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Okatelugodu
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Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 820
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 199.43.32.86
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 10:21 am: | 
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Rajusk:NYC?
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Rajusk
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Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 982
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 66.93.90.250
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 10:17 am: |
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Okatelugodu:Well I have been with ibs for quite some time.
Where do you work now?..NYC? |
Okatelugodu
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Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 819
Registered: 02-2008
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Rajusk:Most of the investment banks do...they charge $5 per hour and you can direct with the preferred vendor..Unfortunately my scope of knowledge is limited to the investment banking industry...vere areas lo etla untundo naaku telvad
Well I have been with ibs for quite some time. It's my personal experience too. Also, 5$ or 2$, you just echoed what I said..that they only prefer people coming in from perferred vendors  , obviously for a reason. |
Jkm
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Username: Jkm
Post Number: 377
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 216.235.145.222
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Jodhaa:GC/Citizenship vuntey pilichi 100$/hour isthaaru ani kaaadu andi Ikkada meaning...Let me explain with one example..
Naaku thelisina oka friend ki valla vendor pays 100$ to his employer..a friend e DB athaney..but he gets 70$ for per hour becs he has to share with employer on 70-30Basis. Lets say if the same person has GC he will get that 100$ directly into his pocket right? Thats what people are saying here..anthe kaani GC vundi kada ani evadu 100$ ivvadu..having GC you are able to getrid off few layers btw u & ur client..Thats end...
yeah . thats true. naaku thelsina kontha mandi GC holders ki $100/hr vastundi. GC vache time ki sagam musalallu ayipotharu. family, kids , house vuntayi. moving difficult. so perm job lo settle ayipotharu. perm job ante chala mandiki i say 50 to 70% ki edugu bodugu leni jeevitham.
konthamandi monday to thursday client place lo work chestharu. they make good money as you said. also depends on skill set and technology. obviously having GC is better than employer bonded H1. H1 singles ki advantage enti ante they are ready to move any where for better salary. 5,6 years consulting lo work chesi alisi poyi most people prefer perm job.
Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
Rajusk
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Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 981
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 66.93.90.250
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Okatelugodu:Majority of big companies dont directly work with a consultant on 1099 or a corp-corp basis. They all have primary vendors that no one can avoid with or without GC. These primary vendors obviously get there, because they have a golf-course relationship that came handy . But I agree with you employer tho H1 relationship vunte people end up having more layers..
Most of the investment banks do...they charge $5 per hour and you can direct with the preferred vendor..Unfortunately my scope of knowledge is limited to the investment banking industry...vere areas lo etla untundo naaku telvad |
Rajusk
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Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 980
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 10:10 am: |
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Simba:You are just as happy at 120K as 200K, so enjoy every moment of the life, still aiming to make more money.
Happiness is just a state of mind...you can only wish Money can buy it... |
Okatelugodu
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Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 818
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 199.43.32.86
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Jodhaa:Lets say if the same person has GC he will get that 100$ directly into his pocket right?
Majority of big companies dont directly work with a consultant on 1099 or a corp-corp basis. They all have primary vendors that no one can avoid with or without GC. These primary vendors obviously get there, because they have a golf-course relationship that came handy . But I agree with you employer tho H1 relationship vunte people end up having more layers... |
Mclovin
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Username: Mclovin
Post Number: 5918
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 69.45.100.129
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Jodhaa:Adhey vendor ki chesthey?
Vendor ki client 100 pay chestadi. Neeku vendor 70 istaadu. Adhe nuv davirect gaa Client ki pani chestaa ante, client neeku 70 istadi. (+/- 5 dollars).
In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  |
Simba
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Username: Simba
Post Number: 31
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 206.210.17.33
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Jodhaa:Lets say if the same person has GC he will get that 100$ directly into his pocket right?
OK, he will get $100/hour directly. But, who is his employer? Any employer has to take a big cut. If he is self-employed (1099 or S-Corp), he still have to pay employer taxes, payroll taxes and other office expenses, which effectively brings down to $70/hr. |
Jodhaa
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Username: Jodhaa
Post Number: 3462
Registered: 02-2008
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Mclovin:If vendor, 100 istaaru. If direct 70 istaaru.
Adhey vendor ki chesthey?
No one can make you feel inferior without your permission, remember they are no better |
Mclovin
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Username: Mclovin
Post Number: 5917
Registered: 02-2008
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Jodhaa:Lets say if the same person has GC he will get that 100$ directly into his pocket right?
Thats not right. Client or vendor will how you are working, ie. GC meeda direct aa leka via vendor aa ani. If vendor, 100 istaaru. If direct 70 istaaru.
In this db, there's always someone watching you!! |
Okatelugodu
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Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 817
Registered: 02-2008
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Jkm:checklist job. i don't think so. it depends.
JKM, that was a quote from Cylone which I disagreed. Not what I said |
Jodhaa
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Rajusk:You are not alone....
