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Kukatpally
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Sanman:

taking away guns from good people



good ppl ki guns yendukandi... self defense ani cheppodu... good ayithe adi pani adu chesukuntadu with out getting involved in an situation

illegal guns prati desam lo vuntayi... that is inevitable dani kosam police work chestaru

legal ga gun vundali janam degaram ante inka convince avvalekapothunna

proper training vundadu, backgrd checks vundavu guns ichestaru... eelemo night clubs ki theaters ki temples ki patukelli kotha prodcut test chesinattu common harmless public meeda try chesi dobbutharu

mothaniki ani problems ki fed ye karanam antaru... good good prati state ki separate army set cheddam 50 states ni independent sesi dobbuthe ani problems solve ayipothayi inkenduku fed

btw topic us lo gun laws guronchi... india lo micro finance, land grabbing, police lo corruption gurinchi kaadu

mee thinking if no guns, authorities who have to protect peoples will turn corrupt and take side with evil ppl ane na... so we need guns to keep police/authorities in line

ee american gaalu fully paranoid... alaki slight ga bhyama putichi guns konukondi ra ante konesukuntaru

iran lo war start ayithe Alaska/North Dakota lo gun sales peruguthayi... connection 'self defense'.
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Kukatpally:

biggest BS and fear injected into american ppl and make them buy guns by NRA



Guns are for self protection and NRA working for people's safety
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/26/opinion/etzioni-guns/index.htm l
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ala ayithe prati problem state level lo solve chesesukochu kada fed meeda yedavatam yenduku janalu


thats how it started and thats when US was most prosperous. recessions and economic cycles started after the invention of federal reserve and centralized planning
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Kukatpally:

guns leni desam lo yevadiki bhayapadathav


lol India lo police, officials la tho chetulu kalipina land mafia/goondas vachi private properties lo jendaa paathadam gurinchi vinaledha ? microfinance company goondas vachi private residences lo chese aagadaala gurinchi vinaledha ?

Kukatpally:

semi automatic and automatic rifles


so your problem is with fire rate rather than guns themselves ? right now the states can decide which ones are legal. what is the problem you see with that ?

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pakka state ki poyi konukoni vachi kalchi dobbithe inkenduku aa state gun law.


gun laws unna countries lo guns leva ? gun control means taking away guns from good people. law ki bhayapadani vaadu gun ekkadaina konukkuntaadu
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Sanman:

self defense and crime deterrent



biggest BS and fear injected into american ppl and make them buy guns by NRA

guns leni desam lo yevadiki bhayapadathav
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Sanman:

taser/pepper spray/stun guns



ivvani guns antha dangerous aa.... self defense ki ivvani vadochu kada semi automatic and automatic rifles vunte gani defend chesukolera janam

guns complete ga public hands nundi teseste whom should we fear and why do we need rifles for self defense... appudu avasarame vundadu kada

guns problem national problem... shootings and mass murders, retard ppl and NRA lovers desam motham vunnaru fed handling it is appropriate... oka state vaadu kallu terichi guns bad ani realize ayi guns ban chesina pakka state ki poyi konukoni vachi kalchi dobbithe inkenduku aa state gun law.

ala ayithe prati problem state level lo solve chesesukochu kada fed meeda yedavatam yenduku janalu
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Kukatpally:

but gun ki only use hurt people


no. its primary use is self defense and crime deterrent. mee argument prakaaram taser/pepper spray/stun guns all should be illegal because they hurt people.

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ala kaadu semi automatic and automatic guns are for duck hunting ante gawd bless NRA and gun lovers


districts/states can decide what they deem necessary for self defense. why a central govt/federal mandate ?
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sanman annai gun valla inkemayina vupayogam septhav anukunna... katti sutti anta as it is side track lo speed ga yellipoyav

Any Machine/tool is dangerous when used to hurt people knife/scew driver etc

but gun ki only use hurt people

ala kaadu semi automatic and automatic guns are for duck hunting ante gawd bless NRA and gun lovers

plz malli screw driver gurincho, kite yegarese daram and dani dangers gurincho kakunda... gun valla oka use cheppu
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how easy and simple
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/11/justice/new-york-shooting/inde x.html?hpt=hp_t3
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Imagine in AP if YSRCP came to power :

You , being a NRI bought a 1 crore land in a decent area and then , the Cudapha gang came and will occupy the land. After all , all these people who support extremities like (TRS and Jagan) will need piece of wealth (OU JAC thinks they can occupy RFC..).. and govt will not support you , they support cuddapha gangs..and sakshit writes in news that "denial of bread and butter(your 1 crore land) to minorities and under-privilaged.

