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Frodo
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Saarang:

You guys got me going on Tennis again.




Welcome to the club and thanks for your nice words! :-)
What the executioner did after he was done with his job. (4,6)
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Frodo:

well said! the big hitters started troubling fed only since 2009 - delpo uso and tsonga in montreal and then berdych, soderling and so on! I believe that is mainly because fed's become a step slower and his defence is below the lofty standards of 2004-7!

overall, fed relishes playing the big hitters and he single handedly nullified roddick's career. roddick's serve and forehand is much bigger than anything tsonga, delpotro have thrown at fed the last few years. fed of 2004-7 would have chewed them, spit them out! [which he still does on his best days! ee year he beat delpotro 3 or 4 times on the hardcourts without dropping a set!]

murray's defense is on par with nadal's defense when it comes to hardcourts/grass. his offense is better than nadal's too but the 2 biggest problems murray faces are

a) the british hype - it's like the pressure on srt when he walks out in the WC final or messi/rooney when they play for their countries! it is too much to handle even for the best of the best!

b) the variety in his game. sometimes it is better to be one-dimensional like rafa than have the variety that players like murray/gasquet/safin/federer possess. off the 4, only fed has been able to tame the variety with single-minded determination. these guys can play so many shots and are so talented that they make things too complex for themselves. federer had the same problem in the beginning, but once he won wimbledon in 2003, he was like archimedes after discovering the buoyancy principle! [no! he did not run naked on the streets, but i mean he discovered the winning formula!]

i believe murray MIGHT do similar stuff[not 16GS, but definitely 5-8, if he can unlock that magical formula for success. so far he has failed! now he has to do it against the greatest player in the tennis universe on the most sacred tennis court in the world! Good luck murray man! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!



Frodo:




Excellent analysis by Frodo and Filmbuff. Haven't been paying serious attention to Tennis for a few years. You guys got me going on Tennis again.
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Damaak Kharaab & Ishan :

thanks!

So we have one 30year old winning against a very wily and crafty player! can we have a repeat of that on the men's side too? :D

I am kind of torn! Would have supported murray against any other tennis player in history [except maybe sampras]. Against federer, just cannot!

Whoever wins, this is going to be a major shot in the arm. obviously much more so for Murray than Fed!

Fed will have to play like he did in the semis. Serve and forehand should be firing consistently and no going AWOL like he has been doing for the past 3-4 years!

Murray will have to settle into a good balance between offense and defense. There is now way he can go on the offensive for long stretches against Fed, but the good news for murray is that great defense is Federer's kryptonite. So, i hope lendl doesn't repeat the mistakes he did in his 2 wimbledon finals by having murray play a game that doesn't sync with his strengths.

fed wins in 3 25% chance, fed in 4 = 45%, fed in 5 = 5%

m in 3 = 5%, m in 4 = 5%, m in 5 = 15%

I have no idea who is going to benefit from a closed roof. djokovic said it helped his return indoors because of the humidity, but federer is way too good indoors and he did dust off djokovic real easy in the semis under closed roof!

i would say, closed roof = Y factor, and pressure on murray VS pressure on Fed = X factor!
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Frodo:



dont pay tolls to trolls

the internet is one big circus. you get to see a lot of clowns/buffoons with all sorts of weird psychological issues! a psychology major will have field day with these item rajas!


F-man U rock I say
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Federer
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Frodo:

dont pay tolls to trolls

the internet is one big circus. you get to see a lot of clowns/buffoons with all sorts of weird psychological issues! a psychology major will have field day with these item rajas!


well said!
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serene the queen...

come on KING your time tomorrow
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Aa serving enti babu - 4 aces in a game. Idhi magadu ra bujja...
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serena is done anukuntuna
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I guess serena will prevail at the end
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surf powder akkarledhaa....agreed tradition akulu important ani...atleast finals, semi's ki roof eyyandi if u think there will be interruptions in the match...that's all ur haanar
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popcorn konukkuni.....cheer leaders ni choosi noru vadilesey type aatalau anni desallo adaru mari.......

