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Thikka_sankara
Comedian Username: Thikka_sankara
Post Number: 1734 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.174.44.243
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 12:21 pm: |
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hmm.... with the current understanding of mass and time.... we wouldnt be able to do time travel.... ani naa adi naa idi.... time travel would violate all our current understanding of time and space and mass..... sooo there should be other dimensions, understandings where time and space arent continous and mass isnt hard to convert into energy..... Naakonchem thikkundi.... daaaniko lekkundi |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 596 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.113.160
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 12:10 pm: |
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Vikramark:.we need to see the event of john buying the ticket..
To see the event you must travel through wormhole or black hole(future),if you travel through black hole.So,here you will only know about the event,but the event doesnt actually occur(we will be in future),as John and rest of the others in the world is still in present.So,the event is nullified and we are the only come to know that which number will win the lotto. Now coming to why do we want to time travel in future?Because we can know the possibility of events which will be occuring a glimpse at future could reveal how our life will unfold!So,to change the probability of events we will travel in future.To change the future as we like one will like to time travel! Though someone is time travelling(future) using wormhole or blackhole,rest of the people in the world will be running in present situation only! "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Vikramark
Junior Artist Username: Vikramark
Post Number: 910 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 14.99.100.79
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 05:09 am: |
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Gamingfan:inko probability enti ante athanikante munde manam ticket konali. ala jaragaboye event ni munde change(erase) cheyyochu.
johnl kante mundu manam ticket konataaniki manaki number theleedu kadaa....oka vela number thelavalante...we need to see the event of john buying the ticket.. aa event ni erase cheyyatam impossible.....manam kooda aa number thelsukuni due to john....aa number tho ticket konte....there will 2 events registered....ante megamillions vaadiki 200 million bokke kadaa? |
   
Ysrfan
Junior Artist Username: Ysrfan
Post Number: 226 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 76.173.223.196
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 02:00 am: |
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Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 583 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.102.182
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 12:30 am: |
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Vikramark:
Also,now coming to the concept of space relativity is such that a number of statements and results which we usually think to be absolute turn out to be observer-dependent. Now,depending on the above statement by we can come to the Hawking's assumption if there were 2 people say A and B they made a wormhole in January.A would travel at nearly the speed of light carrying one end of wormhole,while B will be waiting on the earth near the other end of wormhole......A would travel around the universe and comeback to earth....A would then go to other end of wormhole(say 4:00pm on march 21) and would comeout at 2:00 AM on march 19. This concept is very well explained by Stephen Hawking in his book "The Universe In A Nutshell." "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 582 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.102.182
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 12:13 am: |
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Vikramark:ante already future jarigina/manam choosina john incident erase ayyinattu...adi elaa sadhyam
future loki enduku travel chesedi adi change chesukodaniki. Here two probability of events occur! oka ticket ee untadi kabatti here another probability is oka vela john aa ticket konesina as we know the ticket number which will win the lotto so we can steal it from him. inko probability enti ante athanikante munde manam ticket konali. ala jaragaboye event ni munde change(erase) cheyyochu. "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Vikramark
Junior Artist Username: Vikramark
Post Number: 905 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 14.99.187.26
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 - 03:26 pm: |
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Gamingfan:anduke atanu vere number teeskovali and he will lose
nenu 2012 nundi 2014 velli John gelichina number vasthaa back to 2012.. 2014 lo aa number kontaa... ante already future jarigina/manam choosina john incident erase ayyinattu...adi elaa sadhyam |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 576 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.189
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 - 11:53 am: |
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Vikramark:..lets say we had gone into 2014....and we know what number won mega millions.....lets say John won it...now you come back 2012...obviously you will buy the same number once you progress to 2014...what will happen to the incident of John winning..
future loki travel ayyi number telusukuni vachi number konesina taruvata inka john gadu number konadaniki aa number undadu kada.' anduke atanu vere number teeskovali and he will lose and i will win the lotto
Vikramark:future lo john 200 million win ayyi
future lo john win avutadu ani telusukodanike time travel chesam aa number telisina taruvata athanikante mundu maname present loki vachi konestam kada. "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Sirfdiva
Junior Artist Username: Sirfdiva
Post Number: 84 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 76.210.69.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 - 10:20 am: |
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Vikramark:Anybody can prove me wrong
Antey this will happen when you see the news about John winning mega millions and come back and buy the same lottery with the same number, what you would have missed is the next days news paper with a correction note which says John and Vikramark won the lottery ani  |
   
