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Rajusk:


any update on this?
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2) renunciation of indian citizenship and obtaining surrender certificate (two weeks?)



ippudu gurtocchindhi.
when I applied for Indian visa (in year 2008), I submitted my Indian passport along with US passport. They cancelled my indian pp and sent it to me, along with u.s passport with visa. At that time, no such thing as surrender certificate.
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Vasista:


we have to do one after the other, right? because 2nd one need US passport; does 3rd one need 2nd one to complete?




I will give the sequence (my wife did this in the regular process unlike my emergency) in one hour
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1) Apply for US Passport on the same day at USCIS center or at the local post office (around 10 days, or 2 days if expedited)
TT: usualy, oath ceremony takes place in the big hall, high school auditorium. There, u.s postal folks will be present. You can apply u.s passport then and there itself
2) renunciation of indian citizenship and obtaining surrender certificate (two weeks?)
TT: I THINK, you dont need to do this, to get Indian visa or OCI or PIO card, but i am not sure
3) Then apply for Indian visa or PIO card (2 weeks for visa, or 4-5 weeks for PIO card?)
Yeah, something like that
does 3rd one need 2nd one to complete?}
as far as I know, NO
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on the day of oath, you can apply u.s passport (you can expedite the process as well).
once you get the u.s Passport, send that u.s pp to Indian consulate to get either indian visa or OCI card.




so the process is:
1) Apply for US Passport on the same day at USCIS center or at the local post office (around 10 days, or 2 days if expedited)
2) renunciation of indian citizenship and obtaining surrender certificate (two weeks?)
3) Then apply for Indian visa or PIO card (2 weeks for visa, or 4-5 weeks for PIO card?)

we have to do one after the other, right? because 2nd one need US passport; does 3rd one need 2nd one to complete?
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Whyme:

If anyone has Rajusk's phone no.. can you send it to psvgc at yahoo dot com
I can call and tell what i did (i dont remember some details but i went thru exact experience)




Thx twitter bro.. for responding soon.. I called rajugaru
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Vasista:

so, what should be the ideal process to get the indian visa immediately after getting the us citizenship. This information will be useful



on the day of oath, you can apply u.s passport (you can expedite the process as well).
once you get the u.s Passport, send that u.s pp to Indian consulate to get either indian visa or OCI card.
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too bad for the pain you went through mama..

so, what should be the ideal process to get the indian visa immediately after getting the us citizenship. This information will be useful.




well i sat on my ass ignoring to apply the passport for almost 1.5 years
ideally the moment you get citizenship apply for US passport and immediately send it to indian embassy for visa (they will multiple-entry stuff for long time).. my wife applied for citizenship so when we she got her us cit.. we did this immediately
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Whyme:

so i flew in early morning to washington, went to us passport office, got the passport then went to consulate, travisa, then back to consulate, then to airport and flew to India.. I am not recollecting the details of Indian visa running around.. but my wife was calling them on phone and doing the requesting




too bad for the pain you went through mama..

so, what should be the ideal process to get the indian visa immediately after getting the us citizenship. This information will be useful.
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Even Schwarzenegger has told his home country: "I'll be back... as President."


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If anyone has Rajusk's phone no.. can you send it to psvgc at yahoo dot com
I can call and tell what i did (i dont remember some details but i went thru exact experience)
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Oohlala:


U.S allows to many countries, but India does not.
http://www.ndtv.com/news/world/arnold_schwarzenegger_as_next _austrian_president.php
Hollywood's action legend Arnold Schwarzenegger could become the President of his home country Austria after his term as the Governor of California ends next year, a British newspaper has claimed.

Even Schwarzenegger has told his home country: "I'll be back... as President."

As he is prevented from running for American President because he wasn't born in the US, senior Austrian politicians have asked him to stand in the 2010 presidential elections if incumbent Heinz Fischer stands down,the Daily Star reported. Nikolaus Berlakovich of Austrian People's Party (VP) confirmed: "Yes, we are backing a Schwarzenegger candidacy. He is an excellent and extremely successful politician."

Officials have been tripping over themselves to voice their support for the 61-year-old, who has both American and Austrian citizenship
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Rajusk:

Dbers..

naaku telisina oka family friend ki US Citizenship undi..valid Indian passport undi anta..thana father chanipoyaru india lo ...an hour back...

what is the best way for her to go back to India at the earliest...




I went to India in similar situation 4 years back (I lot of it will depend on luck and timing as well)
US Passport in washington will give passport (if you go early in morning submit your application) they will give US passport by lunch/after-lunch time

Call Indian embassy tell them the emergency beforehand. I went to Indian embassy met the consular officer he listned to emergency initialled the form - asked me to go to travisa pay money and they did some paperwork, gave me passport back to me and asked me to go back to indian embassy with filled form and us passport.. i went to the counter and submitted the form.. begged the annoying lady to give me passport was i had to catch the flight in the evening

so i flew in early morning to washington, went to us passport office, got the passport then went to consulate, travisa, then back to consulate, then to airport and flew to India.. I am not recollecting the details of Indian visa running around.. but my wife was calling them on phone and doing the requesting
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@Rajusk- thana mother ni immediate ga pampinchatam best ee roju edho oka flight ki..thinu repu or worst case lo monday flight theesukovaali.
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mama, i posted the question in immigration board.. here is the answer:

"After taking the US Citizenship you can travel up to 90 days with your indian passport to india. After that if you use indian passport for travel they will charge a fine. Not sure what is the amount you can check on the indian consulate website. In this case you can travel up to 90 days on your indian passport. Getting the OCI can take up to 90 days from the date of approval. "

