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August 2010 lo AK Antony ki cheppaadu Gen VKS .. extension godava eppatidi? lol
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Tilakk 1 yr extn icchi unte chief goru bayatapettevaada
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http://www.firstpost.com/politics/clueless-gowda-denies-lobb yists-approaching-him-260070.html



Gen VKS .. hats off .. okkodi panchelu ooda teestunnav ga .. musalodu panche tadipesadu .. koduku maatalu kuda kotti paaresaad .. lol
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http://www.sunday-guardian.com/investigation/who-is-lt-gen-t ejinder-singh
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http://www.firstpost.com/india/army-chief-bribe-row-and-the- shady-world-of-arms-deals-257626.html

no doubt .. this tatra deal of 1986 .. concerns Sonia G .. otherwise, there is no reason why so much of mud slinging has to happen over an Army chief in their pet media .. any correct enquiry will show who helped this Ravi Rishi saab to get the multi thousand crore contract from MoD .. which was under Rajiv G at that time ..
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Gen VK Singh is a hero for fighting the Enemy Within


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It must be abundantly clear why Gen VK Singh today finds himself in an unholy mess. He has violated the Omerta Code of the Power Circle. The one that dictates that once youâve made it to the posh club of power insiders, you donât talk about some things, such as the gravy train that everyone rides on and feeds off.

In the posh clubs where liveried waiters hover like friendly ghosts, and where moustachioed Generals and netas in their pressed bandhgalas and babus in their pin-stripe suits guffaw and talk over their Patiala pegs, it is taboo to talk about money. Particularly the kind of obscene money that everyone gets a fair share of when deals are finalised.

Into that posh club, Gen VK Singh has blundered in like a barefoot dehati.

And, worse, he declines gratuitous invitations from fellow officers for him to become âone of themâ by getting suited-booted up, refuses to clamber aboard their gravy train and help himself to the goodies â and, horror of horrors, goes so far as to initiate investigations into their own conduct unbecoming of officers. All this merely because they played by the âjobs for the boysâ rules of the Power Club, and feathered their own nests.
VK Singh

If what it takes to get us even talk about the colossal mess we are in is for him to shake the government and our civil society out of our stupor, more power to you, Gen Singh. AFP

And now, he has begun focusing his Sauron eye on serving officers, who are in line to become Army Chief. Is the man mad, they wonder. How did we ever let him into the club, they fret.

Of course, there have been â and continue to be â honest men in the uniformed services, just as there are honest men in politics and in the civil service. But even when they themselves are scrupulously clean, they have all along abided by the Omerta Rule: even when they knew that other officers and netas and babu were pigging out on the trough, they chose to look the other way. Why blow the whistle and invite trouble, and risk losing their honour and their well-earned pension and the prospect of being invited to head some committee or a thinktank in the future?

Which is why the retired Lieutenant General whom Gen VK Singh accused of offering him a bribe cannot get his head around the fact that there are still a few good men in uniform. âArmy chiefs before you have accepted money, and army chiefs after you will, so why do you not?â he asked Gen VK Singh, when he made the offer of a Rs 14 crore bribe.

Today, Gen VK Singh, close to retirement and perhaps sensing that he has been robbed of his dignity in the battle with the government over his date of birth, has gone rogue. He has broken the Omerta Code of silence and is telling the world of the horrors he has seen within the Army fortresses. And it isnât a pretty picture.

Fellow officers are shaking their heads and tut-tutting into their Scotch on the rocks. Why rock the boat, they ask him. Why invite inglorious attention to what weâve tucked away out of sight âand put on a show of glorious make-believe? Why, oh why, canât you just look away?

The political establishment in its entirety is equally appalled. The General has become a guerilla warrior, they thunder. He ought to abide by the code, yield to civilian supremacy, and either stay silent or be sacked. In the same way that they rubbished Team Annaâs campaign against corruption last year and continued with their rollicking party in Parliament, they have ganged up against Gen VK Singh. In words eerily reminiscent of last year (in the context of Anna Hazareâs campaign), Lalu Prasad Yadav wonders if Gen VK Singh is angling for a career in politics.

