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     Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9117 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
Thanks | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11692 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138 Rating: N/A |
Lol - you have not been reading my posts recently then , tega typos padutunnayi - age to hand-brain co-ordination deteriorate avutundi 
Interesting - wonder how the brain stores coloring separate from the image - need to find some material on this  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Subzero Hero Username: Subzero Post Number: 11594 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 59.93.68.57 Rating: N/A |
ante ........... darren's brain sees things differently from others' ?? One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY | ||
| Subzero Hero Username: Subzero Post Number: 11592 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 59.93.68.57 Rating: N/A |
dont think so. b & w dreaming anedi proven in some study. donno how.
too ani undaali  aakhariki Anand post lo mistake pattukunna  One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11690 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138 Rating: N/A |
I am reading a book on this very subject Its been a while since I started it but got busy and have not progressed beyond chapter 2. I expect to finish it this week and will probably have more info to discuss after finishing.... If you are interested in this topic you might want to read it ... Conversations with Neil's Brain - The neural nature of thought and Language By William H Calvin & George A. Ojemann Also, meere Rajiv Malhotra link post chesinattu unnaru - Reading 'Being different ' in parallel The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11685 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.196 Rating: N/A |
Possible and that is what I meant when I said I wake up after my brain has filled in the colors ... , but conversely it is also possible that black and white dreaming is also an assumption Everyone's brain works a little differently - especially dreams are based on what images we associate emotions to so i think everyone sees them differently to The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Subzero Hero Username: Subzero Post Number: 11590 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 112.79.40.50 Rating: N/A |
you dont remember that the dream u had was in b & w. You dont remeber such a fine detail. you assume that it was in colour One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11683 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138 Rating: N/A |
Ofcourse you have evidence,you register them in black and white- no one can dispute that I do in color .. I was just hypothesizing on the possible reasons for the difference Maybe others here can pitch whether they see their dreams in b/w or color The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Bhishma Junior Artist Username: Bhishma Post Number: 272 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 24.185.59.118 Rating: N/A |
vammoooo...  you are superrrr..when I was lil, used to watch black N white charles chaplin flick, not now.. even I do painting with diff colors, and my first short film was also not black N white, still my dream are black N white, I don't know. I can't argue on "whether dreams are black & white or not", Since I do NOT have a valid evidence for that. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11682 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.196 Rating: N/A |
Maybe you watch a lot of black and white cinema and that is the first pattern your brain retrieves -i do not have a huge monochrome repository for my brain to retrieve from or i wake up after the colors have been filled in its fascinating how the brain works ...The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Bhishma Junior Artist Username: Bhishma Post Number: 269 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 24.185.59.118 Rating: N/A |
, are you serious? I never see a color in my dream other than black N white. May be your brain got awesome cells. I don't know. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11681 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138 Rating: N/A |
Nope - images have always been in colors - never had any black and white dreams at all The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Bhishma Junior Artist Username: Bhishma Post Number: 266 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 24.185.59.118 Rating: N/A |
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you might imagine the colors, once you woke up - aren't you? | ||
| Bhishma Junior Artist Username: Bhishma Post Number: 265 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 24.185.59.118 Rating: N/A |
you might imagine the colors, one you woke up - aren't you? | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11677 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138 Rating: N/A |
Naku full color lone vastayi The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Bhishma Junior Artist Username: Bhishma Post Number: 264 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 24.185.59.118 Rating: N/A |
dreams eppudu black & white lo vastai.. notice cheysavo ledo.. and thought process ki no lingo, cause all human being brains all over the earth, allways think something. One min. kuda kali ga undadhu brain, for sure. | ||
| Subzero Hero Username: Subzero Post Number: 11589 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 59.93.70.188 Rating: N/A |
ideas n thougths mathru bhasha lone vastai One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11674 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138 Rating: N/A |
