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chetha program...now that it got implemented and is famous, we will never be able to get rid of this....already mooluguthunna mana state health care setup meedha eee arogyasri ane thaatikaya padindhi....she will die..she will dyyiiiii
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Indiarocks:

The problem is not creation of infra. It is already there. The problem is mismanagement.

Dabbulu leva? Jagan anna budget thaggiste health care ki money vachevi.





jp govt form chesaka ni lekkalu veddhamu. appudu corruption undadhu kabatti. ippatikayithe manakunna congress , tdp ysrc and trs govt lo aa lekkalu pani cheyyavu. corruption lo poga migilinadhanithone we have to spend. aa lekkallo nuvvu cheppedhi jaragadhu.

infrastructure is there antunanvu. where anedhi naku teliyatam ledhu. the govt hospital in my villaage have 40 years old building and 4 rooms and 4 beds. only surgery they can perform is a cesarian .and u say thats infrastructure. and our vilalge has 10000 population not small viallge.
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adhi karchu cheyatanike mana govt ki chukkalu kanapadathanannyi. alantidhi nuvvu infrastructure create cheyyi staff ni thisukura ante ekkadunundi vasthundhi?




The problem is not creation of infra. It is already there. The problem is mismanagement.

Dabbulu leva? Jagan anna budget thaggiste health care ki money vachevi.
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks:

You don't have even the basic idea about the subject you are talking.

What Govt spent on health care, including Arogyasri, is far less than even the minimum the National Health Mission recommends.

It is less than even 5% of the budget.




adhe brother cheppedhi. recommended dhantlo 5% use cheyyatam ledhu including arogyasri antunnavu. adhi karchu cheyatanike mana govt ki chukkalu kanapadathanannyi. alantidhi nuvvu infrastructure create cheyyi staff ni thisukura ante ekkadunundi vasthundhi?
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80 lks and 1 crore population undhi . akkada nims matrame kadhu. akkada gandhi hospital kuda undhi.

small small ki kuda akkadiki vellamu kadha. major surgeries issues. ayina i just told u thats not only factor. thats one of factor.

major factor is that govt not having enough money to revamp the whole system. out sourcing dont cost as much and can pull out when cant afford.




You don't have even the basic idea about the subject you are talking.

What Govt spent on health care, including Arogyasri, is far less than even the minimum the National Health Mission recommends.

It is less than even 5% of the budget.
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

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80 lks and 1 crore population undhi . akkada nims matrame kadhu. akkada gandhi hospital kuda undhi.

small small ki kuda akkadiki vellamu kadha. major surgeries issues. ayina i just told u thats not only factor. thats one of factor.

major factor is that govt not having enough money to revamp the whole system. out sourcing dont cost as much and can pull out when cant afford.
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hyderabad lo ledhu ani chepthavu endhi bayya. chinna gully hospitals gurninchi cheppaku bayya. nims govt hospital ye kadha. nims lo u hvae everything.




Hyd population 80lks - 1cr? Mothaniki okka NIMS bagunte chaala?

Chee, inkenduku ee disc?

Indiarocks:

Insult enti babu. Govt PHC lo nurse kinda pani cheyali ante 3k anta jeetham. Antha thakuva ki evadu pani chestadu?

PHC pedatharu, building untundi, equipment unte doctor undadu, doctor unte equipment undadu, rendu unte patients undaru.

10 crores janabha lo oka 2lks benefit pondaru, aa policy super ante denitho navvali?




Btw, problem adi kooda kaadu. Aa jeetham kooda 6 months ki okasari ala vastundi.
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

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Buduguuu:

basic ga govt hospitals lo work cheyyadame pedda insult ga undi manollaki. aa situation maarite infrastructure build cheste sagam infant deaths and pregnancy deaths aaputam. over a period of time kaavalante veeti kosam tax vesi money pool cheyachu kada




Insult enti babu. Govt PHC lo nurse kinda pani cheyali ante 3k anta jeetham. Antha thakuva ki evadu pani chestadu?

PHC pedatharu, building untundi, equipment unte doctor undadu, doctor unte equipment undadu, rendu unte patients undaru.

10 crores janabha lo oka 2lks benefit pondaru, aa policy super ante denitho navvali?
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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hyderabad lo ledhu ani chepthavu endhi bayya. chinna gully hospitals gurninchi cheppaku bayya. nims govt hospital ye kadha. nims lo u hvae everything.


guntur govt hospital ki vellu u have pretty much everything there aswell. except for place to keep them all.

its not just that. its just part of the problem.

outsourcing is lot more easier to handle than doing it all. when u cant handle u can quit outsourcing. if you spend it on govt hospitals after few years it will be just waste once govt cant spend anymore.
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Indiarocks:

EE logic vaadithe cities lo Govt hospitals, PHCs, CHCs annitlo staff undali. Hyderabad lo sagam PHCs lo staff leru, mandulu levu.