And what of the media and sections of civil society? They too have their âanglesâ: Gen VK Singhâs motives are suspect, they say. Why did he not act in all the time that he was in office, why now, they wonder. In the same way that they turned on Team Anna and made mincemeat of that campaign, they are shredding Gen VK Singh to pieces â when, in fact, the focus then and now should have been on the sky-high corruption that they exposed.

Itâs a bizarre, perverted world if we are asked to tolerate the status quo, even when we know it to be venal, merely because the alternative â of shaking things up â makes us queasy. Because it violates Section 2, Subsection 3(a) of the club rules.

For sure, Gen VK Singh has gone rogue. But I say: more power to you, Gen Singh. Even if, as some have suggested, you are doing it only for megalomaniacal reasons â or out of a sense of pettiness. Even though I canât quite understand why you waited until now to say these things, Iâm just plain glad you are saying them at least now.

Any self-respecting civilian government or military force or civil society ought to be celebrating Gen VK Singh for being a true warrior and taking on the Enemy Within. The problems that he highlights are our collective problems. Those problems have turned us into a banana republic far more than anything Gen Singh has done in severing the cosy, comfortable, clubby relationship between the military and the civilian administration.

If what it takes to get us even talk about the colossal mess we are in is for him to shake the government and our civil society out of our stupor, more power to you, Gen Singh.




http://www.firstpost.com/india/gen-vk-singh-is-a-hero-for-fi ghting-the-enemy-within-259567.html
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Eeyana son incometax dept.
Maa flats ki vachinappudu horetthipoyyedhi.

He was son of governor. Jk kavatam tho extreme hitlist lo
highest zplus security undedi. Chala manchi officers both.
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'Cynical approach to tar my reputation': Army Chief strikes back on leaked letter

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Army Chief General VK Singh has today rejected allegations that he is responsible for the leak of a confidential letter written by him to the Prime Minister, warning that India's security is at risk because the army's equipment is obsolete. 'This is an outrage! Official communication with the PM, RM or anybody for that matter with the COAS (chief of army staff) is privileged information. The leaking of the letter should be treated as high treason. This cynical approach to tar my reputation has to stop. The source of the leak has to be found and dealt with ruthlessly," said the army chief today via a mailed statement.





Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/cynical-approach-to-tar-my -reputation-army-chief-strikes-back-on-leaked-letter-191312? pfrom=home-lateststories&cp

Is the effing govt game? find the source of the leak and crucify the person?
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Rajusk:

corrupt avvadaniki uniform addam raadu ani septhunna..anthe..



rajugaru .. sena wardi vesukunna vaallo lafangi gaallu untaru anedi .. 1950s lo jeeps purchase appude telisina matter .. but corrupt in army ends with very few people .. unlike civilians outside anedi naa feeling .. anyways .. evari understanding valladi ..
1576 battle of Halidghati fought between 80k Mughals troops & 20k Rajputs Mewari cavalry led by Maharana Pratap. End of the war, Mughals lost 45k soldiers and Maharana had 8k soldiers. Mughals fled from the war scene!

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so andaru army vaallu corrupt antara? story ardam ayyindi .. moral enti? relevance enti?




corrupt avvadaniki uniform addam raadu ani septhunna..anthe..
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so Army vallu vaalla Army vans teesukoni vachi..Diesel ammukone vallu vaadiki..



so andaru army vaallu corrupt antara? story ardam ayyindi .. moral enti? relevance enti?
1576 battle of Halidghati fought between 80k Mughals troops & 20k Rajputs Mewari cavalry led by Maharana Pratap. End of the war, Mughals lost 45k soldiers and Maharana had 8k soldiers. Mughals fled from the war scene!

