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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 9970 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 10:26 am: |
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Q. ~ What is the good of the institution of marriage? This relation restricts the liberty of people and entails great suffering on them. Therefore it is desirable that a couple should continue to live as man and wife as long as they love each other, and separate when they are tired of each other. A. ~ This is what beast and birds do. It does not become men to act like this. If the institution of marriage did not exist, all the amenities of domestic life would come to an end. None will serve another. Downright adultery and illicit connections will increase, all men and women will be afflicted with disease, physically and mentally, an will consequently die young, no one will fear another or be controlled by public opinion. Families upon families will be blotted out of existence in consequence of disease, physical and mental degeneration and premature death due to downright adultery and fornication. No one will have a title to succeed to another's property, nor will any person be able to retain possession of anything for any great length of time. All these evils can be best avoided by marriage. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9969 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:49 am: |
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Q. ~ Why should a man contract Niyoga when he can marry again? A. ~ We have already said that according to the injunctions of the Veda and the Shaastra among the twice-born a man or a woman may marry only once, never a second time. Justice demands that a bachelor, should be married to a virgin. It is unjust and therefore wrong for a widower to marry a virgin, and for a widow to marry a bachelor. Just as a bachelor does not like to marry a widow, so no virgin would like to marry a widower. If no virgin will marry a widower, and no bachelor will marry a widow, men and women will feel the necessity of contracting Niyoga. Moreover, dharma consists in mating likes alone. Q. ~ are there any Vedic and Shaastric authorities in favor of Niyoga, as there are in support of the marriage institution? A. ~ "O man and woman (connected by Niyoga), just as a widow, co-habits with her husband by Niyoga and produces children for him, and a wife co-habits with her husband by marriage and produces children for him, likewise (it may be asked) where both of you were during the day and during the night, and where you slept, who you are, and what your native place is." RIG VEDA 10: 40, 2. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9968 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:46 am: |
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Sindhooram:thammud..kasi bidda la unnav? eti maakee manTa..already ikkada Yekaram egirindi..inka entha lepa manTaav? cool drink taagu
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Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9967 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:44 am: |
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Q. ~ What conditions should be observed in the performance of the Niyoga ceremony? A. ~ 1. Niyoga is solemnized publicly even as marriage is. 2. Just as in marriage, the consent of the bride and the bridegroom and approval of good men are essential, even so it is in Niyoga, in other words, when a man and a woman have agreed to contract Niyoga, they should declare before an assembly of their male and female relations that they ent4er into the relation of Niyoga for begetting children, they will have sexual congress for generating anew life once a month, in case conception takes place they will not co-habit for one year. If they should go against that declaration they should be considered sinners and should be liable to punishment by the State and the Society. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9966 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:34 am: |
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only those quotes that explicitly refer to "Manu" are from manu..... rest are swami Dayanada's views |
   
Sindhooram
Junior Artist Username: Sindhooram
Post Number: 293 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 180.215.187.33
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:32 am: |
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Vjavasi:
thammud..kasi bidda la unnav? eti maakee manTa..already ikkada Yekaram egirindi..inka entha lepa manTaav? cool drink taagu "karmaNyE vaadhikaarastE, maaphalEshu kadaachanaa..maa karma phala hEturbhuuhu maatE sangOstva karmaNee" -- karmalanu aacharinchunTa yendE neeku adhikaaramunnadi kaanii vaani phalitamu paina lEdu.neevu karma phalamunaku kaaraNamu kaaraadu aTlani karmalanu chEyuTa maanaraadu |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9965 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:11 am: |
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contd young, desire for children and sexual enjoyment will drive people to the necessity of forming secret relations, if the laws of State or Society disallow lawful gratification. The only proper way of preventing adultery and illicit intimacies is to let those, who can control their passions, do without Niyoga or even marriage, but those who do not possess so much self-restraint must marry, and in case of emergency contract Niyoga, so that the chances of illicit intercourse may be greatly minimized, love between the husband and the wife enhanced, and consequently good children born, the human race improved, and the practice of feticide put a stop to. Marriage and Niyoga will do away with such wicked practices as illicit intimacy between a low Class man and a High class woman, or between a High class man and a Low Class woman (such as a public woman), contamination of noble families, extinction of the family line, mental anguish of bachelors and maids, of widows and widowers, feticide and the like crimes. For these reasons, contraction of Niyoga is desirable.