Tilak
Side Hero Username: Tilak
Post Number: 7670 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.12.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 - 06:05 am: |
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Ishan:Warm hole endi papi...its wormhole
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Vikramark
Junior Artist Username: Vikramark
Post Number: 880 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 14.99.54.179
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 - 05:35 am: |
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Gamingfan:
Personally I think...future lo ki kaani past lo ki kaani travel anedi kashtam ani.... Anybody can prove me wrong future lo ki vellatam ante ...lets say we had gone into 2014....and we know what number won mega millions.....lets say John won it...now you come back 2012...obviously you will buy the same number once you progress to 2014...what will happen to the incident of John winning.. more importantly....future lo john 200 million win ayyi ...nuvvu kooda 200 million win ayyi....ante 2 times win avvatam ante...megamillions ki extra 200 million acounting lo bokka paduddi kadaa |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 570 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.102.6
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 - 12:55 am: |
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After a large thinking about time travel yesterday night while sleeping I had went through the concept of relativity by Einstein. According to the concept of Relativity time travel to the future is possible,as time is realtive and space and time are part of same fabric,a space-time continuum.So time travel to the future is also possible,we must think about possibilities how they can be implemented. "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Vikramark
Junior Artist Username: Vikramark
Post Number: 845 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 14.99.12.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 11:09 pm: |
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Papayya:
May be the only way to travel in time back and forth...is to jump into the worm hole |
   
Chillarodu
Side Hero Username: Chillarodu
Post Number: 2066 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.103.2.42
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 03:09 pm: |
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Chillarodu:I think Ishan meant IPad..
sorry my bad.. A diamond with a flaw is better than a common stone that is perfect. |
   
Chillarodu
Side Hero Username: Chillarodu
Post Number: 2065 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.103.2.42
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 03:08 pm: |
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Gamingfan:new comer
I think Ishan meant IPad... neverthe less your posts ar egood too A diamond with a flaw is better than a common stone that is perfect. |
   
Ipad
Comedian Username: Ipad
Post Number: 1082 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 03:07 pm: |
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Vikramark:Ipad, are you female?
Nee Typee... |
   
Chillarodu
Side Hero Username: Chillarodu
Post Number: 2064 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.103.2.42
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 03:07 pm: |
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Ipad:are you past member of this DB or a new comer?
Good Posts. A diamond with a flaw is better than a common stone that is perfect. |
   
Vikramark
Junior Artist Username: Vikramark
Post Number: 843 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 14.99.49.52
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 03:02 pm: |
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Ipad:
Ipad, are you female? |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 568 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 03:00 pm: |
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Ishan:btw, nice posts - are you past member of this DB or a new comer?
new comer currently pursuing my M.Tech! but following DB from last 4 or 5 years,member of many other forums! "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Ipad
Comedian Username: Ipad
Post Number: 1081 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:59 pm: |
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Vikramark:Is this some kind of einstein theory?
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Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 9647 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.201.146.48
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:58 pm: |
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Gamingfan: but the drawback of about my thinking is the particles would not necessarily behave as they did at that time.
If everything else in the universe is MADE to behave the way they behaved at that time point, the particles in question would behave exactly the way it did. But we cant control everything else in the universe. btw, nice posts - are you past member of this DB or a new comer?  A Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep - Tywin Lannister |
   