sport is not TV entertainment as in some countries....it is sweat.....talent and tradition in others......


janet jackson...jacket oodindha......timberlake ekka cheyya vesadu........roof ki colour enti.....ivanni......glamour kosam.......game ki akkarledhu....

ani vivaristhunna ur honour.......
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match goes to 3rd set
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I'll be damned...match into 3rd set
my apologies to RAD fans
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3rd set ki eltadi anipistandi radwanska current game chustante
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tie break lo serena kottesthadi...atleast RAD gave some fight in this set otherwise would have been an embarrassing match of a final..
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serena playing radwanskas game...this might go to 3 rd set
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Film_fan:

you play in whites under sun.....whites lekapothey utukkovali...




surf powder akkarledhaa....agreed tradition akulu important ani...atleast finals, semi's ki roof eyyandi if u think there will be interruptions in the match...that's all ur haanar
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radwanska gets much needed break...could go to 3rd set
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i dont know man....manipulating natural conditions......for an outdoor tournament.....doesnt sound correct....

ika Fed ki help aa....nadala ki help aa doesnt matter......

you play in whites under sun.....whites lekapothey utukkovali....sun vacchey daaka wait cheyyali........

ika tradition.....kakunda.....colour courts meeda recording dance chesthey......wimbledon enduku......ani naa feeling....

clay and grass......super natural conditions to play.......rest all TV entertainment.......
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radwanska papa pani ball atu court lo veyatam varake anukuntaaaa
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monna nadal Vs rasol match outdoor ayithe rasol ala serve chesevaadu kaadu...
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Film_fan:

beauty of outdoor play is.....natural elements.......anni...manipulate chesesi........adisthey......naaku aithey nacchadu......




indoor lo stable conditions untaayi...no wind no sun nothing..you can play your shots lot easier...that is whay it helps players like fed..who plays aggressive and go for their shots...

oka shot miss ayinaaaa..you can make adjustments easily..outdoor lo too many calculations...so top spin petti more margin for errors tho aade players like nadal etc ki outdoor kavali with wind...apudu opponents tho errors cheyinchatam easy annattu...

indoor better anatle..just a view
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serena papa rape sethandigaaaa
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Film_fan:

sachin predictions.....meeda betting vesukovacchu.....

im feeling better.....





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i think it should be like.....match has to be started with roof off......then if needed roof on......and continue....

anthey kaani.....accuweather lo predict chesesi......roof vesi adisthey....130 yrss...maa akula tradition yem kaavali......ika outdoor tennis enduku?

only problem is....TV times dictate everything......but wimbledon didnt budge for over a century......for many things.....i dont see why should do it now.....

beauty of outdoor play is.....natural elements.......anni...manipulate chesesi........adisthey......naaku aithey nacchadu......
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match should not be played over two days like FO....cover the damn court and play
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Film_fan:

roof closed mottam match cheyyakoodadhu...
they have to attempt to play on natural conditions....then if it fails then fall back
yes rain predicted.....so be it.....




varasham vasthene roof close chesthunnaru kadaaaa...once close chesaka theeyatledu mostly...endukante closing ki 40+ minutes pothondi...

naaku thelisi repu varsham vasthe indoor adinchestharemo...
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Film_fan:




ninna joker/fed match complete roof covered kada...final ki exceptions emina unnaya like postponing to monday incase of rain on sunday
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sachin predictions.....meeda betting vesukovacchu.....

im feeling better.....
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Film_fan:

all i want is a good match......probably a 4/5 setter......for murray's sake....

