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     Kindal Comedian Username: Kindal Post Number: 1937 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.14 Rating: N/A |
RTE is dead on arrival, waste of exchequers and adds more burden to our fiscal position. For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6269 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
btw .. here is the copy of RTE .. Govt of India released .. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2thfmFsrP9gZWU3ZWQ5NzctZjMx YS00NzU3LWFmN2EtNWYzYmY1OGY5Njhh/edit?hl=en&pli=1 Chapter 5 talks about curriculum and completion of elementary education - kaani it doesnt look bad .. except for the govt fixing the curriculum and the evaluation procedure (exam) .. kaani Chapter 6 is where the govt gives the directives in the name of protection of child rights .. and then point number 37 - govt (both central and state and other authorities including schools) cannot be pursued legally ani declaration .. as the action is taken in good faith! okko sari .. avasarama intha hungama anettu ga undi .. govt schools ni chakka diddithe saripoyedaaniki .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6268 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
Even Tilak or anybody else, did not oppose English either .. kaani ippudu India lo education system is just like in the times of British .. 90% of the students study everything in English .. which is senseless .. bcoz we need to master English first to pursue those courses .. and precious time is wasted in the process .. as Tilak said ..
when is the key here .. Tilak 1890s lo cheppinadi .. in 2012 is still a point we are discussing .. meaning we havent cross that divide in 125 years! English ni eliminate cheyyamanadam ledu .. ee world lo .. andariki entho kontha English vachi undatam manchide .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10897 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 184.155.119.232 Rating: N/A |
nee post ni nuvve contradict cheskuntunnavu ante adi ninnu judge chesinatta? Point unte topic meeda matladu. Ee thread motham meeda personal comments emina unnayi ante adi nee post ye. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6943 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
i agree about the primary and high school education in local languages but at some point it is better for a student to learn english. english language is like a bus station. it is better to go board the bus at the station than to stop the bus at every house. imagine if all the literary and scientific works in 100 different languages were to be translated into 100 other major languages. that is not possible. it is better for people seeking knowledge to learn a common language and translate great literary and scientific works into that one language. sure that creates more jobs in developed countries but they don't have patent on that language. the divide will be crossed eventually. if parents choose to allow their child to learn multiple languages at a small age it also helps their brain develop better ani ekkado chadivaanu prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6267 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
ee sodhi post ni emantaru? judging antara? commentary antara? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6266 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
I am trying to find out if he had a stand on how it is 'enforced'. btw ..
wats ur opinion on this? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10896 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 184.155.119.232 Rating: N/A |
Ppl ni judge chestunnadi nenaa nuvvaa? Disc lo point leka nenu idi nenu adi ani paralu rastunnavu? Pak tho differences, cultural ties ni dominate chesinattu vere states tho avvakudada? And for the same reason leaders in the 50s, had their concerns about reorg of states. Tamilnadu, Punjab, we already have examples. Nuvvu vese post lu nuvve contradict cheskuntavu. History has enough examples to tell that ur logic falls flat. Ippudu monna FDI disc lo ichinattu nee point ne contradict chese link okati ichi inko para raayi. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6938 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
those are individual ideas that we deem "good" because they are supposed to instill nationalism. i support them to the extent where they are voluntary choice of schools and parents. i do not support a mandated curriculum by state or center. it is not clear from that link what his stand is on that prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6937 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
just because it has the word education in it you support the initiation of force and infringement upon the rights of private citizens (school owners). even if you want to say it is a necessary sacrifice of rights for greater good, what are the expected results govt takes away choice from tax payers, parents, and schools, and make decisions for all 3 of them ? prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6263 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
Bal Gangadhar Tilak had some awesome thoughts as to how India's educational system should be. Way back, around 1908, Bal Gangadhar Tilak wrote a seminal piece called "National Education" on the invitation of Annie Besant for the magazine - New India. Nehru, after becoming the PM in 1947, what did he do to such ideas? Nehru, as a member of Congress, came to power on the sacrifices of great people like Tilak, but did he do anything about their ideas? Read on and decide. Here I am giving the link to Tilak's work on education - http://www.ncte-india.org/pub/tilak/tilak.htm chadivithe Sanman's first post in this thread, blaming Nehru, entha relevant anedi telustundi. Special attention to these chapters 4.2 EDUCATION IN INDIA IN THE 19TH CENTURY 4.4 EDUCATIONAL THOUGHTS OF TILAK'S CONTEMPORARY : GOPAL GANESH AGARKAR 4.5 LOKMANYA TILAK THE PIONEER OF THE CONCEPT OF NATIONAL EDUCATION 4.6 LOKMANYA TILAK : PROPOUNDER OF NATIONALISTIC EDUCATION 4.12 LOKMANYA TILAK'S THOUGHTS ON LANGAUAGE TEACHING AND MEDIUM OF INSTRUCTION India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6261 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
ya .. boc communal BJP supports tribal Sangma .. communal Archarya Balkrishna arrested today by CBI .. but if secular Imam Bukhari ni arrest cheste Delhi lo godavalu avutayi ani Delhi Police bhayam ..