I think I see what you are getting at ... maybe you should stop using the word 'language' then... lets say a baby starts with a clean slate /canvas.. It perceives a set of events..over time the brain identifies patterns and causality to these events ... Have you ever observed a baby learning to move its hand - the wonder in his eyes as he stares at his hand and realises he can control the movement is a sight to watch... he is not born knowing he has that control but learns by observing , identifying patterns and associating cause and effect...he has no language but he thinks doesn't he ? The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11661 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138 Rating: N/A |
Oops - remove that 'not' please.. it should read "motor movements are controlled by the motor strip in the brain" Need to prrofread my posts before submitting The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11659 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.83.138 Rating: N/A |
What did you mean when you used the term ? What is language ? It is a nomenclature for things around us, our feelings, what we perceive etc It comes after the perception happens when we translate and slot that perception into an set of terms we know..It is one of our mediums of i/o with our brain
It is a medium but a little more removed than that I think. The canvas is just perception - Language is a tool to understand the canvas and to paint on that canvas Taking the analogy further -Lets say we look at a painting - one may say the background is red, another like me with my painting background will say it is crimson..assuming the rods and cons in our wyes are identical and we see the same color - language only changes how we interpret it The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 7698 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
i would tend to think it is a medium of canvas. we create mental work products on a mental canvas. the widgets vary from individual to individual. some time ago i read an article what do deaf people think in? it scared me a bit. but they do think. they have the same mental canvas as we do. i am guessing they will operate with less number of widgets. for example, in our mental process we might include a lot of interactions with others, but they might have less. All Class Notes -> https://twitter.com/#!/EKSWAcademy all opinions expressed are mine and only mine. not to be attributed to the other IP address sharers, my employer, or any other human, animal, robot or alien. | ||
| Caddy Comedian Username: Caddy Post Number: 1198 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 67.159.36.26 Rating: N/A |
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| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9116 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
what do you mean by mental expression?...how can we think without some language? | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11658 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.196 Rating: N/A |
Language is nothing but mental expression you can live without learning any language known to another person at all - does not mean you do not think , perceive, sense or feel The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9115 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
not talking about reflexes....language of thoughts....particularly babies without any formal language | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11657 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.196 Rating: N/A |
Vjavasi, Be back in an hour or so - need to burn some calories and get the adrenaline going The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Immotional_hatyachar Side Hero Username: Immotional_hatyachar Post Number: 3257 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 99.111.72.15 Rating: N/A |
i guess not... nenu post vesaka anifinchindi... think disco beyond this is for me to read... na template limitations reach ayya :p yaaaaaayyyyyy Chinnu:Evadraaa babu aa posters eesindi .. Nandamuri ani kooda sariggaa raayaledu .. thuu edavalu Coolmac2Chinnu: akkada prestige motham debba ayipothunte, neeku spelling kavalsochindhaa | ||
| Urumi Junior Artist Username: Urumi Post Number: 730 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 173.48.193.193 Rating: N/A |
mimmalni oats thread lo oka question adiga.koncham choodandi | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11656 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.196 Rating: N/A |
You are going backwards motor movements are not controlled by the motor strip in the brain - electrical stimulation of the motor strip causes the corresponding part of the body ... This stimulus can be caused by multiple things - the best counter to your quest is reflexes - your hand moves away from a burning rod before to verbalise the rod is hot i need to pull away that said any language you understand can trigger that stimulusThe foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9114 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
How does it answer my question | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9113 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
not referring to mental expression...but how we intrepret our random thoughtsour impulses | ||
| Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 9636 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.241.85.146 Rating: N/A |
alochisthe language is brilliant funny thing. a kid 10 feet away from toy will show the toy and calls it thaaa thaa thaaa. manam navvukuntam how can it come u must go and take ani. but when we grow up and learn language we will say ' mana vooru deggarakochhesindhi etc.' actually we are going to it. | ||
| Immotional_hatyachar Side Hero Username: Immotional_hatyachar Post Number: 3256 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 99.111.72.15 Rating: N/A |