If he looses in 3 straight sets......it dents his confidence......for future...




straight sets lo finish ayye chance ledu bhayyaaa..murray is playing good..both murray and fed will be under pressure...
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roof closed mottam match cheyyakoodadhu...

they have to attempt to play on natural conditions....then if it fails then fall back

yes rain predicted.....so be it.....

problem is olympic organisers are taking over wimbledon for their prep on tuesday.......so monday varaku pothey......cover vesi adisthaaru
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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repu motham rain forecast....roof closed match anukunta mostly
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oh my mad, radwanska wins a game finally...
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looks like a bagel for radwanska...
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Ferrari:




iyyala match chala one sided le bhayya...don't worry
repu KING match ki edo oka set up chesuko...asale KING 2009 taravatha first time wimbledon finals k vacchadu...
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Radwanska's serve is horrible
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Ferrari:




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morning tennis aada.....

now formula 1 qualifying...

tomorrow....playing tennis again.....then grand prix and wimbledon finals.....

weekend set ayipoyindhi

inko 2 weekends aagithey......olympics....

its sports all round......me....

soofer.....
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all i want is a good match......probably a 4/5 setter......for murray's sake....

If he looses in 3 straight sets......it dents his confidence......for future.....

no shame in loosing to federer.......its the way it happens......is more of concern for me....

I will be rooting for murray.....beleive.......Patcash.....hewitt.....ivanisevic. krajicek....all did it....when odds are against them....


only thing is...his present guru Lendl wanted to win wimbledon so deperately.......now his sishya is in the same position......hope it brings smiles to both of them.....

Murray supporters need more than prayers.....against fed......but that said.....Im happy that he is facing...Fed than joker.....genuinely......

go murray go......
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Beer techukoni chicken vandukoni ready ga unna..haayiga taaguthu finals enjoy chedham ani TV on chesthey Hathway setup box kaalipoindhi...thats mom life..
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Ir_fan:

surprisingly murray leads H2H 8-7 with fed....looks like the only player other than nadal who leads H2H with fed




yeap! the 2 best defensive players of the nadal era. federer had similar problems with the 2 best defensive players in his era = hewitt/nalbandian. he turned those 2 around.

realistically, he might end with a losing record against djokovic/nadal/murray.
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maybe you are right FF, but i feel murray plays his best tennis outside slams. lesser the limelight, better he does. and slams lo his performance tapers as business end comes calling. fed/nad/djokovic opposite..... 2nd week lo gears change chestharu, higher gears higher performance.

maybe murray will do it tomorrow! I will win 200$ from a friend if he does! I lose 50$ if Fed wins!

i remember how crazy boston was when redsox won the world series or whatever it is called after a 86 year wait! i met 60-70 year olds who travelled from all corners of the world to be in boston during that time!

24hrs to go!
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surprisingly murray leads H2H 8-7 with fed....looks like the only player other than nadal who leads H2H with fed
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.but very good supporters of great players who ever they are......example ivanisevic and hewitt.......
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typo......'good' players.....not GREAT......putting Fed in same bracket as other two i mentioned is a sin....

they loved Agassi.....even more than sampras.......more than henman.....
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frodo...

your theory of murray not producing against Fed in wimbledon is pressure...

my theory is...he is just not player to beat Fred on those occassions....

this time may not be different....but Murray has been playing well compared to his own play before....

my point is....for murray fail......british pressure doesnt need to the case.....

it only happened that he reached finals outside england until now....but how many tourneys are held in england compared to all other across the world.....

3....queens....wimbledon and end of the year masters.....


probability meeda bayata ekkuva antunna....not because he cannot handle pressure....its not also about not feeling pressure.....he is kind of a detached guy in a negative way.......thingarodu...in his own world lekka lo......


for his talent should he win a GS....i say yes...

for his talent does he deserve a GS more than top three.....NO until now.....

idhi naa opinion.....

henman played more than his ability/talent at wimbledon.....somehow crowd support worked for him.....murray ki it does not matter.....

and more...so.....on finals day.....Fed will atleast have 49% support still at centre......british may be hyper about.....their team or players....but very good supporters of great players who ever they are......example ivanisevic and hewitt.......
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Film_fan:

'm simply saying...this guy is kind of detached....from usual hype....not saying it as compliment.....he just dont get it......




but how come a guy who beats fed in straight sets in MS series finals cannot even keep the match close in

a) GS
b) in matches in London.

and that trend can be seen against nadal ( a guy against whom he should never be 0-3 on grass!) look at how djokovic manhandled rafa in the wimbledon final last year!

