cheap vi teesukuvacchi manaku ammuthadu..... ee discussion chala sarlu jarigindhi....


Govt. not able to resolve Inflation problem..... under manmohan as a PM.... this is the only option left for them.....

--States given discretionary powers of opting for it or not
corruption ki chances are high....

--Government expects to generate funds, jobs and stimulus for economy
I doubt.....

--Government also expects to tame inflation from the move
economists in india.... don't have any other options

--Farmers expected to get healthy returns for produce
I doubt...

--Consumer to benefit with more choices and competitive prices
definately.... yes/no.... below middle class vallu entha mandhi quality ni care chestharu....

--$450 billion retail market in India

Lobbying won....
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mothaniki rates baaaadestgaru final ga, workout kaaka naakesthaaru.

Chinna stores lot of still give for credits. Walmart vi cash and carry type

which normal traders won't prefer



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Insurance failed banks failed, aviation lo kooda fdi fail authadi

walmart ki India transportation system teliyadhu... Diesel rates aa trucks tiragaalante

vaaachi pothadu unless they hangar godowns and it's has lot of power problems

mothaniki rates baaaadestgaru final ga, workout kaaka naakesthaaru.

Chinna stores lot of still give for credits. Walmart vi cash and carry type

which normal traders won't prefer
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.walmart policies tho patu figres ni kuda pettu india lo janal egabadi kontaru...


30 day return policy ni baga misuse chestaru
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final ga every one is happy now...later on we will see...:D
nakinchestaru....:D...walmart policies tho patu figres ni kuda pettu india lo janal egabadi kontaru...:D
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Highlights of FDI decision.


FDI in multi-brand retail
--51 percent FDI allowed in multi-brand retail
--States given discretionary powers of opting for it or not
--Government expects to generate funds, jobs and stimulus for economy
--Government also expects to tame inflation from the move
--Farmers expected to get healthy returns for produce
--Less agriculture wastage due to the decision
--Consumer to benefit with more choices and competitive prices
--Foreign brands like Wal-Mart, Tesco and Carrefour eying to enter India
--$450 billion retail market in India
FDI in single-brand retail
--100 percent single brand FDI allowed
--30 percent local sourcing mandatory
FDI in aviation
--Foreign carriers can now pick up 49 percent stake in India airlines
--Airlines like Kingfisher and SpiceJet keen on foreign funds
-- With India one of the fastest growing aviation markets in the world, airlines can gain international technical assistance and expertise
--Transactions will be governed by SEBI norms
--Key positions in the airline will be held by Indian citizens
--Foreign nationals and equipment under the stake sale will be scrutinised
--Total FDI in air transport sector from 2000-2012 at $434.75 million
FDI in broadcast
--Government decides to raise FDI cap to 74 percent
--FDI not hiked in TV news channels and FM radio
--Decision to benefit consumers with more choices and competitive pricing
--FDI also allowed in Mobile TV
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problem ante... chinna chinna stores ki debba.... till now... adhi chala mandhiki employment.... chinna chinna stores disapper avuthayi.... adhe main concern....


hmmm...adi eppudu vunde problem...But good thing is chala jobs create avutayi both in US & India....
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Power sector inka Railways




problem ante... chinna chinna stores ki debba.... till now... adhi chala mandhiki employment.... chinna chinna stores disapper avuthayi.... adhe main concern....

good thing is aviation sector ni add chesaru.... baga lobbying chesinatlu vunnadu.... Malya... king fisher kosam......

on papaer ila help avuthundhi mana economy ki....

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Overall, the new policy shall provide a significant boost to the $28
Bn Indian organized retail market which is expected to reach $260
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india mottham MNCs chethiloki vellipothundhi


deeni valla problem enti ? Govt control sectors enni success ayyayi India lo ? Slow ga Power sector inka Railways kooda FDI cheste better anukunta ?
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Inflation problem ni control cheyyataniki.... ee decision anta... we don't have any options left...

ayipoyindhi.... india mottham MNCs chethiloki vellipothundhi.... ippudu only retail and aviation.... slowly anni sectors..........


The $428 Bn retail sector in India has received a shot in the arm by
the Indian Government‟s recent policy decision to allow Foreign
Direct Investment (FDI) of upto 51% in multibrand retail and upto
100% in single brand retail. Given that 95% of the sector
constitutes unorganized retail consisting largely of „mom and pop‟
stores...

http://www.cedar-consulting.com/pdf/Retail%20FDI%20in%20Indi a.pdf
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