http://dailypioneer.com/city/81352-trouble-brews-for-shahi-i mam-again.html This country is a secular dream of Nehru's vision! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 30343 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
appatlo JP eee madhyana tdp and trs...vote veyyaledhanta gaa? Nijamena? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6250 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/article3658906 .ece twist!!! maree antha verify chesukokunda news publish chestonda 'Hindu' .. emi ra Siddarth Varadarajan .. emi ra idi? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6238 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
Nehru's lamest rule - was a bane to all Indians/Hindus .. aayana gaari hayaam lo .. growth lenanduku .. 'Hindu rate of growth' coin chesaru .. shameless chemchas of Nehru .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_rate_of_growth .. malli ippudu hind sight lo matladutunnam ani samardhimpu okati .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6236 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
hahahha .. neeku matrame artham ayyindi .. lol
cultural similarities have become negligible in the face of enmity .. adi nenu cheptunnadi .. as usual u r trying to give it ur own spin .. frankly, nee tho discuss cheyyalante chiraku dobbutondi .. while maintaining civility as a facade, you try to denigrate the person/idea, which u dont like .. and continuing with ur lame job of judging ppl .. LOL .. wats the responsibility of a leader? does he take any at all? Nehru, because of the power he enjoyed, has the responsibility to own up the mess he created in this country .. he ruled this country for an effing 17 years .. Kashmir issue - messed up (what would have happened had he let Patel handle it?) Pak boundary issue - messed up UN security council - messed up China boundary issue - messed up chivaraki economy - messed up (centralized planning mannu/masanam - denemma hindustan motors enni cars manufacture cheyyalo kuda Industries dept secretary, among many other things ... and u try to defend him .. citing its 60 years ago that these happened etc .. but wats the point of trying to lead? modern idea of democracy ki Nehru naa? Patel ni andaru PM ani elect chesukunte aligi .. Gandhi daggaraki elli edavatam democracy na? manaki RSS ante padadu kabatti .. Gandhi ni assasinate chesina vadu okappudu same org kabatti .. assassination avvagaane illegal ga ban cheyyadam democracy na? he even used Patel in this game .. do u know that? u dont believe me - read this ultra-leftist publication (http://www.epw.in/special-articles/how-ban-rss-was-lifted.ht ml) .. 1953 lo Syama Prasad Mukherjee ni Kashmir lo adugu pettinanduku jail lo veyyadam democracy na? when he is ill - 40 days treatment ivvakunda isolation lo unchadam democracy na? chivaraki poyaaka .. Mukherjee's mother wrote a letter to Nehru .. that she wants justice .. did Nehru respond??? (http://blog.lkadvani.in/blog-in-english/salutations-to-a-gre at-martyr) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syama_Prasad_Mookerjee) emi democrat ayya .. pedda glorify chestunnav .. in my honest opinion .. Nehru should have paid for all these sins .. but since he is no more .. his descents will pay .. there are no two ways about it .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10891 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Meeku aayana argument artham kaledu. I already said culture is certainly "a" factor in keeping the country united. Adi kaadu anta. Pakis hindutva ki against anta anduke separate country ayyindi anta. Pak ki manaki cultural similarities levu anta.. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6928 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
IR em argument vayya idhi he is talking about unifying factors inside India you are talking about countries that are not part of India. for various reasons (mostly British) they are not part of India now. cultural familiarity undhi ani occupy chesukuntaama ippudu vallaki vaalla own identity create aindhi and they are happy with it. why would they want to join India. yes some times other issues may dominate but we are talking about unifying forces not dividing forces prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10880 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Prior to 1947, Pak, and today's India for centuries religion, food habits, clothing, language, music, life style ivanni share cheskunnayi. 1947 lo Pak form avvagaane ee cultural ties anni aaviri aipoyi enmity migilindi...  Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12668 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
natisthunnava? google is ur friend..sarle inka padukoo | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10879 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Yes, but it started as the demand of politicians. Vallu aa basis meeda janalani rechagottaru. Punjab issue kooda almost same. Manaki ademo politicians, Pak emo kaada? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6235 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.226.93 Rating: N/A |
Zulesh, nee Hindi, Hindu, Hindustan batch ki link padeyyi .. repu chaduvukunta .. anyways .. bye .. GN India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6234 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.226.93 Rating: N/A |
read on dude .. taravata satires veyyochu .. policy ki just peru pettara .. inkemanna chesara ani ..
lol .. just politicians demand aa? end of 1930s ke .. the idea of pak was strong .. 1940s ki .. even Gandhi and Nehru gave up .. nuvvu vere ga chadivaava? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6233 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.226.93 Rating: N/A |
Correct .. Pak tho ties enti .. enmity ne .. no ties .. Nepal .. India tho politically eppudu kalisi ledu .. adi ardam kaada .. all the 500 princely states were with India politically even before 1947 .. while Nepal did not .. it was always a different nation from around 12th century .. wats the point of harping on the same thing? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7659 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
IR bro, No matter who started it, there was enough polarization among people to chose sides. kaadhu antava? Initially it was just a bunch of zealots party leaders, who were asking for it, and during this period, INC and other leaders have tried to persuade these leaders(this includes both muslim and hindu leaders) . INC has eventually given up, especially Gandhi. In case of the rest of secessionist parties, the leaders did not gain the same sort of support among masses. all black or white anattu argue chesthunaavu anipisthundhi, may be im missing the point. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12667 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
avunu..kamal kurrod ki evaranna jola padandi  | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10878 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10877 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Enti policy ki hindu peru pedithe hindutva naa  Any way thats not the point. The crux of your argument is that cultural similarity, and cultural ties are the major force in creating and sustaining political unions. Cultural ties unna Pak, cultural, and religious ties unna Nepal mana political union lo enduku levu ante answer ledu.
Pak demand politicians nundi kaada? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7658 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
zulai, thala noppi ga undhaa? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6232 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.186.209 Rating: N/A |
personal circle ni batti matrame kaadu .. personal circle lo vi kuda additional proofs .. Hindutva peru special ga ettakkarledu .. each election is different and so are strategies .. 'Ladli Lakshmi Yojna', 'Panchamrut philosophy' .. lanti ideas unnayi ga .. they are very natural to Indian soil .. such ideas too reach the people .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10876 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Tamud, personal circle batti generalized opinions form cheskuntava? Mari mee vallu enduku ee madhya hindutva peru ethakunda veltunnaru election ki? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6231 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.186.209 Rating: N/A |
http://centreright.in/2012/07/rte-asking-the-unasked-questio n/#.UAgUxWEe5uM related to the thread .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10875 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
I never contradicted the fact that culture binds the country. But it is not strong enough to bring states together politically, or bring states together. Already oka country ani register aipoyi, puttinappati nundi fix aipoyaka, cultural ties can add to it to strengthen the bonding. 1950s lo appude kada oka country kinda union vachindi. More over, I strongly believe that linguistic states strengthened the union. Each state had the freedom to declare its official language and carry out governance, contrary to the fears of Nehru, or Ambedkar. But, at the same time I think that it was natural for them to be concerned. Given the fact that those were the early years of the union. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12666 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
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| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6230 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.186.209 Rating: N/A |
U have put it in context and presented precisely .. thx some other time dude .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6229 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.186.209 Rating: N/A |
nuvvemaina survey chesava door to door? vere communities tho polisthe koddiga diverse practices undachu w.r.t Hindutva .. kaani they do follow many things unique to Hindutva .. Saudi/Dubai pothe .. mana muslims ni kuda Hindus ani piliche Arabs unnaru .. still .. ask ur muslim friends .. or naa muslim friends tho same cheppinchamante cheppistha .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10874 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Adi joke vayya..paiga nuvvu ichina text lo unnade.. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6927 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
It can be the major source of unity. Not religion but culture. What else do you think binds India together ? Government ? the disturbances we in India are mostly result of govt actions, not the other way around. Culturally majority of the country accepts same deities, celebrates festivals on the same days, pilgrimages to same places, grew up hearing the same mythologicals, and shares a lot of common traditions. why were ramayan and mahabharat tv serials such hits throughout India ? leaderships instead of focusing and cashing on differences , if they focus on familiarities, and declare a common motto, that is enough to keep the country united. prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 3490 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 174.254.242.41 Rating: N/A |
Bala tilak goru kill me i say | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6228 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.186.209 Rating: N/A |
Tamil Nadu and Punjab secessionist demands arose bcoz of stupid political leaders at center and state, like Kashmir .. not bcoz of people .. if it was bcoz of people, they would have seceded from India .. Trivializing the view of others to gain an upper hand .. great way sir .. good luck! bye for now .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10873 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
India lo muzs leraa? We don't subscribe to hindutva ane muzs majority lo unnaru. And a lot of them accept India as their country, and their land, as much you do.