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Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9963 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:07 am: |
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Q. ~ But Niyoga looks like adultery. A.~ Just as sexual connection between persons that are not married is called adultery, so is sexual congress between widows and widowers not connected by Niyoga is an adulterous relation. Form this it follows that just as marriage solemnized according to the law is not fornication, even so Niyoga contracted according to the law cannot be termed fornication. If one's virgin daughter co-habits with a bachelor after the marriage ceremony, enjoined by the Shaastras, has been duly performed, this act is not regarded as adulterous or sinful, nor does it inspire shame, for the same reasons, Niyoga performed according to the Vedic injunction should not be regarded sinful, nor should it inspire a feeling of shame. 87 Q. ~ This is alright but it looks like prostitution. A. ~ No. A prostitute sticks to no particular man, nor is she governed in her sexual relation by any specific laws, while Niyoga marriage is governed by definite laws.. Just as one does not feel any shame in giving away his daughter in marriage to another person, in like manner there ought to be no shame in contracting Niyoga. People who are given to illicit intercourse do not give up this wicked habit even after marriage. Q. ~ To us it seems that Niyoga is a sinful practice. A. ~ If you think that Niyoga is sinful, why don't you regard marriage also as sinful? The sin rather consists in preventing people from contracting Niyoga, for according to the Divine laws of Nature, natural appetites cannot be controlled unless one be self-abnegating, profoundly learned, and a Yogi of the highest order. Don't you consider it a sin to procure abortion, destroy the fetus and inflict great mental suffering on widows and widowers (by preventing them from contracting Niyoga). For, so long as they are |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9962 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:05 am: |
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Q. ~What are the evils of re-marriage** (in the case of such persons)? A. ~ The following are the principal evils:- • Diminution of love between the husband and the wife, since either of them can desert the other whenever he or she so desires, and marry another person.*** • On the death of one party, the other will take away the property of his or her deceased consort when he or she marries again. This will give rise to family disputes. • If a widow re marries, many a noble family will be blotted out of existence, and its property destroyed (by constant alienation). • Re-marriage involves loss of true conjugal love and infraction of duty towards the departed husband or wife. For these reasons, re-marriage, polygamy and polyandry are prohibited in the case of the twice born. Q. ~ If one of the parties dies leaving no male issue, even then the family line will become extinct. Besides, if re-marriage be not allowed, the widows and widowers will resort to adultery and fornication, procure abortion, and will commit wicked deeds of a kindred nature. For these reasons re-marriage is desirable. A. ~ No. If the widows and widowers desire to practice Brahmacharya, no such evil consequences will accrue. Again, if the widow or widower adopts a boy of her and his Class, the family line will be continued and there will be no danger of adultery being restored to. Those, however, who cannot control their passions may beget children by having recourse to Niyoga. The difference of re-marriage and Niyoga Q. ~ What are the differences between re-marriage and Niyoga?A. ~ 1. After marriage the bride leaves her paternal roof, lives with her husband, and her relations with her relations with her father's family cease to be very close; on the contrary. The widow (in case she contracts Niyoga) continues to live in her deceased husband's house. 2. The children begotten of marriage inherit the property of their mother's husband, whereas, offspring begotten of Niyoga on a widow are not regarded as children of the begetter and consequently they don't take his surname, nor can they be claimed by him. They are spoken fo as the children of their mother's deceased husband, take his surname, inherit his property and live in his house. 3. Married people are required to serve and help each other, while those that contract Niyoga have to abandon all relations (after the stipulated period). 4. the relation of marriage is life-long, while the contract of Niyoga ceases to be operative after the desired object has been attained. 5. The husband and the wife help each other in the performance of their house hold duties, while those that have that have contracted Niyoga discharge the duties of their respective households. Q. ~ Do the same laws apply to Niyoga and marriage, or are they different in each case? A. ~ They are little different. A few differences have already been enumerated, and here are some more:- • A married couple can produce children up to the limit of ten, while that connected by Niyoga cannot produce more than two or four. • Jus as marriage is allowed only in the case of a bachelor and a maid, likewise only a widow and a widower can enter into the relation of Niyoga, but never a bachelor and a maid. • A married couple always lives together but not that connected by Niyoga. Such persons should come together only when they intend to generate a new life. Whether Niyoga is contracted for the benefit of the widow or of the widower, the relation is dissolved after the second conception. Let the widow rear the children for two or three years and hand them to her husband by Niyoga, in case it has been entered into for his behalf. In this way a widow can give birth to two children for herself and two for each of the four husbands by Niyoga. Similarly a widower can beget two children for himself and two for each of the four wives by Niyoga. Thus ten children in all can be produced by means of Niyoga. This is what the Veda declares:- "O thou who art fit to procreate and art strong, do thou raise upon the married wife or upon these widows, with whom thou hast contracted Niyoga, good children, and make them happy. Do thou beget with on thy married wife ten children, and consider her the eleventh (member of the family). O woman! Let ten children be raised on thee by the married husband or thy husbands by Niyoga and do thou consider thy husband as the eleventh (member of thy family)." Rig Veda 10: 85, 48.
