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Jai Sri Ram ..

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Jai Sri Ram ..

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Jackjill:

idealists




Tittara ? :-)

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Shikari:

threaten endhuku...ekam ga musi dobbochuga..edhava natakalu kakapothe.


aa maata sepptaniki nuvvu nenu evuru babu, let them decide what they want to do, but emotional black mailing baa ledhu.

I feel JPs pain, but showing an attitude of "I am doing a favor to you by being in politics" baaledhu anta, Who asked you to start a political party, in the first place? And Who are you asking whether to move forward?

Emo le janam pagal gallu ani decide chesi dobbar, naak evitki.. seppu
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Jackjill:

threaten people about closing down the party



threaten endhuku...ekam ga musi dobbochuga..edhava natakalu kakapothe.
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Samarasimha:


Aina endhi vaa mee iddaru, idealists desam kosam discuss chestunte Kotla Vijay bhaskar reddy,Chenna Reddy ani gola..

BTW, Samara annai.. Nedurumalli Janrdhan Reddy ni endhuku peekesaaro telusa CM seat nunchi
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Indiarocks:

Did you ever see water boil? Till water reaches the boiling point it appears as if nothing is happening. But, you still have to continue heating it. If you think that nothing is happening and stop the heating process you are never going to get to the boiling point.


I do not know about your proximity to JP and Lok Satta party, but if you have any access to either them, ask them not to get frustrated and threaten people about closing down the party, just because it did not even receive 10% of the votes lately. Ask him to wait till the water starts boiling
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Anand_n:

Was that not what I said in the first post in this thread ? :-)




You said it, but you also said that you don't see it happening. How did this happen then?

Indiarocks:

Who would have expected that India, being ruled by a corrupt Congress Govt, will get a law like the RTI? And who would have expected that the same law would come back to bite them in the 2G case? These are all miracles, but we fail to recognize them, and hence the skepticism.



The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks:

People only have to recognize that they have all the power to elect good people and make the system work.




Was that not what I said in the first post in this thread ? :-)

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Anand_n:

Ee statement meeru kada icharu - what was a logical end in your mind when you said this?




The massive support Hazare's movement achieved proved two things. People are not happy with the status quo, and are willing to do something.

Inka logical end enti ante channelizing the mass fervor towards an active participation in politics.


Anand_n:

I did not see a logical end to that movement atleast not for a long time- I saw it as a long process with small milestones .. I am not discounting what the movement did achieve- it raised awareness, it showed people can be mobilised for a cause

But a continuous process with small victories finds it difficult to hold public revolutionary interest longterm...




Revolution ante janalu panulu manesi roju ramlila maidan lo koorchovakkarledu. Manaki aa avasaram kooda ledu since we are already a democracy with a decent electoral system. People only have to recognize that they have all the power to elect good people and make the system work.
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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ilanti speeches mana JP garu kuda danchutaru kada whats new?
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Indiarocks:

Ok, what is the logical end in your opinion, and why was that not achievable?





Indiarocks:

failed to channelize all the energy towards a logical end.




Ee statement meeru kada icharu - what was a logical end in your mind when you said this? :-)


I did not see a logical end to that movement atleast not for a long time- I saw it as a long process with small milestones .. I am not discounting what the movement did achieve- it raised awareness, it showed people can be mobilised for a cause

But a continuous process with small victories finds it difficult to hold public revolutionary interest longterm...

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Anand_n:

TO my mind , the problem was the absence of an achievable logical end :-)




Ok, what is the logical end in your opinion, and why was that not achievable?
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks:

failed to channelize all the energy towards a logical end.




TO my mind , the problem was the absence of an achievable logical end :-)

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Anand_n:

Agree - the efforts need to continue - but I am not expecting miracles




If water starts to boil right away its a miracle, but if it starts to do so after heating for some time, its looks like a natural process. In a democracy change happens the same way, of course only if the country patiently marches towards the right direction for a long time.

Anand_n:

Anna Hazare was successful in uniting the public against a conceptual public enemy "corruption" ..but look at what happened when the public did not get the gratification of "defeating" the enemy ...:-)




Isn't this equivalent to expecting a mega miracle, defeating a 60yr old enemy at once? Hazare united ppl but failed to channelize all the energy towards a logical end.

