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     Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 268 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
If you read the previous post - you might wonder how did Vishnu get promoted from a younger brother of Indra to the Supreme God ? The answers are probably in this article below  http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/encyclopedia/hindu/devot/vaish.htm l Vishnu is a solar deity in the Vedas, but the origin of Vaishnavism is not Vedic. It comes more from the pre-Vedic, non-Aryan bhakti, devotional cult. As Vedism declined, this cult emerged strongly, and was centred on Vasudeva, the deified Vrsni hero. There is evidence that worship of Vasudeva and not Vishnu came at the beginning of Vaishnavism. This earliest phase was established from the sixth to the fifth centuries BCE at the time of Panini, who in his Astadhyayi explained the word vasudevaka as a bhakta, devotee, of Vasudeva. Another cult which flourished with the decline of Vedism was centred on Krishna, the deified tribal hero and religious leader of the Yadavas. The Vrsnis and Yadavas came closer together, resulting in the merging of Vasudeva and Krishna, This was as early as the fourth century BCE according to evidence in Megasthenes and in the Arthasastra of Kautilya. Vasudeva-Krishna liberates the throne of Mathura from his evil kinsman Kamsa, travels to the city of Dvaraka on the Arabian Sea to establish a dynasty, and in the Mahabharata he counsels his cousins the Pandavas in their battle with the Kauravas. This then took sectarian form as the Pancaratra or Bhagavata religion. A tribe of ksatriyas, warriors, called the Satvata, were bhagavatas and were seen by the Greek writer Megasthenes at the end of the fourth century BCE. This sect then combined with the cult of Narayana, a demiurge god-creator who later became one of the names of Vishnu. Soon after the start of the Common Era, the Abhiras or cowherds of a foreign tribe, contributed Gopala Krishna, the young Krishna, who was adopted by the Abhiras and worked as a cowherd and flirted with the cowherdesses. Only as a mature young man did he return to Mathura and slay Kamsa. The Vasudeva, Krishna, and Gopala cults became integrated through new legends into Greater Krishnaism, the second and most outstanding phase of Vaishnavism. Being non-Vedic, Krishnaism then started to affiliate with Vedism so that the orthodox would find it acceptable. Vishnu of the Rg Veda was assimilated into Krishnaism and became the supreme God who incarnates whenever necessary to save the world. Krishna became one of the avataras of Vishnu. In the eighth century CE the bhakti of Vaishnavism came into contact with Shankara's Advaita doctrine of spiritual monism and world-illusion. This philosophy was considered destructive of bhakti and important opposition in South India came from Ramanuja in the eleventh century and Madhva in the fifteenth century. Ramanuja stressed Vishnu as Narayana and built on the bhakti tradition of the Alvars, poet-saints of South India from the sixth to the ninth centuries (see Shri Vaishnavas). In North India there were new Vaishnava movements: Nimbarka in the fourteenth century with the cult of Radha, Krishna's favourite cowgirl (see Nimavats); Ramananda and the cult of Rama in the same century (see Ramanandis); Kabir in the fifteenth century, whose god is Rama (see Kabirpanthis); Vallabha in the sixteenth century with the worship of the boy Krishna and Radha (see Vallabhas); and Caitanya in the same century with his worship of the grown-up Krishna and Radha (see Gaudiya Vaishnavas). In the Maratha country poet-saints such as Namdev and Tukaram from the fourteenth to the seventeenth centuries worshipped Vishnu in the form of Vithoba of Pandharpur (see Vitthalas). aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 267 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.130.102 Rating: N/A |
Interesting piece on origin/evolution/extinction of Hindu Gods http://ssubbanna.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/10/rig-veda-orig in-of-our-popular-gods-in-rig-veda-6-7.htm From the above link: Most of our popular gods of today have their origin in the Rig-Veda. It would be interesting to trace the origin of a few of our popular gods. When I say gods, I am not referring to the God the Supreme principle the substratum of all existence but to the gods who represent different aspects, powers and glory of the God. Each Vedic god has a distinct power and personality, but he or she also carries the presence of the Supreme, "That one." The puranas tried to convey the esoteric truths of the Veda in a popular manner. In the process Puranas elevated some Vedic gods by endowing them with virtues, which they loved to see; while at the same time they relegated some other Vedic gods to secondary status. I am not sure why the exercise of weeding out many and glorifying a few deties became necessary. I am clueless. For instance, BÅihaspathi, BrahmaÅaspathi and Brahma were the three major gods of Rig-Veda; a large number of riks are in honor of these gods. In the Rig-Veda, BrahmaÅaspathi/BÅihaspathi is god of a very high order. There are over one hundred riks in praise of these two deities, giving a picture of their powers and personalities. However, the statuses of these Vedic Gods underwent a huge change in the Puranas; when new set of gods that emerged by the permutation and combination of their own (Vedic gods) powers replaced them. The new gods took over and the old gods were virtually forgotten. Ganapathi : The elephant-faced god GaÅapathi emerged out of some aspects of the Vedic god BrahmaÅaspati. Ganapathi is therefore evoked by the Vedic rik associated with BrahmaÅaspati (Jestha rajam brahmanaam Brahmanaspathi...). The word GaÅapathi means the lord of gaÅas or hosts. In the Rig-Veda, the gaÅÄs or hosts of BÅihaspathi/BrahmaÅaspathi are the chants, the riks and the stomas, the words of praise (RV. 4.50). They have little to do with the lower vital levels. However, in the purÄÅas, the hosts (gaÅas) are the beings of the vital world and GaÅapathi is their lord. Ganapathi thus initially appeared