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Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9466 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 05:21 pm: |
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Vjavasi:see that's the disease of modern economy......recognition means money.....
business chesedi money kosam kaka inkenduku...I think you are confusing between business and charity. Vjavasi:progress means destroying and stamping others.
Competition undakunda control cheyatam stamping kaada? Pakka village lo competition allow cheste danni stamping anaru, nobody is stopping anybody from competing. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1070 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:46 pm: |
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Jackjill:Nen antha pedda medhavini kaadu
ok .. nenu moosukunta .. carry on http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7173 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:46 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:jack nenu apples, oranges compare seyyadam ledu kashmiri apple ni, american apple ni compare settunna. sare. nee theory prakaram teeskonte why US/europeans cry on BRIC? outsoaurcing valla jobs potunnayani. ikkada competetive pricing paniki raada
rakalu gaa undhi maasteru ee argument.. Asalu nenu west side ekkada teesukunna, In Free market 1) Tariffs 2) Quotas 3) Voluntary export restraints 4) Export Subsidies 5) Donmestic Content provisions 6) Capital & Labor market restrictions and so are price distorters.. No doubt about it, let it be west or east. Naa economics ki mee patriotism ki kudaradhu le kaani.. meeru venjoy cheyyandi  |
   
Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 81 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:44 pm: |
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jack patritism ki deeniki sambandham enti? i dont know abt others. but na varaku nenu subject gurinci matladutunna. meeru textbook subject matladutunnaru. way of thinking dipperent. with due respect no offence. |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7172 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:39 pm: |
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Tilak:kinda true .. comparing the scale and model of global economies vis-a-vis local economies .. kaani behavorial aspects of humans daggara global economies fail avutunnayi anukunta?
Nen antha pedda medhavini kaadu,ekkada fail avutunnayo naaki telvad edho subject disco anukoni thread loki vacha, patriotic kurrolu andaru naatho chedugu aadukunnar,inka nen jump  |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5434 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:38 pm: |
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konchem bharat tantra ki greek tantra ki chinese tantra ki ancient times lo difference ento cheptaara naa uddesam lo mass transit and communications leni time lo prapancham mottam division of power and labor konchem atu itu gaa okela undhi if the king is good people are lucky or else they are screwed to India's credit we didn't have many cases of intolerant kings and it all changed after foreign invasions started so yes the Hindu culture succeeded in that regard. the kings had code, honor, wisdom etc but to claim the success of local economies as a well thought out master plan is nothing but saffron back scratching "I predict future happiness of people if they can prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people under the pretence of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson |
   
Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 80 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:35 pm: |
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jack nenu apples, oranges compare seyyadam ledu kashmiri apple ni, american apple ni compare settunna. sare. nee theory prakaram teeskonte why US/europeans cry on BRIC? outsoaurcing valla jobs potunnayani. ikkada competetive pricing paniki raada  |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1065 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:33 pm: |
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Jackjill: then atleast agree the inefficiency in local economy to compete the price levels at a given quality
kinda true .. comparing the scale and model of global economies vis-a-vis local economies .. kaani behavorial aspects of humans daggara global economies fail avutunnayi anukunta? http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7171 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:26 pm: |
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Tilak:if an orange can replace apple for a fruit and a plastic one replaces a wooden one for a toy .. wats wrong in comparing the net results?
then atleast agree the inefficiency in local economy to compete the price levels at a given quality |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1062 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:26 pm: |
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Jackjill: ichina link lo disadvantages gurinchi sadivaava
foorti ga sadavaled .. kaani .. i stand corrected .. iffud evvad kuda pollow avvatledata kada .. i thought some countries still do! http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7169 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:23 pm: |
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Tilak:mari vere desala currency .. gold standards follow avvakapothe .. same US markets lo .. aa currency devaluate chestaru enduku?
evadu chesaadu devalue, pegged countries chesukuntaayi to keep their exports competitive, adhi America tappu etla avtuadhi
Tilak:ya .. gold standard enduku undaali anedi gud question .. i guess .. the answer lies here ..
ichina link lo disadvantages gurinchi sadivaava |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1060 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:22 pm: |
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Jackjill: tala toka leni ee argument ki answer evvad seyyaledu.. please compare apples to apples, Wooden bommala tho wooden bommalani.. Plastic bommalatho plastic bommalani compare cheyyi..
if an orange can replace apple for a fruit and a plastic one replaces a wooden one for a toy .. wats wrong in comparing the net results? http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7168 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:19 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:wrong.. lets take a toy.. idivariki wood tho sesevallu. ippudu china plastic bommalu. colors colrs plus cheap. commonman ki plastic side effects akakrledu. cheap ga undani kontadu. dabu unnodu imported wood di kontadu. india lo bommalu sesevadu em seyyali?
tala toka leni ee argument ki answer evvad seyyaledu.. please compare apples to apples, Wooden bommala tho wooden bommalani.. Plastic bommalatho plastic bommalani compare cheyyi.. economics lo patriotism mix chesi maaku zumba dance soopistunnav
Masala_dosa:simple example.. china dumps lot of goods in india. do u think all of them are of better quality?
Price discrepancy can only be discussed if Goods of similar quality are compared |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1058 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:18 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:india lo bommalu sesevadu em seyyali?
plastic bommalu kone valla pillalki vaidyam cheyyali .. ledante compounder ga maarali .. Capitalism 101  http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 78 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:15 pm: |
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quote:US was the only counrty with stable financial market
ues baga stable {lol2}. evry 15-20 yrs ki oka recession. war economy meeda batikestundi US |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1057 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:15 pm: |
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Jackjill: Inkaa basics ki vellali ante, asalu Gold anedhi standard endhuku undaali ani aduguthaa
mari vere desala currency .. gold standards follow avvakapothe .. same US markets lo .. aa currency devaluate chestaru enduku? ya .. gold standard enduku undaali anedi gud question .. i guess .. the answer lies here .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7167 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:14 pm: |
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Tilak:Portugese kurrol Goa lo land ayye rojuki .. trip kosam Goa ki vachara? "India" ni colonize cheyyadaniki vachara?
india ante europe laaga, gulf laaga oka area anthe, adhi oka country ani decide ayyi vacharu antaava?? |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9239 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:13 pm: |
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Indiarocks: recognition ante danda vesi sanmanam kaadu. Recognition in money. Y deserves to compete and earn more if he can do a better job. This is how individuals progress.
see that's the disease of modern economy......recognition means money.....progress means destroying and stamping others....i don't see any progress when three-uarter world population is starving |
   
Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 77 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:12 pm: |
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quote:if the price and quality is not equilibrium demand goes down eventually
wrong.. lets take a toy.. idivariki wood tho sesevallu. ippudu china plastic bommalu. colors colrs plus cheap. commonman ki plastic side effects akakrledu. cheap ga undani kontadu. dabu unnodu imported wood di kontadu. india lo bommalu sesevadu em seyyali? |
   
Methhanithodugu
Hero Username: Methhanithodugu
Post Number: 15968 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 117.195.215.52
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:12 pm: |
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sorry ilanti thoughts valla we go no where its not happening .. there is no Contest in Have VS Have Nots Nobody controls Macro Economics per say but top 6 Super Powers - China ,USA ,Germany,Brit,Saudi,Japan might Golden Spoon |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7164 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:11 pm: |
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Tilak:gold standard kuda leni dollar ni use chese US .. most stable financial market ela ayyindi?
market stable gaa undataniki gold standard endhuku? Gold has been and is just a hedge of inflation where as US market is concerned.. Inkaa basics ki vellali ante, asalu Gold anedhi standard endhuku undaali ani aduguthaa  |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1055 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:10 pm: |
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Jackjill: 1800 ku mundhu asalu india ne ledhu.. ee vichitramaina line of argument endhi asalu
Portugese kurrol Goa lo land ayye rojuki .. trip kosam Goa ki vachara? "India" ni colonize cheyyadaniki vachara? http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7162 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:08 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:idi last 100-150 yrs katha. naku telsi 1800 varaku manam imports seinattu kaani, pedda karuvu unattu kaani history lo ekkda sadava ledu
1800 ku mundhu asalu india ne ledhu.. ee vichitramaina line of argument endhi asalu British odu lekapothe.. we were 250 princely states, aina aa time lo good consumed ki ippatiki Consumption ki asala link enti asalu |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9465 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:07 pm: |
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Vjavasi:evado okadi recognition kosam vere vaadu chavala...if that guy want recognition let him teach the other guy about his better farming practices....or he can sell his quality product by paying extra tax in village X
recognition ante danda vesi sanmanam kaadu. Recognition in money. Y deserves to compete and earn more if he can do a better job. This is how individuals progress. X better farming chesi Y village lo ammithene, Y gadiki kooda improve audamu ani inka kastapadedi. You cannot apply this to India Vs foreign countries coz India suppressed its exports for a long time, and foreign countries did not. Instead India crushed its farmer by importing with subsidy. Bottom line Indian Govts so far worked for the foreign farmer. So not fair to make everything free right away. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1054 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:07 pm: |
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Jackjill: because US was the only counrty with stable financial markets, most countries come to wall st for soveriegn debt denominated in USD, evaru evarini force chesaar
gold standard kuda leni dollar ni use chese US .. most stable financial market ela ayyindi?  http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1052 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:06 pm: |
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Indiarocks:before 1800 janalu eddu bandi meeda vellevallu. Ippudu vellagalara?
thats not good reasoning .. 1800 ki mundu famines/shortage of food enduku ledu annadi point .. aa taravata evari laabham kosam ippudu unna system ni design/evolve chesaru annadi most important point .. http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7161 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:05 pm: |
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Masala_dosa: . em USD lo enduku invest seyyalanukonnaru? they are forced to invest
because US was the only counrty with stable financial markets, most countries come to wall st for soveriegn debt denominated in USD, evaru evarini force chesaar |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9238 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:05 pm: |
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Indiarocks:before 1800 janalu eddu bandi meeda vellevallu. Ippudu vellagalara?
ippudu chala mandi edla bandla meedha veltunnaru.....aina daaniki deeniki sambandham enti.....appudu tinnaru ani ippudu tindi tinatam manestaara....basic necessities eppudu okkate manava samajaniki |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1051 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 101.63.137.95
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:03 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:idi last 100-150 yrs katha. naku telsi 1800 varaku manam imports seinattu kaani, pedda karuvu unattu kaani history lo ekkda sadava ledu
kummesaav .. nee voice naaku nachindi .. Indiarocks: This is totally wrong. Before green revolution India was importing food. What a shame for a country with vast agri resources. After green revolution we got a lot better, but we started using pesticides etc. West Indian produce import cheskoru annadi totally false. It is our Govt that imposes export restrictions. However we do need another organic green revolution.
first thing .. India lo shortage of food .. was a new thing in the last 100-150 years .. organic green revolution okkate saripodu .. larger picture lo .. tokkalo World Bank deciding how water needs to charged in Tenali etc kuda cut cheyyali .. http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7160 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:03 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:simple example.. china dumps lot of goods in india. do u think all of them are of better quality?
better price !! if the price and quality is not equilibrium demand goes down eventually |
   
Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 75 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:02 pm: |
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indiarocks annai.. simple example.. china dumps lot of goods in india. do u think all of them are of better quality? |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9463 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:01 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:idi last 100-150 yrs katha. naku telsi 1800 varaku manam imports seinattu kaani, pedda karuvu unattu kaani history lo ekkda sadava ledu
before 1800 janalu eddu bandi meeda vellevallu. Ippudu vellagalara? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7159 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 03:00 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:naaku derivatives ki, casino lo games ki pedda difference anipinchadam ledu
Asalu neeku derivatives tho pani enti? |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9237 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:57 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Guys in village X may adopt better farming practices and produce better quality product. If they cannot sell it in village Y where is the recognition,
evado okadi recognition kosam vere vaadu chavala...if that guy want recognition let him teach the other guy about his better farming practices....or he can sell his quality product by paying extra tax in village X |
   
Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 74 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:55 pm: |
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quote:Before green revolution India was importing food.
idi last 100-150 yrs katha. naku telsi 1800 varaku manam imports seinattu kaani, pedda karuvu unattu kaani history lo ekkda sadava ledu |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9462 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:53 pm: |
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Vjavasi:nee daggara lenivi import chesuko....vunnavi enduku chesukovali
Indiarocks:Guys in village X may adopt better farming practices and produce better quality product. If they cannot sell it in village Y where is the recognition, and reward for doing a better job? At the same time why should village X consumers suffer?
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 73 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:52 pm: |
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quote:vaal right, mari Investment bank ki endhuku pani sesio
naaku tappedo, right edo telsu. kani dani meeda fight sesenta scene illio. potta kuti kosam koti vidyalu. naaku derivatives ki, casino lo games ki pedda difference anipinchadam ledu |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9236 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:52 pm: |
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Indiarocks:What you are saying makes sense for the country albeit in a few sectors that are our strength. Like agriculture. Maree village to village local economy ante kastam.
enduku kstam.....it doesn't makes sense if JP talks about decentralization without villages having economic autonomy |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9461 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:52 pm: |
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Vjavasi:Let them grow basmati in US....or let them import our surpluses if we have any....again local economy doesn't mean ban on exports & imports but managing them to protect local economy & needs of local population
Enti, Indian type soil US lo meeru create chestara? Indian climate create chestara?
Masala_dosa:take example of agri. manam natural cultivati sesevallam. west effect valla eruvulu etc vadatam modalu pettam ippudu mana productivity increase ayindi but mana products vallu import seskoru.
This is totally wrong. Before green revolution India was importing food. What a shame for a country with vast agri resources. After green revolution we got a lot better, but we started using pesticides etc. West Indian produce import cheskoru annadi totally false. It is our Govt that imposes export restrictions. However we do need another organic green revolution. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 72 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:49 pm: |
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quote:most of the members wanted USD so that they could invest in US financial markets
. em USD lo enduku invest seyyalanukonnaru? they are forced to invest |
   
Jackjill
Side Hero Username: Jackjill
Post Number: 7154 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:49 pm: |
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Masala_dosa:annai.. nuvvu system gurinchi septunnav. nenu systeme tappu antunna.
vaal right, mari Investment bank ki endhuku pani sesio  |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9235 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:48 pm: |
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Indiarocks:If you import it destroys the harmony antaru, malli no ban on imports and exports antaru, idem gola babu.
nee daggara lenivi import chesuko....vunnavi enduku chesukovali |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 9459 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:46 pm: |
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Tilak:agree with you on this .
 The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Masala_dosa
Junior Artist Username: Masala_dosa
Post Number: 71 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 77.42.244.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:46 pm: |
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quote:indiarocks,Guys in village X may adopt better farming practices and produce better quality product.
annai real life lo kastam . take example of agri. manam natural cultivati sesevallam. west effect valla eruvulu etc vadatam modalu pettam ippudu mana productivity increase ayindi but mana products vallu import seskoru. enduku ante pestisides. plus manalni subsidies ivvaniyaru whr as formers in developed countries get subsidies. badic ga desam lo agri % taggutundi. see nxt 50 yrs lo manam food import sekovali. do u think a nation can survive on services? kaani mana ores kavali. natural resources kavali. selective ignoring. type. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 9234 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:45 pm: |
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Indiarocks: US lo thousands of Indian descent citizens ki basmati rice basic necessity ye. Vallu aakali tho chachipovala?
Let them grow basmati in US....or let them import our surpluses if we have any....again local economy doesn't mean ban on exports & imports but managing them to protect local economy & needs of local population |
   