In that situation, if your home has a gun, it can atleast deter a little , of course in india anything can happen..

If you fear, then , after Tamilnadu express incident, no one should travel in trains.. if there are no guns, most american old people in villages may suffer..
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chudakundaane follow aipotunna ani fix aipoyara getafix gaaru. every news item i read i see it in that perspective



Nee volume control post chudu annai.. Nuvve eppav kada..principle meeda defend avvali fersonal whims meeda kaadu ani..nuvve seppi malli naku nene fix ayina ante nenem seppale?
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and remember, India's population is 4 times that of usa
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Jujung:

And more people die in India because of violence than any of the top gun-owning countries, if you include the periodic communal riots, maoist violence and terrorism




For example, year 2010 ....the figures themselves are astounding for Brits used to around 600 murders per year. In 2010 - the latest year for which detailed statistics are available - there were 12,996 murders in the US. Of those, 8,775 were caused by firearms
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crim e-us-state
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Getafix:

Nerchukunna principle ki personal touch ichi chudu..


chudakundaane follow aipotunna ani fix aipoyara getafix gaaru. every news item i read i see it in that perspective
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Principle ni blind ga follow kaatam kaadu. Nerchukunna principle ki personal touch ichi chudu.. you will be surprised to see that there is more to issues than political ideaolgy.. rest nee volume control and decision making in dilemma.
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Jujung:

if there is one thing that we can learn from the US, that is the primacy of individual freedom. Even if that leads to failure occasionally. Even if that offends others every now and then.



occasionally? Gun shootings have become annual fare in US boss..Last 5 years lo around half a dozen mass shootings happened and isolated killings of innocent due to gun violence stats are rising by the day. Lets not extrapolate individual freedom to Guns.. Guns are bad thing to society.Period.
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Getafix:

then your political ideology should be fool proof..


It is
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Jujung:

So, it's silly to think more guns automatically imply more violence.




It might be silly to say more guns means more violence, but its not silly to say that more damage is done in case of gun violence than a non-gun violence. i think most people agree that there are violent people every where, so why aid these people more.

I do not think most people want to take away guns, but take away guns that can kill vast number of people in fractions of seconds!!

by the way, switzerland is fourth in the list, do we want to take about yemen which is third in the list? its as selective a sample as switzerland!!, granted we all understand the socio-economical situations lead to desperate actions by individuals, and as a group desperate individuals, humans are less than psychopathic in nature in a group. when provided with stronger tools, they are more than often used in negative ways than positive ways.

Im all for personal freedom, but hiding under the guise of "guns for defense" irks me. guns are for killing, there is no other way about it. if majority wants them, give to them, but if majority dont want them, then they should be taken away!! after all we do want to protect normal individuals, before we can protect their freedom.



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india lo we have grown up with the idea of a paternalistic govt - which is expected to control/provide for everything from cooking gas cylinders to high tech stuff.



you are very right about this, on the other extreme we have other groups of people which do not believe in democracy or other types of governance, with more fractured societies. individual freedom is ripe in these areas, ofcourse at the expense of phsyical and emotional danger to others, but hey these laws against such acts are also part of curtailing freedom of individuals in a way.

you are also right about culture and tradition, which every one seems to be very proud when it matters to them, but to me these are as hypocritical in nature as the traditions that were discarded by respective groups when not suited to them.
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Telugu_times:

The United States has twenty times the number of gun homicides per capita as Britain and Australia, ten times as many as India, four times as many as Switzerland




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_ownership_rate

Switzerland has a very high gun ownership rate. So does many other countries with little gun-violence. So, it's silly to think more guns automatically imply more violence. The reason India does not have guns is because it's a colony till late 50s and our Govt just followed the colonial laws. And more people die in India because of violence than any of the top gun-owning countries, if you include the periodic communal riots, maoist violence and terrorism.

