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Ir_fan:

Why roger is given 3rd seed and nadal 2nd though vice versa is true in current ATP rankings ?




I think the draw was taken yesterday based on the rankings at that time..when atp releases the rankings tomorrow, roger will be no 2
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Sachin:




Why roger is given 3rd seed and nadal 2nd though vice versa is true in current ATP rankings ?
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Congrats ra Fed gaa.. another feather in your crown. first blu clay title. You deserved it esp after robbing those two points. Bird serving at 40% ?? first serve and still went for the distance is amazing. Great game unlike Serena Vs. Victoria.
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Poor fed was stolen two valuable points however. Both were brutal mistakes by umpiring..




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Fed is unfazed. I agree the key is with bird. To win he has to up his game and viceversa. The way he did delpotro and verdasco, I thot he had chances to win all the way. Poor fed was stolen two valuable points however. Both were brutal mistakes by umpiring..
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berdych gaaadu mingesthaadu bhayyaaaa...vaaadu ee range lo defend cheyatam nenu soolle
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Fed gaa.. nee kallu dega kallu.. even umpire couldnt see that ball bounced twice.. siggu padraa umpire gaa..
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Sachin:

i still think you are wrong....

go to atpworldtour.com and then go to rankings...joker has 13020 points as of 30-4-2012 and as of 7-5-2012 he got 12020 points..so even before the end of madrid open they took o his 1000 points...




as I told you, THIS YEAR, they have been deducting points 1 week early, but that is not how they do it USUALLY!

USUALLY, they deduct and add points AFTER a tournament is over. there are exceptions and this year is different from how ATP does it.


v-man:

if you like open, try j-mac's "you cannot be serious" it's my all time favourite tennis book. you can also try sampras' bio - it is not great, but if you were a pete fan like me, you will like it.

another book you might like is "strokes of genius" - it's about the epic wimbledon 2008 final.

rafa's bio called "rafa" is a good read too.

another book i love is high strung, it is about another great rivalry - j-mac and borg.

you should also try "bjorn borg, my life and game". i am not a borg fan, but still loved it. dude was perhaps the greatest star tennis has ever seem. like tendulkar in cricket, he had total god-like following!

last but not the least, you should try "quest for perfection" a book on the swiss maestro.

i will also recommend you read an article called "federer as a religious experience" by a guy called david foster wallace. it is one of the greatest literary piece in all sport.
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Sachin:




You seem to be correct. But, Nadal's points tally is not matching...on 04/30, He is 10,170 and 5/7 it's 9615( difference of 555 points, not 600).
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i still think you are wrong....

go to atpworldtour.com and then go to rankings...joker has 13020 points as of 30-4-2012 and as of 7-5-2012 he got 12020 points..so even before the end of madrid open they took o his 1000 points...
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Frodo:




last year, Roger reached semis in Madrid.
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to my knowledge...prathi tournament start ayyemundu last year aaa tourney lo vachina pints theesesthaaaru...ippudu madrid lo nadal last year 600 and fed last year 320 theesesaaaru...tounament ayyaaka gain chesina points add chesthaaaru...




not true. tournament finish ayyaka last year points deduct chesi, present year lo vochhina points add chestaru. this is how it is usually done.

as i mentioned earlier, due to schedule change this year points are being deducted one week early. taking rafa and roger's case,

on monday, fed will have 8520+1000-90 =9430. rafa will have 9615+90-600 = 9105.

if they had not had the schedule change,

fed would have had 8520+1000 = 9520, rafa would have had 9615+90 = 9705. (Italian open points from last year would have been deducted next sunday, may 20th!

hope i've made it clear.

anyways, bottomline, fed is world number 2 if he beats t-bird
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oh..ok.
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Ir_fan:

Those were their points starting this Monday 5/7, before Madrid started....Based on their performance in this year tournament and how they fared last year...points get added/deducted after tournament is completed.




i thought they already deducted the points these players gained last year...
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Those were their points starting this Monday 5/7, before Madrid started....Based on their performance in this year tournament and how they fared last year...points get added/deducted after tournament is completed.


Not sure what you mean by already teesesaaru.
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Ir_fan:

Right now, Nadal has 9615 and ROger has 8520 points.They have to defend the points they earned last year.




ee points already theesesaaaka vachinavi bhayyaa
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Sachin:




This is how it works.

Right now, Nadal has 9615 and ROger has 8520 points.They have to defend the points they earned last year.

Nadal reached final last year.So, he has to defend 600 points.Since he lost in 3rd round, he got only 90 points, remaining 510 will get deducted.
Roger reached semifinal last year. So, he has to defend 360 points.If he wins madrid, the extra points (1000-360=640) gets added.

So, If Roger wins madrid, Starting Monday 5/14, He will be ranked 2nd.

Starting monday, Roger ATP points will be 9160 (8520 + 640) and Nadal ATP points will be 9105 (9615-510).