Who would have expected that India, being ruled by a corrupt Congress Govt, will get a law like the RTI? And who would have expected that the same law would come back to bite them in the 2G case? These are all miracles, but we fail to recognize them, and hence the skepticism.
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks:

Same way a revolution does not happen overnight, and skepticism is not going to help till India reaches the tipping point.




Agree - the efforts need to continue - but I am not expecting miracles:-)

A big factor in any successful revolution is a common enemy against whom the public unites to overthrow or defeat...Such an entity does not exist in India because it is a democracy...who do they overthrow and who do they install in their place ?

Anna Hazare was successful in uniting the public against a conceptual public enemy "corruption" ..but look at what happened when the public did not get the gratification of "defeating" the enemy ...:-)

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Samarasimha:

vurike time waste hatred yendhuku


corruption ethi choopiste hatred antaav annamata... ante ippudu nenu Kiku,Botsa ni kuda hate chestunnatte mari... inka kaanee nee postss...nen vunta
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Samarasimha:

Current AP govt. lo ye corruption kanapadatam ledha niku ?




neeku kanipinchatam ledhu emo..naaku kanapaduthune vunnai... monna botsa dorikaadu...repu Kiku dorukuthaadu... so nee vuddesam lo andarinee tappu pattaali gani YSR family ni voggeyyali antaav..anthenaa? :D
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Coolmac:

I am sure u wont get the meaning in this




nijama ? Current AP govt. lo ye corruption kanapadatam ledha niku ? voka police vadini pampaesaru inko pakka CBI ni rajakiya avasrala kosam pabbam gadupukuntunaru..

naku ardham ayeena kakapoyeena peddha pharak padadu kani yennalu mosam cheyadame rajakiyam ..opportunism ye core philosophy anukuntaru..
Anti corruption lanti ideology ni avakasavadham kosam vadakandi ..chesthe root level nundi support cheyamani vinnapalu anthe



Coolmac:

Marri chenna reddy
Kasu Brahmananda reddy


villaki yenni news paper lu studio lu heritage lu vunnai ..Abids lo cinema halla kada nundi yenni vunai voka lekka veyandi root causes vedhukudham vurike time waste hatred yendhuku
RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !!
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Indiarocks:

JP speech di emundi prapancham choodatleda?


Asal JP ki gaani LS ki gaani Chitha Sudhi vundhaa?
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Mental_sachinodu:

JP speech tyfe lo undhi




JP speech di emundi prapancham choodatleda?

3yrs ago evaru oohincharu Egypt, or Tunisia lo ala jarugutundi ani.

Only difference is India does not need such a revolution as we have democratic systems in place.
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Indiarocks:

Did you ever see water boil? Till water reaches the boiling point it appears as if nothing is happening. But, you still have to continue heating it. If you think that nothing is happening and stop the heating process you are never going to get to the boiling point.

Same way a revolution does not happen overnight, and skepticism is not going to help till India reaches the tipping point.




JP speech tyfe lo undhi ..


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Samarasimha:

ee pachi aavakasa vadam TDP ni brathikincha ledhu long term lo nilabade nayakudni idealogy thisuku randi




corruption gurinchi matladuthunte TDP ni bathikinchamantav entayya nuvvu... TDP sachipothe AP em sachipodhu ...kani ee corruption valana ithe AP sachipodhi... I am sure u wont get the meaning in this :D
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Samarasimha:

82 ki mundhu vunna ye CM ki vokka yekaram land ledhu .asalu ee type start chesindhe manam




Marri chenna reddy
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Anand_n:

I would love to see that happen but am skeptical about how many of the people will actually go to the poll booth to click none...




Did you ever see water boil? Till water reaches the boiling point it appears as if nothing is happening. But, you still have to continue heating it. If you think that nothing is happening and stop the heating process you are never going to get to the boiling point.

Same way a revolution does not happen overnight, and skepticism is not going to help till India reaches the tipping point.
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Masala_dosa:

sry to disagree with u. people ni anadam challa easy. but think about them.




Firstly - none of us need t be sorry to disagree with anyone else :-)And we are all part of the people...people is not some 3rd person here.