Cultural ties should bring nations/states together "politically" anede kada tamari argument. Malli danni nuvve contradict chestave. Paiga I bet we have a lot of pilgrimages to pashupatinath temple in Nepal, and manasarovar in Tibet. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10872 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
None of my arguments are against this. But cultural bonding alone is just not enough to keep a nation together. And we have already seen that its strength was not enough to bring nations/states under a union. Demand for separate Tamil country, Punjab etc are examples. Nepal, and Pak too. Pak has a lot of cultural ties with India. Pak dictators, leaders had their roots in India, and vice versa. Food, music, clothing, way of life - there are many similarities. But are India-Pak together? Are they friends at the least? You think pilgrimages from one state to other are enough to keep the country together Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6227 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.242.186.209 Rating: N/A |
oh s .. wats ur story of this history?
why shud it? it wasnt politically connected to India for a long time in history .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10871 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Why did not Nepal join us then? Deeniki answer cheppu, tharuvatha vyasalu radduvu gaani.
So you are saying that Pakistan was formed bcoz muzs did not culturally subscribe to hindutva? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6225 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.241.76.142 Rating: N/A |
LOL .. issue is not that simple .. vyaasalu raase opika naaku ledu .. fractured finger tho ekkuva type cheyyalenu .. we will carry this disco some other time .. till then ee link chaduvu .. ardam aithe ok .. ledu .. since US and canada share christian tenets, but are different nations .. alage India kuda ante .. I will shut up .. naa view aithe India's identity is unique .. anyways read on ..
http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/378/344/ India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6924 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
i think he means the unifying factor inside India can be Hindutwa, does not mean all Hindu majority countries volunteer come under one nation. prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10863 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Nuvvu raasina logic malli oka saari chaduko. Hindutva anna bonding unte chalu anduke integrate ayyamu antavu. Malli nepal enduku kalavaledu ante Nepal was never "politically" part of the Mughal kingdom antavu.
Pak ni cultural, hindutva criteria meeda veru chesara? Asalu artham undaa? Pak was formed bcoz of the whims of a few ppl. Vallu valla personal whims ni spread chesi division teeskocharu. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7652 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
tilakam, lite ga thappu ardham chesukunnavo, ledho nenu correst ga analedho.. Im not talking about seperatist ideologies where a state wants to be a nation itself, although there were some threats from these quarters as well. ee seperatist movements were strong only in the ones you mentioned, but there were few others like punjab, assam, and to some extent Tamizh naadu. I was talking more about the difference of opinions on what would be a state. though language was a feasible binding factor there were many other people of different dialects who wanted their own states. I think at one point the list went up to 42 states, excluding the union territories. heck, gonds wanted their own state, and they lived in four different regions. UP, Madhyapradeshm orissa and AP lo ekkuva undedhi veela populaton.
bro, i agree Pak was not a free state economy wise, but i was talking relative to india. they had license raj, but the it was controlled by feudal lords, and they were more powerful than the government.
tilakam, savarkar ninsi gandhi varaku andharu okka desam anukunna vaare kadha, i think most indian leaders were adamant that it should be one state, barring the muslim league. With in INC there was split much later, about giving into the demands of seperate state. vishayam theliyanidhi kaadhu kadha. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
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I sincerely believe .. India is a unique case in the whole world .. no parallels .. where political boundaries are defined due to historical/cultural boundaries India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
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| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6223 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
ok .. fine .. nee telivi tetala pradarsana naakenduku kaani .. simple ga cheppu .. Pakistan ni ey criteria meeda India nunchi veru chesaru Brits?
Nepal was never part of India .. atleast Mughal times lo kuda India tho kalisi ledu .. yes culturally we are same .. Sri Lanka is a buddhist country .. It should have been part of India .. but independence was a Brit decision .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12657 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
nepal hindu majority country..srilanka is hindu/buddist (which is part of 'hinduthva')..then why are they seperate entities? and why didnt you anwer the other part of my kochen regarding europe/southamerica? mohamatapadaku | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10860 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 184.155.119.232 Rating: N/A |
Tamud Nepal monnati daaka official Hindu desame gaa, Hindutva peru cheppi memu India lo kalustamu analede? Why? Cultural integration does not always lead to political integration. Eematram telisthe, endukule. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6221 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
babuu .. nannu sampeyyi .. nee usage enti 500 princely "states" .. not countries .. ade nenu cheppindi .. India is a peculiar case .. naaku telisi prapancham lo ekkada ledu .. a nation that is existing in the same form, from the pre-"nation-state" days ..
ippinchagalava? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10859 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 184.155.119.232 Rating: N/A |
Hindutva glues us into one nation ante artham enti?Oka nation kakapothe. Aithe Kashmir ki independence icheddama, one nation akkarledu gaa. Inkenduku Article 370 gurinchi badha, let every state secede as they wish. Kavalante memu separate country aina Hindutva glues us ani oka statement istaru. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6219 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
ippudu unnaya aa aakulu? we have lost those leaves a long ago .. like some 1000 years ago .. antha daaka enduku .. ippudu latest secession demand vachina Kashmir .. ki reason enti? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6218 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
ardam ayyinda? linguistic states, if they are totally independent .. ee pramadam undi ani hecharinchadu anthe .. Kashmir vishayam lo article 370 tho .. almost independence ichesadu Nehru thatha .. and today we constantly hear about secession in those 4 sunni muslim dominant districts .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12656 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
LOL Na bochu..oodipothundi..but i have been hearing the same logic from years...and same retort from my side..I will try one more time Nepal lo..srilanka lo..bhutan..burma..indonesia lo kooda hindu akul unnayi? why are those not part of India now.. If religion is the binding force..Why does Europe or South America have so many countries when its binded by christianity?? na valla kadu mahaprabho... | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6217 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
okati, rende undaali ani rule unda? oka inti peru vallu antha oka family aithe andaru oke intlo undaala?  India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10858 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 184.155.119.232 Rating: N/A |
Nee istam vachinattu raseyaku babu history. Kinda linguistic states gurinchi Ambedkar quote undi choosi matladu. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
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Idea of Hindutva gluing the nation aithe 500 princely states enduku unnayi? Okati, mahaa aithe 2 undali. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6216 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
LOL .. Nehru ki, inko naluguriki unte andariki unnattu kaadu .. btw .. Ambedkar ni teesukuni raaku ee vishayam lo .. he only said .. when they are "independent states" like the after article 370 Kashmir, only then secession demands untayi ani .. and not surprising thing is Nehru pushed for article 370! India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10855 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 184.155.119.232 Rating: N/A |
Leni threat aa LOL. Nuvvu emanukuntunnavu kaadu akkada. Appudu national leadership ki disintegrate autundemo ani kachitamgaa concern undedi. Paina Zulu quoted Ambedkar also. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6213 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
I doubt .. !