Tilak
Comedian Username: Tilak
Post Number: 1050 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 115.184.4.47
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 02:45 pm: |
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Indiarocks: What you are saying makes sense for the country albeit in a few sectors that are our strength. Like agriculture. Maree village to village local economy ante kastam.
agree with you on this .. national level lo economies ni plan/operate cheste chaalu .. global level lo .. where no one has control, ki vadileyyakunda .. http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
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Jackjill: Though OPEC is an oligopoly, most of the members wanted USD so that they could invest in US financial markets and so USD became the reserve country as oil is the most common commodity which can directly and indirectly influence any country's Commodity Price index.
anakudadu kaani .. prapancham lo entha mandi gorrelu unnaro appatlo .. lol http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
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Vjavasi:local economy doesn't mean ban on imports or exports
If you import it destroys the harmony antaru, malli no ban on imports and exports antaru, idem gola babu. What you are saying makes sense for the country albeit in a few sectors that are our strength. Like agriculture. Maree village to village local economy ante kastam. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Tilak
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Masala_dosa: suppose, village X can produce a good then dont import just bcoz its cheaper in village Y. if u import then it destorys the hormony. ppl who make tht good in village X can survive. then they go for other job. after soemtime due to monopoly village Y increases costs or transport cost increase. now village X suffers
so monopoly ni curb cheyyadaniki additional governance unte chaala? banning imports from Y to X ki kuda additional governance create cheyyali anukunta .. inni restrictions unnappudu freedom ki ardham emundi? (these are not my views .. just questions) http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
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Tilak:as USD is the world currency due to Bretton Woods!!! anthena?
Do you mean "Reserve Currency"? upto an extent. Another major reason most of the currencies want to Peg aginst USD is because Oil is denominated in USD. Though OPEC is an oligopoly, most of the members wanted USD so that they could invest in US financial markets and so USD became the reserve country as oil is the most common commodity which can directly and indirectly influence any country's Commodity Price index. |
   
Masala_dosa
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/quote{Nuvvu cheppe diasparity unappudu outsourcing baane ayyindhi kada, we can call that import/export. Don't get your point.} outsourcing , s/w % enta mana economy lo. jeetalu perigindi emplyed ki. lets take a mine worker. west lo vadiki entha istaru? india/africa lo enta istaru |
   
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Masala_dosa:i think vja did not mean complt ban of basic necessities suppose, village X can produce a good then dont import just bcoz its cheaper in village Y. if u import then it destorys the hormony. ppl who make tht good in village X can survive. then they go for other job. after soemtime due to monopoly village Y increases costs or transport cost increase. now village X suffers
perfect ga cheppav bro...naa manasulo vunnadhi thanks Indiarocks local economy doesn't mean ban on imports or exports |
   
Masala_dosa
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/author{jackjill,For given inflation in india and the expected return for the given risk, country's currency is priced. BTW, INR is a managed float against USD, india central bank adjusts their reserves of the currency based on the exchange rate. } annai.. nuvvu system gurinchi septunnav. nenu systeme tappu antunna. |
   
Indiarocks
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Masala_dosa:suppose, village X can produce a good then dont import just bcoz its cheaper in village Y. if u import then it destorys the hormony.
Guys in village X may adopt better farming practices and produce better quality product. If they cannot sell it in village Y where is the recognition, and reward for doing a better job? At the same time why should village X consumers suffer? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Vjavasi
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Jackjill: Vjavasi: what if we have an economy that is mostly self-employed with local decentralized production of consumer goods & services for the local market of optimum size.....can supply/demand balance with least government interference? Mukka ardham ayithe nee chepputho kottu.. Andhuke example teesuko saami annadhi, nee language and naa language chaala different gaa untadhi
my point is decentralization of production of basic items that has no big technological reuirements can address the larger unemployment issue.....there is no need for artificial maintainence of supply and demand by govt if the economy is local and at optimum level to support different activities |
   
Tilak
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Jackjill:INR is a managed float against USD
as USD is the world currency due to Bretton Woods!!! anthena? http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Jackjill
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Masala_dosa:indya lo okadu papam 8-10 hrs enda lo kastapaduta 2-4$ . eur/US lo same paniki around 50-100$. actual work same. pay dipperent. again US cry on our subsidies. US can give subsidies. balavatulade rajyam . ippadu undi economics kadu. oka midhya prapancham. sinnappudu manam adukune bank game type. but ikkada rules balavatulaki anukulam ga marutuntayi ante
Long Term equilibrium choostunnam kada, india lo salaries increase ayinayi.. I don't get your argument Nuvvu cheppe diasparity unappudu outsourcing baane ayyindhi kada, we can call that import/export. Don't get your point. |
   