For Rome, Nadal has to defend 600 points where as Roger has to defend only 90. Hopefully he remains 2nd after rome as well and does not have to meet Nadal/Joker until finals in French.
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Sachin:

to my knowledge...prathi tournament start ayyemundu last year aaa tourney lo vachina pints theesesthaaaru...ippudu madrid lo nadal last year 600 and fed last year 320 theesesaaaru...tounament ayyaaka gain chesina points add chesthaaaru...



idi correct anukuntunna....
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Frodo:

this year, the atp made some schedule changes moving all tournaments 1 week later. the result is that the madrid points of last year have already been removed on midnight of last sunday, may 6 instead of doing it on may 13 as they should. this is going to be the case till wimbledon for sure. (i have to confirm if they moved tournaments after that as well).




1 week change chesthe points theeseyatam ela mariddi annai...

to my knowledge...prathi tournament start ayyemundu last year aaa tourney lo vachina pints theesesthaaaru...ippudu madrid lo nadal last year 600 and fed last year 320 theesesaaaru...tounament ayyaaka gain chesina points add chesthaaaru...

right now nadal 9615 and roger 8520 unnaaaru...if roger wins this he gains 1000 and rafa 90 ( i guess)..

so after madrid nadal 9705 and roger 9520 avuthaaaaru...

rome ki mundu last year points 600 from rafa and 90 from fed theesesthe...
rafa 9105 and fed 9430 avuthaaaru..fed 2nd rank avuthaaaadu...

idi naa guess...
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Birdie gets the argentine. Umpire gaadi meeda kasi rally lo sooyistaav endi raa bewakoof.. Bird definitely can give some heat to fed.




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Birdie gets the argentine. Umpire gaadi meeda kasi rally lo sooyistaav endi raa bewakoof.. Bird definitely can give some heat to fed.
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Frodo:

as for books, you interested only in biographies or general tennis books?


Anything that is interesting and delves into players and available in digital.

By the time I woke up sista brushed the young czech aside. Looks like she did get some resistance in first. The final should be a feast. Serena is no maria and I hope victoria realises this and keep her head stait.
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If Roger wins madrid,

Joker/nadal/Roger atp points will be 11,200/9105/9160 respectively.
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@v-man :

been on the road a lot. hope things are all dandy on your side. madrid surface just gives a glimpse of tennis in the 90s. now think of this slick surface with grass. rafa/nole are whining too much. the court is tricky but the monsters are in their head - like kids complaining of monsters under their bed or in a dark alley!

azarenka can never be henin-2. her game doesn't have the grace/elegance/majesty/creativity that henin's game has. but azarenka can be a azarenka-1. clean ball-striking with pin-point timing and laser like precision on the groundies. the jury is still out. she needs to dominate an entire season and she needs to checkmate the williams sis dominance on the fast courts for me to enter her into the elite. serena looks good for a GS @ sw19 or flushing meadows if not @roland garros.

as for books, you interested only in biographies or general tennis books?

sachin:

generally they remove a tournaments points from the year before after the tourney is completed. take madrid for example, what atp generally does is when madrid finishes on sunday, at midnight that day (dont know which time zone, guess EST) they remove fed's 360 points from last year (semi-final finish) and add his 1000 points ( if he wins the final) from this year. they do so for all the players and list out the rankings for the week of may 14.

this year, the atp made some schedule changes moving all tournaments 1 week later. the result is that the madrid points of last year have already been removed on midnight of last sunday, may 6 instead of doing it on may 13 as they should. this is going to be the case till wimbledon for sure. (i have to confirm if they moved tournaments after that as well).

this works to fed's benefit as he did not have great results in the 1st half, except for final at french. it is a double whammy for nole/rafa because they made all finals from monaco to wimbledon. there is a very realistic chance that fed could get number 1 by wimbledon, if he keeps up this level!
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Frodo:

if fed wins madrid, the madrid points get added and on monday rome points come off. implies 600 points go off nadal's points and only 90 go off fed's. it is official news on the atp site that fed will get to world number2 if he wins madrid on sunday. take that to the bank!




bhayyaaa....rome points theesesi draw theesthaaraaa...that makes sense
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v-man (?):


Yepp.. longtime no c.. The way he got ferrer, I think no stopping him. Ferrer can be pretty dangerous on clay but looks like age is getting better of him. Bird revamped his game and he is the only credible opponent.
Very recently completed 'Open' by Agassi.. wow man.. it was good.. any suggestions on good tennis [auto]biographies??

What do you think of Victoria?? She need to work on her attitude right?.. Just when I thought WTA found Henin-II, she went down. damn it..
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v-man (?):

fedz cruising on this icy surface coz hez just so supremely talented. you can wake this guy in the middle of the night and he will adapt to any surface you give him. fingers crossed for him 2 get the title.

@sachin :

if fed wins madrid, the madrid points get added and on monday rome points come off. implies 600 points go off nadal's points and only 90 go off fed's. it is official news on the atp site that fed will get to world number2 if he wins madrid on sunday. take that to the bank!
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Deenemma fed gaad movement.. ee age la emi moving raa neeyabba.. manishivaa asal..
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Blame it on the blue naa??
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