Masala_dosa:

mana ki selection ki matrame hakku undi. no right to reject. EVM lo none ani intro sesina roju mana mps, mlas lo 2/3 vodipotarani dhanka bajayinci cheptunna.




I would love to see that happen but am skeptical about how many of the people will actually go to the poll booth to click none...



Samarasimha:

All I wanted to say mob mobilization towards education should be taken as very high priority , the rest they will create the path out to viscous circle we are talking about.




Agree - but in a country of India's size- and with the decentralization of media, there is no control on the message that gets to the people .. While it is good for the people most of the time - the downside is it also provides a platform for the people who are deepening the chasms...and people lower in the food chain are more susceptible to " I am your kind, on your side " messaging .


Samarasimha:

For sure this will continue this doesn't mean we can find a better solution.




I am the eternal optimist - but I don't see a solution right now unless someone sets an example in a small way and people catch on to it:-)


Samarasimha:

Majority of Indians raised under myths only expecting magic to be done be some one and locked in culture never willing to take responsibility .




Agree partially with that -Adjusting to circumstances cos we believe it is our "karma " has pluses and minuses :-)That culture prevents people from becoming too restless and rebelling - maintaining a semblance of peace...
But it also takes away the drive to take ownership and trigger change...:-)

Kimura,

Initiate cheyyataniki people need to have the confidence that they can achieve something - no one will start something that they believe is going to fail ..and our electorate has become too cynical to give new people a chance:-)

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Coolmac:

8yrs nunchi power lo lenolla gurinchi ippudu edavaalaa? ninna gaka monna dobbesinodi gurinchi vadhaa?



chethanayeethe motham gurinchi yedavali selective ga yendhuku ? ee pachi aavakasa vadam TDP ni brathikincha ledhu long term lo nilabade nayakudni idealogy thisuku randi
82 ki mundhu vunna ye CM ki vokka yekaram land ledhu .asalu ee type start chesindhe manam
RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !!
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/anupam_mishra_the_ancient_ingenuity_of_water_harvesting.html
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Rajusk:

evado jebulu kotte vadiki..mandi kadupu kotte vaadiki aithe support cheyyan...naa agenda kosam..



nenu cheppe bottmline vokkate anti corruption perutho avakasavadani musugu lo vesukuni voka person meeda padi samvatsaraulu tharabadi yedusthunaru..
ide Jagan Congi lo vunte ye gola vundedhi kadhu yedo try chedhamu anukunnadu TDP assam ayetattu knabaduthundhi gola modhalu pettaru..

current govt. lo asalu jaragadam ledhu corruption ..central congi yemi collect chesukovadam ledhu ee roju kuda ..
chuss..Jagan defending post la nundi relief kosam vesanu ee thread ..
RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !!
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Write up bagundi kani democracy lo dhritarashtrulu prajalu - the people are the ones who put their favorites( Duryodhanalu) in ruling positions...till people open their eyes and acknowledge that why will anything be different ?



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aadhe voopu lo CBN ni TDP corruption meeda kuda yedisthe yedho voka roju aa results vosthai




8yrs nunchi power lo lenolla gurinchi ippudu edavaalaa? ninna gaka monna dobbesinodi gurinchi vadhaa? malli nuvvu neetulu septhunnavaa rajusk ki?? assal emee anipinchatam ledhaa neeku? or just for the sake of argument kosam cheppinaavaa? just curious
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Samarasimha:

aadhe voopu lo CBN ni TDP corruption meeda kuda yedisthe yedho voka roju aa results vosthai




CBN power lo vachinappud nenu inka DB lo unte ayana meeda edustan..nenu DB lo vachesariki ayana power lo ledu...

Talasani Yadav gaadu OU VC ni select chesthunte kooda nenu edisan..aalugaddalu ammukone howle gaadu evvadu VC ni decide cheyyadaniki ani..appudu DB ledu

at least naa manasakshi ni sampukoni ...evado jebulu kotte vadiki..mandi kadupu kotte vaadiki aithe support cheyyan...naa agenda kosam..

so naa sangathi naaku baaga telusu...
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nenu aithe Kalmadi kooda edisanu ..em labham..



akkada miru selective ga yedusthunaru gani system ni change cheyataniki inch kuda kadhalaru kadha ..aadhe voopu lo CBN ni TDP corruption meeda kuda yedisthe yedho voka roju aa results vosthai
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Samarasimha:

Absolutely true but first thing here is propaganda for the required education to open the majority people open their eyes



first of all apologies to post correct sentence here as white fellow next to me following my posts ..

