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Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1408 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 125.22.249.81
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 30, 2012 - 01:36 am: |
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Bushu: Gandhi was out of picture. patel was left with security aspects.
Gandhi and Patel .. no one existed after 1950! Tilak: "A village, normally speaking, is backward intellectually and culturally and no progress can be made from a backward environment. Narrow-minded people are much more likely to be untruthful and violent."
anniti kante keka idi .. wah .. asalu entha balupu .. if I am permitted to use that word!!! "What to me is even more pathetic is that you regard Russia as your spiritual home. Despising Indian culture, you dream of planting the Russian system here." - Gandhi to communists in 1947 http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/171407.html?1332602643 |
   
Bushu
Side Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 4842 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 4.26.17.58
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 09:53 pm: |
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Indiarocks:You cannot think with today's mindset after 60yrs of India staying together and judge policies in those days.
I am not. caesar is home |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9512 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 08:50 pm: |
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Bushu:I agree with some of his policies and actually think it was requried for the India of those times but never knew he had this disdain for villages. if true and if this drove his centralistic planning agenda, that is plain wrong.
You cannot think with today's mindset after 60yrs of India staying together and judge policies in those days. India as a single country with a single Govt was a very new thought in those days. The biggest task was to keep the country together that is why they preferred a centralized model of governance. There was always a fear of individual states trying to become independent if they became powerful. This is also one of the reasons why the administration did not want large states, fear of states getting too much powerful, and hence trying to become independent. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Bushu
Side Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 4841 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 4.26.17.58
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 08:42 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Let us, for a min assume that only Nehru wanted socialism. Patel, Rajaji, or Gandhi, or anybody else,
Gandhi was out of picture. patel was left with security aspects. Nehru had a huge influence of the russian/chinese socialist approach on him and he single handedly drove it down. I agree with some of his policies and actually think it was requried for the India of those times but never knew he had this disdain for villages. if true and if this drove his centralistic planning agenda, that is plain wrong. caesar is home |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9511 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 08:33 pm: |
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Sanman:i am comparing him to his contemporaries like gandhi, patel, rajaji etc . even PV stands much taller than him in my view. intentions ni question cheyalsina avasaram laedhu. just policies teesukunna you can see the damage he made to independent India. socialism is a very simplistic view adapted founded by morally, philosophically and intellectually challenged leadership. asalu delhi nundi development spread kaavaali anna pointe thappu. ika aa development lo bhaagam gaa enni colleges bridges kattisthe em laabham. result chustunnam kadha
India's economic policy ki okka Nehru ela karanam authadu? Let us, for a min assume that only Nehru wanted socialism. Patel, Rajaji, or Gandhi, or anybody else, did they oppose his view, and wanted free markets? Nehru was not the dictator, right? You cannot compare him with PV, both lived in different eras. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5457 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 08:10 pm: |
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Indiarocks:
i am comparing him to his contemporaries like gandhi, patel, rajaji etc . even PV stands much taller than him in my view. intentions ni question cheyalsina avasaram laedhu. just policies teesukunna you can see the damage he made to independent India. socialism is a very simplistic view adapted founded by morally, philosophically and intellectually challenged leadership. asalu delhi nundi development spread kaavaali anna pointe thappu. ika aa development lo bhaagam gaa enni colleges bridges kattisthe em laabham. result chustunnam kadha mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9510 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 07:48 pm: |
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Sanman: i don't think i hate him. but whenever i try to trace back the source of a major problem in India and its beginnings it goes to his administration and policies.
As the first PM of India Nehru did 100 things. Out of which 50 may be bad, 50 may be very good. Today its hard to find somebody who can do even 5 good things. By 1964 he was gone. If you are referring to his economic policies, any major change came only in the 90s. 30yrs is a long time to fix anything. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Chitti_v2
Side Hero Username: Chitti_v2
Post Number: 4808 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 98.27.60.191
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 07:46 pm: |
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Tilak:I do not understand why a village should necessarily embody truth and nonviolence
Tilak:"A village, normally speaking, is backward intellectually and culturally
ivi nehru annave ayithe......nehru oka tuglaq ani conpirming sesukuntunnaa |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5456 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 07:43 pm: |
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Indiarocks:why do u hate nehru so much?
i don't think i hate him. but whenever i try to trace back the source of a major problem in India and its beginnings it goes to his administration and policies. mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9509 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 07:34 pm: |
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Sanman:good article. rahul gandhi is nehru in making. lot of parallels. rich kid. poor brain. more attitude less matter. but enough bakras in the country to carry them
why do u hate nehru so much? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5455 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 07:28 pm: |
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good article. rahul gandhi is nehru in making. lot of parallels. rich kid. poor brain. more attitude less matter. but enough bakras in the country to carry them mindset of a TT - http://i42.tinypic.com/158a59s.jpg |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1407 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.241.71.0
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 04:11 pm: |
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Sri_anji:nidra po
cool deal .. gud day ... "What to me is even more pathetic is that you regard Russia as your spiritual home. Despising Indian culture, you dream of planting the Russian system here." - Gandhi to communists in 1947 http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/171407.html?1332602643 |
   
Sri_anji
Side Hero Username: Sri_anji
Post Number: 8810 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 63.66.34.226
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 04:09 pm: |
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Tilak:
nidra po Just4fun,Rajareddy appatlone BIG FARMER. vandala acres farming lands undevi. rajusk,"telisina ventane avi vapas ichesaru..endukante avi Assigned lands kabatti " |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1406 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.241.71.0
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 04:08 pm: |
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Their sharply differing economic visions put Gandhi and Nehru very much at odds. In 1945, Gandhi accused his appointed heir of being unfaithful to his economic vision of swadeshi and an India composed of harmonious villages. "I do not understand why a village should necessarily embody truth and nonviolence," Nehru shot back. "A village, normally speaking, is backward intellectually and culturally and no progress can be made from a backward environment. Narrow-minded people are much more likely to be untruthful and violent." The master's vision, said Nehru, was "completely unreal." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/pdf/prof_ja waharlalnehru.pdf "What to me is even more pathetic is that you regard Russia as your spiritual home. Despising Indian culture, you dream of planting the Russian system here." - Gandhi to communists in 1947 http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/171407.html?1332602643 |