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ekkada mee illu,lorries park ante AOC daggara?




near Oliphant bridge near Sec'bad Railway station...
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Rajusk:

neeku oka vishayam cheptha..this is around 1990-92 time frames


maa inti deggara oka lorry adda undedi..ante lorries akkada park chesukonevaadu...aa lorries owner..

so Army vallu vaalla Army vans teesukoni vachi..Diesel ammukone vallu vaadiki..

I have taken pictures myself and send it to Deccan Chronicle..of course aa letter print ayyindo ledo naaku telvadu..but this is something that I saw first hand..




ekkada mee illu,lorries park ante AOC daggara?
cherapakura chedevu.
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Tilak:

ante Army lo honest undaru ante .. was surprised




neeku oka vishayam cheptha..this is around 1990-92 time frames


maa inti deggara oka lorry adda undedi..ante lorries akkada park chesukonevaadu...aa lorries owner..

so Army vallu vaalla Army vans teesukoni vachi..Diesel ammukone vallu vaadiki..

I have taken pictures myself and send it to Deccan Chronicle..of course aa letter print ayyindo ledo naaku telvadu..but this is something that I saw first hand..
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normal gaa political connections or some push undande Brig nunchi paiki antha veezy kaadu antar..

endukante naa classmate ade seppetodu..he was Lt.Colonel..so 2 steps from Brigadier by the time he would have been 40/42..so manchi chance undi kada top position ki ante..appudu cheppindu ..





Indian army is very less corrupted but it is not an exception..
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Maj gaa retire ayyinru ante..non-NDA candidates ayyi undali..



true .. non NDA

ante Army lo honest undaru ante .. was surprised .. alage position ni batti ante .. mid range posts lo unna vallu kuda telusu ani cheppa anthe ..
1576 battle of Halidghati fought between 80k Mughals troops & 20k Rajputs Mewari cavalry led by Maharana Pratap. End of the war, Mughals lost 45k soldiers and Maharana had 8k soldiers. Mughals fled from the war scene!

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Tilak:

Major ga retired army people unnaru tiger friends lo




Maj gaa retire ayyinru ante..non-NDA candidates ayyi undali..

top positions mostly NDA vallake pothai..kooda
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l ga aa post lo aa chief post loki vellaka entho kontha edo okati untadi,




normal gaa political connections or some push undande Brig nunchi paiki antha veezy kaadu antar..

endukante naa classmate ade seppetodu..he was Lt.Colonel..so 2 steps from Brigadier by the time he would have been 40/42..so manchi chance undi kada top position ki ante..appudu cheppindu ..
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it also depends what department you are in army/navy/air force..



in Air Force .. he started as flying officer .. ended up at Air Marshal ..

alage .. Major ga retired army people unnaru tiger friends lo .. corruption ledu anatla .. Gen VK corrupt anadaniki .. min evidences aina undali ga ..

anyways .. kinda oka interview video petta .. chudandi .. and then comment on why he had to say .. what he had to say ..
1576 battle of Halidghati fought between 80k Mughals troops & 20k Rajputs Mewari cavalry led by Maharana Pratap. End of the war, Mughals lost 45k soldiers and Maharana had 8k soldiers. Mughals fled from the war scene!

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Tilak:

veedu/vaadu




ohh adi thappa,sare aayana ani replace chestha ok na..
cherapakura chedevu.
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nenu cheppindi manodu mottam army career antha thavvite telusthundi ani...



teesukoni vaallu undaru anna nammakam anukunta ..

oogindi nena .. meera? veedu/vaadu annadi meere gaa .. malli idem twist ?
1576 battle of Halidghati fought between 80k Mughals troops & 20k Rajputs Mewari cavalry led by Maharana Pratap. End of the war, Mughals lost 45k soldiers and Maharana had 8k soldiers. Mughals fled from the war scene!