No one can make you feel inferior without your permission, remember they are no better |
Jodhaa
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Username: Jodhaa
Post Number: 3460
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Jkm:GC, citizenship vunte 100/hour anedi myth.
GC/Citizenship vuntey pilichi 100$/hour isthaaru ani kaaadu andi Ikkada meaning...Let me explain with one example..
Naaku thelisina oka friend ki valla vendor pays 100$ to his employer..a friend e DB athaney..but he gets 70$ for per hour becs he has to share with employer on 70-30Basis. Lets say if the same person has GC he will get that 100$ directly into his pocket right? Thats what people are saying here..anthe kaani GC vundi kada ani evadu 100$ ivvadu..having GC you are able to getrid off few layers btw u & ur client..Thats end...
No one can make you feel inferior without your permission, remember they are no better |
Simba
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Username: Simba
Post Number: 29
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 206.210.17.33
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:55 am: |
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My wife and I are both employed good for past 10 years and crossed the household income of 200K few years ago. From my experience, that number is not as big as you imagine.
Double-Income-No-Kids (••••) and living in apartment were golden days of saving. Once we got a kid and house (mortgage), you could hardly save. Moreover, your lifestyle changes along with expenses, supporting family back in India and occasional big ticket items will just break even the paycheck(s).
My suggestion. You are just as happy at 120K as 200K, so enjoy every moment of the life, still aiming to make more money. |
Jkm
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Username: Jkm
Post Number: 376
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 216.235.145.222
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:53 am: |
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Okatelugodu:Full time lo oka stage vacchaka.. like a manager... its just a checklist job... pani ayyinda leda... or vaadu sarigga settunnada ledha.. itta untayi jobs. Mostly management jobs... andhulo tracking pani ekkuva than anything else.
checklist job. i don't think so. it depends. there are different types of managers and companies.
my manager and director also do design/coding. attend/conduct meetings. support midnight calls. part of the reason i am not growing is because sometimes i don't want to be in his shoes.
Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
Rajusk
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Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 975
Registered: 02-2008
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Jkm:cha jeevitham. 13 years nunchi kottu kontunnanu. andaru ladder meeda piki ekkutharu. nenu kindaki diguthunnanu. B.tech ayina 15 days ke job lo join ayina. appudu nunchi break lekunda life lo swim chestunna. ayina ippudu 75K/year vastondi. bacha gallani adigithe $100/ hour antunnaru. 6 years nunchi GC vundi. GC, citizenship vunte 100/hour anedi myth. unless you are in SAP and tools. or money minded and badly want to make money. most people settle with full time job. family vuntundi. kids vuntaru. so consulting risk theesukoru. ofcourse it depends. naalanti stable mind lekunda technologies, jobs, places change chese vaadiki reasons vere vuntayi. 200k ela sampadistharu ? manager ,director or vice president avvali. sampadinchalante company pettali. broker panulu cheyyali. ala chestane sampadistaru. konthamandiki edi pattu kunte adi bangaram avuthundi. nenu edi pattukunna adi boggu avuthundi. naalantollu evarina vunnara ?
80% 200k exaggerated. 100K ani cheppi vunte bagundedi emo. mostly doctors vuntaru 200k tho.
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Okatelugodu
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Username: Okatelugodu
Post Number: 816
Registered: 02-2008
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Cylonesubbarao:Full time lo oka stage vacchaka.. like a manager... its just a checklist job... pani ayyinda leda... or vaadu sarigga settunnada ledha.. itta untayi jobs. Mostly management jobs... andhulo tracking pani ekkuva than anything else.
Nuvvu cheppindi QA manager type lo vundi or just manager for manager sake annattu vundi. Naaku telisi oka stage ki vachaka nuvvu cheppinattu tracking cheskuntoo pothe it will be difficult to sustain in the long run and atleast in US and peers will just move upwards where as the person is stuck. Atleast dev vaipu, the more senior you become if really want to make good money, you should be willing to work longer hours, maintain relationships with business, constantly overcome politics of workplace, direct reports ni jagrathaga duvvatam at the same time stay on top of firm wide initiatives ila chala thathangam and more importantly always try to be handson and be ready to jump in when needed. Bottomline you don't have any time left..Atleast that is what I observe. |
Jkm
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Username: Jkm
Post Number: 375
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 08:58 am: |
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Chiru_fan:Jkm maama, yendi maree ilaa ayithee yelaa? Indra, SSR type background pettukoni yemitee kashtaalu....
faction brackground ledu. padiyappan(narasimha ) la malli vijrumbistha
Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
Jkm
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Username: Jkm
Post Number: 374
Registered: 02-2008
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so far max i could get as a java consultant was 55/hr on 1099 after 2 layers . that was last year. I had location restriction. I think back in 2001, my client billing rate was 90/hr. i was getting $80k salary with benefits.
Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
Chiru_fan
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Username: Chiru_fan
Post Number: 335
Registered: 04-2008
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Jkm maama, yendi maree ilaa ayithee yelaa? Indra, SSR type background pettukoni yemitee kashtaalu....
Mera puranaa naam...Idlebrain_fan |
Chiru_fan
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Username: Chiru_fan
Post Number: 334
Registered: 04-2008
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/Full time lo oka stage vacchaka.. like a manager... its just a checklist job... pani ayyinda leda... or vaadu sarigga settunnada ledha.. itta untayi jobs. Mostly management jobs... andhulo tracking pani ekkuva than anything else./
Rao garu, the job description you mentioned is good for nothing...if that comnpany has to lay off people, then the so called managers would be the first ones on the road...atu technology thoo touch pooyi, itu management loo high ladders (director and above) ekka leka...kukka saavu sasthaaru...
and what would be the fun in life without a challenging work...I saw so many dumb as* managers in my career...and all of these guys didn't did anything exceptional that anyone of us coudn't do....
Mera puranaa naam...Idlebrain_fan |
Jkm
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Username: Jkm
Post Number: 373
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 98.192.47.28
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 07:48 am: |
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cha jeevitham. 13 years nunchi kottu kontunnanu. andaru ladder meeda piki ekkutharu. nenu kindaki diguthunnanu. B.tech ayina 15 days ke job lo join ayina. appudu nunchi break lekunda life lo swim chestunna. ayina ippudu 75K/year vastondi. bacha gallani adigithe $100/ hour antunnaru. 6 years nunchi GC vundi. GC, citizenship vunte 100/hour anedi myth. unless you are in SAP and tools. or money minded and badly want to make money. most people settle with full time job. family vuntundi. kids vuntaru. so consulting risk theesukoru. ofcourse it depends. naalanti stable mind lekunda technologies, jobs, places change chese vaadiki reasons vere vuntayi. 200k ela sampadistharu ? manager ,director or vice president avvali. sampadinchalante company pettali. broker panulu cheyyali. ala chestane sampadistaru. konthamandiki edi pattu kunte adi bangaram avuthundi. nenu edi pattukunna adi boggu avuthundi. naalantollu evarina vunnara ?
80% 200k exaggerated. 100K ani cheppi vunte bagundedi emo. mostly doctors vuntaru 200k tho.
Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. |
Dinosaur
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Username: Dinosaur
Post Number: 440
Registered: 03-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:11 am: |
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Unkown,
// who will give 100 dollars per hour and allow that person to spend time in DB during work hours..//
ma friend gani offcial vendor charge $124/hour but his employer gets only $70. there are 2 other layers in between. if you can avoid those additional layers, you can get even more. in this case, just because my friend's emploter gets only $70, it doesn't mean that he is paid less. whether his employer gets $70 or $100 (if avoids 2 layers), his work load doesn't change. he can happily spend time in DB |
Jodhaa
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Post Number: 3438
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:51 pm: |
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Sagar:
Ikkada cheppedhi Household income...single person dhi kaadu
No one can make you feel inferior without your permission, remember they are no better |
Movie_fan
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Username: Movie_fan
Post Number: 158
Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 71.202.104.28
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:32 pm: |
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"if someone has to earn 200K means his billing rate should be at least 100 dollars." ehe okkallu kuda point ardham cheskoru... its per family... its not per person... 2 pay checks vasthunte its very much possible... 80% is exaggeration. Period!
PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN WITH INDIAN MENTALITY |
Unknown
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 03-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:26 pm: |
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Cylonesubbarao:
maybe true for GCs and citizens (I mean desi citizens)..if someone has to earn 200K means his billing rate should be at least 100 dollars..who will give 100 dollars per hour and allow that person to spend time in DB during work hours..its very difficult..if he dares to do Dbing then he is risking that job and won;t sustain for long in that..:-))
"Those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything." - George Bernard Shaw |
Sagar
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Username: Sagar
Post Number: 2307
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:22 pm: |
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see guys.... SAP lo contractor ga chetshey exp vuntey u can make 100+ billing per hour.. kaani yr long vundadhu ga project... madya madyalo gap lu vuntaayi.. so overall ga 200K per anum kastamm...
SAP lo pedda consulting company daggara( IBM or accenture....ilaa.. ) full time join ayithey... vaalu SAP tech ki 85 to 120K istaaaaru exp batti...
Functional vaalaku 100K to 140K varaku istaaru......
200K Gaadidha M kooda ivvaru  |
Cylonesubbarao
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:21 pm: |
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Unknown:more money means bigger responsibilities..means less time for DBing
My responses are with assumption that we are referring more about FULL TIME jobs than Consulting.
Full time lo oka stage vacchaka.. like a manager... its just a checklist job... pani ayyinda leda... or vaadu sarigga settunnada ledha.. itta untayi jobs. Mostly management jobs... andhulo tracking pani ekkuva than anything else.
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