Vikramark
Junior Artist Username: Vikramark
Post Number: 842 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 14.99.49.52
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:47 pm: |
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Ipad:There is a possibility, but for a person traveling to another space and time pocket, it is current, where ever he lands. But before he does that he need to should all the mass of his native dimension, that is suited for native dimension, Then his conciseness, should attain new matter with mass, that suits the new dimension. This is only possible for highest spiritual entities who travel in space like cohesive and energy and can attain mass and shape on demand
Is this some kind of einstein theory? |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 565 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:45 pm: |
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here it is
Gamingfan:what i feel is we may travel into the past,by just moving all the particles back the way they were at the same time. but the drawback of about my thinking is the particles would not necessarily behave as they did at that time. there is another thing here lets say time travel is instantaneous and consider that some X person have to time travel(past) today at 4pm,if he does that he will not be in future anymore and his time will be cut-off to some extent.Now what about the volume that body used to occupy?His body is not there in future because he travelled back in time. I am just a starter about these theories so I am sorry if there are any mistakes about what I feel about time travel. There are some great scientists and I just hope it is possible one day!But for now I believe travelling in past with some drawbacks! In the future who knows we can travel in both past and future.
Vikramark:what are those drawbacks?
"The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Vikramark
Junior Artist Username: Vikramark
Post Number: 841 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 14.99.49.52
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:44 pm: |
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Gamingfan:yes with drawbacks
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Ipad
Comedian Username: Ipad
Post Number: 1080 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:43 pm: |
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Vikramark:so it is possible to travel back into past in a different space time zone
There is a possibility, but for a person traveling to another space and time pocket, it is current, where ever he lands. But before he does that he need to should all the mass of his native dimension, that is suited for native dimension, Then his conciseness, should attain new matter with mass, that suits the new dimension. This is only possible for highest spiritual entities who travel in space like cohesive and energy and can attain mass and shape on demand |
   
Aha
Comedian Username: Aha
Post Number: 1635 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 170.136.110.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:40 pm: |
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interesting thread har ik gham tumhaara sahenge khushi se karenge na shikwaa kabhi bhi kisi se |
   
Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 9645 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.201.146.48
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:38 pm: |
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Warm hole endi papi...its wormhole A Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep - Tywin Lannister |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 564 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:36 pm: |
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Vikramark:
Vikramark:so it is possible to travel back into past in a different space time zone
yes with drawbacks "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Vikramark
Junior Artist Username: Vikramark
Post Number: 840 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 14.99.49.52
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 02:33 pm: |
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Ipad:Yes Gami, its very complex. As every living being has a free will, - what i was telling is, past is nothing but, completed events perceived by entities , in each others presence. - At a specific space point and at a specific time, infinite possibilities are available between entities. Some possibilities happen, some not. - the only way to go back to time in the same space (i mean to get the perception) as u stated, we need to bring all entities, environment parameters in that space back, EXACTLY SIMILAR WAY. - Then the entities may feel they are in the past. BUT that is not their past. There is nothing called past/future that exists to travel. It is just the perception of accomplished possibilities b entities. People can also predict the next possible action of an entity out of a set of possibilities, using some science. past and future travel with in the same space+ time dimension is impossible, as they don't exist, everything is memories + current + possibilies.
very much believable...so it is possible to travel back into past in a different space time zone |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 550 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 01:49 pm: |
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Ipad:infinite
i think some of the concepts only exist in human imagination and they dont exist in reality.one of them is concept of infinity.there is nothing called infinite what i feel,for example as we learn more and more and completely everything then we come to know that infinite is not there.when infinite creeps out in mathematics it is usually sign of mistakes. "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Ipad
Comedian Username: Ipad
Post Number: 1073 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 01:23 pm: |
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Gamingfan:
Yes Gami, its very complex. As every living being has a free will, - what i was telling is, past is nothing but, completed events perceived by entities , in each others presence. - At a specific space point and at a specific time, infinite possibilities are available between entities. Some possibilities happen, some not. - the only way to go back to time in the same space (i mean to get the perception) as u stated, we need to bring all entities, environment parameters in that space back, EXACTLY SIMILAR WAY. - Then the entities may feel they are in the past. BUT that is not their past. There is nothing called past/future that exists to travel. It is just the perception of accomplished possibilities b entities. People can also predict the next possible action of an entity out of a set of possibilities, using some science. past and future travel with in the same space+ time dimension is impossible, as they don't exist, everything is memories + current + possibilies. |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 547 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 01:23 pm: |
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I have few more theories in which I have been thinking,I will post them tomorrow morning. ippudu paralu paralu type chesa opika ledu But the end of the day,nothing(theories or books) is mattered.The thing that matters is proving that in reality and showing it! There are various theories like butterfly effect,predetermination theory etc. I strongly believe it is possible to travel in the past for now,must think of other possibilities and how to travel in future! "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 545 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 01:07 pm: |
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Tifosi:Also, how do you account for the grandfather paradox Then again there is a possiblity of multidimensions
100% agree to this "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Tifosi
Junior Artist Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 680 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 01:02 pm: |
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In the future who knows we can travel in both past and future. If travelling to the past was possible...wouldnt we have see people from the future by now Also, how do you account for the grandfather paradox Then again there is a possiblity of multidimensions |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 544 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:53 pm: |
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Ipad:
what i feel is we may travel into the past,by just moving all the particles back the way they were at the same time. but the drawback of about my thinking is the particles would not necessarily behave as they did at that time. there is another thing here lets say time travel is instantaneous and consider that some X person have to time travel(past) today at 4pm,if he does that he will not be in future anymore and his time will be cut-off to some extent.Now what about the volume that body used to occupy?His body is not there in future because he travelled back in time. I am just a starter about these theories so I am sorry if there are any mistakes about what I feel about time travel. There are some great scientists and I just hope it is possible one day!But for now I believe travelling in past with some drawbacks! In the future who knows we can travel in both past and future. "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 542 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:25 pm: |
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great theory by Stephen Hawking(one of my fav astrophysicist) "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Ipad
Comedian Username: Ipad
Post Number: 1069 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:22 pm: |
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Gamingfan:
We may go to a different (space + time) zone in time travel. But with this Body, we cannot come and go in the same space zone in different times. This is technically wrong |
   
Gamingfan
Junior Artist Username: Gamingfan
Post Number: 541 Registered: 08-2012 Posted From: 59.93.112.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:20 pm: |
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Papayya:we near for time travel?
soon i think we will be "The only people who try to tell you that you can't do something,are the people who have failed." "Miss Anders...I din't recognize you with your clothes on." I AM NOT LAZY I JUST REST BEFORE I GET TIRED! LOVE IS THE SLOWEST FORM OF SUICIDE!
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Ipad
Comedian Username: Ipad
Post Number: 1067 Registered: 03-2011 Posted From: 12.10.219.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:18 pm: |
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Papayya:
CERN experiment only showed the possibility of existence of Higgs-Boson particle. It did not prove its existence. Time comes into existence from the moment a matter of the universe started attaining mass. Once they loose the mass, there is no past , future or present, every thing seems to happen is nOW. Any particle with mass present in one (space + time) zone cannot come to the same space zone belongs to past or future, leaving its present. If it has to it has to become a mass less. |
   
Papayya
Side Hero Username: Papayya
Post Number: 2229 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 170.63.96.108
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 11:25 am: |
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Warm holes are every where in space but they stay for very less time. So you enter you are done. You may end up in some other galaxy. Sare ee warm holes ni create cheyyocha ante.. Europe lo Collider experiment lo create ayyyayi big bang theory annadu.. ante are we near for time travel? Manasakshi ni champukoni brathakadam ki savam la bathakadam ki pedda teda ledu |