papam .. everybody condemned it to the grave .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6920 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
atlanti party ee rojullo lekapovadam sochaneeyam. bjp might shift in that direction in future as a logical contrast to congress. i am reading a paper on that party. google search second link From the outset, the nature and role of the party have been hotly disputed subjects. It has been described as a party of âconservative rich peasants in the South, a few finance capitalists in the West, some Bihar and U. P. feudal atavisms, and communalist chiefs in the North.â It has been condemned by the Indian Communist Party as one of the âforces of dark, right reactionâ and by Nehru as belonging to âthe middle ages of lords, castles and zamindarsâ and becoming âmore and more Fascist in outlook.â One American scholar has labelled it âa communal conservative party,â while a British observer has concluded that âthe victory of this party could be an unmitigated disaster for India.â By contrast, its supporters see it as âa progressive liberal partyâ which will âslow down the Congress steamrollerâ by providing a non-communist, non-socialist, secular, and constitutionalist alternative to the ruling party. Barely surpassed by Swatantra literature itself was the enthusiasm of the American magazine Life, which contended that âthe Swatantra program could really get that huge country moving in a direction favorable to free institutions. The free world can wish this little party a big future.â prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6201 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
electorally naa .. yes .. they did .. I think oka term .. main opposition party ade anukunta .. with some 35-40 seats .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6916 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
more successful than i thought. mana state nundi kuda MP seats unnayi. it had good leadership. difference between that and loksatta is they were supported by rich businessmen and wealthy class at that time. prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6198 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
ya .. later chusa .. btw .. more successful? how? India lo Congress kakunda vere political parties ki minimum existence kuda kastame unless there is a way they catch the pulse of the masses .. no wonder Swatantra party died .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6914 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
kindha fost chesaanu brother swatantra party was more successful than i thought. too bad it died out eventually. prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6913 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
MS brother where did u come across this ? Pak followed similar economic model as India. just like our Bombay club they had a group of rich people "guiding" the government. Jinnah coined the word islamic socialism and built a license raj in pakistan. pakistan started its economic reforms in 2000 prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6177 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
LOL .. never ever again deny u dont have a bias against some ideology .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6176 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
bhayya .. idi nuvvu ekkado chadive untavu .. koddiga aa link ettu .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6175 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
bhayya .. oka junagadh, oka hyderabad, oka kashmir ni choopinchi .. India was a creation of 1947 maadiri matladutunnav ga !
why did u ignore Jan Sangh and Rajaji's Swatantra party as opposition to Nehru? India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6174 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
There is no threat to the idea of India as long as the culture of Hindutva glues the nation from Kashmir to Kanyakumari .. asalu reason emo manaki nappadu kabatti ignore .. and then say that unity itself is the biggest challenge .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Tilak Side Hero Username: Tilak Post Number: 6173 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81 Rating: N/A |
care to explain further .. why was it the 'biggest challenge' .. asalu leni threat ni biggest challenge anatam naaku comedy ga anipistondi .. India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10854 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Bro, appudu, till Indira's time, leadership ki chance undedi desam lo ani nammutunna nenu. So Nehru cheppinde dikku anukunte adi kachitamgaa lack of leadership among those that promoted other ideologies. Ippudu aa paristiti ledu. Asalu janalu ideology, leadership ante ento kooda marchipoyaru. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10853 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
NTR used all of them in bold. Ippudu asalu agenda/ideology based politics ekkada unnayi? Unte YSR policies anni inkaa nadipistunna Cong ki, Jagan party ki theda enti? LSP ni teeskocharu, ippudu nijamgaa Gandhi election lo poti cheste gelustada? At least Gandhi ki vaadu tellavaadu, ekkada nundo vachadu anna point undi to rally ppl. A fight to change the society from within is much more difficult. And the values ppl had in those times were also different. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 30317 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
eppati agendaa appuday. Appati prajala aim...Independence from British. 1983 lo, NTR unified them with telugu pride. As far as I know, NTR did not give money, mandhu, freebies, religion, caste. 1989 lo, Prafulla kumar mohanta did the same in Assam. Mallee ippudu Gandhi = NTR = prafulla Mohanta naaaa ani kocchen cheyyakundri, just example kindha icchina.
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| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6906 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10852 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Why did they fail in convincing the rest of the Cong then? Migatha vallu either socialism ni nammi undali, or Nehru kinda banisalu gaa undi undali. Rendu valla thappe gaa. How can you blame Nehru alone then? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6905 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
Patel was a strong proponent of property rights ani ekkado chadivaanu. Rajaji opposed Nehru's socialist policies At Nehru's invitation, in 1950 Rajaji joined the Union Cabinet as Minister without Porfolio[30] where he served as a buffer between Nehru and Home Minister Sardar Patel and on occasion offered to mediate between the two.[30] Following Patel's death on December 15, 1950, Rajaji was finally made Home Affairs Minister and went on to serve for nearly 10 months.[30] As had his predecessor, he warned Nehru about the expansionist designs of China and expressed regret over the Tibet problem.[39] He also expressed concern over demands for new linguistically based states, arguing that they would generate differences amongst the people. By the end of 1951, the differences between Nehru and Rajaji came to the fore.[30] While Nehru perceived the Hindu Mahasabha to be the greatest threat to the nascent republic, Rajaji held the opinion that the Communists posed the greatest danger.[30][40] He also adamantly opposed Nehru's decision to commute the death sentences passed on those involved in the Telengana uprising and his strong pro-Soviet leanings.[40][41] Tired of being persistently overruled by Nehru with regard to critical decisions,[30] Rajaji submitted his resignation on the "grounds of ill-health" and returned to Madras.[42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatantra_Party mee party symbol ae prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10851 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi money, mandu, freebies, religion, caste veetilo okkati vadala. Asalu lakshala mandi cheta oka chempa meeda kodithe inko chempa choopinchela chesadu, which was against the basic human tendency. Gandhi kante thopulu aithe migatha vallu oka chempa meeda kodithe meeru thirigi kottandi ani prajalani valla vaipu thippukovachu. Edi easy annadi nenu cheppakkarledu anukunta. Ippudunna prajalu 1947 lo unte, English vaadu visire engili methukulaki aasapadi, ade bagundi ane vallu. Gandhi ni pichodi laga choosevallu. People then were innocent, and cared about moral values.
