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Sanman
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Post Number: 5672 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 03:14 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:sanman kurrod tupakul antaadu...term limit antaadu....kikiki...confused bavajaalam...yatha JP thadhaa pyaans...meow..meow
tupaakulaki deeniki link enti sir JP ee renditini eppudanna support chesaada. cheste cheppu nenu kuda JP ki support chesta mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Gandhiguevara
Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 29244 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 173.65.156.103
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 03:03 pm: |
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sanman kurrod tupakul antaadu...term limit antaadu....kikiki...confused bavajaalam...yatha JP thadhaa pyaans...meow..meow |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7722 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 50.138.183.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 02:44 pm: |
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Sanman:neeku ardham ayye language
along with nee edupu, naaku english,telugu,hindi kooda ardham avutaayi le..koncham time teesukunna counter parledhu |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5664 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 02:42 pm: |
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Jackjill:enti kaalindhaa idhi ento mari
neeku ardham ayye language mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7720 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 50.138.183.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 02:32 pm: |
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Sanman:topic ki panikoche comments emanna unnaya just ignorance displaying thone satisfy aipothava
enti kaalindhaa idhi ento mari Sanman:aa devudi chalava valane mana bench babu ni 2 terms intlo kurchobettinaa inka veru dikku leka moyaalsi vastundhi
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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5662 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 02:30 pm: |
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Jackjill:aithe vomerican president ki ichedaama, Indian administration
topic ki panikoche comments emanna unnaya just ignorance displaying thone satisfy aipothava mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7719 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 50.138.183.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 02:29 pm: |
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Sanman:baagundhane kadha manam ikkada settle aindhi
aithe vomerican president ki ichedaama, Indian administration  |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5660 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 02:27 pm: |
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Jackjill:Vomerica feepul survey India lo implementation
baagundhane kadha manam ikkada settle aindhi  mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7718 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 50.138.183.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 02:25 pm: |
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Vomerica feepul survey India lo implementation  |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7717 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 50.138.183.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 02:23 pm: |
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Sanman:aa devudi chalava valane mana bench babu ni 2 terms intlo kurchobettinaa inka veru dikku leka moyaalsi vastundhi
madhyalo Bob ekkada nunchi vassio  |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5658 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 01:35 pm: |
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mana banda brains ki antha understanding unte bob jenda enduku mostam 71% Favor Term Limits for Congress http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/gene ral_politics/september_2011/71_favor_term_limits_for_congres s Voters strongly support term limits for all members of Congress but don’t think it’s very likely the national legislators will vote to limit how long they can serve. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 71% of Likely U.S. Voters favor establishing term limits for all members of Congress. Just 14% oppose setting such limits, and 15% are undecided about them Fox News Poll: 78 Percent Favor Term Limits On Congress http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/03/fox-news-poll-per cent-favor-term-limits-congress/ Finally, an issue both Democrats and Republicans agree on: term limits. Nearly 8 in 10 American voters like the idea of imposing fixed time limits in office for all members of Congress -- including their own senators and representatives. ARGUMENTS PRO and CON (condensed) (for the enactment of Congressional Term Limits) http://tenurecorrupts.com/arguments.html List of Arguments in Favor : 1. Overwhelmingly, voters prefer term limits. (It's their native commonsense!) 2. Term limits downgrades seniority, favors meritocracy. 3. Increases competition, encourages new challengers. 4. Builds a ‘citizen’ Congress, drives out career politicians. 5. Breaks ties to special interests. 6. Improves tendency to vote on principle. 7. Introduces fresh thinking, new ideas, eliminates 'old bulls'. 8. Reduces power of staff, bureaucracy, lobbies. 9. It will create a natural reduction in wasteful federal spending. 10. Encourages lower taxes, smaller government, greater voter participation in elections. 11. There are more reasons in favor of term limits than reasons against. 12. Gets reelection rates back to near 50%, versus the current 99%. (Founders called it "rotation in office") List of Arguments Opposed : 1. Terminates the good politicians along with the bad. 2. Instead of term limits, a reform of Congress' procedures would be easier. 3. Reduces range of voter choice. 4. Loss of knowledge and experience. 5. Increases the power of staff, lobbies, and bureaucracy. mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5656 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 01:25 pm: |
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Jackjill: BR Ambedkar had a better vision than a lot of us
aa devudi chalava valane mana bench babu ni 2 terms intlo kurchobettinaa inka veru dikku leka moyaalsi vastundhi mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Jackjill
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Post Number: 7716 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 50.138.183.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 01:02 pm: |
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Gacchu, Gunta .. Daavuda !!! Thank God DR BR Ambedkar had a better vision than a lot of us |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1801 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.222.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 12:17 am: |
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Sanman: kiki maradhe better political system seeks more liberties of individuals not governments. it is not about giving liberty to a person in office to do whatever he wants
If there has to be limits on a candidature .. 2/3 terms is realistic .. 1 term lo opposition MLA/MP chesedi enti? manaki unna vindictive atmosphere lo .. kanisam okka law/bill kuda pass cheyinchaleru .. Jai Sri Ram .. http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/171407.html?1332602643 |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1800 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.222.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 12:13 am: |
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Jujung: Reminds me of story I heard regarding the anti-defection law and its consequences. Appatlo mla/mps money theeskoni midterm lo party lu jump chestunnarani, prashant bhushan's father shanti bushan brought this law. Now, because of this, there is no other option for members but to blindly follow the party whip and so no more house debates at all.