on the scene as a tÄntrik god of a lower order. Ganesha emerged as a distinct deity in clearly recognizable form in the fourth and the fifth centuries during the Gupta period. His popularity rose quickly. The son of Shiva and Parvati; Ganesha with an elephantine countenance, a curved trunk, pair of big ears and a pot-bellied body of a human is now the Lord of success and destroyer of evils and obstacles. He is the god of education, knowledge, wisdom and wealth. Ganesha also became one of the five prime Hindu deities (Surya, Vishnu, Shiva and Durga being the other four) worshipped in the panchayatana puja. A new tradition called Ganapathya thereafter came into existence. With the spread Indian trade to the Far- East, by around the tenth century, Ganesha a favorite with the traders and merchants reached the shores of Bali, Java, Cambodia, Malaya, Thailand and other islands. Ganesha appears in Jainism too. A fifteenth century Jain text provides procedures for the installation of Ganapati images. Images of Ganesha appear in the Jain temples of Rajasthan and Gujarat; the earliest of which is dated around eighth century. In Buddhism, Ganesha appears not only in the form of the Buddhist god VinÄyaka, but also as a Hindu demon form with the same name (VinÄyaka). As the Buddhist god VinÄyaka, he is the dancing N á¹ tta Ganapati. Ganesha traveled to other countries along with Buddhism. In northern China, the earliest known stone statue of Ganesha carries an inscription dated 531 CE. In Japan, the Ganesha cult was first mentioned in 806 CE. Brahma: The concept of Brahma as the creator in the purÄÅa is derived from the BrahmaÅaspati/BÅhaspati of the Rig Veda where they are the creators through the power of the Word. Puranas however denied Brahma proper worship. Between these two stages, Brahma is associated with the power to give a verbal identity to a thought. He is the creator and gives form to the formless. He represents Word. That word reaches sublime heights and becomes an intelligent tool for communication when it is associated with intellectual purity and excellence of Vac- the speech. Vac (Sarasvathi). How the Vedic goddess Vac (speech) transformed into Sarasvathi the Puranic goddess of learning, wisdom, culture and intellect; is very interesting. In Rig Veda, Vac is the goddess associated with speech, a concept of central importance to the Vedas. Vac, the speech gives a sensible expression to ideas by use of words and is the medium of exchange of knowledge. She gives intelligence to those who love her. She is the power of the rishis. âShe is the mysterious presence that enables one to hear, see, grasp and then express in words the true nature of things. She is the prompter of and vehicle of expression for visionary perception, and as such she is intimately associated with the rishis and the rituals that express or capture the truths of their visions.â (Rig Veda). In a passage of the Rig Veda, Vac is praised as a divine being. Vac is omnipotent, moves amongst divine beings, and carries the great gods, Mitra, Varuna, Indra and Agni, within itself. "All gods live from Vac, also all demigods, animals and people. Vac is the eternal being; it is the first-born of the eternal law, mother of the Vedas and navel of immortality." The reason, the Vedic rishis paid such glowing tributes to Vac was perhaps because they attached great importance to intelligent communication through speech and to its purity. In the later parts of the Rig Veda, Brahman (one of the three distinct voices in the Soma sacrifices) is associated with word without which speech is not possible. Brahma (word) and Vac (speech) are partners working towards good communication, spread of knowledge and for the fulfillment of the devoteesâ aspirations. If word is flower, speech is the garland. If Vac is the weapons, it is Brahman that sharpens them. In Rig Veda the Vac-Brahman relation is a "growing partnership" (RV 10.120.5, and 9.97.34) http://www.vedavid.org/diss/dissnew5.html#246 In the early Rig Veda, Sarasvathi is the river vital to their life and existence. Sarasvathi is described as 'nadinam shuci; sacred and pure among rivers. It was, however, in Krishna Yajurveda, that Vac (speech personified, the vehicle of knowledge) for the first time is called Sarasvathi. The Aitreya Aranyaka calls her mother of Vedas. From here on, the association of Vac with Sarasvathi gets thicker. Sarasvathi is invoked with Ida and Bharathi. The three, Ida, Bharathi and Sarasvathi are manifestation of the Agni (Yajnuagni) and are tri_Sarasvathi. The goddess Sarasvathi is also the destroyer of Vrta and other demons that stand for darkness (Utasya nah Sarasvati ghora Hiranyavartanih / Vrtraghni vasti sustuition). As the might of the river Sarasvathi tended to decline, its importance also lessened during the latter parts of the Vedas. Its virtues of glory, purity and importance gradually shifted to the next most important thing in their life â speech, excellence in use of words and its purity. Emphasis shifted from the river to the Goddess With the passage of time, Sarasvathiâs association with the river gradually diminished. The virtues of Vac and the Sarasvathi (the river) merged into one divinity- Sarasvathi; and she was recognized and worshipped as goddess of purity, speech, learning, wisdom, culture and intellect. The Rig Vedic goddess Vac thus emerged and shined gloriously as Vac-devi, Vedamatha, Vani, Sharada, Pusti, Vagishvari, Veenapani , Bharathi and Sarasvathi.