Whether to have guns or not is more an issue of *culture* and *tradition*. Say, in punjab with traditional military families, you see lot more guns than rest of india. And sikhs are in fact "required" to carry a dagger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan) - again because of tradition.

india lo we have grown up with the idea of a paternalistic govt - which is expected to control/provide for everything from cooking gas cylinders to high tech stuff. 60 years of following this led to only erosion of social responsibility, civic sense, more starvation and squalor all around. This is precisely because of the mindset that if everything is going to be taken care of by the center, we all need not do anything and even if anyone wanted to do, the system wouldn't let them. And all around continuous erosion of individual freedoms. Only when people have the freedom, they will know responsibility and dignity. Else, everything is up for grabs as there is no moral compass any more.

if there is one thing that we can learn from the US, that is the primacy of individual freedom. Even if that leads to failure occasionally. Even if that offends others every now and then.

Whether republicans fight against it in the cultural space or democrats fight against it in the economic space, the mainstream is still moving towards greater respect for the individual in all spheres.
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Sanman:

ok...so if someone smaller than you is fighting you you want to do something about it but you think a fair fight is violent. sounds like double standards




neeku ala ardham ayyindha.. sare. nuvu ala anukunte nenu cheyagaligindhi emi ledhu. im a double standard guy.

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Mental_sachinodu:

if a guy half my size is hitting me, im sure i can stop him.


ok...so if someone smaller than you is fighting you you want to do something about it but you think a fair fight is violent. sounds like double standards
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article lifted ayina sare.. point meeda standing andi.
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Getafix:

zakaria kurrod rocks anthe




Zulu:

Aripinchadu..
I am big fan of Farid's GPS




http://news.yahoo.com/zakaria-suspended-copying-other-writer s-205723178.html
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Telugu_times:

cars main purpose is for transportation whereas guns main purpose is to kill people


guns main purpose is to kill ante konukkune prathi vaadu sampeddam ani konukkontaada. alaa aithe gun control leni desaallo andaru sachipoye vaallu ee paatiki
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Sanman:

next time you get speeding ticket ask the judge to ban all cars in your town



He will laugh at me and say...cars main purpose is for transportation whereas guns main purpose is to kill people and NRA brain washed these gun owners.
Then I will say to judge: who are you to comment on NRA
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Next time you get a speeding ticket, tell your logics to the cop and then to the judge.


next time you get speeding ticket ask the judge to ban all cars in your town
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Sanman:

mana ration shop laaga na. its fascinating that you want someone in charge of deciding what you need to purchase



Next time you get a speeding ticket, tell your logics to the cop and then to the judge.
DB lo, easy nay.
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Manishi ki, oka gun icchesi...5-6 rounds isthey sari pothundhi.


mana ration shop laaga na. its fascinating that you want someone in charge of deciding what you need to purchase. even before US independence guns were not illegal. even in India they were not illegal before british banned them

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gurudwaaralloki, theatres loki, universities loki


if i am not wrong they are banned in all of the above. your problem seems to be number of guns rather than guns themselves. oka gun tho police lu vache lopu entha mandhini champina ok annattu undhi
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pichandi..pichi
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Manishi ki, oka gun icchesi...5-6 rounds isthey sari pothundhi.
freedom, rights, constitution anukuntaaa...common sense ni pakkana pedithey...okokkadu ara dozen guns attukosthaadu, gurudwaaralloki, theatres loki, universities loki. There is no shortage of hatred in this world.
race, religion, gender, nationality, sekshual orientation, mannu mashaanam...
aaa madhya Pittsburg lo oka thellodu (I.T guy), no woman is dating me ani, Ladies gym ki velli, ladies ni kaalchi paaresindu.
Prathokkadiki dozens dozens guns isthaaranta, mallee full restrictions anta, concealed laws anta, gun free areas anta, ye gun lo nunchi bullet vacchindho thelusukunay technology vaddhanta?
NRA gaallara, evadi chevilo poolu peduthaaru baabu?
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so if a guy half your size starts kicking you for no reason, do you call the cops or push him away ? even pushing someone is a form of violence




according to you, if he is half my size, he wont hit me :D

if a guy half my size is hitting me, im sure i can stop him.
pushing violent, touch violent ante chinna pillal argument sesthunattu untadhi. we both know where this discussion is heading.
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its almost as if you dont want to be violent, you are foolish!!