very true .. no scope for difference .. all voices other than party chiefs opinions are curbed now .. I think .. Arun Jaitley as law min introduced it .. though anti-defection as such was good for political stability .. it did harm to voices .. Jai Sri Ram .. http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/171407.html?1332602643 |
   
Jujung
Junior Artist Username: Jujung
Post Number: 406 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.39.255.35
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 11:50 pm: |
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one term ee kabatti maximum corruption untundi. no scope for leadership growth. how will anyone achieve the status of CM/PM if he can be an MLA/MP only once? Even in the US, the term limits are on President but not on house/senate members. Reminds me of story I heard regarding the anti-defection law and its consequences. Appatlo mla/mps money theeskoni midterm lo party lu jump chestunnarani, prashant bhushan's father shanti bushan brought this law. Now, because of this, there is no other option for members but to blindly follow the party whip and so no more house debates at all. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery
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Sanman
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Post Number: 5653 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 11:35 pm: |
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Tilak:idi limiting freedom kaada? badly drunk girls in a pub kaada mana MPs ani prasnistunna ???
kiki maradhe better political system seeks more liberties of individuals not governments. it is not about giving liberty to a person in office to do whatever he wants mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Onlytruth
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Post Number: 96721 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 96.233.201.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 11:14 pm: |
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Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1798 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.222.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 11:11 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Jagan fans tho development gurinchi disc chestunnavu ante nee photo ki frame kattinchi dandam pettachu.
mastaru .. Jagan fans theds vestunnaru development gurinchi .. adi kuda development ee anukuntunna ..  Jai Sri Ram .. http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/171407.html?1332602643 |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5645 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 11:08 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Not really. If another leader becomes poPular with ppl he will be replaced bcoz parties want to win. U dont have to imPose that.
i dont understand. i am saying if a party like LSP says MLA term is one year, ideally people will consider the goods and bads of that policy and approve it or not. of course ippudu unna sara biryani politics lo itlantivi anni moo points mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5644 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 11:07 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Even if we agree that there should be some limit, 1 term limit is ridiculous.
it is ridiculous if you think of it as a job that needs training. i think whoever wants to bring some change through politics already has a pretty good idea of how it is before they start the job mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 9653 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.242
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 11:06 pm: |
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Sanman:
Not really. If another leader becomes poPular with ppl he will be replaced bcoz parties want to win. U dont have to imPose that. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5643 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 11:03 pm: |
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Indiarocks: You talk at length abt freedom and liberty. Oka MLA, MP ni malli elect cheskovalo, vaddo telchukune freedom voter ki undadda? Laws tho danni impose cheyala?
good point. to a certain extent i agree. in a perfect society this will come from one party volunteering this rule inside their party and people having a choice to vote to that party. mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 9651 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:53 pm: |
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Tilak:
Jagan fans tho development gurinchi disc chestunnavu ante nee photo ki frame kattinchi dandam pettachu.