( http://orissagov.nic.in/emagazine/Orissareview/febmar2005/en glishpdf/saraswati.pdf ) The association of the intellect and purity (Vac, Sarasvathi) with the word (Brahma) acquired a physical representation in the Puranas. Vishnu: (the pervader) Vishnu initially had a lower position to that of Indra. He is the younger brother of Indra. In the Rig-Veda Vishnu is described as living and wandering on the mountains. He is one of the celestial gods and one of the Adithyas. He resembles Surya and has rays in his appearance. He later evolved into the most signifificant God and Godhead. The 'Vishnu Sukta' of the Rig Veda (1.154) mentions the famous three strides of Vishnu. It said that the first and second of Vishnu's strides (those encompassing the earth and air) were visible and the third was in the heights of heaven (sky). The second mantra of the 'Vishnu Sukta' says that within the three vast strides of Vishnu all the various regions of the universe live in peace. Yaskacharya, in his Nirukta, defines Vishnu as 'Vishnu vishateh; one who enters everywhere', and 'yad vishito bhavati tad vishnurbhavati; that which is free from fetters and bondages is Vishnu.' Vishnu is also characterized, as 'veveshti vyapnoti vishvam yah; the one who covers the whole universe, or is omnipresent. In other words, Vishnu became the omnipresent dimension of the supreme Lord. With the advent of the golden age of the puranas in the Gupta period, the transformation of Vishnu into a supreme Godhead was complete. The virtues and glory of the Vedic Indra and Surya were transferred to puranic Vishnu. At the same time, the Indra was demoted to a demigod, stripped of his power and glory. Indraâs status in puranas is pathetic and he is flawed by envy, greed and other human failings. How sad! In this process, Vishnu, in place of Indra, became the lord of the universe. The attributes and titles that once applied to Indra were now employed to describe Vishnu. Now, Vishnu (not Indra) is the omniscient and omnipresent Godhead; he is âashrutkarna; whose ears hear all things; and "Svayambhuva" meaning âSelf-existentâ or âSelf manifestedâ The Bhagavata Purana states that Yajna (Indra) took incarnation as Svayambhuva Manu. That Indra was Vishnu (as Svayambhuva). Vishnu in turn becomes Dhanvantri the divine healer, Prithu the King and the Rishis such as Kapila. His later Avatars are celebrated in various Puranas. On his association with Narayana, he is The Supreme Lord of the universe. Rudra/siva: In Rig Veda, Rudra is one of the intermediate level gods (antariksha devata) and is celebrated in three or four hymns and described as a fierce, armed with bow and arrows. He is endowed with strong arms, lustrous body and flowing golden hair. He is not purely benefic like other Rig Vedic gods, but he is not malevolent either. He punishes and at the same time rescues his devotees from trouble. He is the Shiva the auspicious one. In Puranas, he becomes one of the Trinity and is the destroyer. He is the Lord of the universe, the cosmic dancer, the Supreme yogi and master of all yogis. Vedic Rishi Vamadeva merges into to become one of five faces of Lord Shiva and the aspect of Vama or "preserver" associated with the element of water. He is at his benevolent best when his consort Uma accompanies him. He is Sowmya (sa uma) aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Jkm Junior Artist Username: Jkm Post Number: 359 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.192.61.75 Rating: N/A |
yes. big world religions annitiki founders vunnaru. old popular religions like hinduism , judaism, shinto ki founders leru. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 565 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 210.214.50.242 Rating: N/A |
Except Hinduism which is timeless and founderless.. all other religions were formed as a reactionary process.. the founders sure might have had passion and principles.. but Alas.. the Human fallacy.. the flights of fancy.. are incorrigible.. The pathetic pitiable position of present day Mankind proves the infallible failure and futility of the very existence of myriad cults and religions... | ||
| Jkm Junior Artist Username: Jkm Post Number: 354 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.192.61.75 Rating: N/A |
My favorite Basavanna's Vachana * ullavaru shivalaya maaduvaru naanena maadali badavanayya, enna kaale kamba dehave degula shirave honna kalashavayya Koodala Sangama Deva kelayya sthavarakkalivuntu jangamakalivilla transliterated as * The rich will make temples for Shiva. What shall I, a poor man, do? My legs are pillars, The body the shrine, The head a cupola of gold. Listen, O lord of the meeting rivers, Things standing shall fall, But the moving ever shall stay. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. | ||
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18th century lo industrial revolution , 20th century lo IT revolution jariginattu indian sub continent lo 11th, 12th centuries hindu religious revolutionary period. i am not talking about shivates and vaishnavites. naaku thelisina oka funny caste story chebuthanu. andhra caste gurinchi kaadule. fights ki ready avvoddu. Lingayat ane caste(????) mostly andaru vine vuntaru. aa janam karnataka lo vuntaru. AP lo kooda chala mandi vunnaru. Hyd, telangala lo. ippudu karnataka lo power lo vunna BJP mostly backed by lingayats. lingayats and vokkaligas caste basis meeda kottukuntu vuntaru karnataka lo. vokkaligas ante Deve Gouda janam. assalu ee caste(???) ela form ayindo ippudunna paristhithi thelisthe navvu vastundi.it was a movement against caste system in south india. during 12 th century. There is no God as an eternal deity anna Gautama became a deity annattu Lingayatism movement started by Basavanna and Akka MahaDevi. 12th century Lingayats ante anya jathulu. mostly sudras. believers of siva linga. sub sect of shivism . vaishnavites ki veellaki eppudu fights jarigevi. Lingayats are pure vegetarians like vaishnavites . Lingayats are vegetarian because of Basavanna. Basavanna gurinchi nenu cheppedanikante already vunna article ikkada paste chesthe baguntundi. from www.kerala.com/wiki-Basavanna Basava (also known as Basaveshwara or Basavanna ( 1134 to 1196) was a philosopher and a social reformer. He fought against practice of caste system and rituals in Hinduism. He is also called as "Vishwa-guru". His teachings and preachings go beyond all boundaries and are universal and eternal. He was a great humanitarian. Basava advocated a new way of life wherein the divine experience was the center of life giving equal opportunity to all aspirants regardless of the gender, caste, and social status. The cornerstone behind his movement was the firm belief in a universal concept of God. Basava has a proponent of monotheistic concept of formless God. A true visionary with ideas ahead of his time, he envisioned