Then adi Gandhi okkadi thappu kaadu. Ala eduru cheppani valla thappu kooda. Vallemi Gandhi kosam kaadu kada pani chesedi. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10850 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Adi nehru cheppadu ani nenu anala. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10849 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Idem comparison babu. Socialism as an economic principle illegal aa? Nehru adi nammadu. Poni within Cong capitalism ni promote chesindi evaru? Choopinchu. Helms of Cong ante though Cong was not under perfect democracy, it was not under dictatorship either. Socialism valana desam nasanam aipotondi, liberalization ni promote chesindi evaru. 90s lo kooda thappaka liberalize ayyamu manamu, not bcoz somebody saw it and acted on it. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6904 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
those were innocent times. before people knew politics can be used for personal gains. before they knew they can expect to get paid for vote prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 30315 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Money, Mandhu....paatha chintha kaaya pacchadi. Nellore lo Subba Rami reddy lost by 2.92 lakhs votes. Not 1 or 2 or 3...Lok Satta lost deposits in almost all elections and segments after 2009. 2012 lonay....one of the better states in India like AP lo....pejalu itlaa untay.... 1947 lo...masses etlaa unday vaallo ani kavi bhaavam. Gandhi ki edhuru cheppadam antay.....appatlo jarigay pani kaadhu. we have seen pattabhi seetharamayya vs bose election, one such example. Having said this, I am not questioning Gandhi's role in India getting independece late/early. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6902 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
adhi cheppindhi nehru kaadhu. ambedkar. nehru brought in the concept of mixed socialism or whatever. na ghar kaa na ghaat kaa annattu tayaarayyindhi. you are saying it is party based principle. andhuke kadha nehru gaanni blame chesedhi since he was at the helms of congress before and after independence. lekapothe meeru kudaa prajaa court ni gouravinchaali antunnaara prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10848 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
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Ippudu  | ||
| Rock Side Hero Username: Rock Post Number: 4505 Registered: 04-2012 Posted From: 209.55.81.236 Rating: N/A |
annai , eppudanna chance vaste sasibabu annai tho marinate chepinchu. kummestadu annai.monna weekend ma intlo kummadu . lamb and sikini | ||
| Pulibongaram Comedian Username: Pulibongaram Post Number: 1684 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 98.27.59.241 Rating: N/A |
no vantal rey......jesht marinate siken mukkal....in friji....lunch and dinnering overn lo etti thintannaa | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10847 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
There you go. Perfectly said. If ppl of India felt that capitalism was better, they would have elected a party that promoted it. Isn't it? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
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chitti kotta vantalu em cheyale? | ||
| Pulibongaram Comedian Username: Pulibongaram Post Number: 1683 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 98.27.59.241 Rating: N/A |
eti latesht shtory about tuglaq nehru? | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 415 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.39.255.35 Rating: N/A |
And Nehru was a snobbish rich kid, enamored with the lefty british intellectuals and soviet revolutionaries. And it is disingenuous to claim that socialism was the only reasonable path for a poor new country like india. And Indian constitution did not have "socialist secular republic" till the emergency period under Indira. It was only in the 70s during the emergency these two words are added to the constitution preamble. And also "right to private property" is a fundamental right in our constitution till 70s. Ambedkar, on socialism, during the constituent assembly debates: "What should be the policy of the State, how the Society should be organized in its social and economic side are matters which must be decided by the people themselves according to time and circumstances. It cannot be laid down in the Constitution itself, because that is destroying democracy altogether. If you state in the Constitution that the social organization of the State shall take a particular form, you are, in my judgment, taking away the liberty of the people to decide what should be the social organization in which they wish to live. It is perfectly possible today, for the majority people to hold that the socialist organization of society is better than the capitalist organization of society. But it would be perfectly possible for thinking people to devise some other form of social organization which might be better than the socialist organization of today or of tomorrow. I do not see therefore why the Constitution should tie down the people to live in a particular form and not leave it to the people themselves to decide it for themselves." The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10846 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Bose wanted to take the support of even fascists, and dictators, if they were against the British. But that does not make him any lesser leader. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10845 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Yes, but he wanted INC to follow him. What if everybody in INC thought like him?
It never got implemented only bcoz of Patel, and Nehru. Modern concepts democracy, secularism, separation of state and religion, ilanti vatiki Cong lo champion Nehru. Capitalism ni promote cheyali ante Nehru ne cheyalemo. You are talking as if the entire Congress, and India wanted capitalism, but only bcoz of Nehru we chose socialism. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 414 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.39.255.35 Rating: |
video lo cheppindi nijamaithe - school lo poorer sections nunchi vachina vaalla hair cut cheyyadamanedi disgusting. RTE - by definition is a poor concept and deserves all the contempt. No one can seriously claim that they have the right to be taught by another. But I am sympathetic to the idea of mandating all schools to reserving 25% seats for weaker sections of the local community. This is the only sort of reservation (as opposed to that at graduate/job level) that can be reasonably justified for several reasons: 1. to break the cycle of the rich getting all the competitive edge. 2. diversity of classroom experience 3. improve an understanding of the other but as usual we can count on the Congress to botch it up massively: 1. crude religious pandering - exemption of minority schools from this mandate.. now every school will try to register itself as a minority.. 2. crude caste pandering - definition of weaker sections is primarily based on caste as usual.. and i believe no creamy layer exemption 3. power grab - more centralization of examination type/system/curriculum The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6901 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
aa daridram kanna ee daridram chaala better emo rao gaaru prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6900 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
yes. his personal agenda. he saw it as a logical move allying with enemy of British. right wrong pakkana pedithe never got to implement it. no he didnt. He stood for unqualified Swaraj (self-governance), including the use of force against the British. This meant a confrontation with Mohandas Gandhi, who in fact opposed Bose's presidency[19], splitting the Indian National Congress party. Bose attempted to maintain unity, but Gandhi advised Bose to form his own cabinet. The rift also divided Bose and Nehru. Bose appeared at the 1939 Congress meeting on a stretcher. He was elected president again over Gandhi's preferred candidate Pattabhi Sitaramayya.[20] U. Muthuramalingam Thevar strongly supported Bose in the intra-Congress dispute. Thevar mobilised all south India votes for Bose.[21] However, due to the manoeuvrings of the Gandhi-led clique in the Congress Working Committee, Bose found himself forced to resign from the Congress presidency.[22] His uncompromising stand finally cut him off from the mainstream of Indian nationalism. Bose then organized the Forward Bloc on 22 June 1939 he didnt go to Germany until 1941 again, never implemented so never had a chance admit he was wrong kindha link ichaanu kadha it was not like he did not see the results of his policies in his life time they don't make him right where he was wrong. like i posted below i am not placing entire blame on him. he sure did give it a hell of kick start. we are looking at his economic policies only as economic policies. look at the underlying assumptions of those policies. socialism undermines the role of individuals both as a producer and a consumer. a bureaucrat can replace the choices of both. it is an insult to citizens who he probably claimed loved so much prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12646 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.23.151 Rating: N/A |
flow lo vochesindi rao garu..  but hitler tho kalisi bose India ki dittatar aipothey ela undedi ante ippudu cheppalem kada? No point in discussing ifs and buts ani naa udhesam.. | ||
| Farmer Side Hero Username: Farmer Post Number: 3476 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 74.63.112.140 Rating: N/A |
 ,,.germany enti communist enti....chethoo thineyy | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10844 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
enti, hitler tho kalisa? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12645 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.23.151 Rating: N/A |
Ivanni ifs and buts..who knows bose germany tho kalisi pedha communist autocracy form chesthey china type lo undedemo..u never know.. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10843 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Anduke inkaa Gandhi etc valana freedom raledu ani pracharam cheskuntunnaru. Appudu veellani peekaddu ani evadu aapadu? Gandhi emanna janalaki money, mandu panchi thana vaipu thippukunnada? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10842 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi, Patel, Nehru, Ambedkar and others. Ee leadership vesina foundation ye, the entity India is still in tact. Inkaa ippudunna leaders lanti vallu unte eppudo mukkalu ayyedi India. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10841 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Enti, Bose wanted INC to join hitler. Adi personal goal aa? He parted ways only bcoz of that. Similarly Gandhi almost gave in to Jinnah's demand for separate electorates. Adi personal demand aa. Ideas like this with disastrous consequences did not get implemented only bcoz of the leadership of Patel, Nehru, and the likes.