anyway, murray's game matches very well with federer because he can defend as good as rafa and also has lot more variety than rafa, better volleying than rafa! where he lacks is focus/mental strength that rafa brings. it doesn't seem like he is indifferent to the hype.

from what i have seen henman punched much above his abilities. he is a much less talented player than murray but still produced 5semi-finals and 9 qfs and he lost most of them to the eventual champion! i hope murray puts up a better show than his last 3 slam finals. else he will equal his coach's record of losing the 1st 4 slam finals he played :D
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british press ki value ichetodu evaru saami brits tappa..
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its the reverse....

ikkada...usual ga theesukuntaaru.....

outer world thinks......press stops with tabloids in england.......

but tabloids are only one half the print press........
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pressure or hype whatever you call it....did not affect Murray anedhi naa point.....

i never saw Murray loosing because of it than his bad play......now you can say.....he didnt risk.....because of pressure...

andy is that type of person (as i see) he gives a hoot to what public thinks......

yesterday after the match.....interviwer asked...what do you think your mom and dad feeling right now....

he said 'i dont care' in exact words...Im on radio listening to the radio on way back from work....and im not surprised.....andy has been like this......detached and doesnt care.......

the only difference is that in recent years he has learnt to use the crowd advantage to lift him up but still not what is available to him totally......

he didnt give a damn when london got olympics of england played euros.....until some PR guy must have told him....you dont have to be that open about your opinion on england......

not everyone who bends before the royal box have genuine respect for queen and not least andy.......

i'm simply saying...this guy is kind of detached....from usual hype....not saying it as compliment.....he just dont get it......


ika british press ni evadu dekuthaadu annaru evaro.......they still talk about it.......reputation ala vacchesindhi......

once you stay here.....for long....it doesnt seem anything extrodinary........

and lastly......dont even bother about british journos in australia.......for british aussieland is just an extension on britian.......they are expected to be there........just like how aussies appear here as well......
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bet fair gives fed @ 4/7 and murray @ 9/5. if my math is right, it is close to the 75% pro-fed chances predicted!

they did not give acerena 99.9999999999999999% though! LOL!
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Film_fan:

talking about pressure.....is fed the god dont feel any?




no sir! he isn't. infact fed himself said he has a lot on the line in the final. he is much more aware of the tennis history than most active players except tipsarevic :-)
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Film_fan:

ets see.....nothing is over until its game set and match.....




I was joking on that one about genuine fans! this is a tournament where rosol beat nadal in 2nd round and lisicki beat sharapova in 4th! nothing is guaranteed
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i dont agree with this british hype point.....too much is made out of this.....




how is that not a factor. 2011 AO final. more than half the journos in attendance were british. and AO is the least important of slams.

Wimbledon is the WC of tennis. WC finals in mumbai lo sangakkara and sachin ki same pressure ante, it doesn't make sense.

The pressure on murray is just insane. Find me a preview to the final which will not mention this. Ofcourse Fed has pressure too, but murray has that pressure too of winning his 1st slam after choking in 1st 3 without winning a set and so on!

The British hype is the X factor. If it was djokovic who was british instead of murray, I would bet my house that djokovic would turn it to his advantage - davis cup crowd and all that. Murray seems incapable of this or so it has been.

He has beaten Fed everywhere. but in slams he is 0-2 and in london he is 0-2. he won 1 set out of 11 in those 4 matches. This match is a GS final in London. those are the facts.

We will see how murray handles the pressure. If he can treat this match as a match in shanghai or Indian wells, california, he will have a better shot at the title. so far he has never done that.

he has won one set in 3 matches against nadal and 1 set in the other semi-final with a-rod! now he meets the Big Daddy of Wimbledon! Agreed Fed is past his prime, but he was past his prime in 2008 USO and 2010 AO too and murray could not use it.

anyway, you cannot deny pressure being a huge factor in this match.
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Film_fan:

over that loosing to murray and reading british press....is worst than suicide in a hotel room for an opponent......