a society that flourished enriching one and all. In addition to being a great mystic, Basava was the Prime Minister of the Southern Kalachuri Empire in South India and originated a literary revolution by introducing Vachana Sahitya. Basava is said to have been a mystic by temperament, an idealist by choice, a statesman by profession, a man of letters by taste, a humanist by sympathy, and a social reformer by conviction. Many great yogis and mystics of the time joined his movement enriching it with the essence of divine experience in the form of Vachanas (Lit. sayings - sacred hymns in Kannada) that define a new way of looking at God and life. Basava's path later gave birth to a new religion (or "Sampradaya") called Lingavanta Dharma or Lingayata. Other synonyms for lingayata are: Basava Dharma, Sharana Dharma, Vachana Dharma. Early life It is believed that Basava was born into a Brahmin family (there are contesting views on his caste) residing in the small town of Basavana Bagewadi in the Bijapur district of northern Karnataka, India in 1134, Basava grew up in a strict, religious household where he was made to wear a sacred thread known as the Janivara. He did not accept the Janivara. He rejected the religion based on agamas, shastras, and puranas which were written in Sanskrit and was not reachable to common people. He did not accept the ritual rites. But Vachanas are basically essence of Vedas written in simple spoken Kannada language. Common people could easily understand the content of any Vachanas. The Great Religious Development He left Bagewadi and spent the next 12 years studying Sangameshwara, at the then-Shaivite stronghold of Kudala Sangama. There, he conversed with scholars and developed his spiritual and religious views in association with his societal understanding. His views included believing there is only one true, perfect God; additionally, he created people who perform social services like removal of untouchabilty, superstitiousness, confusions, temple culture, and priesthoodness. He believed people who were in search of a false god needed to be shown the right way. He preached equality among humankind and condemned all barriers of caste, creed and sex, fighting against the caste system. He is also known as Krantikari (revolutionary) Basavanna for his revolution in the social system of the 12th century. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 561 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 210.214.50.242 Rating: N/A |
What is Universal Brotherhood.. what is Universal Equality.. these silly sissy utopian theories have been propounded to pamper ••••• wussie minded people.. no need to be apologetic.. Man is just another species on earth.. no two creatures even within a same species are similar.. Inequality is Inherent in creation and evolution.. All dogs are not same.. All cats are not same.. sooner stupid Mankind realizes this the better for the cry babies... | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 560 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 210.214.50.242 Rating: N/A |
What about Kailash in Tibet.. what about Kasi Viswanath.. Siva worship went well beyond India.. one can see primitive tribal instincts in it... | ||
| Gotcha Junior Artist Username: Gotcha Post Number: 319 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.1.161.76 Rating: N/A |
mahastrians may also be dravidians but I have my doubts. they don't worship any lingas but shiva. I believe shivaites are the real Indians. | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 481 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.165 Rating: N/A |
I guess so..Story shivudi ayinappudu, editing evaridi unna okay. | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 345 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
I think this masala addition. | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 344 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
naaku aryan snakes(like Iamim, sindhooram) ante special interest and hobby. | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 480 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.165 Rating: N/A |
I know both are differemt..But bother are realted to dierty , shiva..So one cannot ignore Pancharamams,bcoz of other. | ||
| Basky_indya Side Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 3574 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 144.226.230.37 Rating: N/A |
pancharamams and dwaaadasha (12) jyothirlingams are different all india Utter Flop Hero Fans UUUUth President | ||
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Pancharama Kshetras From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Pancharama Kshetras are five ancient Hindu temples of Lord Shiva situated in Andhra Pradesh. The Sivalingas at these temples are made from a single Sivalinga. As per the legend, this Sivalinga was owned by the Rakshasa King Tarakasura. Nobody could win over him due to the power of this Sivalinga. Finally Lord Kumaraswamy broke this Sivalinga into five pieces and killed Tarakasura. The five pieces of Sivalinga fallen at five different places on earth. These five pieces are installed as Shivalingas at five different Temples by Indra, Surya, Chandra, Vishnu and Kumaraswamy at the respective places. These places (or Aaramas) are as follows Amaravathi Amararama Draksharamam Draksharama Ramachandrapuram Somarama Palakollu Ksheerarama Smarlakota Kumararama. The construction of draksharamam :- The village is called Dakshina kasi.The Siva linga in this temple is said to be a one large Crystal ,which is 2.6 meters high.Shiva is accompanied by Dakshayani,who is the first wife of Shiva(also the daughter of Daksha,so is the name Dakshayani).Manikyamba goddess ,said to be one part of Sati devi, among 18 pieces ,that fell here ,is a Shakti peet.As per the Government of India,the temple construction was started in mid 800A.D and completed somewhere around 11th century.This is the glorious era of kakatiyas.kakatiyas are hardcore devotees of rudreswara, other name of shiva. | ||
