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     Pete_sampras Side Hero Username: Pete_sampras Post Number: 2529 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 203.2.182.248 Rating: N/A |
US lo ObamaCare antunnaru bro, term created mainly by GOP and Fauxnews  | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 7115 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
Obamacare enti .. Rajiv Arogya Sri ni chusi naming chesaara? brand building exercise aa?  India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Startrek Junior Artist Username: Startrek Post Number: 50 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 72.46.217.84 Rating: N/A |
time pass kosam http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7233 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
it is not a competition of who screws up more. i doubt if many of us here have voting right in US to turn our thoughts into action. we are just doing fact finding i guess your google is as good as mine | ||
| Pete_sampras Side Hero Username: Pete_sampras Post Number: 2521 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 203.2.182.248 Rating: N/A |
Sare for a moment lets assume that Govt intervention is bad, but even if Romney is elected, he will put similar bill in place which is much worst the Obamacare, what do you want to say about this?? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7232 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
that's the problem. to make it better he is going to make it worse. intentions are not enough. you first need to show where govt managed is better than private where there is no monopoly by govt. you and me coming from a socialist mindset believe that govt can fix everything. sadly that is not true. most of the times govt adds to the problem it tries to solve. it is just plain ol economics that when prices are fixed they go up. the mess in the first case is created by govt with medicare and medicaid just like the housing program your google is as good as mine | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 13104 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.25.196 Rating: N/A |
Just to put things in perspective.. A Specialist charges $25(copay), he charges about 300-350 to the insurance company..insurance lekapothe about 250.. $350 ki India lo openheart surgery chesukochu..in a decent private hospital.. things are fckedup..Obamacare doesnt address the high cost of healthcare at all.. | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 13103 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.25.196 Rating: N/A |
60k H1B Visalu ichinattu dattars from India every year theppinchandi..no additional tests required here.. debba tho healthcare dari lo paduthundi.. Obamacare bonguboshanam doesnt change much | ||
| Pete_sampras Side Hero Username: Pete_sampras Post Number: 2520 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 203.2.182.248 Rating: N/A |
Bhayya ivvani kadu, currently US health care sucks, to make it better Obama is proposing ObamaCare, if you feel it bad then come up with a better one. GOP doesn't have a good plan for health care, Romney care is similar to Obama's. so it better 'Put up or Shut up' | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7231 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
that is too broad a topic and i am least knowledgeable in it. Economically speaking prices go up when there is demand supply disparity 1) Not enough doctors - medical education are expensive. random quotes online - Medical schools are required to purchase professional liability and malpractice coverage for their medical students from the time they are enrolled until graduation. Med students will often engage in volunteer clinical activities approved by their Med School. In addition, teaching doctors are often penalized with higher professional liability & malpractice premium then a none academic medical doctor. Forcing Med Schools to increase tuition to cover compensate teaching doctors. Doctors are overpaid because the AMA is a cartel that effectively uses government to limit the number of doctors (through limiting spots in Med school and foreign doctors). There is NO free market in healthcare! Never will be. Guilds (the AMA and med colleges) control supply. Insurers obscure pricing. We need single payer healthcare. 2) Cost of drugs - monopoly of big pharma cutting competition using FDA regulations and import restrictions 3) Legal, insurance, license costs - discourage two room hospitals around the corner for common sicknesses and infections. India thrives here. 4) Insurance regulations - Govt mandates them to cover all visits to the doctor, forcing them to raise premiums. Administrative costs dealing with insurance companies, medicare and medicaid are 20% of the total healthcare costs 5) Market prices no longer natural - while price of everything else goes down, cost of healthcare goes up - because 50% of the prices are fixed/negotiated by a bureaucrat, not the patient which one of the above issues does obamacare address ? NONE. Just walk into the room, look at the elephant and start feeding it References: http://www.commondreams.org/views/080700-101.htm http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2012/02/why-is-health-care-expe nsive-its-the-prices-stupid http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawaken ing-liberty/2012/mar/29/why-health-care-so-expensive/ http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/05/why-is-healthcare-absur dly-expensive-in-usa-part-2/ your google is as good as mine | ||
| Pete_sampras Side Hero Username: Pete_sampras Post Number: 2519 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 203.2.182.248 Rating: N/A |
Ok, you don't like Obamecare, Could you please suggest a better alternative? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7230 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
they could do the same with software employees salary also. its the same dollars your google is as good as mine | ||
| Qdoba Side Hero Username: Qdoba Post Number: 2405 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 207.166.204.5 Rating: N/A |
Mcdonald's said the health care plan will cost their stores an extra $10,000 to $30,000. | ||
| Qdoba Side Hero Username: Qdoba Post Number: 2403 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 207.166.204.5 Rating: N/A |
I don't know if premiums are gonna increase every year or not..But,we would see more & more companies laying off its employees and offshore the jobs to India to save the dollars because of Obamacare.... With a staggering unemployment rate of 8.2%, it's not a good idea to force the companies to buy the healthcare insurance for all the workers. Why can't the Govt just cut the doctors salary and pay for the health insurance of the poor people? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7229 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