british press ki value ichetodu evaru saami brits tappa... chetta nakos gelichinappudu they own andy and vodinappudu fellow scot antaaru... dont think fed cares a damn abt brit press...same with rory mcilroy ... vaadu entha vaddanna brit etc antaaru when he wins and he time and again defends that he is an irish...
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all the genuine murray fans are busy praying and/or hoping. all the genuine Fed fans have updated their stats to 17, 286, 7 and so on! all the genuine rafa/joker fans are busy masquerading as murray fans and trying to bad mouth Roger and his achievements!
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lets see.....nothing is over until its game set and match......
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todellani ayina encourage cheyachhu gani, trolls NO WAY! :-) against my principles and headmistresses! ;)

anyway, the battle lines are drawn:

all the genuine murray fans are busy praying and/or hoping. all the genuine Fed fans have updated their stats to 17, 286, 7 and so on! all the genuine rafa/joker fans are busy masquerading as murray fans and trying to bad mouth Roger and his achievements!

jokes aside, this is a match for the ages, i hope murray shows up with his A game and Fed does the same too. 2007/08/09 finals laga 5 setter will be perfect!
both players have had back issues this summer, so let us keep fingers crossed that injury will not play spoil sport!

Bring it on!
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i dont agree with this british hype point.....too much is made out of this.....

if any he must be pretty used by it as it was for 7 years.....fed fans may count this as huge but for me Murray didnt show any signs of breakdown because of hype on court......

if murray looses it is because of his talent and on the day play.....and same if he wins......

talking about pressure.....is fed the god dont feel any?

two years away from no.1 now on the brink.....if he cannot do it now....not many would think he could come this close....

7th time.....this may be his best last chance at wimbledon.....

so ila choosukunto...pothey....each have their own pressures.....over that loosing to murray and reading british press....is worst than suicide in a hotel room for an opponent........

so cut it......

Murray has to do it on court....he has beaten Fed before.....may not be at wimbledon......but defenitely not like youzny......

murray played his best tennis in the last 10 days.....hope he contines....and gives a good match.....


wommens.....im not interested as long as she-males are playing......
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Puding lanti personal comments enduku ?? Extralu oddduu
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haa haa...frodo pedda pudingaa...
meeru aayanaki thokalu.....wow....wow

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Neekunduku babu ee antagonism.


peru lonemundi antaaru vinnava... atta aayana pattuvadalani vikramark... frodo respond ayye varaku gillutune vuntaadu
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more pressure for Fed
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sampras, as always hit the nail BAM on the head!

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sampras-backing-federer-in-the-wi mbledon-final/269904-5-22.html,http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sa mpras-backing-federer-in-the-wimbledon-final/269904-5-22.htm l
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so fed gaadni emanna ante....ika vaallandaru trolls and waste fellows..wow what a logic baabayya.
why dont you take sportively ...instead of you yourself becoming a troll....lol

every player has strengths and weaknesses....ade pani gaa fed great ...inka andaru waste ani enni sarlu post chesthaavu...

there are better players...Rod laver twice achieved calendar career slams.....okkataina unda fed ki....career grand slam kooda ..nadal 2009 lo injured kaabatti vachindi....leka pothe adi kooda illio...

when you discuss in a board ...gracefully accept that ..there would be other view points...

Fed ni pogadaka pothe waste anukunte ela babayyaa..

For me I don't like Fed's style...understand and accept that there are others who do not like Fed...thats it.


Come on Murray the underdog....Win your first Glandslam atleast now....

Hurray Hurray Murray...beat the fed barrey
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Neeloni negative energy chustonte muchchatesthondi...




dont pay tolls to trolls :D

the internet is one big circus. you get to see a lot of clowns/buffoons with all sorts of weird psychological issues! a psychology major will have field day with these item rajas!
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Neekunduku babu ee antagonism. Elsewhere you are wasting enough time and energy pulling down Eega and Rajamouli. Neeloni negative energy chustonte muchchatesthondi...
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drawing parallels from other sports, to prove ones point is the worst way of arguing.
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Frodo:



drawing parallels to prove your point is the worst way of arguing.
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Frodo:

people like rohit sharma/vinod kambli/umar akmal in cricket and gasquet/murray/safin/gulbis in tennis have delivered near their talent levels!