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sopathi, nuvvu eee topics meedha thappa, vere topics meedha DB lo postlu veyyava. just a doubt all india Utter Flop Hero Fans UUUUth President | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 343 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
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| Basky_indya Side Hero Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 3572 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 144.226.230.37 Rating: N/A |
i am a dravidian. so i am happy that I will not face the WRATH of sopathi all india Utter Flop Hero Fans UUUUth President | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 342 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
even the maratha armys war cry was "hara hara mahadeva" marathis are our lost dravidian brothers to aryanisation. | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 341 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
max jyothirlingams are there in maharashtra not tamilnadu. maharashtra was dravidian in postvedic era. | ||
| Gotcha Junior Artist Username: Gotcha Post Number: 318 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.1.161.76 Rating: N/A |
sopathi yes. | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 340 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
do u mean jyothirlingams? | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 339 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
oho atlana, arya mahanubhava. | ||
| Gotcha Junior Artist Username: Gotcha Post Number: 317 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.1.161.76 Rating: N/A |
as per one of my tamilian friend, there are i think 9 shiva sacred places(edo peru chepadu), out of them only srisailam is from AP and rest are from rest of India(more prominently read as TN). | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 338 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: N/A |
dravidians are aborigines too. austroid/munda languages were born in indo-china dravidian languages are born in india | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 476 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.170 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for clearly putting in .dint know such a basic practice involved in railway guage and fuel tanks of shuttlespace.No wonder Inquisitive kids also to get impressed with this crystal clear and polished deductive. | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 266 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.17 Rating: N/A |
Yahoo, Its an example we use frequently when talking about questioning practices and the mindset of  â but this is the only right way to do things â ⦠Let me explain it in chronological order ⦠ Days of wild west , horse drawn carriages ⦠the first few carriage widths were defined by the wheel span â this was based on how close together the horses could be harnessed to the cart. After a few runs the carts left a rut in the roads â and any variation in wheelspan would cause a bumpy ride with wheels going in and out of the rut ⦠so they started standardising the wheel span to run in the existing rut J When they started building railroads and were looking for a standard guage â they used the width of thos ruts â or maybe even laid some tracks in those ruts J Fuel tanks(the orange ones you see attached to the shuttle for blast off)  for space shuttle are shipped by train to Cape Canaveral . So they can only be a certain width to fit on the train wagon. In effect the latest space technology has been limited /defined by the size of  a horse â s hindside J My kids loved it when I told them the story aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Junior Artist Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 535 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
Anand how does he remember all these things? Small correction, I go with my parents once in while, my parents are followers of Rmachandra mission. Any way "vinadagunevvaru cheppina" annaru peddalu  Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 5786 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.0.13.16 Rating: N/A |
Yehe.. just an analogy for religious practises ani andy gaaru cheppavattinru.. 'Necessity' is the mom for invention ani.. religion koodaa ganthe ani summary.. Edi emainaa, mana religion lo 'Universal Brotherhood' lekapovadam kadu sochaneeyam, daarunam.. I just dont like it.. Venkat ni soodaneeki 500Rs iste oka laa, 5000 iste oka laa, free aithe oka laa.. enduku vayaa ee differences? thu.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 473 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.170 Rating: N/A |
Could you elaborate this.Found interesting. | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 265 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.12 Rating: N/A |
EK, Doing good .how r u ? monna vivek to various missions philosophy variations gurinchi matladutunte he mentioned you follow ramachandra mission aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Junior Artist Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 533 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
akka ela unnaru? emi ee thread loki finalga entry icharaa? Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 263 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.11 Rating: N/A |
rofl - open mind anagane bhujalu tadimings what I meant is beopen to questing your own beliefs and perceptions - be objectively able to distinguish between practice and principle An interesting example - what defined the diamter of nasa's fuel tanks for space ships? the width of a train wagon,which is because of the track guage and the track guage was defined by the width of the rut of horse drawn carriages so what actually defined the diameter of the fuel tank ? the width of two horses backside many religious practices started like that - necessity of the times ,becoming a practice and oncethe neccessity is gone just a ritual/superstition...which really has no significance in current world...e.g.caste the ability to distinguish those from ones tha are always relevant is where the open mind part comes in aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Telugu_times Side Hero Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 4222 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: |