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Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9961 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 09:01 am: |
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On widow Remarriage Q. ~Should a man or a woman marry more than once? A ~ Not when the other party is alive. Q ~Can one party re-marry when the other is dead? A. ~ Yes. Says the sage Manu on this subject. " A man or a woman, who ahs simply gone through the ceremony of joining hands* but whose marriage has not been consummated, is entitled to re-marry." MANU 9:179 But re-marriage is absolutely prohibited in the case of a twice born man or woman (i.e., one belonging to a Brahman, Kshatriya or Vaishya Class who has had sexual intercourse with his or her consort. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9960 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 08:26 am: |
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contd "Let women, therefore, be always honored by being given presents of clothes an ornaments, and supplied with good food at festivals, jubilees and he like occasions, and thereby made happy by those men who are desirous of wealth and prosperity." MANU 3: 59. In these quotations the word worshipped, of course, means duly honored. Let the husband and the wife whenever they separate from or meet each other for the first time during the day or the night, greet each other with Namastay which means , I respect you. "Let a woman attend to her household work most cheerfully and with great dexterity keep her utensils and apparel clean, her house tidy, her furniture free from dust, all eatables pure clean, and free from dirt. Let her never be lavish in expenditure. Let her cooking be done so nicely that the food may act on the system like a good medicine and keep away disease (bodily and mental). Let her keep a proper account of her (income and ) expenditure, and show it to her husband (if necessary), use her servants properly and see that nothing goes wrong in the house. MANU 5: 150. "Let a man accept (the hand of) a good woman, precious stone of different kinds, knowledge, truth purity, gentle speech and various technical arts from all men and from all countries." MANU 2: 240. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9959 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.122
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 08:25 am: |
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"He that is contented with his own wife and avoids conjugal embraces on the eight forbidden nights and is .Ritugaami* is a Brahmachari a married man though he be." MANU 3: 50 "Wherever the husband is quite contented wit his wife, and the wife with her husband, in that family alone all prosperity, fortune and happiness perpetually dwell. And wherever they disagree and squabble there poverty, ill-fortune and misery are assuredly permanent." MANU 3"60. "Certainly if the wife do not love and please her husband, being unhappy he will not be sexually excited, and, consequently no offspring will be produced. But even if the children are born, they are very wicked and of a low type." MANU 3: 61. "If the husband does not please his wife, she being unhappy, the whole family is unhappy and miserable; but if the wife be quite contended with her husband, the whole family enjoys felicity." MANU 3: 62. "Let women be always propitiated (worshipped) by their fathers and brothers, by their husbands and the brothers of their husbands, in other words, they should speak sweetly to them and provide them with good food, nice clothes and ornaments, and thereby keep them happy. Those who seek great prosperity and happiness should never inflict pain on women." MANU 3: 55. "Where women are honored (worshipped), in that family great men are born; but where they are not honored, there all acts are fruitless. Where women pass their days in misery and sorrow because of the misdeed (such as adultery) of their husbands that family soon entirely perishes, but where they are happy because of the good conduct of their husbands, the family continually prospers." MANU 3: 56, 57. |
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