employer cover cheyadam anedhi incentive for retention. obama and getafix like to assume that it is always employers market so they need to be forced to provide insurance and benefits. in an employees market companies provide more incentives and better pay for the fear of losing the employee. all these centralized welfare programs make sure that it is a perennial employers market and welfare govts cash on the fear of people about not having job, insurance etc, which they created in the first place your google is as good as mine | ||
| Newguy123 Hero Username: Newguy123 Post Number: 13066 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 166.137.88.145 Rating: N/A |
Nenu US vachinappudu most of employers 100% cover chesevaru. Obamacare raakamunde Every year benefits tagguta vastunnayi. Insurance cost Peragakapothe anukovachu. Last 3 years nunchi nenu own ga insurance Teesukuntunna,Every year premium perugutune vundi except this year Ee year koncham taggindi next year chuddamu | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10579 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
nope.. there are not. kakapothe typical mass hysteria chuyisthunnar junta eeda..clarification kosam 3 posts.. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 8014 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
common guys, there is no way you can ever end this argument, other than satisfying your egos. there are no perfect solutions, perfect ideologies here. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 13097 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
I agree with this..just ridiculous costs.. Idhi fix cheyyanantha varaku obamacare..romneycare..thokkalocare nothing really works.. | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10576 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
point to point disco opika ledu.. never ending avuddi. So wiki nunchi patkochina konni salient features of so called quality healthcare system in US and obama care..
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| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7228 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
they are. did you ever see a corporation go to prison ? your google is as good as mine | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 13096 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
Corporations are people my friend.. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7227 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
Did you calculate the bureaucratic expense involved in healthcare ? Is that counted in the 10% ? Germany did not see any other type of healthcare. We don't know that if insurance is not mandated and regulated, based on their laws, number of hospitals and medical schools, they might not even be spending 10% of their GDP on hospitals. Younger people pay lower than seniors. School is free for German doctors where as you come out with a huge debt in US. German doctors get paid much lesser than US doctors. just like farmers paying the price for subsidized food in India doctors and hospitals pay the price of subsidized healthcare in Germany. there are definitely drawbacks in US system but instead of going the German way where govt controls the doctors, nurses, hospitals income and bringing another layer between doctor and patient that will only add to the cost, US should look into why the healthcare costs are higher in US. http://www.globalaging.org/health/world/2006/packing.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Lf7k-Q-jo In the past three years, doctors have been "fleeing the country," says Mr. Drougias. According to one German doctors' association, 12,000 German doctors are working abroad. Most are on short assignment in the US, says Roland Ilzhöfer, the organization's spokesman. But at last count, 2,600 were registered in Great Britain. More than 1,000 others are in Scandinavian countries, he adds. "We know that doctors here are unhappy with working conditions and the large amount of bureaucracy," he says. "But ... it also has a lot to do with money. They can earn double or triple the amount abroad." your google is as good as mine | ||
| Alochinchu Junior Artist Username: Alochinchu Post Number: 429 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.62 Rating: N/A |
next year nuvvu benefits enroll chestunappudu cheppu ee maata.. if you guys are contributing FSA. it is already cut to $2500. They already took out the option to use for over the counter.. slow ga chustarule.. | ||
| Alochinchu Junior Artist Username: Alochinchu Post Number: 428 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.62 Rating: N/A |
mundhu meeku direct or indirect ga ela affect avuthundho alochinchukondi.. - ippati mortgage laga you can buy the insuranace in exchange program. - govt. will back some insurance or administer new one. to make it affordable they will have premium 20 to 30% less than private. - govt. will involve more on the network and will restrict the Dr. or service fees - At one point the private insurance have to increase the premium - The health coverage will be burden for your employer. If it is mdeium size company either they prefer to pay penalty or go for the govt. sponsored insurance to cut down the cost - At the end you will be eithe paying high out of pocket or will lose the quality of service - In worst case at one time the private will be gone and it would be nationalised. - Think why would some one take so much pain to be Dr. and get paid less? small businesses baga effect avuthundi - if employed more than 50 they have to provide health coverage or pay penalty - veela turn over entha untundhi? how could they can afford? big corporations ki emi farak padadhu.. it is public.. CEO won't take the cut anyway.. Once the govt. involves.. it is always get screwed.. think.. back home.. manamu govt. managed companies all screwed up it should be privatized antamu.. ikkada idhe jaruguthunchi.. govt. wants to control.. | ||
| Newguy123 Hero Username: Newguy123 Post Number: 13065 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 192.200.5.41 Rating: |
obamacare lekapothe eedu pizza rate jeevitantam penchada? | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10575 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
taxes,spending,big govt,job loss - denemma GOP buzz words ivi.. any topic aavu vyaasam.. | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10574 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
osos..nicely put..arguing in circles - thats something i can never do. anyways nee tax raises lowering jobs and economy theory ki chinna tidbit on germany health care system - Germany is second largest economy in the warld after usa..