aaa gatha saaru gippudu yaadundo emo gaani, mana bathukulatho football aadu kundu. jarutha anaywadu, gatha anaywadu, ahura mazda, hussain honda ..... sukkal soopettetodu. | ||
| Savage Comedian Username: Savage Post Number: 1490 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.53 Rating: |
TT Hussaini Brahmin  ---Ahura Mazda | ||
| Telugu_times Side Hero Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 4218 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
it is very difficult to comprehend the big picture if you restrict your viewing window >>>>  . is that line for me anand jee?  | ||
| Rajusk Junior Artist Username: Rajusk Post Number: 931 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
ee davilog naaku chaala ishtam...Andaz Apna Apna lo start ayyindi...aa tharuvatha naaku baga alaavatu ayyipoyindi daily life lo... | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 5775 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
I have very open mind ya. Universal Brotherhood leni religion antene naaku sirrethhipotadi.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 5774 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
 In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 262 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.249 Rating: N/A |
Mclovin, Net meda chala resources unnayi - hinduwebsite.com lo V.Jayaram gari articles naku baaga nachayi. I have many links at home - specific interest area email id post cheste I will email them to you but prerequisite is an open mind-hinduism is a religion that was built on debate,questioning and evolution of thought.it is very difficult to comprehend the big picture if you restrict your viewing window aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Rajusk Junior Artist Username: Rajusk Post Number: 930 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
anna,the concept got corrupted somewhere in between. To begin with...evadu ee vruthi teesukontadu vaadu aa class (varnalalo okati) ki chendinavaadu kinda vachevaadu...over the period ..some of them became hereditary... madyalo ekkado galthi se mistake valla..nuvvu cheppinavi anni creep in ayyinayi..with all the loopholes the religion has withstood the test of time and tyranny of so many invadors ante..andulo edo lenide jaragadu kada.. | ||
| Telugu_times Side Hero Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 4214 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
anand G yedu samudhralu dhaatithey, edho avuthundhi hinduism ni, 4 gaa divide chesi, top iddharu, bottom iddharni discriminate cheyyadam, asalu temples lokay raanivvaka povadam. veray matham nunchi, evadini conversion ki allow cheyyaka povadam blah blah Like you said, naaku gooda hinduism gurinchi chaala thakkuva telusu (thurkolla gurinchi shaana ekkuva thelsu, that is not the point here ), shoodhrulani, evaru, ye basis meedha decide chesindru. gee manu ollu? | ||
| Rajusk Junior Artist Username: Rajusk Post Number: 929 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
You can read any text...from Bhagavadgita,Bhagavatam, Upanishads,Vedas,Ramayanam,Mahabharatam, to name a few...fortunately most of them are now available on the internet in English also... | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 5769 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Explore elaa cheyyaali? Ekkada cheyyaali? In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Savage Comedian Username: Savage Post Number: 1489 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.53 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu correct ga chepparu | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 261 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.12 Rating: N/A |
TT, Religion bavilo kappa enduku avutundi ? followers avutaru kani anni religion followers exhibit that behavior -they know only their well tragedy of hinduism is that majority of the hindus do not even try to explore their own well...hinduism lo sects,deities or practices ki meaning kuda telusukovataniki effort pettaru - that is not the shortcoming of the religion aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Yahoo Junior Artist Username: Yahoo Post Number: 466 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 130.236.188.170 Rating: N/A |
True...Add Vemulawada,Draksharamam,Paalakollu,Samarlakota,Amaravathi,Ra ama chandra puran, Paanugallu,Raamappa,Hanamakonda,warangal and all kakatiya dynasty remnants. 12 th cenurty to 16 century-- Glorious times of shivaites. | ||
| Rajusk Junior Artist Username: Rajusk Post Number: 924 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.93.90.250 Rating: N/A |
good that Shankaracharya ...and later on saints made people follow Smarthism...otherwise India probably would have been another hot bed of wars between the two like Shia and Sunni..who knows.. | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 260 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.183.51.11 Rating: N/A |
Nani, ee link chaduvukondi http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/sects.htm aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 558 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 221.134.208.186 Rating: N/A |
Dichotomy exists in all religions.. there is no religion that has no branches and sects... anyway Hinduism is timeless and has survived while many others have fallen.. its a question of Class Vs Mass.. Hinduism is for intellectuals... | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 557 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 221.134.208.186 Rating: N/A |
The only aborigines of India are certain Austroid tribes.. but unfortunately their religion seems to died... | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 556 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 221.134.208.186 Rating: N/A |
Aryans are better Pagans than Dravidians.. there is a theory that Kaba is actually a Siva Lingam.. so Siva Worship is not confined to TN.. AP has better Saivaite Kshetrams than TN in Srisailam.. Srikalahasti... | ||