correction : delivered near = delivered nowhere near!
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extending the talented VS one-dimensional theory to cricket :

think about sehwag/dravid facing a short ball outside-off.

knows his limitations and he knows he should leave that ball.

sehwag can upper cut that for a 6 over the arc from 3rd man to deep point, he can slam it straight over the bowler's head like a tennis forehand, he can pull it over mid-wicket/square leg.

eee options anni process chesi, shot execute chesesariki, most probably 3rd man ki catch or mid-wicket/keeper ki top-edge :D

atleast sehwag has played some dazzling knocks in all formats and justified his potential to the most but people like rohit sharma/vinod kambli/umar akmal in cricket and gasquet/murray/safin/gulbis in tennis have delivered near their talent levels!

Having talent is great but to harness it requires a TORUK MAKTO to tame the double-edged weapon that is talent!
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Come on Murray...Beat Fed like a barre
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Frodo:




kharma raa baabu....ippudu fed ni great anataanki roddick and murray ni pogidesthunnaar. lol
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Filmbuff:

Almost all of Federer's losses in GS' have been against heavy hitters like Tsonga or relentless defenders like Djoker or Nadal. The only way that Murray can win this is to run down every ball and put it back in play and exhaust Federer and take him to 5. Otherwise, this is for Federer to lose.




well said! the big hitters started troubling fed only since 2009 - delpo uso and tsonga in montreal and then berdych, soderling and so on! I believe that is mainly because fed's become a step slower and his defence is below the lofty standards of 2004-7!

overall, fed relishes playing the big hitters and he single handedly nullified roddick's career. roddick's serve and forehand is much bigger than anything tsonga, delpotro have thrown at fed the last few years. fed of 2004-7 would have chewed them, spit them out! [which he still does on his best days! ee year he beat delpotro 3 or 4 times on the hardcourts without dropping a set!]

murray's defense is on par with nadal's defense when it comes to hardcourts/grass. his offense is better than nadal's too but the 2 biggest problems murray faces are

a) the british hype - it's like the pressure on srt when he walks out in the WC final or messi/rooney when they play for their countries! it is too much to handle even for the best of the best!

b) the variety in his game. sometimes it is better to be one-dimensional like rafa than have the variety that players like murray/gasquet/safin/federer possess. off the 4, only fed has been able to tame the variety with single-minded determination. these guys can play so many shots and are so talented that they make things too complex for themselves. federer had the same problem in the beginning, but once he won wimbledon in 2003, he was like archimedes after discovering the buoyancy principle! [no! he did not run naked on the streets, but i mean he discovered the winning formula!]

i believe murray MIGHT do similar stuff[not 16GS, but definitely 5-8, if he can unlock that magical formula for success. so far he has failed! now he has to do it against the greatest player in the tennis universe on the most sacred tennis court in the world! Good luck murray man! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!
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Go Murray...Go
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I agree with you....Murrays coach Ivan Lendl is going to help him today..

Murray is the only without a grandslam out of the top four.
I think he will try hard to get his first grandslam.
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I would go with Fed. The problem with Murray's game is that he is a wily, crafty player which is exactly the kind of play that will not work against Federer. You can't outthink Federer. Almost all of Federer's losses in GS' have been against heavy hitters like Tsonga or relentless defenders like Djoker or Nadal. The only way that Murray can win this is to run down every ball and put it back in play and exhaust Federer and take him to 5. Otherwise, this is for Federer to lose.
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kismath babu kaa kismath dekho....he last won his slam in 2010 against Murray and now facing him again....
Last four slam winners of kismath babu are against....Murray,Roddick,Soderling,Murray.

Since 2010...Murray has improved a little bit...so I hope Murray will win this time.
Good luck to Andy Murray to win his first GrandSlam.}
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i think fed-murray is 75-25 in fed's favor.

ACErena 99.99999999% against aggie.

i will be cheering for fed/aggie, aggie is like a mini version of hingis :-) i just hope she doesn't get pulverised like hingis used to by the williams' bros :D
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For me, its

Serena

and

Federer

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