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Tilak:

air marshal (2nd highest level) ga pani chesi retire aina vaallu unnaru .




it also depends what department you are in army/navy/air force..
cherapakura chedevu.
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Emc2:

unnadu babu,general K V krishna rao J&K governor ga unnadu chala rojulu,baaga control chesadu..

telugadu and sainikpuri secudenrabad resident..




Gen krishnarao is from srikakulam...ma coolmac thammudi chaathi 2 times peragaalai..we r number one icon veyyali...
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Tilak:

maa family lo .. air marshal (2nd highest level) ga pani chesi retire aina vaallu unnaru .. no one took a paisa from the army/airforce ..




babu my dad is army major..

nenu air marshals ,and brigs and andaru bribe teesukuntaru ani cheppadam ledu..

usual ga aa post lo aa chief post loki vellaka entho kontha edo okati untadi,u called that a bribe or contract commission etc..

nenu cheppindi manodu mottam army career antha thavvite telusthundi ani...

nuvvu inka oogadam aapu..
cherapakura chedevu.
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ante manodu emi inka vere bribes emi teesukoledu anukuntunnava.don't ask for proofs.



maa family lo .. air marshal (2nd highest level) ga pani chesi retire aina vaallu unnaru .. no one took a paisa from the army/airforce ..

Emc2:


veedu col to army chief ayina history motam thavvite telusthundi asalu manodu ekkadina bribe teesukunnada leka chala honest ani..



nuvvu tavvesaka post vesavu anukoledu annai ..
1576 battle of Halidghati fought between 80k Mughals troops & 20k Rajputs Mewari cavalry led by Maharana Pratap. End of the war, Mughals lost 45k soldiers and Maharana had 8k soldiers. Mughals fled from the war scene!

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Tilak:

but you are deciding as though you are judging in SC




okasari na posts clear ga chaduvu ardham avuthundi..

army chief ayi undi he shouldn't have made that comment..anduke cheppa aadi kadupu manta ani..

veedu col to army chief ayina history motam thavvite telusthundi asalu manodu ekkadina bribe teesukunnada leka chala honest ani..
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http://www.firstpost.com/india/does-leaked-gen-singh-letter- mean-foreign-spies-have-access-too-258732.html

http://www.dailypioneer.com/home/online-channel/top-story/53 204-sp-jd-u-want-army-chief-sacked-bjp-says-no.html

clearly .. who stands where is evident ..
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you are asking questions as if i am working in IB..



but you are deciding as though you are judging in SC :-)

Gandhiguevara:

Daridram ante idhe...VP Singh statement tho BJP kudaa vulikki padindhi...motham godavantha letter leak chesinolla meeda ne gaani actual corruption meeda kaadu



minimum chalanam unna evadaina ulikki padataadu .. corruption meeda concentration lekapovadam enti .. news follow avvu ..
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Daridram ante idhe...VP Singh statement tho BJP kudaa vulikki padindhi...motham godavantha letter leak chesinolla meeda ne gaani actual corruption meeda kaadu
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naku bribes ivvadani ki try chesaru ani he doesn't have to prove him self as a honest guy...

ante manodu emi inka vere bribes emi teesukoledu anukuntunnava.don't ask for proofs.

i know how it works army canteen system.

he wrote a letter to PM that is good,that is part of his job , adi bayata pettalsina avasaram emundi,interview lo evadina question veste he should have ignored or answered in different way..

and i am not judging him,but the way he is doing the things that is fishy.

you are asking questions as if i am working in IB..
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akkadiki manodu chala amayakudu annattu,something is fishy with him..



how do you know? what did you find fishy with him? explain it .. before you judge ..