 The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9650 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:49 pm: |
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Sanman:ok... if you want to look at legislative and executive term limits separately there are lot of countries with legislative term limits and the idea is popular in US also and bills were proposed for it but failed. it is not never unheard of like you said
Even if we agree that there should be some limit, 1 term limit is ridiculous. Plz answer this Indiarocks:You talk at length abt freedom and liberty. Oka MLA, MP ni malli elect cheskovalo, vaddo telchukune freedom voter ki undadda? Laws tho danni impose cheyala?
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1796 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.222.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:46 pm: |
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idi limiting freedom kaada? badly drunk girls in a pub kaada mana MPs ani prasnistunna ??? Jai Sri Ram .. http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/171407.html?1332602643 |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5642 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:45 pm: |
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Indiarocks:President, executive chiefs ki unnayi. MLAs, MPs, senators, members of houses ki ekkada unnayi?
ok... if you want to look at legislative and executive term limits separately there are lot of countries with legislative term limits and the idea is popular in US also and bills were proposed for it but failed. it is not never unheard of like you said http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1967192,00. html mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 9649 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:40 pm: |
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Indiarocks:You talk at length abt freedom and liberty. Oka MLA, MP ni malli elect cheskovalo, vaddo telchukune freedom voter ki undadda? Laws tho danni impose cheyala?
sanman final answer... The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks
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Post Number: 9647 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:34 pm: |
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Sanman: term limits almost anni developed countries lo unnayi. what IR sir
President, executive chiefs ki unnayi. MLAs, MPs, senators, members of houses ki ekkada unnayi? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5640 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:31 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Asalu em policy cheyalo artham avvatanike 5yrs pattachu.
whyyy are you expecting so little out of fresh politicians ? they are not coming from outer space. they are in that place because they knew what is wrong and they are there to change it (ideally)
Indiarocks:Daani paina india lanti diverse country lo conflicting interests annitini compromise cheyali ante it can take decades to bring a bill of significant change. Telangana lo compromise ravali ante 5yrs chala?
but when you wish for a new system isnt the goal to make that learning curve shorter ?
Indiarocks:Asalu ye country lo lenivi pattukuni India meeda experiments cheddama, lekapothe already matured democracies lo success ainavi, like decentralization, implementation ki try cheddama?
term limits almost anni developed countries lo unnayi. what IR sir http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_term_limits mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 9645 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:23 pm: |
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Sanman:
You talk at length abt freedom and liberty. Oka MLA, MP ni malli elect cheskovalo, vaddo telchukune freedom voter ki undadda? Laws tho danni impose cheyala? Oka extremely knowledgeable, capable, honest MLA/MP unte ppl malli athanni elect cheskovali anukokudada? Vaadokkadena ani adagachu, probably yes in that constituency. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9644 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:18 pm: |
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Sanman:vajpayee may not be the ideal PM we never had yet.
Never called him the ideal PM. Sanman: again you are looking at how things are done in present. look at why they are that way. we are talking about getting people in offices who will have the motivation to make it so it does not take 2 years for trivial things like that
Asalu em policy cheyalo artham avvatanike 5yrs pattachu. Daani paina india lanti diverse country lo conflicting interests annitini compromise cheyali ante it can take decades to bring a bill of significant change. Telangana lo compromise ravali ante 5yrs chala? Asalu ye country lo lenivi pattukuni India meeda experiments cheddama, lekapothe already matured democracies lo success ainavi, like decentralization, implementation ki try cheddama? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5637 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 10:12 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Identi babu, Vajpayee lanti leaders overnight, or single term lo vachesara? As an MP you get to work on several committees on policy making. PM gaa use undada aa experience?
vajpayee may not be the ideal PM we never had yet. or imagine if he became the PM when he was 40. what did he learn in the next 30 years that he didn't before that ?
Indiarocks:Power in the hands of ppl does not mean everybody has to be made an MP, or an MLA. That is why we have voting.