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| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7226 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
same thing as obama. govt expansion corporate welfare etc agreed but it doesn't make their claims false. just because cbn is fighting against jagan doesnt make everything he says lies ee entho kontha debbaki mana state and country inkaa dimma tirugutune undhi ainaa meeru support cheyyadam rest clinton swagruha pathakam your google is as good as mine | ||
| Ipc302 Moderator Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 15631 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
yeah right...tax cuts, breaks iccharu, no obamacare bush zamana lo 2000-08 etayyindhi...inka china ki teesukuni poyaru motham manfacturing antha...obamacare no boochi ga choopinchi valla game aaduthunnaru anthe...bottomline ceos and cfos will screw the workers...atleast entho kontha help avuthundi ee universal healthcare...baatamline adhi rest mee trickle down reganomics | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7225 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
for all we know you may not be up to the task your google is as good as mine | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10570 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
i can but i dont want to.. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7224 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
vaatiki kuda counter ivvaleva ? you can say brainwashed only if you can refute them your google is as good as mine | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 13086 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
Classic burjuva BS | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10569 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
classic gop brainwashed theories  | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7222 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
adhe misconception brother. if taxes increase them will increase prices or layoff a bunch instead of taking a pay cut because everyone else has that added expense so it does not effect competition and they dont have to keep the prices lower. net effect fewer jobs and more tax increase to pay for unemployment. your google is as good as mine | ||
| Ipc302 Moderator Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 15630 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
adhi obamacare aapaledhu...ee 1% people ki taxes ekkuva sesthe sacchi nattu kadtharu kadha..aa taxes increase seyyakunda undataniki ee lobbying batch ni padtharu | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7218 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
how is obamacare going to stop that ? the bailouts that obama fought for and you paid for went to the same CEOs. big govt always favors big corporations. all obamacare does is redistribute that loss across the board resulting in fewer jobs and more people that need obamacare your google is as good as mine | ||
| Ipc302 Moderator Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 15626 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
i am for obamacare...too long these greedy CEOs have ruined companies and taken hundreds of millions of dollars as compensations and golden parachutes etc etc...a little increase in pizza or orther prodcuts is fair game for me when millions ar going to be cvered by basic insurance...its better than poor people getting treatment and not paying bills, declaring bankruptcy blah blah etc etc | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7216 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
what is the alternative you are proposing ? chinese style govt managed companies where everyone works for bread and shoes ? your google is as good as mine | ||
| Ipc302 Moderator Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 15624 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
enni kastalo CEO's ki...my sympathies to those poor people | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7215 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
obviously made up but funny. came across it some time ago. “As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barrack [sic] Obama is our President and that our insurance costs, taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, our prices would have to increase by about 10%. But since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the dismal state of the economy, we will have to lay off sixty of our employees instead. This has really been bothering me since I believe we are family here and I didn’t know how to choose who would have to go. So, this is what I did. I walked through our parking lots and found sixty ‘Obama’ bumper stickers on our employees’ cars and have decided these folks will be the ones to let go. I can’t think of a more fair way to approach this problem. They voted for change, I gave it to them.†your google is as good as mine | ||
| Fargo Junior Artist Username: Fargo Post Number: 811 Registered: 04-2012 Posted From: 148.87.67.201 Rating: N/A |
Atleast ppl will start eating healthier Timmirekkuvaithe Manchamekkali kani Spot ki Raakudadhu Raa | ||
| Fargo Junior Artist Username: Fargo Post Number: 810 Registered: 04-2012 Posted From: 148.87.67.201 Rating: N/A |
nastam emi ledhu. Pay seyyochu Timmirekkuvaithe Manchamekkali kani Spot ki Raakudadhu Raa | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 7212 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
another way to go is cut number of employees. increase in price will have decrease in sales which will also lead to job cuts. instead of paying wages for 100 people now they will pay wages+insurance for 90 people. aa 10 people ki unemployment+insurance govt(tax payer) ivvali. adhe socialism chamakku. your google is as good as mine | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 107286 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 108.239.174.89 Rating: N/A |
10 orders a month just on pizza will result $2 xtra spending per family /person ! okka pizza ke intha ante breakfast,faatfoods, clothings, barber shops,bowling centres, theatres ...what not....andaru tala oka $5 increase chestaru price per month per family | ||
| Qdoba Side Hero Username: Qdoba Post Number: 2401 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 207.166.204.5 Rating: N/A |
Papa John's CEO John Schnatter says that Obamacare will result in a $0.11 to $0.14 price increase per pizza, or $0.15 to $0.20 cents per order, Pizza Marketplace, a trade publication, reports. (Hat tip: @dkberman via Twitter.) Under Obamacare, the company, which is the third-largest pizza takeout and delivery chain in the United States, will have to offer health care coverage to more of its 16,500 total employees or pay a penalty to the government. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/papa-johns-obamacar e-pizza_n_1752126.html |