Emc2:


idemari kitha kitha lu ante,incedent eppudu ayindi ani kadu, ippudu aa letter bayataki ravadaniki karanam enti ,



exactly .. March 12, 2012 na PM ki pampina letter .. March 28, 2012 ki bayatiki enduku vachindi? PM ki cherina letter .. bayata ki evaru leak chesi untaru?

btw .. Mar 26 ki .. naaku bribes offer icharu ani interview telecast ayyindi (thats bcoz .. the journo asked that particular question) .. so 2 days lo hadavidi ga .. national security ki sambandinchina letter enduku bayata pettaru? to cast aspersions on whom? motive enti?
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Tilak:

bribe ivvalani chusindi Aug 2010 lo .. while he was appointed in July 2010 .. retirement issue vachindi Nov 2011 lo .. so mee bodi gundu .. mokaali link .. pani cheyyadu ..

The Gen cant do time travel and go back !!!




idemari kitha kitha lu ante,incedent eppudu ayindi ani kadu, ippudu aa letter bayataki ravadaniki karanam enti ,

akkadiki manodu chala amayakudu annattu,something is fishy with him..
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apudu indian govt baaga aadukundi,manodi ki baga kalinattu undi..

i think anduke ee gola antha



bribe ivvalani chusindi Aug 2010 lo .. while he was appointed in July 2010 .. retirement issue vachindi Nov 2011 lo .. so mee bodi gundu .. mokaali link .. pani cheyyadu ..

The Gen cant do time travel and go back !!!
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asalu ee general ki problem enti ante monna one yr age problem vachindi.

apudu indian govt baaga aadukundi,manodi ki baga kalinattu undi..

i think anduke ee gola antha
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http://www.firstpost.com/politics/antony-and-vk-singh-must-e nd-the-conspiracy-of-silence-256398.html

Premature to accuse Gen VK yet .. he did not open his mouth in the last 2 days .. once he does .. we will know whats his reason for not pursuing .. but AK Antony did speak in parliament and say that he did get to know from Gen VK that bribe was offered .. if he could order a CBI probe now without a written complaint from Gen VK, why not earlier, is a question AKA should answer or resign and face trail for compromising serious security issues.
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Muddamandaram:

if the contents of the letter are true Goddd save my country.




true or false god save India,
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unnadu babu,general K V krishna rao J&K governor ga unnadu chala rojulu,baaga control chesadu..




karmai .. J&K ki ee politician ellanu ani unte .. eenni pattuku vachi untaru ... adhe ee ratanala seema oo aithe .. KV Krishna rao ki .. BV appa rao ki .. chance ee illa

ee politician class ni lepeyandi babu .. total failure ee class .. we need a diff breed and class to govern india
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Muddamandaram:

what is more alarming is not the leaks for me but if the contents of the letter are true Goddd save my country.



What is more alarming for me, is not just the contents of the letter, but attempts to do politics with the highest military officer of the land and an attempt to sling mud on his towering stature, while ignoring the task at hand - cover the lapses in security !
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what is more alarming is not the leaks for me but if the contents of the letter are true Goddd save my country.
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unnadu babu,general K V krishna rao J&K governor ga unnadu chala rojulu,baaga control chesadu..



KV Krishna Rao ee kaadu .. Gen SK Sinha .. inka chala mandi unnaru .. entha mandi unna .. Army lo nationalists ki kodavemundi?


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Anna is fraud, Ramdev is thug, Swamy is maverick, CAG is publicity hungry, COAS is frustrated. What is common in them- they oppose Congress.



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oka governor gani




unnadu babu,general K V krishna rao J&K governor ga unnadu chala rojulu,baaga control chesadu..

telugadu and sainikpuri secudenrabad resident..
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asala manaki army background ninchi .. oka governor gani .. oka president kani ledu .. attanti nominate posts anni .. politics lo retire ayi .. v'lu jari ... kallu kuda kanpadani .. politicians kosam vechi untayi .. thu deenemma system ni d'ka




pakka desam lo dayadul ni choosi mana politicians ki tension emo..ae roju coup jarigi..andarni pack chesi Andaman pampistharani..
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asala manaki army background ninchi .. oka governor gani .. oka president kani ledu .. attanti nominate posts anni .. politics lo retire ayi .. v'lu jari ... kallu kuda kanpadani .. politicians kosam vechi untayi .. thu deenemma system ni d'ka
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Laloo says Gen VKSingh wants to contest election.People will be happy that such persons will join politics. What laloo is afraid of?