Stubborn, and adamant even after his death? 64 lo poyadu, 30yrs taruvatha, India adukkune stage ki vaste kaani manaku telivi raleda? Nehru di thappa, taruvatha leadership daa? Nehru, sure had his share of mistakes. Separation of state, and religion, not giving into Jinnah's unreasonable demands, etc are his contributions. We have to take them into account before judging him. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6899 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
what they had were personal goals and ideas. never got to the stage of implementing. sure. everyone makes mistakes. but great people also admit to making those mistakes and correct them. Nehru was stubborn and adamant about his mistakes. 50 years later is the best time to judge since during that time everyone is caught up in the hype. like what people do with ysr now. prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12644 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.23.151 Rating: |
Not completely True..aa rojullo mana so called ' Modern Thinkers' thought process..different ga undedi..right wing inka warast..hindi..hindu hindustan batch This is Ambedkars thought process.. http://www.ambedkar.org/ambcd/05B.%20Thoughts%20on%20Linguis tic%20States%20PART%20II.htm A linguistic State with its regional language as its official language may easily develop into an independent nationality. The road between an independent nationality and an independent State is very narrow. If this happens, India will cease to be Modern India we have and will become the medieval India consisting of a variety of States indulging in rivalry and warfare. This danger is of course inherent in the creation of linguistic States. There is equal danger in not having linguistic States. The former danger a wise and firm statesman can avert. But the dangers of a mixed State are greater and beyond the control of a statesman however eminent. How can this danger be met ? The only way I can think of meeting the danger is to provide in the Constitution that the regional language shall not be the official language of the State. The official language of the State shall be Hindi and until India becomes fit for this purpose English. Will Indians accept this ? If they do not, linguistic States may easily become a peril. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 30311 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
That was 1947, India. Dr. Martin Luther king died in 1968, fighting for blacks rights in usa, which got independence in 1776. | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10840 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
LOL..it is so easy to judge 50yrs later. I already gave examples on how Bose, and Gandhi also were wrong. After all they were all human. If you want a leader who does not make any "mistakes", good luck with that. Those who don't commit any mistakes are the ones who do not do anything. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6898 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
who was the president of Indian national congress in 1937 ? prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6897 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
sure. if your ideas and reputation are not consistent with your goals then the declaration of goals is all you need to establish someone's intent based on your posts below prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10839 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Enti deeniki Nehru de responsibility? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_with_official_status_ in_India Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6896 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
The Anti-Hindi agitations of Tamil Nadu were a series of agitations that happened in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu (formerly Madras State and part of Madras Presidency) during both pre- and post-Independence periods. The agitations involved several mass protests, riots, student and political movements in Tamil Nadu, and concerned the official status of Hindi in the state and in the Indian Republic. The first anti-Hindi agitation was launched in 1937, in opposition to the introduction of compulsory teaching of Hindi in the schools of Madras Presidency by the first Indian National Congress government led by C. Rajagopalachari (Rajaji). This move was immediately opposed by E. V. Ramasamy (Periyar) and the opposition Justice Party (later Dravidar Kazhagam). The agitation, which lasted three years, was multifaceted and involved fasts, conferences, marches, picketing and protests. The government responded with a crackdown resulting in the death of two protesters and the arrest of 1,198 persons including women and children. The mandatory Hindi education was later withdrawn by the British Governor of Madras Lord Erskine in February 1940 after the resignation of the Congress Government in 1939. Adoption of an official language for the Indian Republic was a hotly debated issue during the framing of the Indian Constitution after India's independence from Britain. After an exhaustive and divisive debate, Hindi was adopted as the official language of India with English continuing as an associate official language for a period of fifteen years, after which Hindi would become the sole official language. The new Constitution came into effect on 26 January 1950. Efforts by the Indian Government to make Hindi the sole official language after 1965 were not acceptable to many non-Hindi Indian states, who wanted the continued use of English. The Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK), a descendant of Dravidar Kazhagam, led the opposition to Hindi. To allay their fears, Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru enacted the Official Languages Act in 1963 to ensure the continuing use of English beyond 1965. The text of the Act did not satisfy the DMK and increased their skepticism that his assurances might not be honoured by future administrations. As the day (26 January 1965) of switching over to Hindi as sole official language approached, the anti-Hindi movement gained momentum in Madras State with increased support from college students. On 25 January, a full-scale riot broke out in the southern city of Madurai, sparked off by a minor altercation between agitating students and Congress party members. The riots spread all over Madras State, continued unabated for the next two months, and were marked by acts of violence, arson, looting, police firing and lathi charges. The Congress Government of the Madras State, called in paramilitary forces to quell the agitation; their involvement resulted in the deaths of about seventy persons (by official estimates) including two policemen. To calm the situation, Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri gave assurances that English would continue to be used as the official language as long the non-Hindi speaking states wanted. The riots subsided after Shastri's assurance, as did the student agitation prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10838 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Aithe KA Paul ki honest intentions unnayantavu. Who is perfect? Entho goppa leader aina SC Bose velli Hitler tho kaluddamu annadu. Nehru opposed it. Ippudu Bose durmargudu aipothada? Gandhi Muzs ki separate electorates ki almost ok ante, vaddu ani gattigaa vaadinchindi Nehru, and Patel. Poni vellu chetakani vallu ante inthakante thopulni vachi peekaddu ani evaru aapalede. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6895 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
please show me a note/letter/book/article from Nehru about the lessons he learned or the things he did wrong
Nehru elaborated the policies of the Congress and a future Indian nation under his leadership in 1929. He declared that the aims of the congress were freedom of religion, right to form associations, freedom of expression of thought, equality before law for every individual without distinction of caste, colour, creed or religion, protection to regional languages and cultures, safeguarding the interests of the peasants and labour, abolition of untouchability, introduction of adult franchise, imposition of prohibition, nationalisation of industries, socialism, and establishment of a secular India. All these aims formed the core of the "Fundamental Rights and Economic Policy" resolution drafted by Nehru in 1929-31 and were ratified by the All India Congress Committee under Gandhi's leadership.[26] However, some Congress leaders objected to the resolution and decided to oppose Nehru. prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10837 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Already cheppanu kadavayya. Formation of large states ki, reorganization ki antha favorable unde vallu kaadu for the fears of disintegration.