Here is the link:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/385292-applying-for- indian-visa-after-the-oath/
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Oohlala:

Both India and US do not allow dual citizenship, you have to give up one. US passport with OCI is the popular choice. Apply for a US passport, the day you get your citizenship and hopefully we don't have an emergency in those few weeks.


this is what I heard...meeru Palo Alto lo emanna work chesaara Gautami akkai...aaa roju Indian passport surrender chesi edchukuntoo office ki vachindhi meerenaa?
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Ledu andi Europe allows, not US.....afaik
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Oohlala:


US allows dual citizenship, but India does not.
Arnold has dual citizenship, He ran for Austrian president and lost.
Then came to usa and won as governor in california. (ofcourse, for governor, you dont need to be born citizen)
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Both India and US do not allow dual citizenship, you have to give up one. US passport with OCI is the popular choice. Apply for a US passport, the day you get your citizenship and hopefully we don't have an emergency in those few weeks.
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Rajusk:




Asaslu indulo problem emi vundi. They have valid US Citizenship. They should have the US passports. Just take the US passports and buy a ticket and go. The only issue is they need to go to Indian consulate to get a visa.

US citizenship teesukunnaka Indian passport Renunciation cheyinchali. Kaani ventane akkarledu. They can take their own time. 3 months lo cheyinchakapote next time they have to pay little extra money with fine. Anthe.
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Rajusk:



Raju garu, thread mottam chadava ledu. US citizenship ragane, Zindian passport is invalid. Does she have an US passport, if so Indian consulate can issue visitor visa in matter of hours....
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Maverick:

Usa allows duAl anukuntA so they will not ask u to cancel ur indian passport




dual is different than carrying 2 passports..
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Usa allows duAl anukuntA so they will not ask u to cancel ur indian passport
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oh avuna...aithe aa option light teesukonte better emo
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Rajusk:


Raju garu...Indian passport surrender cheyya kundaa citizen ship elaa ichaaru?
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sincie we dont have dual citizenship, it will be illegal to use Indian passport.
sometime ago, One Sardarjee was arrested in Canada
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if she had not cancelled Indian passport can she go then ?

Although it might be illegal?
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Rajusk:

I am not sure..how she has Indian passport even after getting US passport



Many countries have dual citizenships, that is why when she gets the u.s citizenship, it is not mandatory for her to surrender indian citizenship.
However, Indians should send the Indian passport to Indian consulates, who will stamp CANCELLED on all pages and cut 2 corners in the edge, to make it invalid.
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Vasista:


thanks guys for all the suggestions...


I am not sure..how she has Indian passport even after getting US passport...

The Indian embassy gives emergency visas on Saturday between 11 and 1. She missed that window..I think she came to know little later than that..
Sad part enti ante..her mother is also here...mother no alone pampinchadam ishtam leka also she wanted to go..Not sure what they decided...
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NY Indian embassy phone number: 212) 754-9900

Update here mama..
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Jodhaa:

Indian PP meedha travel chesthey issues em untaaye? India lo mana immigration status em check cheyyaru kada...also india vellaaka...she can go to American consulate and get her passport?



Once u get US citizenship u have to surrender u r indian passport..using indian passport is a criminal offense beinga diff country's citizen
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Indian PP meedha travel chesthey issues em untaaye? India lo mana immigration status em check cheyyaru kada...also india vellaaka...she can go to American consulate and get her passport?
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as a last chance, she can travel by india pp and wait there until she gets a us passport issued here, and travel back.
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http://www.immihelp.com/nri/indian-citizenship-renunciation- surrender-certificate/

I would take a chance and travel if i am not living in sfo or ny
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Mav,

too bad, may be passport servcew vaallan contact chesi situation explain cheysthey Monday temp passport dorakochu, same day she can get india visa and travel by Monday night. Highly unlikely though.
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if they live in the city, where they have indian embassy.. then can get the visa on the same day...
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?311588-Indian-v isa-after-us-citizen/page8

But i still hope/think they can travel over the weekend as this is emergency.. should be okay i guess. There is also an emergency number from Indian embassy in US.. Hope they don't have to struggle too much because of the visa stuff.
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arrest guda indian passport surrender seyyaledu ani vuntundi..procedure usa passport vachhaka before requesting dual citizen ship he need to nullyfy the indian pp...ippudu antha time ledu kanukua
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DC usa pasport lekapote enti paristhiti?
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 03:37 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wrong move, do not travel on indian passport.
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ee bongu bushanma antha pettukunte father ni miss avutadu..better to jump..face the consequences later ..worst lodesam lo arresr thappa emi vundadhu
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 03:36 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

indian passport surrender chesi undaru inka..american passport apply cheyaledemo inka..
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GC valid ga unte india passport meeda velli vaccheyachemo kada..ikkada return POE lo situation cheppi edo okati cheyyachu
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 03:32 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Same question as methati idli.... Her indian passport be ones invalid the moment she took US citizenship. She needs to get a US passort asap and then contact nearest indian consulate informing them about her emergency to get visa immediately.
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 03:28 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Rajusk:




she can travel on indian passport,no problem,only thing is vallu us visa unda,citizen ship unda GC unda ani enquiry chesthe problem,lekapothe indian passport tho velli US passport tho ravochu...

oka vela identify chesi indian visa ledu ante don't no what happens
cherapakura chedevu.
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 03:24 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ala ela valid Indian passport being a US citizen
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Rajusk
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Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 02:22 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dbers..

naaku telisina oka family friend ki US Citizenship undi..valid Indian passport undi anta..thana father chanipoyaru india lo ...an hour back...

what is the best way for her to go back to India at the earliest...

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