Tilak
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Chitti_v2:72 virgins waiting with 70 types of lingerie each
annesi types enduku chitti .. okati chaalu gaa .. http://hindu-tolerance.blogspot.in/ |
   
Masala_dosa
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i think vja did not mean complt ban of basic necessities suppose, village X can produce a good then dont import just bcoz its cheaper in village Y. if u import then it destorys the hormony. ppl who make tht good in village X can survive. then they go for other job. after soemtime due to monopoly village Y increases costs or transport cost increase. now village X suffers |
   
Jackjill
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Masala_dosa:jack annai.. nenu definitions theory adagaledu. nenu okadni sampi daniki dharmarakshna ante adi science/art avvadu. enduku aa teda ani adugutunna
For given inflation in india and the expected return for the given risk, country's currency is priced. BTW, INR is a managed float against USD, india central bank adjusts their reserves of the currency based on the exchange rate.
Masala_dosa:btw. me too work for invstment bank
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Indiarocks
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Vjavasi:no imports for basic necessities
I guess there is a problem with the way you are putting this. Manaki indegenous gaa produce cheyagala capability undi, mana strength unna field aithe Yes imports akkarledu. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks
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Vjavasi:no imports for basic necessities
US lo thousands of Indian descent citizens ki basmati rice basic necessity ye. Vallu aakali tho chachipovala? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Vjavasi
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Getafix:gandhi gorini oppose chestahru but gandhian economics are correct antar..how? etla?
Gandhian economics is not his original idea.....he just restated the economic structure of india before british colonization....i am not opposed to gandhi |
   
Masala_dosa
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quote:Purchase Power Parity
jack annai.. nenu definitions theory adagaledu. nenu okadni sampi daniki dharmarakshna ante adi science/art avvadu. enduku aa teda ani adugutunna btw. me too work for invstment bank |
   
Vjavasi
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Indiarocks:I guess nobody here understands what you mean by self sufficient. You mean no need for imports?
no imports for basic necessities |
   
Kish
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Chitti_v2:72 virgins waiting with 70 types of lingerie each
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Vjavasi:can we have just simple no interest giving people banks that help each other in need?.
vasesh, islam ki converting ayipo....bonus gaa paina 72 virgins waiting with 70 types of lingerie each |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 9228 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
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Jackjill:neeku dandam edatha nee stand eto seppu, I thought you support right wing, paina statement soosthe Leftist laaga undhi
i am neither rightist nor leftist......just trying to get to the bottom of maze created in the name of modern economics |
   
Indiarocks
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Vjavasi:local economy doesn't mean ban on imports and exports in excahnge for other goods like computers or any other items in demand
Vjavasi:what if in the next decade we develop renewable energy and we become independent of oil....can indian economy become self-sufficient?
Chala confusing gaa undi. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Jackjill
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Masala_dosa:100 % agree with you. All these GDP, inflation, interest rate are number games. naaku eppatiki ardham kani prasna okkate why 1$=50Rs
That is what is called Purchase Power Parity. Friday roju pedthaaru endhi vayya gisvanti discussions meeru |
   
Vjavasi
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Indiarocks:Vjavasi: computer kaavali ante who stops him from work harder and export his extra produce Vjavasi: if the economy is local he will get his share.....he doesn't need to deplete his soil with 3 crops a year working like a ass
you didn't get my point.....local economy doesn't mean ban on imports and exports in excahnge for other goods like computers or any other items in demand |
   
Indiarocks
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Vjavasi:atleast food and other basic consumer goods & services local production is the most efficient and cost effective
Anni chotla anni pandali kada? Going by ur logic Swiss guys should not eat any sea shrimp coz they don't have a sea coast. Indians in AP should not eat any basmati, or sonamasuri rice. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Jackjill
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Vjavasi:what if in the next decade we develop renewable energy and we become independent of oil....can indian economy become self-sufficient?
Oil was just an example. Indian imports does not stop there, India is currently a Net importer. We lack infrastructure to produce goods economically from the raw materials we export. Iron ore was exported to china, why ? Ane question ki answer telusukunte neeku ardham avutundhi Vjavasi:what if we have an economy that is mostly self-employed with local decentralized production of consumer goods & services for the local market of optimum size.....can supply/demand balance with least government interference?
Mukka ardham ayithe nee chepputho kottu.. Andhuke example teesuko saami annadhi, nee language and naa language chaala different gaa untadhi |
   
Vjavasi
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Okatelugodu: Economically it makes sense to produce goods where efficiencies(resources - both human and natural) exist. Prathidi local ga produce cheyyali ante it could be expensive or not feasible at all
cost is a relative notional parameter if economy is controlled locally.....atleast food and other basic consumer goods & services local production is the most efficient and cost effective |
   
Masala_dosa
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asala so called developed countries natural resource % entha world tho compare seskunte? vati dabbu po they wantwer entha? see vallu start sesina game ni kuda vallu fair ga adaru. whnevr thy chnge rules |
   