Deeniki Hindi ruddataniki relation ledu. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6894 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
http://awesomescreenshot.com/072avek79 Intent is never enough. If intent defines right or wrong we should all vote for k.a.paul as a favor to whom ? after how many lives lost ? isnt that a result of his policies initially prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10835 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Idi darunam. Socialism was successful, and very popular in those times. Aa influence undaddu ane elaga? Vallemanna votes lekkalu veskuni aa ideology form cheskunnara? Inkoti this should also tell you how unfair is it to pinpoint only Nehru. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6893 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
good point
only one of them proved to be right didnt they. we have the advantage of vision2020 why excuse someone of their mistakes when their claims were of the opposite. had he said look this might or might not work i don't know lets try it. thats not how they were implemented. they were implemented through an elaborate process of constitutional amendments and suppression of opposition rights Founder of a free country - http://awesomescreenshot.com/064avdie9 http://awesomescreenshot.com/025avdr1b aa rojullo opposition = ee rojullo tdp and communist parites. 9% reservation pedithe chaaladhu 15% kaavaali typeprajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10834 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
LOL, you are so misinformed. It was Nehru who made sure that English continues to be the official language when many said only Hindi was enough.
Dude, something like India was an experiment that had not been conducted anywhere in the world. Mistakes do happen, they were all humans. Do you think Nehru wanted India to be underdeveloped? Nehru opposed linguistic states for the same reasons I already mentioned. But did he not agree to later? Did they not show the wisdom of forming a states re-org commission? Compare that with today. Any policy/decision is taken not on the basis of its merit, but based on a single criterion - votes. I am not saying that Nehru was the greatest/wisest leader of the world. But was a lot better. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7651 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
populace* the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7650 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
Whole is not about the populate, but about the choices.
yes, i agree. may be Nehru was a complete snob, it doesnt bother me as much. If the leaders of that age did what they think is right, i give the benefit of doubt that probably it was, as long as we have reasons that they were honest in their pursuit. if we think it is wrong, and we need to the right thing, the responsibility is on us. Those leaders did their job, within their mental capabilities, but are we doing our job?
Not supporting Nehru here, but dont you think there will always be people saying the system isnt workign, no matter what? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6892 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
people don't make choices as a whole. they make choices as individuals. if you mean elections, they respond to the choices presented to them. from independence till now their choices have always ranged from left to far left. thats where a layman is different from founder of a nation prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6891 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
even if we assume what you said was correct, which i think is not, how is socialism a better model than federalism for the nation ? the unrest in some states may be because of having less political and economic freedoms, not more. Tamils may have been less offended if Hindi wasn't forced on them. same with gujarat and assam. if not for Nehru's opposition to linguistic separation of states there probably would have been more tolerance towards the union. btw your 1950s post has started me off on reading newspapers from those times. found something interesting pertinent to the topic http://awesomescreenshot.com/037avce59 it was not like nehru was oblivious of the results from his policies. in his lifetime he found out it was not working prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7649 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
almost every region had their doubts of joining the union. from gujarath to assam(which lasts even today ), and kashmir to kerala. i think the part that was most comfortable were the central northern states, which were more active in the pursuit of indian independence than the rest of the regions.
policies itself are free of social conditions, but the choices people make as a whole are dependent on situations. no matter how intelligent we claim ourselves to be, our decision making is just an outcome of our experiences and ability to visualize the outcomes.
yes, nothing wrong in it. people make choices and learn from mistakes(all systems have issues), but how soon do we realize the issues of the system and move forward from it is what matters. societies did not start with socialism, socialism is one of the newest societal experiments. we started free, more free than we can imagine today. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10833 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
The important point to note is that today, after staying together as a nation for 60+ yrs, such fears are irrelevant. But not in those times. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10832 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
I am not saying that federalism was not a good model. With so many powerful states coming under the constitution for the first time, there was naturally a fear that they will declare secession from the union, if they are given too much power/independence. Today we have more federalism, more decentralization till the state level. But it stopped there bcoz of power monger CMs. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6890 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
the underlying message i take from both of your posts is that economic policies are somehow dependent on social conditions. that is not true. across the globe you can see various cultures seeing results of economic policies adopted irrespective of region, religion, population etc. having socialism as a preamble engages govt resources in wealth distribution instead of protecting constitution rights of people. India is a classic example. we talk about freedoms rights but we don't even have the freedom to speak against a local MLA or Police prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7648 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
well, we need not necessarily think, split is a bad thing to happen, dont think im not a patriotic enough, but the split needs to be mutual(practically impossible avvochu, in most cases). we need to be mindful, Pak was more capitalist in their pursuit, albeit misguided, its just the honesty of the system in India lasted longer, and in the recent past its deteriorating to new levels with each passing day . the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6889 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
i don't understand your point. what happened in the 50s ? I am not aware of much social unrest in the country during 50s. by and large states seem to have been happy being part of the union after consolidation except in mumbai, tamilnadu, andhra but those have nothing to do with economic policies. are you saying that federalism was not a good model for India ? prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10831 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
500 princely states just integrated into the country, so many languages, religions, religion tho divide cheyali ani choose gajji gallu, castes, languages, states reorganization kavali ane vallu, vadhu ane vallu, water disputes, boundary disputes...the list goes on. Intha diversity undi inkaa country together undi ante kevalam the foundation laid by the leaders at that time. US lo unnadi okka language, aina mukkalu ayye stage vellindi. We should not forget that. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7647 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
while i agree to the intent, i think it just more than the education of Nehru et al. UK itself has moved away from these principles that we are seeing in our country. I see centralization as a forced choice in case of India, may be im wrong, but india was not united enough to make a decentralized setup after independence. it took almost 4 years after indepdence to make india a republic, without centralization efforts it would have taken longer and need less to say much more fierce civil disturbances, as there were around 500 princely states after independence and only a handful of them had actual governments. i think it took almost three years to make these princely states in to political entities. may be the country should have taken the risk, we will never know. i think it is naive to think that the first step taken determines the destination of any movement. coming to public mind set, there is not much change in the public mindset, we still give the same importance to blood, entitlement based on birth and whom we support. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10830 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Deeniki main reason..