so if a guy half your size starts kicking you for no reason, do you call the cops or push him away ? even pushing someone is a form of violence
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all that violence by bhagat singh and alluri seems mindless.




it is still violence. you cant escape from it. it is still wrong to kill a person, for his convictions. i might kill some person tomorrow, for a very sane reason, like he is trying kill me, but at the end of the day i was still violent!!
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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yes, to me there is not much difference. act of violence is as psychological as physical.


there lies the difference. all that violence by bhagat singh and alluri seems mindless. abba adhi foreign aggression anaku. this is foreign aggression too just foreign to your person.
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violence ki self defense ki theda teliyakunda matladtunnattu undhi




yes, to me there is not much difference. act of violence is as psychological as physical.
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its almost as if you dont want to be violent, you are foolish!!


violence ki self defense ki theda teliyakunda matladtunnattu undhi
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balam unna vaadidhe raajyam.




yes, as long as this perspective does not change, people will always want to holder the bigger stick, and until then we will always think that violence is the only way to resolve things.

People made up some dumb rules that if someone hurts me physically, they can be punished by some powers. they dont realize that someone could hurt you because you are weak. kaani same bala vanthudi ninchi malli protection kooda kaavali, instead why dont we go back to the days, where we stive to be strongest than todays living to be the richest.

why do peope want to get way from nuclear bombs, let every one have them in their homes, dhaaniki mathram sanctions kavaali.

its almost as if you dont want to be violent, you are foolish!!
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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hey u all....amirikaa lo maanchi naatu tupaaki ekkada dorukuddi?
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car ki 1000 other positive points cheppochu... tell me one for gun


ippudu evaru tayaaru cheyali list edhi entha avasaramo adhi unchi migilindihi govt ban cheyamantava. katti rendu rakaalugaa vaadochu. ban cheddaama mari. you look at gun as a killing tool. a billion others look as a defensive tool. everyday i read newspapers in India it is about oppression and dependence on immoral cops. balam unna vaadidhe raajyam. there are cases clearly even in India 50% crime will be reduced if guns are legal for non wealthy. land kabjalu halfthalu extortions ivanni aagipothai ani kaadhu. at least weak will have a fighting chance against those who have guns. 2nd amendment and bill of rights are not just limited to US. wherever constitution has been written for real men by real men giving respect to their own citizens, guns are legal
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idi db lo thegedi kadu..

DB lo sanman kurrod migh be alone..but bayata 50% exactly argue like sanman..remaining 50% talk like us..

and both camps have a ready made well defined argument..time brokka thappithey..
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Sanman:

excellent. so if someone drives under influence and kills someone else do you want to take away cars from everyone because they "could" kill someone with a car ?



car ki 1000 other positive points cheppochu... tell me one for gun

gun killing ki tappa deniki panikostadi cheppandi... self protection ani cover sestaru... if no one has gun yevariki bhayapadali

drink and drive ki police patrolling chesi control chestunna range lo kuda guns falling into retard hands ni control cheyyalekapothunnaru

simple answer this which is more dangerous car or a gun forget about driving under influence or retard handling a gun

guns ammukodaniki techina argument more ppl die in car accidents than gun shootings ani... usage of cars>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>guns so obvious ga accidents avuthayi people die... gun use chesina prati sari people die
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dakkani bahamani andhrite
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From Delhi, Via Mudinepalli
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Kukatpally:

gun in the hands of a retard = person dirving under influence


excellent. so if someone drives under influence and kills someone else do you want to take away cars from everyone because they "could" kill someone with a car ?