Indiarocks
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Vjavasi:what if in the next decade we develop renewable energy and we become independent of oil....can indian economy become self-sufficient?
I guess nobody here understands what you mean by self sufficient. You mean no need for imports? The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Masala_dosa
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quote:vjavasi
100 % agree with you. All these GDP, inflation, interest rate are number games. naaku eppatiki ardham kani prasna okkate why 1$=50Rs indya lo okadu papam 8-10 hrs enda lo kastapaduta 2-4$ . eur/US lo same paniki around 50-100$. actual work same. pay dipperent. again US cry on our subsidies. US can give subsidies. balavatulade rajyam . ippadu undi economics kadu. oka midhya prapancham. sinnappudu manam adukune bank game type. but ikkada rules balavatulaki anukulam ga marutuntayi ante |
   
Vjavasi
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Jackjill: It does not make sense for us to compare pre-colonization to current economy, as both economies of scale and goods consumed at these times differ significantly. Ex : Oil, adhi lekapothe aagipotadhi.. aina Imports aapeddama??
what if in the next decade we develop renewable energy and we become independent of oil....can indian economy become self-sufficient? \quoteauthor {Jackjill,On the other hand, I agree that demand forecast is very important and demand should drive production and therefore the price. But in a country such as ours, where blaming GOVT is very easy, unless the GOVT steps into Price control and artificially keep the Supply/Demand at equilibrium, economy may face high rates of unemployment in short term, which can have ripple effect on the economy.} what if we have an economy that is mostly self-employed with local decentralized production of consumer goods & services for the local market of optimum size.....can supply/demand balance with least government interference? |
   
Getafix
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Vjavasi:they can produce only on orders...if markets are local they will have an idea of demand......why can't there be local production and local consumption for basic needs?
gandhi gorini oppose chestahru but gandhian economics are correct antar..how? etla? |
   
Indiarocks
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Vjavasi:can you tell me what percent of world population have all three of these in this most progressive world economy
Progressive world economy ki, population lo 100% prosperous gaa undataniki relation ledu. Economy on the whole can be progressive, but there can be a huge disparity among the rich and poor. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Jackjill
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Vjavasi:can you tell me what percent of world population have all three of these in this most progressive world economy
neeku dandam edatha nee stand eto seppu, I thought you support right wing, paina statement soosthe Leftist laaga undhi |
   
Indiarocks
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Vjavasi:computer kaavali ante who stops him from work harder and export his extra produce
Vjavasi:if the economy is local he will get his share.....he doesn't need to deplete his soil with 3 crops a year working like a ass
 The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Vjavasi
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Indiarocks:Mee logic aithe manishi koodu, gudda, illu unte chalu ani aasalani champukuni alage undali.
can you tell me what percent of world population have all three of these in this most progressive world economy |
   
Jackjill
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Okatelugodu:Economically it makes sense to produce goods where efficiencies(resources - both human and natural) exist. Prathidi local ga produce cheyyali ante it could be expensive or not feasible at all
That is what is called "Law of Comparative Advantage" |
   
Vjavasi
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Indiarocks: Enduku nastapodu. Let us say a farmer wants to buy a computer and have internet so that he can get market information. Now, he cannot get a computer from the local economy. So the farmer has to buy an imported product. To compensate for this he has to export. And his strength is the climate, and geography that can give 3crops a year. Hence he has to play with them.
computer kaavali ante who stops him from work harder and export his extra produce |
   
Okatelugodu
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Vjavasi:why can't there be local production and local consumption for basic needs?
Economically it makes sense to produce goods where efficiencies(resources - both human and natural) exist. Prathidi local ga produce cheyyali ante it could be expensive or not feasible at all |
   
Jackjill
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Vjavasi:In the past before colonization indian economy was decentralized and self-sufficient in basic needs....for exports get orders.....for imports give orders.......why should there be excess production.....even in the current economy many items are produced on orders....estimation of demand is part of business wether it's local or export oriented
It does not make sense for us to compare pre-colonization to current economy, as both economies of scale and goods consumed at these times differ significantly. Ex : Oil, adhi lekapothe aagipotadhi.. aina Imports aapeddama?? On the other hand, I agree that demand forecast is very important and demand should drive production and therefore the price. But in a country such as ours, where blaming GOVT is very easy, unless the GOVT steps into Price control and artificially keep the Supply/Demand at equilibrium, economy may face high rates of unemployment in short term, which can have ripple effect on the economy. Brother, I don't want to go into Short Term, Long Term, Agregate Supply/Demand, Prodcution, GDP and throw jargon at you. Because more deep we go into this subject more confusing it will be. Let us pick an example and discuss, i think that will be easier. |
   