If you have time read news papers of the 50s. It is not fair to pass judgements on what they did in the 50s. Nehru poyindi 62 lo, India liberalize ayyindi 90s lo. 40 yrs? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6887 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
any new country goes through labor pains and has challenges. the vision of the founders defines the future as a nation. it is easy to cut slack thinking those are different times but just like mathematics was not different in those days economics can also be not different. if only Nehru studied in US instead of UK India would have been a different country today. two big mistakes - 1)Centralized planning 2)Lack of property rights aa policies result unfolded like textbook resulting in what we have now in every sphere of India - politics, societal, economy wise, and finally public mindset prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10829 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Agree. Pvt institutions should have the option to opt out. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7646 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
but they should have a choice to opt out of it. aa freedom leka pothe, its almost tyrannical. school lo evar ki chaduvu cheppaalo kooda govt ela decide chesthundhi. its one thing if govt gives tax benefits or funds if they opt to go with this program, and this is completely different. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10828 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
1950s lo situation enti teliyakunda ippudu judgements ivvatam easy ne. 50's lo country mundu unna biggest challenge was to keep the country together. And I believe many decisions then were influenced by this. Btw, I don't support the mandate on Pvt schools, unless they are receiving some kind of funding/grant from the Govt. Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7645 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
socialism might have been a necessary evil when the citizens of a country in general are not on the same level of economic understanding. I feel most countries were shocked by the imperialist ruling of European conquests, that they tried too hard to protect their past, history and culture. Socialism was an easier option, apart from pro-religious ideals. its a natural reaction. but as countries progress, as their internal stability increases, countries should have adapted(some did), but in our case one family with their power thirst kept making the system a mockery. secular social republic great words on paper, but took the wrong turns, or rather made turn wrong for convenience . the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6883 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
ee molakalaki vittanaalu naati chachindi nehru gaadu kadha andhuke appadappudu alaa vaadi midhaki frustration potundhi. of course responsibility/blame should be equally shared by all the leaders/citizens who came after that who did not do enough to counter the ignorance of his policies rather they try to benefit from it. that is the nature of socialism. downward spiral of ignorance and greed trying to meet each other at a lower point prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7644 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
unna vaatini (govt schools) ni naakinsi, nest private schools meedha paddar anna maata. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6880 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
more govt offices more govt employees to harass private schools who did nothing to deserve that prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7643 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
seriously dheenini Chapter 3 of article 21 lo ettinattu naaku thelidhu. chass, if private schools wont comply they are fined anta. government pays per student charge for these kids to schools, ante idhi base sesukoni enni scams nadusthunaayo. so if now schools are getting payed for these students by government, who monitors their progress? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6879 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
theds aarogyam kosam appudappudu mandhu gundu vaadathaanu prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6878 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
govt regulation where it doesn't have any business. right to education annadhe oka boku concept. you don't have right to someone else's services. rights are what you are born with. mana desham lo ilaa food ki employment ki education ki rights ani chattaalu thayaaru chesi samardhavantham gaa nadustunna private operations naddi kudaa virustunnaaaru. adhi oka konam. inko konam chaali chaalani aadhaayam tho unde parents pillalni thahathu ki minchina schools lo cheristhe uniforms nundi sports kits varaku evi undavu aa pillalaki. excursion ki foreign pampinche schools untayi. vaati lo join cheyyadaaniki middle class parents elthe ne baabu meeru fees kadathaaru kaani andharu parents cars lo drop chestaaru meeru 2 wheeler midha drop chestaaru pillodu feel authaadu ani cheptaaru. that is their responsibility. to be continued prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 12642 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.252 Rating: N/A |
ippudu problem enti saar..konchum telugu lo cheppandi.. aa moola mental kurrodu cheyyathadhu..nuvvu cheppu bhayya | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6877 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
mandate meaning telusaa bhayya The Right to Education Act, passed in 2009, mandates that private schools set aside 25% of admissions for low-income, underprivileged and disabled students. In Delhi, families earning less than 100,000 rupees (about $2,500 a year) qualify. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870408390457633 7373758647478.html prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 7642 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
yes, ee ishayam meedha already mana idhariki disco ayinattu gurthu. private schools have no obligation to it. aalu sontha consitution ettukovachu, and some schools do it. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6875 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
really ? is it optional for private schools to not participate in it ? prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Indiarocks Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 10826 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Video choodaledu. RTE has nothing to do with a centralized plan of education. It only sets very broad guidelines. Main point is that the Center provides funding for elementary edu related policies to be designed by states, and local govts. As usual hijack chesara? Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6874 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
pillalanthaa emanna petetion pettukunnaara adhi congress mark politics nehru gaadu puttina roju pillala dinothsavam entandi cheap gaa alluri sitharama raju bhagat singh bose tagore vivekananda real heros lo evari peru midha aina holidays unnaya prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Chanakya950 Side Hero Username: Chanakya950 Post Number: 2125 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 115.252.3.229 Rating: N/A |
kakundane childrens day jarupukuntama A.P nunchi okka toppas gadiki kuda kaneesam A.P lo jarupukom u hurted feelings of crores of indians i need apology NAKU NEENE POTI NATO NAKE POTI  2014 cm-jagan/jaggu | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10339 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Mods ..gaadu ani 2 times used... please take appropriate yaction.. | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10338 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
desam lo kaadani nuvvu decide jeyyatam comedy le.. DB lo kaakapothe ippatnunchi celebrity. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6873 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
nehru gaadu db lo celebrity kaadhu. aa maatakosthe desam lone kaadhu. madhya lo ni phidelu vaayimpu endhi prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10334 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
if you dont like his views then ok anthe kaani gaadu geedu ante etlaa.. that is abuse i say. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6867 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
 prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6866 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
why just blame schools ? isnt that the nature of human mind ? don't we always make friends with similar social and economic status ? RTE is going damage the kids minds who cannot afford the same things that their classmates can. problem is with the law not with the school prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx | ||
| Chanakya950 Side Hero Username: Chanakya950 Post Number: 2124 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 115.252.3.229 Rating: |
 meeru goppa anukune stATE LEaders kante nehru chala goppavadu please dont comment on such great leaders NAKU NEENE POTI NATO NAKE POTI 2014 cm-jagan/jaggu | ||
| Ipc302 Moderator Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 14689 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
edemma Donga na kodukulu dabbu ledhi ani itta sesthara | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 10333 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
mods please ban | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 6863 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-nJ5eIMVM&feature=g-all-u Nehru gaadu chesina damage anthaa inthaa kaadhu ee planners ni chusthe brain strain authundhi Indians are overly nationalistic where not needed we dont need one language one culture one education system one centralized plan it is called homogenization national level lo i see these thinkers and planners talking and i feel sick to my stomach how much it is ingrained in our brains that centralized planning is good 10-20 people deciding what is good for a million schools and 100 million kids where do the parents stand in all this ? prajaa court - http://imgur.com/2Z3Kx |