Getafix:

kill the root cause


gun is the tool. root cause kill chesina India lanti societies nundi nerchukovalemo guns endhuku ivvakudadho public ki so only people like can have a license
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9-11 jariginappudu, there were more conversions into that religion than normal times.
monna colorado lo, gun sales increased anta.
India lo, corruption issue kaadhu
usa lo, guns issue kaadhu.
evari picchi vaallaki anandham.
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Sanman:

nuvvu thaagi accident cheste nee oollo andari dls cancel cheyamantava


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Getafix:

Our point is - kill the root cause i.e take away guns from civilian society.. a gun free society will see far less damage even when a normal guy goes insane and goes out to do something damaging..as simple as that.




no the root of the problem is the deranged person, so kill all deranged persons
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Our point is - kill the root cause i.e take away guns from civilian society.. a gun free society will see far less damage even when a normal guy goes insane and goes out to do something damaging..as simple as that.
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Sanman:

sure. both can be used as a tool to hurt others intentionally



DL tho yevadini samputhav... DL is like ur gun license (simple paper/doc)

gun = driving
gun in the hands of a retard = person dirving under influence
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Kukatpally:

DL - Guns okatena


sure. both can be used as a tool to hurt others intentionally
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enti ee blog inka cnn site lo unda ninna adi retract and remove from the site annaru due to the backlash
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ardham kaaledhaa leka asalu alantivi emi levaa. nenu cheppedhi personal principles kaadhu underlying principle that formulates your political ideas.




the way i see it - you and I are on diff sides of aisle.Nee so called principle that formulated your political ideology is not absolute.If it is - then your political ideology should be fool proof.. same can be said about mine. So validating ante navvochindi.
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drivers license analogy - taking away everyone's dl since some people are driving under influence





DL - Guns okatena
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as long as they are not interfering with others


adhi individual level lo chustaaru. mana culture lo group mentality baaga alavaatu aindhi manaku. minorities aithe oka right union member aithe inko right doctors ki separate rights ilaa anni groups laa chusi mana mindset alaa ayyindhi. nuvvu thaagi accident cheste nee oollo andari dls cancel cheyamantava
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prathi psycho gaaniki, dozens dozens guns isthey...
malls lo, theatres lo, nee life, naa life at their mercy.
guns icchey mundhu unday interest, background checks..okasaari gun icchina tharuvaatha untundhaa? colorado gaadiki psychiatric problems vacchinai. Did the doctor's office connected directly to gun shops or authorities to raise a red flag?


please explain how that would have prevented the okc bombings
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We should keep track of people who espouse hatred and violence, but let�s be honest, this isn�t a strategy likely to succeed in a free society of 300 million people


itlaa untai left gaalla aalochanalu. china model entha baagundhi ani antunnaadu bakaria gaadu

Telugu_times:

Those kinds of villains exist everywhere.


simplistic view of crimes and criminals. someone becomes a "villain" after the fact. someone who is perfectly normal today may be a violent psychopath a few years later. taking away their tools is taking away the tools from those that want to defend themselves from these "villains"
another fallacy of national media is they tend to nationalize the issues as well. 2nd amendment prohibits federal govt from passing gun control laws, not the states. but since cnn cannot have different opinions in different states, it is just convenient for them to look at things at national level
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Sanman:

my principle is less govt initiated interference in citizens private lives as long as they are not interfering with others. do you see the relevance of that to gun rights ?



prathi psycho gaaniki, dozens dozens guns isthey...
malls lo, theatres lo, nee life, naa life at their mercy.
guns icchey mundhu unday interest, background checks..okasaari gun icchina tharuvaatha untundhaa? colorado gaadiki psychiatric problems vacchinai. Did the doctor's office connected directly to gun shops or authorities to raise a red flag?
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Getafix:

validity of principles.


ardham kaaledhaa leka asalu alantivi emi levaa. nenu cheppedhi personal principles kaadhu underlying principle that formulates your political ideas.