Indiarocks
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Vjavasi:enduku nastapothadu?......if the economy is local he will get his share.....he doesn't need to deplete his soil with 3 crops a year working like a ass
Enduku nastapodu. Let us say a farmer wants to buy a computer and have internet so that he can get market information. Now, he cannot get a computer from the local economy. So the farmer has to buy an imported product. To compensate for this he has to export. And his strength is the climate, and geography that can give 3crops a year. Hence he has to play with them. Mee logic aithe manishi koodu, gudda, illu unte chalu ani aasalani champukuni alage undali. But humans are not like that and there is no progress with such an attitude. Clearly even you are not like that. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Vjavasi
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Indiarocks: Delta lo 3crops per yr vache chance undi. Akkada easy gaa surplus produce chestaru. Same principle applies to whole of India, bcoz of our tropical climate we can easily produce a surplus. Mee simple economics pettukunte Indian farmer nastapothadu.
enduku nastapothadu?......if the economy is local he will get his share.....he doesn't need to deplete his soil with 3 crops a year working like a ass |
   
Vjavasi
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Jackjill:because no economy is completely se;f sufficient, so Imports and exports are inevitable
In the past before colonization indian economy was decentralized and self-sufficient in basic needs....for exports get orders.....for imports give orders.......why should there be excess production.....even in the current economy many items are produced on orders....estimation of demand is part of business wether it's local or export oriented |
   
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Vjavasi:they can produce only on orders...if markets are local they will have an idea of demand......why can't there be local production and local consumption for basic needs?
Delta lo 3crops per yr vache chance undi. Akkada easy gaa surplus produce chestaru. Same principle applies to whole of India, bcoz of our tropical climate we can easily produce a surplus. Mee simple economics pettukunte Indian farmer nastapothadu. The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable. What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Jackjill
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Post Number: 7134 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 01:13 pm: |
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Vjavasi:why can't there be local production and local consumption for basic needs?
because no economy is completely se;f sufficient, so Imports and exports are inevitable Getafix:there should be some mechanism to pass the information to producer about lack of demand.. and to dissemanate information one has to have a mechanism of forecasting/read the fluctuations in market..mechanism ante economic models - model ante - you gotta take various factors into consideration - see already complicated ayyindhi economics.
The mechanism is already in advanced markets, it is called Indexing.. price is decided by free market forces |
   
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 01:05 pm: |
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Getafix:idi etla telusthundi oka producer ki? there should be some mechanism to pass the information to producer about lack of demand.. and to dissemanate information one has to have a mechanism of forecasting/read the fluctuations in market..mechanism ante economic models - model ante - you gotta take various factors into consideration - see already complicated ayyindhi economics.
they can produce only on orders...if markets are local they will have an idea of demand......why can't there be local production and local consumption for basic needs? |
   
Getafix
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 12:57 pm: |
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Vjavasi:why should they produce if there is no market....
idi etla telusthundi oka producer ki? there should be some mechanism to pass the information to producer about lack of demand.. and to dissemanate information one has to have a mechanism of forecasting/read the fluctuations in market..mechanism ante economic models - model ante - you gotta take various factors into consideration - see already complicated ayyindhi economics. |
   
Jackjill
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Post Number: 7131 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 8.20.184.6
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macro lo micro kalipise disco dance settunnaru enti ee thread lo, friday roju vinterest ledhu, momday bump ivvu maattadukundaam |
   
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Bushu:
doraa.. out of townaa... call kiya mein pichle hafte. |
   
Kalikaalam
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//83 lo 8rs kg rice unnadu 2rs ki icheru ok bagundi.. 2012 lo 40rs kg rice unaupudu same 2rs ki elaa ivvagalaru..kaani same 2 ki istunanru.. ade political economics// economics theliyani,ledaa economics ni care chyyani..political decission adi. anthe gaani politics and economics rendu different. |
   
Bunty717
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 12:34 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:Howcome that is economics?/that is a political decission.
83 lo 8rs kg rice unnadu 2rs ki icheru ok bagundi.. 2012 lo 40rs kg rice unaupudu same 2rs ki elaa ivvagalaru..kaani same 2 ki istunanru.. ade political economics |
   
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Post Number: 9218 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
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Samarasimha:This just to cut disparity or large gap among multiple earning groups. Govt. responsibility more than that is the primary function to make sure availability of all living supplies named as essential commodities at a reasonable price across the state. If the interest rate at which RBI willing to pay for Cash is low people tendency to use the cash in market either to buy or invest. Simple example if Banks (RBI represents) supply cash at low interest rate people buy homes or sites or spend more on grocery. On contrary If Banks won�t supply cash, people have no money at hand to spend controls the price of each and everything, bringing discipline and stability to financial system
why should people depend on govt to get houses in the first place....why can't there be a system that self organizes them to meet most of their basic economic needs |
   
Kalikaalam
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//When you see economics as a simple supply / demand game it is simple // But the fact is..economics and just demand and supply kaadu.. |
   
Kalikaalam
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//83 lo 2rs kilo rice.. 2012 still 2rs kg rice.. adi desam politricks // Howcome that is economics?/that is a political decission. |
   
Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 5215 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 12:19 pm: |
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//chala simple subject ni prapancham lo dongalu, donga goverments kalisi samanydiki ardham kaalentha complex ga systems create chesi valla dopidi ni continue chestunnaru.......// Simle or complex anedi manishi ki mansihi ki maaruthu vuntundi..'yevari kaina ardham ayye antha simple" anukonte..porapaatu..atla anai adedo rocket science ani kaadu. Thappakunda..adoka specialised subject.. |
   