By Dr. Manish Kumar ..
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Personally I like both AK Anthony and VK.



Its not about your/mine personal like ..

It is about trust .. about who safeguards the country .. I trust Gen VK Singh and not an old assole politician ..
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Kamalai

Personally I like both AK Anthony and VK.

PMO seems to be the culprit.

They dont want the corruption in the biggest budget spending to be curtailed.

Paradox of Indian politics
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Gen VK Singh vs AK Antony
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India's security might be at risk: VK Singh


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NEW DELHI: Army Chief General VK Singh had raised the sorry state of infrastructure in the armed forces in the country in a letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh dated March 12. General Singh had written that the Army's tank regiments lack ammunition to defeat the enemy, the air defence is almost obsolete and the infantry is falling short of critical weapons.

He underlined that the country's security might be at stake due to the critical shortage of ammunition. The letter, sent to the Prime Minister's Office, had asked Manmohan Singh to 'pass suitable directions to enhance the preparedness of the Army'. The explosive letter comes amidst claims made by the Army Chief that he was offered bribe to clear a deal for sub-standard vehicles in the Army.

General Singh wrote that the Army's entire tank fleet was devoid of critical ammunition to defeat enemy tanks. He also added that the air defence was '97 per cent obsolete and it doesn't give the deemed confidence to protect from the air', the infantry had 'deficiencies of crew served weapon' and lacks 'night fighting' capabilities and that the Elite Special Forces were 'woefully short of essential weapons'.

General Singh also pointed out that the 'hollowness' in the system is a manifestation of the procedures and processing time for procurements as well as legal impediments by vendors.

General Singh also mentioned that the work quality was poor and there was a 'lack of urgency at all levels' on matters of national security.

This is a worry for General Singh as he was entrusted with preparing a comprehensive transformation study to modernise the Army some years ago. As the GOC-in-C (Eastern Command), Singh, then a lieutenant general, had prepared a detailed report on modernising the force.

General Singh feels such shortcomings erode the Army's preparedness considering two "inimical neighbours" and the "reality of large land borders".

Demanding explanation from the government on the letter, Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) leader Balbir Punj said, "The government must clarify about this letter. The government must convince the people of this country that they have sufficient ammunition."

Speaking on the letter in the Rajya Sabha on Wednesday, Defence Minister AK Antony said, "Regarding the letter written by the Army Chief to the Prime Minister, I am aware of that letter. The government will respond to it at an appropriate time."

Meanwhile, raising questions on the Army Chief's conduct, JD(U) leader Shivanand Tiwari said, "It's a matter of concern. The fact that he has written to the PM shows he is trying to clarify his position. The Army Chief's conduct is now doubtful. It seems that he is lying. Now that he has got involved in the controversy he is trying to pass the buck."

Government sources said the letter can be seen as a breach of protocol. "As the Army Chief he should have kept it limited to the Defence Minister, there was no need to drag it to the PMO. This can be seen as breach of protocol," sources said.

Meanwhile, the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has begun its investigations into the bribery allegations. The agency is expected to meet General Singh when he returns from an official tour in Srinagar on Friday. A tape of the alleged incident whose veracity is to be determined is currently with the agency.

The CBI as part of its probe is also expected to look into all aspects of the Tatra Vectra deal as part of the investigation including its complex shareholding pattern. The MoD is expected to hand over documents in this regard later this week.




Shame on the govt, who leaked a "top-secret" marked letter to media, to give the Army chief a bad name ..

If you guys have any notion/perception against the army chief .. you should have dealt with it in private. The man Gen VK Singh, is a man of integrity and honor, who has put the country above anything else and you lazy old grizzlers have the guts to point a finger ???