good point. rock bhayya deeniki answer em chestaru. basic ga govt hospitals lo work cheyyadame pedda insult ga undi manollaki. aa situation maarite infrastructure build cheste sagam infant deaths and pregnancy deaths aaputam. over a period of time kaavalante veeti kosam tax vesi money pool cheyachu kada :-)
raaboye kaalaniki kaaboye mod ni.. b careful with me :D
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Rock:

infrastructure staff creation costs lot more than outsourcing. ie outsourcing can be taken back when govt cant afford it. but okkasari nuvvu infrastructure staff create chesavu ante u cant take back. u have to pay their salaries regardless.

and hard to find staff who can work in govt hospitals in villages.




annai india lo unna population ki infrastructure build cheste waste ayye chance ee ledu annai. asalu infra build cheyyakunda build cheste permanenet liability avtundi anedi wrong assumption anukuntunna :-)
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Saint:

endhoo nee comedy!

major diseases anni cover avuthayi..only thing emiti ante..u have to be admitted to hosiptal..accidents/heart/ surgery related most of them cover avuthayi...


this is a wonderful scheme ...lakhs of ppl got benefitted. administrative param gaa bad vundani scheme ne bad ante adi govt EP thanam..chathakani thanam




Comedy naadi kaadu, needi.

Mana state lo Malaria, Dengue valana every year entha mandi chanipotaro telusa? Pregnancy issues valana entha mandi affect autharu telusa? Asalu state lo ekkuva mandi affect ayye diseases ento telusa?
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Buduguuu:




ask urself annai. if u were a doctor would u like to stay in small town or village where u cant get the education u want for ur kids . where u cant get any entertainment. where u cant enjoy fruits of ur work?

then think about how hard it will be to find staff
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I disagree... govt hospitals ki eppudu shortage of funds leading to less no of doctors, technicians...KGH lo costly euqipment untadhi donated by steel plant ot some other PSU but 10K ichi technician ni pettaru state govt vallu...compare this to the money thrown at corporate hospitals in the name of arogyasri u will see what can be done with the same money in govt hospitals....

inka rural places antava avi eppatiki under privileged ga ne undhi pothayi....arogyasri or no arogyasri does not matter...it is our thinking that villages are not for educated that has lead to this lack of facilities in rural india...

Govt has given quota for doctors who serve in villages in PG Medicine but not one person is using...i know few MBBS students who rae going to banglore, chennai for PG entrance exam coaching but not to rural places....that is our mindset...
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Arogyasri lo cover ayye rogaalu (ante prajalu chanipotunnavi) 1% kooda lekunda, Govt daani meeda 90% karchu chesi, pedalaki 100% uchita corporate vaidyam istunnamu ani pracharam cheskunnaru.

Arogyasri peru cheppi migatha 90% kosam velle PHCs, Govt hospitals ni gaali ki vadilesaru.





endhoo nee comedy!

major diseases anni cover avuthayi..only thing emiti ante..u have to be admitted to hosiptal..accidents/heart/ surgery related most of them cover avuthayi...


this is a wonderful scheme ...lakhs of ppl got benefitted. administrative param gaa bad vundani scheme ne bad ante adi govt EP thanam..chathakani thanam
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Rock:

no baya. aa dabbulu govt hospitals ki icchina pani jaragadhu.

equipment undagane surgeries jaragavu kadha . staff undali. govt hospitals lo staff villages lo undatam kastam . endhukante they cant set up private practice their kids education aa issues valla they like to stay in cities. u only find staff thats not worth chintakaya to work in villages. andhukani peddaga use undadhu aa money govt hospitals midha spend cheyatam valana




Sodhi cheppaku. EE logic vaadithe cities lo Govt hospitals, PHCs, CHCs annitlo staff undali. Hyderabad lo sagam PHCs lo staff leru, mandulu levu.
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Buduguuu:




infrastructure staff creation costs lot more than outsourcing. ie outsourcing can be taken back when govt cant afford it. but okkasari nuvvu infrastructure staff create chesavu ante u cant take back. u have to pay their salaries regardless.

and hard to find staff who can work in govt hospitals in villages.
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no baya. aa dabbulu govt hospitals ki icchina pani jaragadhu.




enduku jaragadu annai. in some form or other people ki use avtundi kada. nt every person can come to hyd and vizag in emergencies.

and local ga build cheyyadam is the best thing :-)
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Senapathy:

Emanna link untey ettandi bro. Want to know more. Thx.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHjGmIWgRm8&feature=results_m ain&playnext=1&list=PLAA1D2D7C34107541

Meeku JP meeda nammakam unte choodandi. Naa daggara vere links levu. 3 parts unnayi ee video lo.
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asalu govt corporate hosp lo inta invest chesedi govt hospitals lo equipment build cheyachu kada. endukila edo oka scheme name meeda janallo dependency penchutune unnaru
raaboye kaalaniki kaaboye mod ni.. b careful with me :D
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no baya. aa dabbulu govt hospitals ki icchina pani jaragadhu.

equipment undagane surgeries jaragavu kadha . staff undali. govt hospitals lo staff villages lo undatam kastam . endhukante they cant set up private practice their kids education aa issues valla they like to stay in cities. u only find staff thats not worth chintakaya to work in villages. andhukani peddaga use undadhu aa money govt hospitals midha spend cheyatam valana
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1% kooda lekunda, Govt daani meeda 90% karchu chesi, pedalaki 100% uchita corporate vaidyam istunnamu ani pracharam cheskunnaru.