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Yes, B.tech lo manchi scoring subject. 90+ min vachevi.loll |
   
Samarasimha
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 12:14 pm: |
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Vjavasi:why government need to control investment or legal production?.
This just to cut disparity or large gap among multiple earning groups. Govt. responsibility more than that is the primary function to make sure availability of all living supplies named as essential commodities at a reasonable price across the state. If the interest rate at which RBI willing to pay for Cash is low people tendency to use the cash in market either to buy or invest. Simple example if Banks (RBI represents) supply cash at low interest rate people buy homes or sites or spend more on grocery. On contrary If Banks won’t supply cash, people have no money at hand to spend controls the price of each and everything, bringing discipline and stability to financial system RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !! http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/anupam_mishra_the_ancient_ingenuity_of_water_harvesting.html |
   
Vjavasi
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Samarasimha:History says there are so many models failed such as socialism, which doesn't bring responsibility of individuals. Interest rate control is tool to control investment on goods and services because you can't ask individuals to stop investing on a particular good production. You make through the system if you produce that I will suck you by taxes and increase your cost of production by interest rates.
why should they produce if there is no market....let production adjust to the market....why government need to control investment or legal production?...shouldn't they adjust to demand and supply naturally |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 9216 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 11:56 am: |
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can we have just simple no interest giving people banks that help each other in need?......what happens if there are no centralized govt banks or private commercial banks that manipulate fiat money and help greedy capitalists |
   
Samarasimha
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Post Number: 2356 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 63.138.230.82
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Vjavasi:can't we evolve asystem that minimizes the role of fiat money?.......why should fiat money breed money with interest rates controlled by state
History says there are so many models failed such as socialism, which doesn't bring responsibility of individuals. Interest rate control is tool to control investment on goods and services because you can't ask individuals to stop investing on a particular good production. You make through the system if you produce that I will suck you by taxes and increase your cost of production by interest rates. RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !! http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/anupam_mishra_the_ancient_ingenuity_of_water_harvesting.html |
   
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 11:46 am: |
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Vjavasi:donga goverments kalisi samanydiki ardham kaalentha complex ga systems create chesi valla dopidi ni continue chestunnaru..
Economics is a procedural scripture or language of the collective powerful minds, who collaborate for exchange of goods and services. As nothing comes for free the powerful player making the game under majority wins roof. Since stone ages collective minds are trying to draft guidelines to organize human beings, who have the most complicated biological system. Collective mind is always powerful and where there is power the need for governance arises. With all revolutions of mankind the collective power shifted to Finance from war making, leaving economy directly or indirectly impacts all other powers and all walks of life across globe. RajasaYOdha RajaSekhara JOHAR JOHAR !! http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/anupam_mishra_the_ancient_ingenuity_of_water_harvesting.html |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 9212 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 11:33 am: |
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Twitter:If you see at super ingredient called Finance which made whole economics as a complex
can't we evolve asystem that minimizes the role of fiat money?.......why should fiat money breed money with interest rates controlled by state |
   
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 11:28 am: |
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Chitti_v2:economics pinance ki thedaa eti unkals?
finance is more specific - dealing with money, assets etc. economics is more broad, heavily relies on behavior of people and governments. caesar is home |
   
Twitter
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 11:19 am: |
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Vjavasi:
When you see economics as a simple supply / demand game it is simple If you see at super ingredient called Finance which made whole economics as a complex. no matter how complicated derivatives we deal with in finance it follows the lines of classic barter system doesnt mean economics is simple. |
   
Bunty717
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83 lo 2rs kilo rice.. 2012 still 2rs kg rice.. adi desam politricks economics |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 9210 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
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Rasputin:economics meeda
nuvvu already vinnava?......vinte ikkada discuss cheyyi |
   
Chitti_v2
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economics pinance ki thedaa eti unkals? |
   
Rasputin
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economics meeda 01/06/2012 - 169.4 02/01/2012 - 168.6 |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 9209 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
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Rasputin:Vjavasi, neeku maa naayana tho lectures ippisthaaley.
deni meedha? |
   
Vjavasi
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Twitter:subject is simple but the composition of Economy is complex
this is contradictory.....who made it complex? |
   
Rasputin
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 10:59 am: |
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Vjavasi, neeku maa naayana tho lectures ippisthaaley. 01/06/2012 - 169.4 02/01/2012 - 168.6 |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 9207 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
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This is the system that can keep economy simple & natural.....we can call it natural economics......interestingly the author claims hindu symbol swastika is linked to the idea of natural economics & social organization http://2ndlook.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/bharat-tantra-preque l-to-modern-history/ |
   
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Vjavasi:
subject is simple but the composition of Economy is complex |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 9206 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 10:52 am: |
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chala simple subject ni prapancham lo dongalu, donga goverments kalisi samanydiki ardham kaalentha complex ga systems create chesi valla dopidi ni continue chestunnaru.......sagatu manavudini valla mayajalam lo bandhee chesi adukuntunnaru......can we keep economics simple & give more power, freedom to common man? |