"potentially" ani oka word add cheste your sentence is correct
Indiarocks:I will give you a real example. Hitech city to some place flyover sanction ayyindi Hyd lo recently. Somebody with as much experience, fame and clout like JP had to work so hard on it for abt 2yrs to get it running.
again you are looking at how things are done in present. look at why they are that way. we are talking about getting people in offices who will have the motivation to make it so it does not take 2 years for trivial things like that mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9641 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 09:53 pm: |
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Sanman: i don't know how experience as an MP will help you be a better PM. those are two completely different jobs. and someone doesnt have to learn everything on the job. people can get to know the workings of an office before they get in. reforms always come from fresh blood
Identi babu, Vajpayee lanti leaders overnight, or single term lo vachesara? As an MP you get to work on several committees on policy making. PM gaa use undada aa experience? Power in the hands of ppl does not mean everybody has to be made an MP, or an MLA. That is why we have voting. Sanman:are you kidding me. 5 yrs to convince who ? and if the idea is so important, would he be the last person in the country to realize that ? how about passing on the beacon to next guy in line who might have better ideas to get it done. it is like giving second chances to people like cbn. go home dude its been 9 years. give someone else a chance other than ur son
Bill frame cheyatam ante okka single idea kaadu kada? I will give you a real example. Hitech city to some place flyover sanction ayyindi Hyd lo recently. Somebody with as much experience, fame and clout like JP had to work so hard on it for abt 2yrs to get it running. Okka local flyover ke 2yrs padithe nationwide policy ki 5yrs pattada? Okadu reservation antadu, inkodu minorities antadu, inkodu regional ani inkedo amendment antadu. 5yr term lo changes teeskocheyala? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5636 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 09:44 pm: |
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Indiarocks:This is like since most of the MPs are corrupt you want to disable the parliament itself.
on the contrary i want to open the parliament to common man once again
Indiarocks:For eg, oka MP judiciary ni reform cheyali anukunnadu. He has less than 5yrs to convince the majority. Otherwise somebody else has to start afresh again from the 1 MP count.
are you kidding me. 5 yrs to convince who ? and if the idea is so important, would he be the last person in the country to realize that ? how about passing on the beacon to next guy in line who might have better ideas to get it done. it is like giving second chances to people like cbn. go home dude its been 9 years. give someone else a chance other than ur son
Indiarocks:Inkoka problem is a 5yr period as an MP enough to become the PM of the nation? Experience vadda?
i don't know how experience as an MP will help you be a better PM. those are two completely different jobs. and someone doesnt have to learn everything on the job. people can get to know the workings of an office before they get in. reforms always come from fresh blood mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 9640 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 09:32 pm: |
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Sanman:and the way to take away his motivation would be to make the office less appealing. less money means less corruption. also power for one term means people from other careers giving it a shot and going back to what they were doing. not a group of people depending on that money for lives
This is like since most of the MPs are corrupt you want to disable the parliament itself. For eg, oka MP judiciary ni reform cheyali anukunnadu. He has less than 5yrs to convince the majority. Otherwise somebody else has to start afresh again from the 1 MP count. Inkoka problem is a 5yr period as an MP enough to become the PM of the nation? Experience vadda? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5634 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 09:23 pm: |
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Indiarocks:RTI did not take decades. right?
mmmm it kind of did. what makes you think it didn't ? the initiation came from NGOs that too a bit late. don't you think a less personally motivated legislature would have done something a couple decades sooner ?
Indiarocks:Simple question, why do you think Jagan wants thousands of crores, or why do you think an MLA is looking for tens of crores? Greed undachu, but 100crs, or 1000crs difference ledu kada?
the answer you want might be to spend in elections or stay in power. and the way to take away his motivation would be to make the office less appealing. less money means less corruption. also power for one term means people from other careers giving it a shot and going back to what they were doing. not a group of people depending on that money for lives mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9639 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 09:17 pm: |
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Sanman: good point. may be we are talking about speeding up the process of reforms and make current generations suffer less instead of taking decades for each revolutionary change
RTI did not take decades. right? Simple question, why do you think Jagan wants thousands of crores, or why do you think an MLA is looking for tens of crores? Greed undachu, but 100crs, or 1000crs difference ledu kada? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
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Indiarocks:RTI cutting branch they are sitting on kaada? How did that come thru?