| Platypus Junior Artist Username: Platypus Post Number: 95 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 125.16.17.151 Rating: N/A |
Saivites, vaishnavites kakunda vaidukula sect kooda undi. Veellu idol worship cheyyaru. For them, Vedas are the Supreme form of God. | ||
| Gotcha Junior Artist Username: Gotcha Post Number: 316 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.1.161.76 Rating: N/A |
Shivaites can be called the original Indians if the aryan theory is true. Their worship has resemblance to pagans as they worship phallus. so most of Dravidian's may be shivaites. so most of them can be found in TN. Vaishnavaites may be migrants and not aborgines of india. Since telugu people have shades of migrants not many shivaites can be found in our state compared to TN. | ||
| Jkm Junior Artist Username: Jkm Post Number: 351 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.192.61.75 Rating: N/A |
The Four Main Denominations of Hinduism 1. Vaishnavas worship Vishnu (usually as Krishna or Rama) 2. Shaivas worship Shiva (often in the form of the linga) 3. Shaktas worship Shakti, also known as Devi (especially Parvati, Durga, Kali) 4. Smartas worship five deities i.e. Vishnu, Shiva, Devi, Ganesh, and Surya http://hinduism.iskcon.com/tradition/1200.htm Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind. | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Junior Artist Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 530 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.202.120.244 Rating: N/A |
Nani basic ga emiledu mana historylo rendu rendu seperate relgionsga undevi tarvatha mellaga kalsipoyayi anthe Ippatiki lingayats in Karnataka Ayyangars in TN sivaits ki vaishnavaits ki prateekalu Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Junior Artist Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 529 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.202.120.244 Rating: N/A |
annai nee favorite topic kummuko ! Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Sopathi Junior Artist Username: Sopathi Post Number: 337 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.119.227.6 Rating: |
saivites dont recognize varnas. vaishnavites are for varnas and support varna system. saivites identify with non-aryan dravidian hindu practices. vaishnavites identify with vedic hindu practices. its not coincidence that all asura, rakshasas( aka dravidians) are ardent saivite worshippers. and shiva had special love for the rakshasa kings. no rakshasa prays focking indra, the king of vedic gods or vishnu. karnataka lo saivites even went to militantism( veera shaiva basavanna) lingayats still follow basavannas principles. | ||
| Pavala Comedian Username: Pavala Post Number: 1764 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 86.52.68.136 Rating: |
Hater Savage, Nanigadu kurrodini taarchar yettaka...kurrodiki Gatha slokaalu kotha....vodhileyyi... Yevadu boora voodhithey Pamulannee bussumani puttalo nundi bhayataku vasthaayo, vaade Pavala | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 2046 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.183.43.168 Rating: N/A |
endhi saami...voodu mantralu peduthunnav laptop lu nunchi nimmakayalu paduthunnai | ||
| Savage Comedian Username: Savage Post Number: 1466 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.53 Rating: |
Nanigadu go through these hyms you will get all answers to your questions http://www.avesta.org/yasna/y0to8.htm "ashaya dadhãmi garôish ushidarenahe mazdadhâtahe ashahvâthrahe vîspaêshãmca gairinãm ashahvâthranãm pouru-hvâthranãm mazdadhâtanãm kâvayeheca hvarenanghô mazdadhâtahe ahvaretaheca hvarenanghô mazdadhâtahe, ashaya dadhãmi ashôish vanghuyå cistôish vanghuyå erethê vanghuyå rasãstâtô vanghuyå hvarenanghô savanghô mazdadhâtahe" ----Avesta | ||
| Telugu_times Side Hero Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 4193 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
BottomLine is: Hinduism is baavilo kappa religion. manalo manam fighting all the time. while 3 major religions spread from one place, ours did not spread anywhere, instead shrinked (pak,bangla and parts of afghan) | ||
| Batthar_bindaas Side Hero Username: Batthar_bindaas Post Number: 4246 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 76.226.143.177 Rating: N/A |
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| Pavala Comedian Username: Pavala Post Number: 1762 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 86.52.68.136 Rating: |
Nani gadu doesn't know Jarutha and Iranian History, so he is Hussaini Brahmin Yevadu boora voodhithey Pamulannee bussumani puttalo nundi bhayataku vasthaayo, vaade Pavala | ||
| Elcaminocapastrino Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 2042 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.183.43.168 Rating: N/A |
vaishnavs ki tamarind pulihora antey ishtam Shivs ki lemon pulihora antey ishtam ippudu vinadaniki kamedy ga untaadhi kaani aa rojullo its a big deal....pulihora kosam pranaalu icchey type | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 421 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
thanks babai, i will look for more details on the net... Babu pavala nuvvu inka dukanam bandh seyyi... | ||
| Savage Comedian Username: Savage Post Number: 1465 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.53 Rating: |
Pavala Hater is a Hussaini Brahmin,Nanigadu do you know Jarutha? ---Avesta | ||
| Batthar_bindaas Side Hero Username: Batthar_bindaas Post Number: 4245 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 76.226.143.177 Rating: N/A |
ideological conflicts ani cheppa kada.... nammakam.... MC.Lov cheppadu chudu.....simple ga cheppalantey anthey.....  | ||
| Pavala Comedian Username: Pavala Post Number: 1759 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 86.52.68.136 Rating: |
Nanigadu is surely Hussaini Brahmin....Hater Savage ki kooda thelusu.... Yevadu boora voodhithey Pamulannee bussumani puttalo nundi bhayataku vasthaayo, vaade Pavala | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 420 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
correct babai, unortho, vivek at least anand vunna cheppey vadu correst info...