Getafix:

So Guns issue lo govt interference is okay antav since citizens intefering with other people's lives. Nice!


no states allow selling guns to convicted criminals or do you want to take away guns from everyone because some people misused it ? drivers license analogy - taking away everyone's dl since some people are driving under influence
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Sanman:

so we can talk about the validity of principle instead of your personal correctness.




validity of principles.

Sanman:

my principle is less govt initiated interference in citizens private lives as long as they are not interfering with others.




So Guns issue lo govt interference is okay antav since citizens intefering with other people's lives. Nice!
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sanamn kurrod kosam aiting.



think of values as volume controls. if you are not basing it on principle, you are adjusting each of those controls according to your taste - for others. no one knows what your preference is or how you respond to a dilemma. so first base it on a principle, not a whim so we can talk about the validity of principle instead of your personal correctness. my principle is less govt initiated interference in citizens private lives as long as they are not interfering with others. do you see the relevance of that to gun rights ?
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sanamn kurrod kosam aiting.. friday afternoon..maanchi topic thred idhi. inga kurrod osthe ringa ringa roses aadochu.
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odiyemmaa avi emannaa TV laa exchange sesukodaaniki


kikiki...edayina oka gun show ki attend avvu telusthundi. Pedda convention hall book chesi, used books padesinatlu tables paina thupakilu ishtam vachinatlu padesi untaaru.
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inthakamundu effudu feddaga inaledu ....oka one week ninchi radio lo oak ad thega vasthaa undi....."celebreate ur 2nd amendment rights.....buy guns while you can" ani guns ki ethega ads vasthundi........buy, sell, exchange anta.....odiyemmaa avi emannaa TV laa exchange sesukodaaniki
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So when someone tells you that the Second Amendment means people can carry weapons that can fire a hundred bullets a minute, tell them they dont know their American history



Aripinchadu..

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The U.S. Department of Defense defines terrorism as âthe calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.â By that definition â by any definition really â the brutal killings at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin was an act of terrorism. Washington should react to it as it would to any other act of terrorism, by asking what we could do to prevent further acts like it.

It is certainly worth focusing on the killer, his motives, and his background. But there are thousands of people like him â white supremacists, neo-Nazis, fanatics of various types. We should keep track of people who espouse hatred and violence, but letâs be honest, this isnât a strategy likely to succeed in a free society of 300 million people. Many people spew hateful speech. The vast majority of them donât go out and kill innocent men, women, and children. Weâre not going to be very good at guessing who will and who wonât.

Besides, as Iâve said before, do we really have more fanatics, hate-filled Neo-Nazis than other countries? Probably not. Those kinds of villains exist everywhere. But we do have much higher rates of gun violence than any other rich country and thatâs because we have many more guns. The United States has twenty times the number of gun homicides per capita as Britain and Australia, ten times as many as India, four times as many as Switzerland. We are in a league of our own when it comes to gun violence. No other country even comes close.


Any effort to do something about the widespread availability of guns runs up against the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which says, âA well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.â But that amendment wasnât seen as a barrier to gun control for almost a century and a half.

Laws banning the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813, and other states soon followed: Indiana (1820), Tennessee and Virginia (1838), Alabama (1839), Ohio (1859). Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas explained in 1893, the âmission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man.â

In 1934, a comprehensive law controlling guns was passed by Congress. It was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1939, in U.S. v. Miller, in which Franklin Delano Rooseveltâs solicitor general, Robert H. Jackson, argued that the Second Amendment is ârestricted to the keeping and bearing of arms by the people collectively for their common defense and security,â meaning the army. Furthermore, Jackson said, the language of the amendment makes clear that the right âis not one which may be utilized for private purposes, but only one which exists where the arms are borne in the militia or some other military organization provided for by law and intended for the protection of the state.â The Supreme Court agreed, unanimously.

All this changed in starting in the 1970s and '80s as part of an organized movement led by special interests like the National Rifle Association. Reflecting on it, former Chief Justice Warren Burger â a conservative appointed by Richard Nixon â said that the new interpretation of the Second Amendment was âone of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word âfraud,â on the American public by special-interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.â

So when someone tells you that the Second Amendment means people can carry weapons that can fire a hundred bullets a minute, tell them they donât know their American history

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