All I wanted to say mob mobilization towards education should be taken as very high priority , the rest they will create the path out to viscous circle we are talking about.

Anand_n:

unfortunately is unlikely to happen as long as we have politicians reinforcing the silos to preserve votebanks ..



For sure this will continue this doesn't mean we can find a better solution.First thing is creating propaganda for needs and things . In Abdul Kalam terms dream for the future and work hard to realize them.
Majority of Indians raised under myths only expecting magic to be done be some one and locked in culture never willing to take responsibility .


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recognition that social/security/status needs can be served by people not of your creed too ..


I too strongly agree with this before I find a dream leader of my wish list I am open to change or slide If find better.I choose Jagan in contemporary politics with assumption to kill congress culture of centralized ruling.
I choose YSR based on needs of my villager wishes. When CBN preached about hitec I too inspired but realized the reality on ground NTR is far better as a leader
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Samarasimha:

Kasepu aa Jagan meeda yedupu aapi ilativi alochinchandi all haters Snma.. Rujsk etc...




nenu aithe Kalmadi kooda edisanu ..em labham..vaadu already bayata tiruguthunnad..jail lo nunchi bayataki vachi..

think seyyalsindi meere anukonta..kiki
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election procedures and laws should be changed to make sure we get good people in the office.. who is going to make these changes - the elected people in office now??

janalu nammina okkadiki 30 votelu vaste.. migilina 70 votelu (rigging or cash for vote scheme) sampadinchina 5partylu kalisi govt form chestunnay.. how is this going to change??

manushulani maintian cheyyagaligina vadu matrame cheyyagalugutunnadu politics.. ila unte how many educated people are going to want to take part in politics.. ee party gelavaledu bigger stage lo ani telavagane aa party manchidaina votelu veyyatledu

sampadinchina vaade successful.. sampadinchakapothe waste ani decide chestunnaru india lo.. ethics ane mataki ardham lekunda pothundi.. pratthi vaadu quick buck kosame choostunnaru..

basic problems unnay india lo.. grass roots level lo.. leader okkadostadu ani alochistunnaru.. but leader ane vadu ekkadanincho raadu.. mana mindsets maarithe maname leaders autham ani alochinchadam ledu..
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Anand:

the people are the ones who put their favorites( Duryodhanalu) in ruling positions...




sry to disagree with u. people ni anadam challa easy. but think about them.

mana ki selection ki matrame hakku undi. no right to reject. EVM lo none ani intro sesina roju mana mps, mlas lo 2/3 vodipotarani dhanka bajayinci cheptunna.

janalu telivaina valle but balaheenulu. rajyangam vallani inka balaheenulni sestundi
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Samarasimha:

If people believe that leaders will create a better resources for sure they vote for that kind.




Resources for them - not for general public ...the average voter - educated or uneducated thinks of his/her interests.. :-)

For the poor and uneducated it is the basic necessities in life- so they will think short-term.. for the educated and middleclass whose basic needs are met, it is social/security/status needs - which currently translate into voting for their "kind"...

So neither voter is any better or worse - they just have different interests.

What has to happen in the educated layer is a recognition that social/security/status needs can be served by people not of your creed too ..and that unfortunately is unlikely to happen as long as we have politicians reinforcing the silos to preserve votebanks ..

Its a vicious cycle - don't see any easy solution there .. unless something disrupts the system and people are forced to change that paradigm.

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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the people are the ones who put their favorites( Duryodhanalu) in ruling positions...till people open their eyes and acknowledge that why will anything be different ? :-)




Absolutely true but first thing here is propaganda for the required education to open the majority people open their eyes. If people believe that leaders will create a better resources for sure they vote for that kind.
My strong feeling is uneducated is far better in thinking than polarized educated ,who are biased for creed support.
But these uneducated look for short term benefits rather long term,which are never realized so far and there no hope for that.
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Write up bagundi kani democracy lo dhritarashtrulu prajalu - the people are the ones who put their favorites( Duryodhanalu) in ruling positions...till people open their eyes and acknowledge that why will anything be different ? :-)


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Write up bagundi kani democracy lo dhritarashtrulu prajalu - the people are the ones who put their favorites( Duryodhanalu) in ruling positions...till people open their eyes and acknowledge that why will anything be different ? :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Samarasimha:

The Indian authorities are ignoring very real problems and pretending they do not exist. In 2010, when the Commonwealth Games were held in New Delhi, rather than using them as an opportunity to improve conditions, they temporarily moved the homeless out of the city and




Kasepu aa Jagan meeda yedupu aapi ilativi alochinchandi all haters Snma.. Rujsk etc...
RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !!
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/anupam_mishra_the_ancient_ingenuity_of_water_harvesting.html
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source : Financial Times

A critical element of the ancient and still relevant epic Indian story, the Mahabharata, is that King Dhritarashtra is blind, both physically and emotionally. He cannot see the ruthless ambition of his eldest son nor the ultimate tragic consequences it could bring. Rather than trying to accept, face and solve the growing problem, he simply, and literally, turns a blind eye.

It is pretty much the same story in India today. The Indian authorities are ignoring very real problems and pretending they do not exist. In 2010, when the Commonwealth Games were held in New Delhi, rather than using them as an opportunity to improve conditions, they temporarily moved the homeless out of the city and put up advertisement hoardings around the slums to hide them.

Rather than answering the genuine safety concerns of anti-nuclear protesters in southern India this year, the prime minister shifted the spotlight by saying that the protests were influenced by foreign nongovernmental organisations. Many local protesters were arrested and several foreign NGOs were put on a watch list. Rather than addressing the growing violence towards women in the Delhi suburb of Gurgaon, last week the police simply told women to stay at home after 8pm. This week, instead of fighting poverty, the Planning Commission lowered the poverty line and announced a reduction in the number of poor.

From stories shelved under “myth”, we have moved to those labelled “magic realism”. From the tourism department tagline of “Incredible India”, we are evolving into “Surreal India”. The magic realism writers Gabriel Garciá Márquez and Salman Rushdie would be proud of us. But even magic realism has to make sense.

There is a literary device called deus ex machina, in which the author contrives a neat but implausible solution for an apparently insoluble problem. Indian leaders seem fond of this tool as a way to resolve serious issues. But it is not working, for three reasons.

First, it is not based on reality.

Second, the readers are not finding it satisfactory. Even ordinary people are beginning to suspect the logic of the plot. Harry Potter’s Confundus Charm is wearing off, the people feel that all is not well in Delhi and they are starting to see right through the authorities’ claims. This is the key reason for the various protests around the nation – whether they be anti-corruption, anti-nuclear, or anti-violence against women.

Third, if we continue in this way, the story will not have a happy ending. Ignoring the situation will not make it go away. With reference to India’s status on the UN’s Millennium Development Goals, Unicef says there is “stagnation in key social indicators, particularly among disadvantaged populations (ie geographically, by caste, gender)”. Violence against women starts at an early age, as shown by continued high rates of female infanticide and a skewed sex ratio of children under the age of six. And, worryingly, despite lowering the poverty line, the number of poor has risen in several states, including populous ones such as Bihar and Uttar Pradesh.

The need for inclusive growth has been highlighted by experts in the social, academic and business arenas. Ajay Chhibber, UN assistant secretary general and regional director (Asia-Pacific) of the UN Development Programme, sees India as a place “ . . . where poverty still remains deep and where exclusion could be socially explosive”.

Michael Kumhof and Romain Ranciere, two IMF economists, think that income inequality can lead to financial crisis. A recent report by Deloitte, the auditor, breaks down India’s lack of inclusivity into several specific issues, such as low agricultural growth, low-quality employment, poor education and inadequate healthcare services. Even India’s Planning Commission has made inclusive growth a goal of their current five-year plan. However, this cannot be done merely by writing an implausible happy ending. What is needed are real solutions arising from a true perspective of the problem, accepting its urgency and conscientious analysis of the situation.

While in the Mahabharata, King Dhritarashtra really is blind, India’s leaders have the responsibility to open their eyes and see the reality of the situation. More than 1bn people require a happy ending. Maybe it is time to try some non-fiction.

The writer is a Delhi-based commentator
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