babu Pavala idi caste based discussions/arguments kosam vesindi kadu, oka genuine question, telisthey cheppu leka pothey light teesuko, anthey kani, deeni teesukoni oka pedda issue ga marchaku... *** Mods if you think that this thread will create problems then delete it, i have no objections | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 5715 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Nani: Shaivulu Shivunni poojenchetollu, Vaishnavulu Lord Vishnu ni. So, maa demudu goppante maa demudu ani lolli vettukunru.. human nature e adi kadaa.. edo oka reason tho pakkanonni hate cheyyaale.. ganthe.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Pavala Comedian Username: Pavala Post Number: 1758 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 86.52.68.136 Rating: N/A |
Nani gadu is Hussaini Brahmin and so is Savage Yevadu boora voodhithey Pamulannee bussumani puttalo nundi bhayataku vasthaayo, vaade Pavala | ||
| Siloan Side Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 2016 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 155.201.35.54 Rating: N/A |
unorthodox live lo ledu ...vunte e paatiki e thread 100 kottedi..Migatha vaalla sangathi naaku idea ledu | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 419 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
chesanu evo chetha links vacchayi, mana vallalo kontha mandi medhavulu vunnaru kada, kluptham ga cheptharani | ||
| Siloan Side Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 2014 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 155.201.35.54 Rating: N/A |
babai googling sesinaa kooda dorakaledaa? | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 418 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
what are those conflicts, why do they hate each other so much? they do believe in hinduism, but they dont like a particular god? why? | ||
| Batthar_bindaas Side Hero Username: Batthar_bindaas Post Number: 4243 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 76.226.143.177 Rating: N/A |
they are just ideological conflicts anukunta..... | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 5713 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Temple ante maa YadaGiri Laxmi Narasimha swamy di.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Telugu_times Side Hero Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 4186 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
my best temples antay Tirumala, srikalahasthi and ramappa. TN vi, topic vacchindhani jeppina. | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 417 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
naku temples antey ippataki nacchedi mana Thirumala, ada vuntey time etta pothado naku teleedu, chala anandamga vuntadi, inkoti naku baga nacchina temple Guruvayur temple, chala peddadi, chala baga vuntadi, enduku chala prasanthamga vuntundi ee temple...
Hmm alaga, inka emanna telusa Mc... | ||
| Siloan Side Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 2012 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 155.201.35.54 Rating: N/A |
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| Savage Comedian Username: Savage Post Number: 1463 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.53 Rating: |
Both were Hussaini Brahmins --Avesta  | ||
| Telugu_times Side Hero Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 4184 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
on a different note kanchi (TN) lo, hundreds of temples untaayi, andhulo 3 main temples. last time poyinappudu joosna. Kanchi kaamacchi (we call it kaamakshi) temple siva kanchi visnu kanchi katthi laaga untaayi temples. siva kanchi balay untadhi. | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 5711 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Bottu pettukune deggara lolli ochhindi ankuntaa.. Shaivulu addamgaa poosukuntaru, Vaishnavulu niluvu gaa poosukuntaru.. Basky tammi.. dha.. clear cheyyi.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 416 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
assalu vellaki enduku problems vacchayi, naku deeni gurunchi emi teleedu, time vuntey discuss cheyyalani anipishtye cheyyandi | ||
| Mclovin Side Hero Username: Mclovin Post Number: 5710 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.45.100.129 Rating: N/A |
Kottukoneeki edo oka raayi kaavale gaa.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Nanigadu Junior Artist Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 415 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: N/A |
Assalu ee topic enti, assalu vellaki enduku godavalu, nenu Dasavatharam review chaduvutunnappudu doubt vacchindi, evarikaina telisthey cheppandi |