may be u can experiment here... oka chinese or other language movie that u dont understand pettuko... and watch it without subtitles... hows that? yaaaaaayyyyyy Chinnu:Evadraaa babu aa posters eesindi .. Nandamuri ani kooda sariggaa raayaledu .. thuu edavalu Coolmac2Chinnu: akkada prestige motham debba ayipothunte, neeku spelling kavalsochindhaa | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9112 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
what goes in child's mind before he makes sounds in his language....in what language a one year old mind is motivated to pick up a ball? | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11655 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.196 Rating: N/A |
Whichever is the fastest and most efficient route to get to an intelligible stream within the data repository you have If i give a personal example - if in my puja i am reinforcing what i am praying for - it comes out in a jumble of sanskrit, telugu and english - spiritual alignment anedi english lone vastundi though i know the telugu/ sanskrit / hindi terms for it kind of like LIFO - last in first out - easiest pattern to retrieve The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 9635 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.241.85.146 Rating: N/A |
yes like animals. when we want some thing we shout thhaa thhha thaaa something like that at 6 months. when we are happy heeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy keeeeyyyyyyyyyyyy eeeeeeeeeeeee ani arustham. when we are sad aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ani edustham. all this is our own language. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9111 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
appudu thoughts vasthe in what language?....i know you answered that they have their own language at that age....can you throw more light on that.....is it some kind of natural language for all human babies and as they grow do we override our language on that natural language | ||
| Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 9634 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.241.85.146 Rating: N/A |
//anand goru cheppinattu mind lo templates record awtu untai... as ur basha/knowledge keeps improving these templates keep updating... // same naa post lo everyone have there own language when we are kids and latter improve mother tong ani cheppa. | ||
| Immotional_hatyachar Side Hero Username: Immotional_hatyachar Post Number: 3253 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 99.111.72.15 Rating: N/A |
anand goru cheppinattu mind lo templates record awtu untai... as ur basha/knowledge keeps improving these templates keep updating... when u do not know some thing (idi enti or what is this anukuntav)..once u get an answer and are failiar with it then adi ento record aipothundi kada... so next time nunchi ala thinkuthaav... for e.g. chinnapudu ma nanamma oka pani vadini badapa ani thittindi anta... and i used to call him badapa badapa i believe... but i as i grew older... i started called him by his name... i can only think of him by his name now and not other... yaaaaaayyyyyy Chinnu:Evadraaa babu aa posters eesindi .. Nandamuri ani kooda sariggaa raayaledu .. thuu edavalu Coolmac2Chinnu: akkada prestige motham debba ayipothunte, neeku spelling kavalsochindhaa | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9110 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
u mean chemical flow activate the thought tracks in brain?...but my question is in what language we understand those activated thought tracks | ||
| Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 9633 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.241.85.146 Rating: N/A |
1 year vaallaki mana kanna chala healthy thoughts vasthai anukuntunna. like . now can i walk till that toy. appatidaaka paakina kid sudden ga okaroju endhuku nadavaneeki try chesthundhi if he/she dosnt think. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9109 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
chinnapudu ee basha radhu ga.....mari appudu thoughts vuntaaya? | ||
| Immotional_hatyachar Side Hero Username: Immotional_hatyachar Post Number: 3252 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 99.111.72.15 Rating: N/A |
the basha u converse/communicate in general... foe eg bus... eg scientist.. etc etc yaaaaaayyyyyy Chinnu:Evadraaa babu aa posters eesindi .. Nandamuri ani kooda sariggaa raayaledu .. thuu edavalu Coolmac2Chinnu: akkada prestige motham debba ayipothunte, neeku spelling kavalsochindhaa | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 11654 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.147.78.196 Rating: N/A |
Don't see myself as any of the people you called but here's my take Thoughts start with an interaction between hormonal chemicals and memory ... They get interpreted by the brain into the nearest recognizable template/pattern in the brain .. Usually visual interpretation comes fitst then verbal The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9108 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
asal one year ki thoughts vastaaya? | ||
| Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 9632 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.241.85.146 Rating: N/A |
max matru basha. when we are too small like 1 yr, our own language. everyone will have one. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9107 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
mind picture ni ee basha lo ardham chesukuntaav? | ||
| Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 9629 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.241.85.146 Rating: N/A |
pictures lo max. thauvatha matru basha, appudappudu english lo. for example andhamaina ammayi ayithe picture vasthundi amma ayithe telugu lo vasthundi boss voogudaithe english lo vasthundhi. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 9106 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
thoughts ee bhasha lo vastaayi? |