good point. may be we are talking about speeding up the process of reforms and make current generations suffer less instead of taking decades for each revolutionary change mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
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Sanman:decentralization is as much impossible as term limits since both mean current legislators have to cut the branch that they are sitting on
RTI cutting branch they are sitting on kaada? How did that come thru? 2G scam, and many other corruption cases anni bayatiki vastunnadi RTI valane kada? Recent gaa oka law pass kooda ayindi. Planning commission nundi vache funds direct gaa district collectors ki velthayi. District ni unit gaa teeskuntaru not the state. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
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Indiarocks:
of course if we are talking about taking away money out of politics decentralization is the first step. decentralization is as much impossible as term limits since both mean current legislators have to cut the branch that they are sitting on i want to see a day when middle class and low income people can go to assembly and parliament to make laws mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
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Sanman:developed countries lo corruption undhi. washington is probably more corrupt than delhi. political clarity unna developed countries lone govt lo corruption undhi. untundhi. to minimize it we need a system where the water doesnt stay stagnant long enough to grow moss. politics should not be a career option
Washington may be more corrupt than Delhi, but here corruption is probably limited to Washington or a few state capitols. Manaki? Prathi MLA constituency lo corruption ye. Only bcoz of the system of making the MLA, Minister, and CM a power center. Ikkada oka small town lo few millions invest cheyali ante voting untundi. Tax penchali ante untundi. Manaki ivanni ekkada, MLA velli minister kallu padathadu, anthe vaadiki favor ga GO vachestundi. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
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Indiarocks:Jagan
you are thinking about jagan, bob, ysr etc they would not have entered politics for one term
Indiarocks:janam pattinchukokapothe edi maaradu. There is no alternative to that period.
developed countries lo corruption undhi. washington is probably more corrupt than delhi. political clarity unna developed countries lone govt lo corruption undhi. untundhi. to minimize it we need a system where the water doesnt stay stagnant long enough to grow moss. politics should not be a career option mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
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Sanman: evaru chedda vaadu evadu manchi vaadu evaru decide cheyali voluntary gaa oppukoru janam pattinchukoru ippudu matram chedda vaadu mla kaavaali mp kaavaali ani vote estunnaara manaku nachina andaru manchi vaalle
janam pattinchukokapothe edi maaradu. There is no alternative to that period. US lo president ni elect cheyali ante 1year time spend chestunnaru. Tens of debates, ideas being proposed, analysis on those ideas, weighing pros and cons etc. Same goes with election of mayors, governors in cities, and states locally. I am not saying its perfect, but a lot better. Oka town lo oka small developmental project ki 4mill spend cheyali ante ppl are voting on it, people are participating in the debate and telling why they want it, or don't want it. India lo emayyindi mayarogam? Prathi okkadu road baledu, inkedo baledu, kaneesam complaint ivvaru, malli overnight singapore aipovali. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks
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Post Number: 9635 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Sanman:the goal is to make politics less appealing to people after easy money oka term kosam elect kaavadaaniki intha kashtapadaru kadha adhi kuda gelisthe oka term lekapothe full bokka
Jagan 2yrs lo ante not even half term lo 77crs nundi 435crs ki velladu. And this is only white. Inka black entha untundi demudike teliyali. Only one term is not the solution. State budget motham pancheskunna pancheskuntaru, daniki saripoda 1 term? MLAs, MPs asalu power centers avvatam problem. Prapancham lo ekkada ila undadu. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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appudu bi-elections undavu. padavi ni gaDDi pocha lekka theeskoni raajeenama cheyyadam undadu. assembly/parliament full term 5 years pani chestai. kani, ee 5 yrs full thinatame pani. ante prajopayoga projects chaala modalu avutai. kontha percent vaallu thinaga migilina daanitho public works jarugutai, like fly overs, roads, bridges etc. 5 yrs tarvaatha pellam, koduku, koothuru, kodalu, alludu........ aa tarvaatha pani manishi, driver........ ilaa oka 2 decades gadipestar en kaadhal puriyalaya un nastam anbe po |
   
Sanman
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Indiarocks:Bad idea, chedda vadu few terms lo vellipovali anukovatam correct, at the same time manchi vallu ekkuva terms undatam kooda anthe important.