This is the interview of the chief .. just watch it and decide for yourself .. who is the assole who is politicking with him .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnFyo9GH1ro&context=C4f68bf0A DvjVQa1PpcFNgB7PisWSsm46iC1JFOhQGtkfmi2SUGH0=
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NEW DELHI: Army Chief General VK Singh had raised the sorry state of infrastructure in the armed forces in the country in a letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh dated March 12. General Singh had written that the Army's tank regiments lack ammunition to defeat the enemy, the air defence is almost obsolete and the infantry is falling short of critical weapons.

He underlined that the country's security might be at stake due to the critical shortage of ammunition. The letter, sent to the Prime Minister's Office, had asked Manmohan Singh to 'pass suitable directions to enhance the preparedness of the Army'. The explosive letter comes amidst claims made by the Army Chief that he was offered bribe to clear a deal for sub-standard vehicles in the Army.

General Singh wrote that the Army's entire tank fleet was devoid of critical ammunition to defeat enemy tanks. He also added that the air defence was '97 per cent obsolete and it doesn't give the deemed confidence to protect from the air', the infantry had 'deficiencies of crew served weapon' and lacks 'night fighting' capabilities and that the Elite Special Forces were 'woefully short of essential weapons'.

General Singh also pointed out that the 'hollowness' in the system is a manifestation of the procedures and processing time for procurements as well as legal impediments by vendors.

General Singh also mentioned that the work quality was poor and there was a 'lack of urgency at all levels' on matters of national security.

This is a worry for General Singh as he was entrusted with preparing a comprehensive transformation study to modernise the Army some years ago. As the GOC-in-C (Eastern Command), Singh, then a lieutenant general, had prepared a detailed report on modernising the force.

General Singh feels such shortcomings erode the Army's preparedness considering two "inimical neighbours" and the "reality of large land borders".

Demanding explanation from the government on the letter, Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) leader Balbir Punj said, "The government must clarify about this letter. The government must convince the people of this country that they have sufficient ammunition."

Speaking on the letter in the Rajya Sabha on Wednesday, Defence Minister AK Antony said, "Regarding the letter written by the Army Chief to the Prime Minister, I am aware of that letter. The government will respond to it at an appropriate time."

Meanwhile, raising questions on the Army Chief's conduct, JD(U) leader Shivanand Tiwari said, "It's a matter of concern. The fact that he has written to the PM shows he is trying to clarify his position. The Army Chief's conduct is now doubtful. It seems that he is lying. Now that he has got involved in the controversy he is trying to pass the buck."

Government sources said the letter can be seen as a breach of protocol. "As the Army Chief he should have kept it limited to the Defence Minister, there was no need to drag it to the PMO. This can be seen as breach of protocol," sources said.

Meanwhile, the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has begun its investigations into the bribery allegations. The agency is expected to meet General Singh when he returns from an official tour in Srinagar on Friday. A tape of the alleged incident whose veracity is to be determined is currently with the agency.

The CBI as part of its probe is also expected to look into all aspects of the Tatra Vectra deal as part of the investigation including its complex shareholding pattern. The MoD is expected to hand over documents in this regard later this week.




Shame on the govt, who leaked a "top-secret" marked letter to media, to give the Army chief a bad name ..

If you guys have any notion/perception against the army chief .. you should have dealt with it in private. The man Gen VK Singh, is a man of integrity and honor, who has put the country above anything else and you lazy old grizzlers have the guts to point a finger ???

This is the interview of the chief .. just watch it and decide for yourself .. who is the assole who can do politicking with him .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnFyo9GH1ro&context=C4f68bf0A DvjVQa1PpcFNgB7PisWSsm46iC1JFOhQGtkfmi2SUGH0=
1576 battle of Halidghati fought between 80k Mughals troops & 20k Rajputs Mewari cavalry led by Maharana Pratap. End of the war, Mughals lost 45k soldiers and Maharana had 8k soldiers. Mughals fled from the war scene!

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/171407.html?1332602643
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