Emanna link untey ettandi bro. Want to know more. Thx.
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ee scheme nijam gaa entha mandhi poor ppl kee benefit chesindhi annadhii pakkana pedithay
it is grossly abused by the educated...on both sides of the transaction

okadu jwaram treatment kee vachi cheyyi fracture ani raayandi..kuch kuch karangay annadu...educated govt employeee malla




Ilantivi jarigithe evaru 100% aapaleru. So avi kaadu criticize cheyalsindi.

Arogyasri lo cover ayye rogaalu (ante prajalu chanipotunnavi) 1% kooda lekunda, Govt daani meeda 90% karchu chesi, pedalaki 100% uchita corporate vaidyam istunnamu ani pracharam cheskunnaru.

Arogyasri peru cheppi migatha 90% kosam velle PHCs, Govt hospitals ni gaali ki vadilesaru.
Conquas(3609) about CBI arresting Jagan: TDP allegations chesindhi... vallu icchina evidence ee kadha cbi vallu teesukundhi..

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Tax payers� money is flowing into the treasuries of private corporate hospitals.




idhi bottomline ee aarogyasri ki...the corporate hospitals are looting public money...adhe daabu govt hospitals isthe inka manchi service dorukuthundhi
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yes bayya. country is not made of dirt bayya. country is made of people. people are country anna uddesam tho rasanu
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ee scheme nijam gaa entha mandhi poor ppl kee benefit chesindhi annadhii pakkana pedithay
it is grossly abused by the educated...on both sides of the transaction

okadu jwaram treatment kee vachi cheyyi fracture ani raayandi..kuch kuch karangay annadu...educated govt employeee malla
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Senapathy:

My view - It is a very noble task by YSR govt to undertake the scheme. However, the gross irregularities at lower level have filled up the coppers of the hospitals.




Not just gross irregularities at low level, the very design of Arogyasri crappy at best.

It limits coverage to 0.1% of health issues, and spends more than 90% of the budget on them.
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senai,

government's responsiblity includes welfare aswell like you said.

arogya sri is very good scheme if it gets implemented in the way it supposed to. but its not possible . because india is built on curroption.

in my view after all these years india still standing tall after the corruption we endured and peoples inability to comprehend the system coz only one reason . education . if its not for the importance indian society gives for education its really horrible to even imagine how it would have been like
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Senapathy:

In one way the poor




PS: I am not against poor benefiting. It is the duty of state for welfare of all.
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza

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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 08:51 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My view - It is a very noble task by YSR govt to undertake the scheme. However, the gross irregularities at lower level have filled up the coppers of the hospitals.

How much does the pvt hospital charge for the expenses? How many rats eating money in between? Where is the accountability.

This issue is true for most govt undertakings. But, note that it is tax payers money used to treat poor people. No issue with that provided transperancy is maintained. In one way the poor and corrupt benefit. Someone making more than 2L per year still has to bear his costs - so much for irony.
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza

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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 08:48 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oka private person view. Chala baga raseru.

http://sajitsj.blogspot.com/2012/02/critical-analysis-of-aro gyasri-health.html

Conclusion:

It is an undeniable fact that Arogyasri has done great wonders for the poor of the country. The commitment of the governing class to the powerless poor of the land is shown through the project. All the medical facilities which were otherwise unavailable for the poor are made possible through the existence of the scheme. An unbelievable amount of infrastructural development has taken place in a short period of three years, all triggered by the schemes promising future. The health sector in the state is booming. Even foreign investment is pouring in. Apart from Indian patients, foreigners are also coming to the state’s big hospitals, looking for quality medical care at lower rates. This leads to what we call medical tourism. This in turn helps the economy of the state.

All these promising facts point to one fact, that the public sector is capable of inducing changes in the social pattern, on a large scale, within a short period of time. But when we look into the backyard stories of the scheme, we get a shock. Economic discrepancy and financial anomalies are mounting day by day. Tax payers’ money is flowing into the treasuries of private corporate hospitals. With political and bureaucratic personalities on their side, more and more public robberies are taking place in broad day light. People of the state have become numb to such news these days. We have lost our capacity to react.

Unless we wake up and induce changes in the fundamental construct of the project, we may not be able to control the scheme at all. My wish is that ordinary people who are below poverty line also should have a say in policy making, since they are the primary beneficiaries. If only we can forgo the interests of corporate business firms, anything better would come of the scheme. Transparency has to come in the running of the scheme, from top to bottom. For this, political good will is also necessary.

Let me conclude by saying, “Health is precious. May Arogyasri protect and enhance the health of the poor, but not sacrificing the greater good of the people of the state.”

More information ki ayana papers lo links bottom lo iccharu.
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza

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