evaru chedda vaadu evadu manchi vaadu evaru decide cheyali voluntary gaa oppukoru janam pattinchukoru ippudu matram chedda vaadu mla kaavaali mp kaavaali ani vote estunnaara manaku nachina andaru manchi vaalle the goal is to make politics less appealing to people after easy money oka term kosam elect kaavadaaniki intha kashtapadaru kadha adhi kuda gelisthe oka term lekapothe full bokka mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Idle_yzag:atleast 2 times pettali, ee Idea chala mandhi suggest chesaru
boku idea...top chairs ki limit pettali membership in house ki kaadhu |
   
Vivekanandji
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Sanman:i think MLA and MP terms should be limited to one term. you get elected only once to office even in case of mid term polls
Emundhi 2nd term ki mla will contest as MP and the MP will contest as MLA. Inkaa rajyasabha, mlc, ilaa chaanaa unnaayi avi choosukuntaaru  Andharuu Baagundaali. |
   
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elaaagu one term ani inkonchem ekkuva chesthaaru, ippudu thakkuva chesthunnaar ani kaadhu gaaanee. One term is not a solution. For example kalam laantodu vasthe we want him for more than one term. but rules like, if you resign for some reason, you are not eligible again, laanti rules raavaali, oorike resign chese naakodukul ekkuvaipoyaaru. Also, 2 places lo contest cheyadam theeseyaaali, joke aipoindhi edhavalki. Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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Risingstar
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Idle_yzag:
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atleast 2 times pettali, ee Idea chala mandhi suggest chesaru RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Sanman:i think MLA and MP terms should be limited to one term. you get elected only once to office even in case of mid term polls
monna tupaakulannav...ivvala terms tagginchaali antunnaav...Member of any house is also like gaining experience with each term...neeku intha vipareetha aalochanlu elaa vasthaayi...kikiki |
   
Onlytruth
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appudu peekku dobbutaaaru corruption elaagu single term ani |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 9634 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Sanman:i think MLA and MP terms should be limited to one term. you get elected only once to office even in case of mid term polls who will be the losers of such a law MLA MP are not supposed to lifetime posts making a career out of these posts is a joke it is not a tough job it does not need training or education and there are a billion people qualified for the job so a few hundred must be up to the task every few years i think it will root out political corruption altogether and politics will stop becoming a lucrative job for the crooks obviously if the MLA or MP term is one year a CM or PM wont be able to continue for more than 2 terms (MLA+MLC, LS+RS) of course for something like that to happen the constitution has to be amended by the current MPs who wont do it so this is purely hypothetical
Bad idea, chedda vadu few terms lo vellipovali anukovatam correct, at the same time manchi vallu ekkuva terms undatam kooda anthe important. YSR, Jagan ki 2terms saripoleda motham dochukodaniki? Only remedy is that educated middle class that don't need money/freebies to vote come out and participate in politics. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman:that will still be limited to a few terms and the prospect wont be as much a lucrative career as it is now the reason we see families being pitched is because of a sense of political entitlement when you are presented the choice even before you decide to become a career politician party lo emanna undochu lifelong posts like local tdp and national congress has but public offices wont it will be a deterring factor for easy money fishers to come into politics
ofcourse it would be better than now .. kaani jushht septhunna.. mana valla dhorani ela untadhoo.. monna evado septhunnad, charter vaadu first sign in deal kindha first 6 months oka deal ichi aa tharvatha increase sesthad ante... oss dhanidhi emundhi 6 months tharvatha sange it on wifes name annaad.. same to same ala work out avuthadhi anipinsindhi  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Sanman
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Mental_sachinodu:hmmm why worry, i will pitch my wife, and then son, and then daughter in law
that will still be limited to a few terms and the prospect wont be as much a lucrative career as it is now the reason we see families being pitched is because of a sense of political entitlement when you are presented the choice even before you decide to become a career politician party lo emanna undochu lifelong posts like local tdp and national congress has but public offices wont it will be a deterring factor for easy money fishers to come into politics mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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hmmm why worry, i will pitch my wife, and then son, and then daughter in law  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5625 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
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i think MLA and MP terms should be limited to one term. you get elected only once to office even in case of mid term polls who will be the losers of such a law MLA MP are not supposed to lifetime posts making a career out of these posts is a joke it is not a tough job it does not need training or education and there are a billion people qualified for the job so a few hundred must be up to the task every few years i think it will root out political corruption altogether and politics will stop becoming a lucrative job for the crooks obviously if the MLA or MP term is one year a CM or PM wont be able to continue for more than 2 terms (MLA+MLC, LS+RS) of course for something like that to happen the constitution has to be amended by the current MPs who wont do it so this is purely hypothetical mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |